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Well, I met up with Charles from Muderbox.com and was introduced to a live unit. The detail and quality was incredible. He is a pretty interesting guy, very cool.
Well, I am making my own case from his samples and will detail the progress here. I should have some eye candy up by next weekend.
Cheers.
Woot go Vancouver!
not that I'm being an ass or disrespectful, but i woulda waited till thurs or fri to post this. This is as bad as waiting paint dry for a week
or like telling a friend i have a funny story, and making him wait to hear it a few days later.
=), on the other hand, cant wait to see what you come up with
Yea cant wait... any mspaint we can start speculating?
ok guys.. I'll throw some up earlier. Maybe Monday or Tuesday.
I wanted to put a proper work log together first, but I can start it here. Instead of red or blue, I am going with a black/copper look :D
going to be a nice project ^^
Keep it clean and stylish, that's what made the MurderBox the MurderBox!
Good luck on the build! :up:
:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by DFectuoso
Sounds like a good and ambitious project!
I can do one better than MSPaint. Charles is going to give me a rendering of the front panel. It won't have the "murderbox' name on it, like his production cases, but he said he'll do something else for me in the way of illuminated lettering. I'll keep ya posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by DFectuoso
Edit: Here is the front panel I will have him fab up. I really like it a lot.
http://murderbox.com/uploads/faceplate_murdermod_fc.jpg
Sorry for the delay. Things have been too busy to set aside alot of time. Well, here is most of the parts I have collected so far. There is still the custom faceplate, LCD w/custom mount, copper fittings and a bunch of things that need to get fabricated. I have a couple extra mods that were not included with the real Murderbox, and will be detailed later.
Hope these pics satiate you guys. Click on each thumbnail for a close-up.
1. Miscellaneous Hardware & Bits:
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2. Brackets & Cages:
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3. Power & Performance:
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4. Air & Water:
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5. Case Shots:
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6. Lighting & Inverters:
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amazing pictures :up:
wow nice pics!!
charles doesnt mind you copying him?
suscribed
What I don't like are the CCFL lights. Try and use LEDs.
Thanks! Quite the opposite. He is intrigued with what I am doing. I know I am only following his lead for the designs, but I am hoping to come up with a couple of my own ideas to implement myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
Adding a PA120.3, second GTX8800 card and a resevoir presents a whole new set of challenges when trying to come close to his vision for esthetic appeal.
Is this the stock black finish? http://members.shaw.ca/strue/mM_case_03.jpg
Or is it custom painted?
sweet, can't wait to see more. i'd love to get one of those board trays so i can invert mine
If you can maintain the looks of the murderbox and the quality water setup like robby did with his v2000 tri-loop project you are not going to have a "murderbox" but a killerbox :D
Believe it or not, that is the stock finish on the exterior of the TJ07. It is such a nice case to work from. The internal parts are powder coated.Quote:
Originally Posted by nullface
When I get more parts in, I'll edit by photo gallery with them.
Thanks for all the comments.
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Originally Posted by 64dragon
Charles has both standard atx and reverse atx.. I love the reverse.. so that is what I am working from. That way my clear tops on my video cards can be seen through the mesh on the top of the case :D
everything looks awesome man, i really like that mobo tray
did you remove the silverstone logo? i tried and like half there and half not
ummmm i love the murder box and yours is coming along nicely, but shouldnt you get a motherboard that is actually good for such a project?. even if your not going with the intel chipsets you should at LEAST get a 780i, if only to be able to properly use/overclock that quadcore. just my advice, am looking forward to your progress :)
Ummmmm, nice. Keep taking lots of pics. I love it.
I love those blank mobo trays... makes me drool every time, it's the best detail in my opinion.
And +1 to this suggestion. Leds are so much nicer when done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tile
Friedchicken, we are the same kind.
(if you know what i mean ;))
Looking forward to your build of this awesome case.
I am not sure how it was done. I got the case from Charles without any badging.Quote:
Originally Posted by evil-98
Truth is, I was waiting for a stable solution to come along- and I have heard too many issues with those boards. So for now, I am using my current parts cause I know they play well together.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Last thing I need is to have to RMA a motherboard. I am tired of being an early adopter and one thing I have learned is; get parts and componenets which have been proven to work together. It's not worth my time to mess around and re-invent the wheel or do a lot of groundwork. I want the system to look and work great. Spend more time enjoying the PC, than building it.
I wanted really UV reactive lighting and Charles gave me the same ones he uses in murderbox. I’ll conceal them the same way he does. As for the LED lights, it’s my understanding that the “UV” ones aren’t very UV…Quote:
Originally Posted by biftek.
If you like the motherboard tray, just wait for the custom midplate that is coming in. Charles said he can have it ready in about 5 days. He's doing something different for my build because of the LCD doesn't play well with the extra PA120.3 underneath.Quote:
Originally Posted by biftek.
Steffen. PM sentQuote:
Originally Posted by Steffen
Cheers.
nah that doesn't really do it for me...
never been a diamond plate guy myself, and that is more of a benching tray...
Although i do love your custom cases
I'm high maintenance, what can i say? :p:
I have had to RMA 2 x 680i AR's and 3 x 680i A1's due to bi-hourly BSOD's caused by the faulty and oh-so-breakalbe memory controller on that motherboard,Quote:
Originally Posted by Friedchicken
I'm sure almost everyone will agree with me when i say that the 680i has been proven NOT TO WORK (counter to your justification above) I'm not trying to put a damper on your project but seriously, go get another mobo if your dont want to have to deal with the crap that one will give you.
Thats not even considering the NUMEROUS issues the 680i has with quad cores (i always use core2 duo with mine), and I know your gonna say "oh well they fixed that with the a1 revision". errrr wrong answer they didn't, your clocks are gonna be limited and it'll be a darned shame with all that smexy watercooling your putting in.
I just hope you will re-evaluate your options on the motherboard and maybe realize that I'm not just telling you these things for fun, I seriously want your project to be successful :) :)
any updates?
sniipe, I know your post is well meaning, however I am using something I have already been using for the past 12 months. I did go through the RMA headaches with this board a couple times and finally have one that has been working perfectly for 6+ months. I REFUSE to go through that again until I see a decent Sli board that can replace this one without all the hassles.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
I don't benchrace my overclocks, or try to eek out every Mhz of performance. I am very happy with this combo for what I use it for. I can pump this 2.67 QC to 3.6 without breaking a sweat. That is more than enough power for my personal needs. The choice in motherboard/cpu/ram is quite irrelevant here, as this build is not specific to the brand of board that is used.
I digress. This thread is not about my choice of internal components. It's about taking a proven case design and parts that already fit well together, and then adding my own set of challenges and solutions to make something different. That is where I have my work cut out for me. The custom TJ07 case and PC parts are easily accessible- the know-how is not. That is what I want to share with everyone.
Honestly sniip, I respect you for bring the issues up and taking the time to let me know. If I didn't already have this tested 680i in my possession, yes, i would have sought another mainboard based on your info.
Thanks for your support!
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Originally Posted by Friedchicken
lol sorry i didn't know that, shoulda mentioned it b4 and i woulda zipped my mouth :)
Unfortunately I’m waiting for threaded elbow fittings to use with the Thermochill rads. It's painful to have the whole build held up for the smallest parts- but once they arrive, things should hopefully go together pretty quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by disruptfam
I’m hoping they arrive within a week, but they are coming from Europe so we’ll see. It’s all good since Charles hasn’t finished with the new midplate or the faceplate. The faceplate only needs to be bolted on at the end of the build, so I’m in no immediate rush for it (although I am anxious to get my hands on it).
I should hear from Charles about the midplate Monday but since I’m waiting on fittings, it will just sit untill I finish installing the rads and plumbing the lower section.
...In the meantime I can start thinking about the upper section. I will say it's great not having to spray paint anything. Getting all the parts already power coated is great… he even gave me powder coated pci slot covers! Now that’s attention to detail! :up:
I know exactly what you mean !!! i feel your pain i'm in the same situation extremely frustrating waiting for the smallest partsQuote:
Originally Posted by Friedchicken
Got the elbow fittings so everything’s ready to go.
My next delay actually has nothing to do with the build, I’m so swamped with work that I can’t see when I’ll have the time to get this build done.
When I talked to Charles he said he’d be happy to put my system together.
We worked out a barter deal where he would do the build and I would do some webpage work for him. It’s great because not only will I get a murderbox quality system, but I’ll also get my machine a lot faster than if I was to do it. I asked him if he could do a worklog like I was going to do - he said no problem. He’s got all the stuff so expect some updates soon.
Sorry for the delay... you know how these thnigs go...
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great so far :) that case look awesome!
wow thats nice :up: so your getting the works. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Friedchicken
thats awesome, can't wait to see an update
Hi all,
Fried Chicken asked me to make a worklog of his build so here we go. Please go easy on me as this is my 1st attempt at a worklog. I’ll try to focus on the stuff that I think may be of interest and not so much on the obvious. I’m not accustomed to taking photos while I work so if I omit anything that is of interest, please don’t hesitate to ask and I’ll answer your question as best I can. Alright, enough with the flapping of gums, on with the build. :)
It all starts with a Hammond 1591A project box. I’m a gonna build the whole system inside it.
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Kidding… I use these for a bunch of stuff; they’re really cheap and to start with, make great radiator platforms.
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I love that each one comes with an inspected by card – how often do you see that on a $3.61 product!
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They also come with a set of screws that I'll use to secure the boxes to the base of the case.
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I use the box lids as guides to mark the holes…
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A drill bit works well for marking the hole locations. I twist the bit between my thumb and forefinger a few times and presto; marked for drilling. Which reminds me – have you heard the title for Steven Segal’s upcoming straight to DVD movie – Marked for Discount. I know… don’t quit my day job.
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One set of holes drilled and one to go…
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On the underside I countersink the holes so the screw heads are flush.
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Rad mounts installed. I sand the tops to to help the tape adhere… yes, tape…
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I use 3M heavy duty mounting tape to attach the radiators to the mounts. The stuff sticks like poop to a blanket. You know this as fact if you ever have to separate something attached with it. Errrr… the tape… not the poop.
Ok, time for a slight deviation before finishing the rad mounting. I do a little something and now’s the time – before the rads are in place.
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I start by separating the wires from the front PCB and then wrap them in two sleeves.
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Next, I make a slight alteration to the front LED’s – I find them too bright so…
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I cover them with small pieces of red gaffer’s tape. Now instead of bright blue, they’re a nice subtle purple.
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Time for another Hammond 1691A project box! (ok, the exclamation was overkill). Holding the PCB as a guide, I drill two holes…
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I mount the PCB using only the bottom two holes…
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Using these 10mm M3 screws…
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I attach the project box over the front PCB. Oh, I forgot to mention that I drill a hole in the side to pass the sleeved wires…
Ok, now it’s back to the rads…
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I wire up and install the fans…
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Finally it’s time to stick the rads to the mounts. I’ll repaint the top of the rads later (You’ll see that scratch on the PA120.2 through an opening in the midplate).
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Other side…
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The gangs all here… Rads, pump and PSU. It’s a tight fit but fit it does.
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Next I check the rad fittings for leaks by run a mini loop… or as some call it a loopette.
No leaks… joy.
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Time to test-fit the midplate and mark hose locations for drilling.
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This is when I start praying that when I drill those 1” holes, I don’t fark up the finish. Sure I could mock up the build, drill the holes then have it powder coated but where’s the “live by the seat of your pants” thrill in that?
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Nice and clean down below on this side…
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Ack! not so much this side. It’s going to take a lot of cable management to get this rat’s nest sorted and it’s going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better – I’ve yet to break out the 24 pin mobo power cable into individual sleeves. Actually multiply that by two since I’ll be doing the same for all 4 PCI-E power connectors. All told, I’ll have roughly 65 cables to deal with. :eek:
Well that’s all for today – next step is to power it up and load windows… oh wait; I think there’s a few bits to go before that.
The next time you see me I’ll have drilled the hose holes in the midplate and done all the PSU sleeving. The next installment will be focused on the upper chamber loop.
Until then - Thanks for stopping by. :)
Looks great! Nice picture taking and what not for someone who said they weren't used to a worklog. :p
Loking forward to more!
looks good charles_h very inspirational, i love all the panels and how clean they are. i am loving the black all around i definitely need to do that with my tj07
very nice charles
amazing presentation, finish and details are awesome, really clean I love that.
thank you Charles for your time to help out friedchicken and your great work. i like that box around the front pcb.
by the end of the summer i hope to have the interior of my tj07 powder coated, they look so much cleaner with a black interior. hope to get a few other things done too
Thanks for the words of encouragement guys. :)
I got pretty much all the wiring and sleeving done but unfortunately ran out of light so I'll get some shots over the weekend. I took a couple quick shots to give y'all a taste.
http://murderbox.com/uploads/DSC_2248_b.jpg
You're probably wondering what the 4 holes are for so I'll tell ya. Fried Chicken came up with the idea to make the CPU mounting holes accessible from behind. This is a great idea and allows for changing water block/mounting hardware without having to remove the mobo. The downside is having to drill more big honking holes in the motherboard tray. I use a step drill bit which works well - on one hole the bit grabbed the metal and spun the whole tray from my grip. Luckily this was before powder coating so no damage was done. Man, I have no idea what that motherboard tray is made of but its some nasty material. Its some kind of tin or something. Its plated but inside it could be anything. I wonder if its even from this planet. ;)
The fifth hole is for the 8pin mobo AUX power. I'm pretty happy with how the PCI-E sleeving worked out (pics to come). 48 individually sleeved wires looks very HR Geiger and now I'm thinking this build might look cool all black. I'll bounce that off Fried Chicken and see what he thinks. More to follow - stay tuned. :)
Wow I just found this thread. Amazing work. I just am absolutely amazed with the superb detail work. Keep it up!
amazing cable management so clean! ! !
Charles, I love you :D
very nice. i like those tabs that the wires are going thru
i did some dremel work myself the over the past few days. it was my first time cutting up a case but i thought it went ok, only broke 1 wheel. i'll have to take some pics today
Nice cable management :wave:
:eek2::eek2::clap::up:
Sweet job man!
its almost tooo nice :)
Thanks all for the comments guys – this community is awesome and incredibly supportive. :)
This afternoon the Hstntx1 data center in Houston went down due to a transformer fire. This meant that murderbox.com and all the images I hosted here were offline until I could make temporary arrangements. Once they get back online, I’ll switch my dns nameserver back – probably within a day or two.
I’m really enjoying this build log thing – I only wish I’d done it for the 1st murderbox. I will definitely do a build log for my next creation; a one off design simply called “pure|murderbox”. Anyway, more about that another time; back to the task at hand - Fried Chicken’s murderMod TJ07.
Today I strung up the upper loop and took some pics. I’m loaning Fried Chicken two of my coveted and prized 90 degree copper elbows made my Martin. I only have a few left and I’d rather part with my wife than Martin’s handcrafted fittings. ;) What can I say, the things are pure perfection. Moving on - I’m not 100% happy with the loop – perhaps it’ll grow on me. I’ll leave it for a few days and see how I feel then. Meanwhile, there are the drives to mount, SATA cables to run and lighting to sort out. I haven’t decided on the lighting setup yet but now that I’m thinking of going all black – coolant and all, I’m leaning towards key lighting which is like back lighting. This will highlight the edges of all the black stuff and provide contrast since I won’t be relying on color to do so. I have an idea for the lighting and I’ll definitely document the process.
The murderMod faceplate is being anodized and should be ready for pickup by Tuesday. Then I'll wire up the logo lighting and install the brackets and optical drive. I should have pics of it by Wednesday, if all goes well. By then Fried Chicken’s murderMod TJ07 should be finished – save for burning in the CPU and finalizing the details. Oh I almost forgot; the side panel is still at the water jet shop but should also be ready by Wednesday. I’ll show you guys what I use to adhere the window then – it’s some sweet stuff and works like a charm. I’m also waiting on FC’s IO shield which will have to be painted black.
What’s that? You’d like more rambling? Well you can’t have it – instead I’m going to post some pics.
I’ll start with a couple of the backside – I’d like to point out that the white molex connector will be replaced with a black one. The reason for the molex is to allow use of the pump without having to turn on the system’s PSU. I can connect my handy micro ATX PSU to the pump directly in order to get the loop filled and the air bled out. Cycling the pump on and off helps get all the air pockets out and I’d rather not have to turn on the system to do so.
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Soon to be replaced yucky white molex…
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...and the front
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A shot of where the loop goes through the midplate and into the PA120.3 below.
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…and where the loop comes back up and into the CPU block.
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An arty farty shot of the upper loop. Disregard the black cable tie on the top GPU block, its temporary. I’ll be using herbie clips when I’ve settled on the loop design but since they’re so hard to get off, I’ll use cable ties for now. You’ll note I’m using 2 of Martin’s elbows to redirect the loop back down and ultimately to the reservoir.
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A similar shot but a bit less arty and not so farty; or to put it in laymen’s terms – more depth of field. :p:
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This angle gives you a better view of where the loop comes out of the midplate and into the CPU block.
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And finally, a touch more of the arty farty. You’ll notice that there’s no plug cap under the lower GPU block – I ran out of them and had to order more – I hope I remember to put one in before I fill the loop.
You’ll also notice there are no full body shots – I’m waiting till the whole system is finished before taking any. Kind of a “big reveal” if you will.
Next will be hardrives and optical drive… pics to follow.
WOWOWOWOWOWOW.....
looks soo good and soo neat.
where did you get those things to neat up the back of the motherboard? i want some also :P
What do you call those screws that hold your wires at the back of your mobo?
thats what i want to know + where to buy :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by P4rD0nM3
Just wow...
That just looks sooo good ! :up:
:D woow
wow-ed, very inspiring...
Nice job so far.
Hey Charles, how long are the pci-express cables of the power supply?
I think mine are way to short, if you extended them, could you say how? :)
Thanks for the comments guys. :)
To those asking about what I used to secure the cabling to the back of the motherboard tray; I use cable clamps by Gardner Bender. Home Depot sells them but you can also find them online in bulk and a lot cheaper.
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I screw them into the tray's existing unused holes using 6-32 black oxide indented hex head screws.
Steffen: For this build I'm using a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750. The PCI-E cables are prefect length to go around the back of the mobo tray and up and over to easily reach the top video card. I do remove all the sleeving and replace it with my own. The Silencer 750 is an awesome PSU and I highly recommend it. :yepp:
great cable and tube management!
love it! :D
What size were your cable clamps?
So clean, You are inspiring me.... no must spend money on monitor no more pretty things!
now Im just embarrassed of my case
For the watercooling loop would work to perfection Pi-Thon clamps. They do an excellent job and look cool. Another thing that I do't like apart from the lighting is the plastic elbows.
Damn... just wow:D
i just got my TJ07 and your really inspiring me to take my time and really plan it all out.
cant wait to see this finished and more future mods from ya. :up: :up: :up:
very nice cable management you got there
looking fwd for the pictures of the finished case
Very, very nice, good job Charles
http://www.pi-thon.com/products.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Tile
Wow, those are hot! I might pick up a bunch for my loop. Thanks.
The elbows that are placed at the upper block really hurt performance and ruin the looks. I would have mounted the connecting tube on the rear holes of the EK waterblocks and remove the elbows from there and directing the hose directly to the res.
Tile, those are custom bent copper elbows with no flatspots or compression points. There is no measurable impact on performance. Looks are subjective of course...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tile
:up:
Charles, everything looks great so far. I have given you 100% confidence in the creativity department... so do whatever you think works best for the overall design/theme.
very inspiring stuff!
Thanks for the comments guys. Things are moving along so hopefully I'll have updates to show soon.
They're 1/4"Quote:
Originally Posted by P4rD0nM3
Thanks Tile, I'm going to consider your recommendation. Like I said previously, I'm not 100% happy with the loop. Perhaps your suggestion will get me closer to 100% - Cheers. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tile
Thanks Fried Chicken, much appreciated. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Friedchicken
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn mate this is a+ material!!!!!
Excellent work Charles, and nice pictures btw.
charles_h may i ask how you removed the silverstone long from the case?
this is trully one amazing build..gotta love how clean it looks:shocked:
the pithon clamps mentioned by tile are amazing!im considering some myself too. need to check if they would fit though:D
charles keep up the great work.:clap: .looking forward to updates.
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Thanks guys. :)
My "metal expert" guy (and I don't mean the Pantera type) gave me the stuff in a tin container. Once we ascertained that the logo was an epoxy paint, he seamed to know what I needed. Its green and gel-like. Its also very toxic but doesn't damage the anodized finish at all. I can ask him if its available as a consumer product next time I talk to him if you like. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by evil-98
Giannis86: I'm also digging those Pi-Thom compression fittings. I'm trying to figure what size I'd need - taking into account the barb flange and how it expands the hose OD. Maybe Tile knows; Tile, if you're there - which parts would I need for 3/4"OD hose? would it be 1A-07 or 1A-08? Cheers.
Progress report as follows: Mounted HDs and optical drive. Sleeved and ran SATA cables also. I'll have to install a 120mm fan in the drive bay to help cool those hot little Raptors. I took a couple quick arty-fart shots to give you guys a taste of the SATA cable design. It'll be more dramatic when the key lights are installed and the loop filled with black Feser One. I'm still working on the loop and trying a few ideas - thanks to Tile. :up:
More to follow.
Oh, I almost forgot the teaser shots - sorry they're both very similar but I couldn't pick one so you're getting the two. :p:
http://murderbox.com/uploads/DSC_2430b.jpg
http://murderbox.com/uploads/DSC_2422b.jpg
very neat :up:
bout the copper tubes .. could u spray it or powder coat it as well? the copper color doesnt seems matching with ur design
how bout spraying with fluorecent color? if u prefer bling bling?
more pics of the cable-management Charles! :up:
i checked yesterday on their site on how to measure it. Just put the hose on the barb and measure the biggest diameter. Then look at which one you need. You can find a how to measure page via the home page. They also have a video instruction on how to apply the hose+pi-thom fittings on the barb:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by charles_h
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Wow!
This looks absolutely fantastic! Great job Charles!
Just a quick question, what cable sleeving product are you using?
Regards
dont take this the wrong way....but i hate some of you guys soooooo much. lol.
looks incredible.
i love those individually sleeved pcie and atx cables, they look mean as hell. i'm thinking an 'alien' themed front bezel? :D
that would be very nice thanks :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by charles_h
Thanks for the comments. :)
Thank you Sir, I'm definitely going to get me some. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Giannis86
rentay, I'm using Techflex PET - mostly 1/4" size. It's a snug fit on the SATA connectors so I shave the corners like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by rentay
http://murderbox.com/uploads/SATA_ 002b.jpg
Using a box cutter, I shave some of the plastic off the connector as seen on the left. This ensures the sleeve doesn't snag while feeding over the cable connector. Be sure to shave all 4 corners.
Progess report: I've finalized the loop design and filled it. I have made two observations thus far:
1. Feser One Black coolant is not in fact black (it's more like Welch's grape juice. Ok, that might be a bit harsh - its just very dark purple).
2. Fried Chicken needs to replace his EK GPU copper blocks with these. While I'm not keen on draining the loop, I think those Nickel plated blocks would kick a$$ in his build. I know it's a lot of money for something purely visual and I totally understand if he'd rather stay with the copper... Perhaps some peer pressure would help the cause. :D
these updates are such a TEASER!!!! i want MORE MORE MORE! :up:
great work Charles! :up:
Sure Charles.. go ahead and get those.Quote:
Originally Posted by charles_h
Btw, you take payment in the form of chickens right?
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hey charles, could you maybe provide a link? i tried looking for it but i coulding find it:confused:
Thanks emoners!Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
I promise you more is coming. :)
Surely - here's a .pdf of the Company's catalogue - On page 178 you should find plastic cable clamps. The part number for the 1/4" black in 18 unit packs is PPC1525UVBQuote:
Originally Posted by Giannis86
Yes but no drumsticks! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Friedchicken
I'll order the blocks and look into FluidXP black as an option if the Feser black doesn't suit our needs.
Since this will temporarily put your build on hold, I'll have time to focus on my other orders - all in various stages of completion.
http://murderbox.com/uploads/DSC_2476b.jpg
Yours being on the right. :)
Becoming a drug , more more and more and more and more and ......Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
Loving each update, I really like the clean of yours builds, I think a lot of people need to take this for an example.:up:
And I vote for the EK nickel blocks :yepp:
Dang it...those murderboxes are so nice...
Charles this looks absolutely fantastic.The attention to detail is amazing.
Looking forward to seeing this finished. :)
maybe some tygon r3400 black tuning would nice ? apposed to the "black" die?