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Hi all,
I've managed to get a set of the new GeIL Black Dragon EVO ONE and they've showing some decent headroom for a 4GB kit.
These are just preliminary results with a more detailed review to follow.
Using a Gigabyte P35 DS3R
BIOS F6a
Windows XP 32-bit (I'm working on getting a 64-bit OS)
445Mhz 4-4-3-11 2.0v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...11_2.0v_GU.png
563Mhz 5-6-5-16 2.0v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...16_2.0v_GU.png
What about 4-4-4-x and 5-5-5-x can you test?
I mainly focus on the primary CAS value then tighten up the secondary timings later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
4-4-4 & 5-5-5 should be achievable at slightly lower speeds than the values above.
what about with a lil more voltage ?? ;)
Ok please do post also cpu-z spd reading
anywhere in us to find these yet?? im interested..
These should not be powerchips. elpida maybe?
i got these too ...
@ 564 5-5-5-18 2.0v
clock twister strong
transaction booster enable 0
1.5h prime blend so far on vista x64
Great result man keep us posting.
Specs are 5-5-5-15@1.8V for 800 MHz but i pushed them to 1054@5-5-5-15@2.1V :clap:
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/uob0vtfhu0cwcamqkjxl.jpg
These are great looking modules and functional too :up:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/7255cd107f.jpg
DDR 907 4-3-3-8 2T 2.2v
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=307927
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/26a5e11e72.jpg
They will do around 900 4-3-3-8 1T which has a good BW jump.
More here
I hope 4-3-3-x is possible on P35/X38 too...
Scaling up to 577@2.3Vdimm :up:
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/a9smgmp3u26tf7n01f0a.jpg
so are these the 800's or the 1066's?? if they are the 800's wow..
All of these are the 800 ones.
Previous result was with the CL5 ones and the latest as the other guys
with CL4.
strange.
my friend has 8 gigs of the stuff, but his is rated for 1.9 volts, and doesnt get much more then 900 very easily, no matter the cas or voltage.
Tried also with 1.88vdimm lowest possible on formula stable at 545@5-5-4-13.
Maybe your friend's is older batch. This is rated CL4@2.0V
Very impressive....I'm thinking about buying these. If these are the same chips as the 1066 Evo Ones then they should be able to take 2.3V NP.....
a freind just got a set of these and his are rated for 1.9 on the sticks not 2.0.. i wonder if they have changed them.. even the web site says 1.8 cl4 and 1.9-2.0 cl5..
Are those the CL4 or CL5 DDR2-800? From what GeIL's says the ratings are:Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
and the 1066 (may use the same chips, so voltage should be safe....for sure on air)Quote:
SPECIFICATIONS:
▪ Capacity: 2GB & 4GB Dual Channel Kit
▪ Speed: 800MHz
▪ CAS Latency: 5-5-5-15
▪ GeIL certified FBGA 64Mx8 and 128Mx8 DDR2 IC Chips
▪ 240pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered DIMM
▪ 8-Layer Ultra Low Noise PCB
▪ Heat Spreader: EVO ONE Heat-sink System
▪ Working Voltage: 800MHz CL5 - 1.8V, 800MHz CL4 1.9~2.0V
▪ Retail Package
▪ GeIL Limited Lifetime Warranty
SKU NUMBER:
GE22GB800C5DC - 800MHz 5-5-5-15 2GB Dual Channel Kit
GE24GB800C5DC - 800MHz 5-5-5-15 4GB Dual Channel Kit
GE22GB800C4DC - 800MHz 4-4-4-12 2GB Dual Channel Kit
GE24GB800C4DC - 800MHz 4-4-4-12 4GB Dual Channel Kit
Someone should really take the heatspreaders off these to see what the chips are :DQuote:
SPECIFICATIONS:
▪ Capacity: 2GB & 4GB Dual Channel Kit
▪ Speed: 1066MHz
▪ CAS Latency: 5-5-5-15
▪ GeIL certified FBGA 64Mx8 and 128Mx8 DDR2 IC Chips
▪ 240pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered DIMM
▪ 8-Layer Ultra Low Noise PCB
▪ Heat Spreader: EVO ONE Heat-sink System
▪ Working Voltage: 1066MHz CL5 - 2.1~2.3V
▪ Retail Package
▪ GeIL Lifetime Warranty
SKU NUMBER:
GE22GB1066C5DC - 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 2GB Dual Channel Kit
GE24GB1066C5DC - 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 4GB Dual Channel Kit
well they are just black dragons with heat spreaders so what chips do they use?
and sorry i was backwards with the cl5 and cl4 volt wise his were the newegg ones which say cl4 on the web page on newegg GE24GB800C4DC
http://www.geilusa.com/uploads/assects/Image/bk.jpg
so which is supposed to be better the esoteria or the evo one?
hmmm maybe there are different revisions of it with different chips...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunaak
Looks like they are Elpida.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
EDIT; Looks like all the Black Dragon's use Elpida, PC2 8500's as well. And it also seems they will take some voltage. The 8500's are rated @ 2.3v C5.
This is elpida
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ic/img/Elpida_AB-5C-E.jpg
And this is powerchip
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ic/img/Powerchip.jpg
So according to Dragon picture the Dragon ones are Elpida.
But these we are not sure for now, maybe if i got off the heatspreaders.
I think powerchips though because they have exact same behaviour (tighten up to 5-5-4-13 like Redline)
but tRFC can be tighten more though.
They correspond to voltages though every 0.1volt gives them 10MHz
from 1.9 to 2.2
Agreed on the pic. Elpida for sure. But you have a feeling they switched over to Powerchip for the EVO's do to behaviour. So let me ask you this. What would you rather them be. Elpida or Powerchip? And you do know (and I'm sure you do;) ) if you pull the heatspreaders your warranty is finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
If someone is gently with them he will do the job. The sticker is not a problem there.
But i think they are very tight on...i am still convinced that they are the hightest binned powerchips out there. Maybe if i find elpida review for 2x2GB i will be more specific.
Let us know if you do pull them because I am really curious as to what chips they are. Just be careful. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Please don't misunderstand me. I am not questioning your gut feeling on these chips. I'm sure you have more experience than me on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Correct me if I'm wrong but am I right in saying that you would rather them be Powerchip than Elpida? I'm curious because I'm sick of Micron and the endless RMA loop.
so does anyone think its even worth it to get the 1066 version of the evo one's instead of the 800's??
and what about the esoteria's they are rated to 2.5v .... i mean wow... what chips do we think they are using??...
What if they are rated up to there? In case of benchmarking to gain a little
MHz? Yes, and only this. Because if they aren't micron then more voltage maybe
won't gain anymore. Only thing i can think is that they can last 24/7 at 2.5V??!!
seems people are running them at near (2.45 or so) that 24/7 i am just very suprised..
I'm running 2.42 ATM.....but I'm going to test lower voltage, as I don't think it's required. I can't POST with any other dividers that I've tested other than DDR2-1129...so I really don't think that all that extra voltage is really necessary unless your board can handle it. I'm going to try higher FSBs at the 9 multi instead of 8 to max the memory out.....but I dunno, this is insanely high for DDR2-800 memory.
another guy i know got his esoteria's in yesterday from newegg and i just spoke with him he said they will only post as high as about 490.. these are the 800's andhe said no matter what he does anything higher causes a no boot or a crash as soon as it hits windows.. he said he's tried 2.5v (on a dfi mobo) even loosened up past 5-5-5-16... and no go.. so im not sure the 800's esoteria's will all do over 1000...guess if i want to know they will do over 1000 ill have to spend a ton more and get the 1066's...imo geil is overpriced though on their 1066's..
Just to anyone that is deciding between these and the G. skill ones check my post here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=32
G. Skill does 1066 Mhz on only 2.0-2.1v, whereas the Geil ones require 2.1-2.3v.
Also the Geil ones are a whole £46 more expensive.
http://www.memoryc.com/products/desc...kit/index.html
The 800 Mhz ones are only a few £ less then the G. skills too.
I'm not bashing the Geil sticks, dont get me wrong. They are very good, but they are too overpriced, at least in the UK compared to G. Skill and OCZ.
As i said is the most expensive but no they are not required more voltage.
1.9 volt is required for mine to run completely stable at 545MHz.
Thats good then, I just noticed the OP got them to 545 Mhz with 2.0v.
So the rated volts on the 1066 Mhz kit mean that its just gauranteed to be run at 2.3v without dying.
Someone buy me some XD
Well I ordered the Evo One 2x2Gb 4-4-4-12 DDR2-800 kit today. It should be here in about two days.
I'll be sure to post my results.
You can be 100% sure, it is Elpida.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
lol you gonna sell those eso's??? ... i still cant decideQuote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Yea I might, depending on which clocks higher :D Apparently I've found a pair of golden Esoterias from what I'm seeing around, as I haven't seen anyone stable at DDR2-1129......:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
You haven't seen anyone stable with Esoterias 2x2GB at 1129 MHzQuote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
or in general with 2x2GB? :up:
if i saw a few more id be all over these sticks..
Ok this is for you, not to have second thoughts my friend :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
This is in the middle of the run...
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/ny5yamy6vwac0q0em3q0.jpg
This is complete...enjoy :up:
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/4lych84kzs89o9z89nz7.jpg
OMG what ones are those the 800's and are those the evo's or the esoteria's????????????? thats insane.. how recent are those im wondering if since the 1066's came out they started to only use these higher binned ones in the 1066's... very nice man..
Ok I'm going to try your timings, as I couldn't even load the OS at DDR2-11129 5-5-5-15.........I was running 2.28V or so. These sticks are rated 2.1-2.3V according to the sticker on the heatspreader.............Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Also what transbooster/DRAM static read, etc are you using for that?
That's really amazing that you're stable with those timings and frequency....wow.
thats what im saying.. still want to know if those were the 1066's tested there .. and evo's or esoteria's...Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
If it's his sig RAM then it's the DDR2-800............I'm going to test later when I get home from church.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
I dunno....I must have got a bad kit....I can't even boot (sometimes won't POST) at my same settings as the Esoteria:
DDR2-1129 5-5-5-15.........VDIMM from 2.1-2.35, nothing works.
I'm going to return them for exchange and see if I can get a better kit, but I'll probably just stick with the Esoteria.
yeah thats what i was afraid of is the people getting the insane oc's simply got awesome kits..
newegg has a ton of 1066 sets now arghh now im really going to have a rough time deciding...
I tweaked a little more on my MCH latencies...........good results.
http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/443...8476682_rs.jpg
SuperPi 32M stable and I ran Everest stress (all boxes checked but HDDs) for 40 minutes.......
nice results man.. but will they be 24/7 at those kind of speeds ....
Yea they're stable 24/7. I'm going to start testing lower and lower voltage............so far I'm at 2.36V. I have a 120mm fan over my memory and NB, so they keep nice and cool. I don't really see how this memory can take 2.5V.........I mean how on Earth do they warranty that high? :rofl:
I have noted that several times.
2x2GB Evo One PC6400 4-4-4 2.0V that is the sticker same with
the picture here. So no question about that.
They scale like this:
1.9V 545MHz
2.0V 555MHz
2.1V 564MHz
2.2V 573MHz
2.3V 578MHz (only memtest no pi so far)
Settings are:
Dram Static Control = Disabled, Twister = Moderate
I have not tried DSCtrl = Enabled yet but Twister Strong is dangerous at that strap/divider.
Maybe is working with Enabled/0 on strap400 3:4 divider as user doom stated.
Elpidas are cheap, they clock very good with low voltage. Geil is somewhat overrating Elpidas with their voltage warranty. There are 8500 kit rated at stock voltage of 2.4V on Elpidas. I won't go past 2.4Vdimm on Elpidas.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
DDR2-1066 Evo One Blackdragons.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6823/1066as2.jpg
-Pay no attention to the VDIMM at this point I was racking my brain for ideas, and didn't care about vdimm at this point. This is not inherit of what to expect with your PC's running this 1066 Kit.
-I can't run 538mhz in DC mode, I have tried everything, have Thread open on Geil.
-Spent 6+ hours trying to get stable at 535 to no avail.
-They will run 560+ when individually installed, SC Mode. Even showed signs they had a lot more to give.
-Put them back in DC mode, they won't hit 538 lol.
My first clue should have been the fact they were shipped out of NJ, I suspect these were probably a Return RMA that was just boxed up and shipped out again after inhouse testing. Sure they will run the rated 1066, but I'm not paying $220 + $20 Overnight Shipping for a Premium priced 4GB Kit that cant run 538 DC mode.
yeah i guess thats why they only had the one set in stock and after you bought it they were back out of stock again..
It has to be, the SPD Table shows the Fab date as Week 36 of 2007 which is September, and this is almost March!Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
RMA Exchange them or Return and hold out for something better in the "near" future?
thats a tough one i have heard of the evo 1066's doing 1200 so man that would be tough
In Stock at Newegg again...
If they are still in stock tomorrow then they must have recently gotten the shipment today they were expecting on 3/3. :shrug:
Man that 1066 is way overpriced......
def seems like its overpriced
Strange that about pack date mine does not have any date written on them.
But since both single dimms go past 560 (just what have read over Geil forums) then it is your board, since when in dual mode ~5MHz max is around the loss so you could be around 555 easily.
I turned on Dram Static Read Control to Enabled it works also giving a 0.3ns less latency.
I will try now for Moderate-Strong but maybe i will need extra voltage on NB.
Here's a review on the GeIL EVO ONE DDR800 CAS4 2x2GB RAM kit.
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...-Pack-GeIL.jpg
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...oseUp-GeIL.jpg
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do.../Speed_tab.png
The equipment used was:
Intel QX9650 Extreme Edition Quad Core CPU (Thanks to Intel)
Gigabyte P35-DS3R F11 BIOS (Thanks to Gigabyte)
Leadtek 7800GTX 256MB
Western Digital Raptor 74GB
Silverstone Olympia 750W
347Mhz 3-3-3-7 2.0v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...-7_2.0v-GU.png
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...0v-Everest.png
353Mhz 3-3-3-10 2.1v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...10_2.1v-GU.png
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...1v-Everest.png
Going up to 2.2v at CAS3 didn't yeald much further improvement.
448Mhz 4-4-4-11 2.0v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...11_2.0v-GU.png
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...0v-Everest.png
453Mhz 4-4-4-11 2.1v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...11_2.1v-GU.png
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...1v-Everest.png
As with CAS3, going up to 2.2v didn't yeald much improvement.
549Mhz 5-5-5-14 2.0v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...14_2.0v-GU.png
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...0v-Everest.png
565Mhz 5-5-5-14 2.1v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...14_2.1v-GU.png
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...1v-Everest.png
579Mhz 5-5-5-16 2.2v
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...16_2.2v-GU.png
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...2v-Everest.png
To sum up: It's a well priced kit with impressive performance, especially considering it's a 2x2GB kit and well, they look pretty darn cool too.
The CAS5 overclocking headroom is where it's at so don't bother running CAS3 or CAS4.
Next up.....hopefully a set of GeIL EVO ONE DDR3 :)
Damn it 7 mhz difference with mine i am gonna to cry... :D
Can you tighten tRFC?
I think 48 is possible.
Also tighten other timmings (maybe that is why you have gained a few Mhz)
You can see my timings in the other thread (common for all 2x2GB sticks)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=177363
Nice results :D
Do you know which chips they use?
Nice results you got there :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
I haven't tried tightening tRFC or other values. I usually just set tRFC to the SPD default and focus on the primary timings.
Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert Igel
I don't know what chips they use but I'll try and find out.
Ok, Gigabyte is not tight with memories as i heard, you used also loosed timings,
so it seems like a reasonable difference.
If they are not Powerchips (which i believe they are) could be Elpida?
If there wasn't the 2,2 V setting, I'd also say Powerchips but they don't like that voltage. They are too cheap for Micron, so Elpida would bei my tip.
Let's see what SLi_dog finds out :)
If he ask Geil directly they won't tell like other companies that keep secret nowadays the ICs
True, I might just rip off the heatspreaders....maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Currently testing performance level 5:
http://www.geilunleashed.com/~sli_do...rest-Perf5.png
Sad,i really hoped you were an 'insider'.
At that frequency on formula they should be at 50ns or lower.
You should tighten up
Example of Evo at 540/562
540/PL7/strap333 vs 562/PL8/strap266
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/17kv00mh2gfdthkdp70j.jpg
Can powerchips run tRFC = 47 at 540MHz or 42 at 510? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert Igel
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/655w2fsjf8mgdp8c2976.jpg
I tried every combination of DSC, Ai, and TB that are possible to no avail. Even mapped it out on paper so I followed some organized pattern of testing. Tried everything, except the latest Bios 1003. Too late now. :(
Strong works but it needs a lot more nb voltage but drops latency to around 1ns
Put a 12cm fan on them and the fun begins...
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/4xniukfx9gtitp83sz0y.jpg
2.0V
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/sjcvfqgfy2mlqmomj2dy.jpg
2.1V
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/illv8o87gm7wky9gqjuw.jpg
Notes:
1)With 2.2V if i could loosen tRFC i can hit 585 but mobo has not this capability now but i will try that on the future.
2)PL=7 also works there as seen in previous post
3)Loosen from 5-5-4-x to 5-5-5-x is needed past 580MHz
4)With the help of the fan gained almost 13MHz so they are getting hot with even 2.0V or the passively heatsink is not enough.
5)Price has dropped 25€ today in Europe :up:
to bad they just jacked up the price @ newegg of the 800 to 141$... imo way to much for 800 rated stuff..
I agree but here the difference between them an Muskin CL4 for example has dropped to 25 euros where previously was 50.
But they are better even from 8500 that have same or greater price.
not sure i followed you above statement?
If you are going to buy just from specs then the PC8500 price of available 2x2GB kits is the same or higher than this kit
PC8500 starts from 153$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...1066+(PC2+8500
and the Evo CL4 are at 141$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...+800+(PC2+6400)
Wanna spend more money for the 8500 and never reach 560+MHz?
That is the question you ask to yourself.
but do you think all cl4 evo's will do 550+... that is my question lol
Surely. 560+ with ease except if they have changed the chips in this line in the past or will change in the future.
Everyone here did that after knowing the kit a little.
Be sure to get the ones that have the 2.0V sticker as shown in the photos in this thread, because i have read
other that say 1.9-2.0 or 2.1-2.3 on sticker.
well then that sucks for me.. i could have saved 40$ had i ordered yesterday..i am also looking at the new corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF kit i can get these at 119 right now with the fan...how would you compare them
I do not know what kind of chips they put in there all companies for the 8500 line.
I know these:
1)1000-1060 is the common clocks for all Powerchips. They are used on both
PC6400@4-4-4-12 and PC8000@5-5-5-15 kits with the PC6400 doing better because it is hard for powerchips sometimes to even be stable at 4-4-4-12 (405 was no go for my Redlines XP8000)
2)The PC8500 line needs better chips or the best powerchips. Some of them will have chips like in the Evo One that do 570+ with low voltage but i do not know which.
3)Big mystery of chips are the upcoming Dominator rated past PC9000 if i remember correctly and powerchips surely cannot do that.
If you want to buy Powerchips get the cheapest ones like Transcend Jetram and not give your money for 8500.
Of course you have to think what is the lowest stable memory frequency you need for 24/7 with your current setup.
I have tried Muskin XP-6400@4-4-4-12/Redlines and Evo One PC6400 CL5-5-5-15. None of them could be stable past 530+ so i ordered the Evo CL4 because i needed at least 540MHz ;)
so should i go for the 1066 evo ones then will i get further than with the 800 cl4's?? is it worth nearly 100$ more?? the corsair ones kinda worry me because there is little track record on them right now and i have no idea how well they will do minus the lab tests they say they got to almost 1150 with a retail set but again that is in a lab and may not be able to be reproduced imo in the same way in a reg system..
We also do not have a post/review of Evo 8500 ones if i remember correctly.
So go for the CL4 ones. I expect them to do the same since at 8500 rated speed and voltage the CL4 ones are doing the same (and better),
since they need 2.0V to past 560.
Wow, nice clocks. Have you run any Orthos 1hr/ OCCT 1 hour?
The Evo One BD 8500's I received from Newegg were someones Return, Box was physically opened and had Fingerprints on plastic. Opened a formal complaint with Newegg for 100% refund + shipping.
I'm sticking with the 4GBGSkill 1066PKs until I get my 2GBHK's back from RMA. Asus Maximus + GSkill PK = No issues running 560.
I did not test them with anything else because these won't be my 24/7 setup
only benching sessions.
They are at 540 for everyday with 1.9Vdimm.
But with no more less than ~5MHz for Orthos/Prime/OCCT should be ok,
since that is the max difference i have found between 32M and them.
Any screens? I'm trying to get a handle on DSC, Ai, and TB and whether or not I just got a bad board that needs and should have been RMA'd months ago.
I have the same board as you already noted.
So these are my options:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1041
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 13
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.3250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 1.82
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
If i drop relax level => PL=8 i can do the test above and without
changing the 1.35v of northbridge. I set also 8x multi in order to
not change cpu voltage. If you wont TB Strong then you need
1.45V nb at least (memory can do that)
And your screenshot right now doing folding/encoding/memtest/surfing/watching Lost all together :D
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/ed0ij8sc128qpuepysw5.jpg
Impressive DRAM and NB voltages to say the least! Back to drawing board, I'm gonna test lower NB, and DSC and Ai. Thanks for the settings.
Yea I was wondering why the latency was so high.....maybe the transbooster has been relaxed? I used to toy with this, but it actually caused instability rather than stability at 475 FSB..............I have it on auto ATM, which yields great performance at DDR2-1140:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...r-strong-trans
I bought a kit of the Evo One DDR2-800 and it ended up being a dud OCer.....may even be defective (going to test more in single ch mode tonight).......however I'm going to return for exchange and see how it does. I couldn't even boot at the same settings as the ESoteria.
I just threw the Evos in to test again.........ugh wouldn't even POST at 475 FSB 1:1 with 2.10V (in BIOS, so really like 2.18V), so I had to set it to 2.27V actual.......this kit is warrantied to 2.3V. I can't get it to POST at my Esoteria's settings with the max VDIMM.
I would really like to have a kit like that clocks like yours Spyrus, as it would use less VDIMM than my ESoteria, and have better heatspreaders (for longevity's sake)....
http://aycu31.webshots.com/image/444...2825545_rs.jpg
Here's a memory test with the same timings as the Esoteria and MCH BIOS settings........
PSC can do 47 but most the "normal" from 35, 42, is 52Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Well I must have a defective kit.......if it can't do DDR2-950 at 5-5-5-15 with 2.27V then something is wrong :p
Time to RMA for replacement and hope for a good one! I'll be happy if I can get a kit of Evos that OC as fast as my Esoteria with less voltage........which is what I'm seeing in thes Evo threads.
It is the frequency that can handle this.Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
Redlines with powerchips could not boot to 1000 with tRFC<43
but these babies can do that with tRFC = 42 up to 1020 without
extra voltage and to 1040 with +0.1volt.
I do not know what do you mean by 'normal' cause it is a timing so we can
set it to whatever value memory can handle. Is like 5-5-5-15 going to 5-5-5-12 for example.
hmm lowered the price now down on the eso's which way to go.. they raised the evo's but lowered the eso's go figure??
They reach the upcoming Dominator PC9000+ which will be expensive.
What else do you want? Grab them before they go away...
Today i look into them and i could see the bottom of the near end chips.
It is a Powerchip finally... they clock high due to 8-layer,cooling,high-binning (and voltage helps them - that is the weird part)
They have also the Black Dragon with lights red when they are working.
I'm about to RMA my Evos for exchange to see if I can get a good set......IMO these are freaking defective. If I can't run DDR2-950 5-5-5-15 with 2.28V then I doubt it can run DDR2-800 at 4-4-4-12......at least stable for memtest. My PC locked up after ~3s of HCI Windows Memtest.Quote:
Originally Posted by zfactor
I was looking to get them stable at 585MHz with 2.2V but for now it is impossible.
Higher tRFC = 60 could not help, since they do 577@2.1V. I think they
max out at 580 finally regardless voltage. I will test them again in short term
@binormalkilla your sticker on heatsprider what does it say? Be careful to say 2.0V.
Also if you can go to the store maybe you can choose them yourself.
The sticker says 2.3. I have to order them, as there aren't any shops carrying RAM like this anywhere near where I live, LOL. Only value RAM at Circuit City!