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Xeon E3110 oc - Quick test
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very nice. What kind of load temps are you getting with those insane volts?
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Cpu cooler with TT Big Typhonn, Maximus Formula and Team Xtreme 6400.
Bios is idle @ 28C, not sure of load temp.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6...shot263wi3.jpg
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excellent quick test....i knew i should buy xeon instead of e8400 :P
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nice piece, are this cheaper than E8400 on price
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"C2D" Xeons kick ass :D
How much extra that costs compared to E8400?
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Yeah, I'm curious to know which one is cheaper. I thought Xeon has a different architecture, etc?
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Hi Dumo nice try ! :clap:
Could you please post some results in 3d benches just to know how xeon can manage with games
I bet there is not difference between E8xxx and them but could you confirm that please
Regards
Mykou
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Originally Posted by
Mykou
Hi Dumo nice try ! :clap:
Could you please post some results in 3d benches just to know how xeon can manage with games
I bet there is not difference between E8xxx and them but could you confirm that please
Regards
Mykou
theres no difference between the two.
they have the same cores, same IPC, same cache, same cache stage.
all the same.
the bit with the "Xeon" line on 775, is they are suppose to be higher quality CPU's.
sometimes its true, sometimes not.
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Originally Posted by
Kunaak
theres no difference between the two.
they have the same cores, same IPC, same cache, same cache stage.
all the same.
the bit with the "Xeon" line on 775, is they are suppose to be higher quality CPU's.
sometimes its true, sometimes not.
Thanks Kunaak for answer :)
too late as i took one to try , find a few ones still available , not yet in France
and a link to some review " wolfdale Xeon E3110 vs conroe E6850"
http://www.overclockzone.com/zolkorn...01/Xeon_E3110/
very interresting indeed :p:
couldn't wait no more as in Europe wolfdales prices still run hot !
Regards
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Yeah mykou, since the introduction of the 45nm's the price has gone up by 35% because they are so hard to find.
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Originally Posted by
LyP0
Yeah mykou, since the introduction of the 45nm's the price has gone up by 35% because they are so hard to find.
right!
saw a guy on ebay selling E8400 for about 371$ while E8500 at 445$..
Has 10 of each.. damn and already sold 6 of 8500
maybe does he plan to buy some skulltrail with such money :ROTF:
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Originally Posted by
dinos22
dumo which one is which in the photo :cool:
Noticed that too....
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Wait, what's different in those boxes? I don't see anything but different lighting angle.
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Originally Posted by
mrcape
Wait, what's different in those boxes? I don't see anything but different lighting angle.
same here, chip on the right is tilted
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So, I guess if he ripped off those caps he'd turn the 8500 into a xeon.
Dare he try?:)
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Originally Posted by
Dumo
Left one is E3110
yeah that's what i thought considering the placement of boxes in first post
wonder what those resistors/caps or whatever they are called do exactly
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Originally Posted by
dinos22
If he was consistent, then note that the E3110 box was pictured first on the left, followed by the E8500 on the right. The E3110 box label was pictured first, followed by the E8500, therefore, it would appear that the cpu underside pictured first and on the left would be the E3110...followed by the E8500 on the right.
I'd say that the odds are 50/50 that I'm right. :D
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What's wrong with those 2 cpus?:(
I will take a pic before I freez it
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you could have just read his post to see which one was which you know :p:
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Originally Posted by
Dumo
What's wrong with those 2 cpus?:(
I will take a pic before I freez it
i haven't looked at my chips
will see what they are like
maybe would be good for Xeon owners to chime in as well
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Looks to be identical to a good Q746 e8400. Somehow I think I'd rather take a chance on one of these if I couldn't know the batch# beforehand.
Thanks for posting the info and pics!
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Originally Posted by
mrcape
Looks to be identical to a good Q746 e8400. Somehow I think I'd rather take a chance on one of these if I couldn't know the batch# beforehand.
Thanks for posting the info and pics!
You're the one that started it all:)
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Originally Posted by
Dumo
What are you talking about?
The caps Reefa_Madness highlighted in red. The xeon, supposedly the one on the left, doesn't have the caps that the 8500 has on the right. That leaves one wondering whether that's the difference between the chip operating as an 8500 or xeon. If that's the case, people can pull off those caps and get the ioat feature xeons have. But it's speculation until someone risks their 8500 to find out.
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^^^ there has to be a benefit from doing that first of all
i'm sure there would be many modding them if there was including me hahahah :D
well maybe not me doing the mods but on my hardware as i'm useless with a soldering iron :D
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Originally Posted by
keiths
If that's the case, people can pull off those caps and get the ioat feature xeons have. But it's speculation until someone risks their 8500 to find out.
Are you serious or you just trying to be funny:D
Actually it just the angle and lighting...when I took that pic.
Heres...all those caps and do not pull those out because it will kill any 8500:)
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5...shot265bh4.jpg
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Dumo
seems like the first shot was an optical illusion then for me too
as far as i know there should be no difference besides the fact they bin Xeon chips harder (what someone told me)
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It just misunderstanding Dinos:)
All cool
Anyway, as usual max. fsb with ddr2 and X38 is 550ish and it seems to hate voltages
With SS..Its like pulling teeth to go 5GHZ....It just a hot chip:(
In the other hand, this might be a gem under -70C and colder pot:)
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5...shot267gj8.jpg
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Originally Posted by
Dumo
With SS..Its like pulling teeth to go 5GHZ:(
i was just talking to a fellow aussie about our week 45 chips
the one i benched on sunday at 5.7GHz 1.73v
this chip is friggin hot man............i am talking about idling at stock settings at like 45C in bios LOL (TTBT+100CFM fan at full blast 24C ambient) hahahah :D
it really struggles like your on single stage because it's too hot
but LN2 is a different story as long as the pot has good mass and volts are not too high :D
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Those cpu's rocks with p35/965 chipset mobo's
I grabbed an E8400 put in on a p35 mobo (dfi) ss on him and :shocked:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=177773
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The max temperature for the E8500 is 1.225 while the E3110 is 1.25. I thought the E3110 should have lower max voltage rating than the E8xxx series.
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So with all this info out there, :shrug:
if you could have one of these chips E8400 or Xeon E3110 price no object ;)
and your a gamer/OCer that also uses it for your 24/7 workstation/playstation. :yepp:
Is there one that is the better choice, or is it to close to call and some kind of personal choice bullchit? :shakes: :shrug:
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This was the answer I was looking for... I'm planning an upgrade to E8400/E3110 and I wasn't sure about Xeon compatibility with my Maximus...
Many thanks :>
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Originally Posted by
jacky89
The max temperature for the E8500 is 1.225 while the E3110 is 1.25. I thought the E3110 should have lower max voltage rating than the E8xxx series.
Same as my E3110 i just received today 1.25v
E3110 SLAPM 2V7***** / ***414
FPO/Batch: Q750A158
Version: E27970-001
Pack Date: 02/06/08
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...Q750A158_1.jpg
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750A Xeon huh? I love seeing all of these new chips lately. Looking forward to the result. : ) good luck http://www.movement-radio.com/kontra.gif
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Nice low AUTO vcore at 1.152v in bios with Coretemp VID = 1.0875v. So I set bios vcore to lowest available option = 1.1v for 1.056v idle/1.048v load with Loadline Calibration disabled.
Realtemps shows Coretemp is over reporting temps by 7-10C :)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...ime95_load.png
Very promising cpu as the low vcore end
3207Mhz at 1.048v load
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...ime95_load.png
3300Mhz at 1.048v load
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...ime95_load.png
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Sure is
4005Mhz at 1.256v load
With loadline calibration disabled (vdroop enabled). Notice what CPU VTT is set ;)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...ime95_idle.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...ime95_load.png
:cool:
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Do you need special bioses to make it work on mobos that do not officially support it?
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Max fsb please mr eva200. :)
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Originally Posted by
Eldonko
Max fsb please mr eva200. :)
DOOOOOO IT! gah i feel like such a moron limiting myself to a Dell PERC 5i raid card, which turns away SO MANY intel based boards... BOOOO
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Originally Posted by
Ratatosk
Do you need special bioses to make it work on mobos that do not officially support it?
same thing as for e8400..
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Originally Posted by
Eldonko
Max fsb please mr eva200. :)
will do.. later :)
4203Mhz at 1.360v load - loadline calibration enabled (1.368v idle/1.360v load)
Prime95 v25.6 ~4+ hrs min mark
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...ime95_load.png
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Here is my little contribution
E3110 Q746A534 /2V7XXXX/XXX287
3.6ghz @1.23v bios / 1.14v load :) ( Cpu voltage damper disabled )
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4893/60623919ik2.jpg
4.32 ghz 1.41v bios air cooling ( valid in sig )
Xigmatek HDT 1284:)
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Nice chips of late. Here's what I am working on now.
Larry
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1...tt11uh5.th.jpg
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Originally Posted by
Mykou
how much voltage needed for 4Ghz stable?
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Originally Posted by
stephen23
how much voltage needed for 4Ghz stable?
lol didn't test for 4ghz stability :)
just bench for spi benchable @4.32 ghz air .
my goal was a decent 3.6 ghz at low vcore
maybe later make some benches with a better board and 8500 ram .
actually stuck at 480 fsb which I think is nice with this cheap mobo ;)
sold my former E8400 and E6600 allowed me to buy this xeon and just spend around $ 30 lol
my cheapiest rig ! :p:
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Where can you locate a E3110 to buy?
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Originally Posted by
Kryckter
Where can you locate a E3110 to buy?
seems xeons out of stock in most places :(
not happy with your penryn ??
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Originally Posted by
Eldonko
Max fsb please mr eva200. :)
For you mate :)
Max FSB tests continued....
Looks like this E3110 has a slightly higher max FSB for Super Pi 32M at least, topping out at 545FSB straight boot from bios to complete Super Pi 32M run. With max cpu validation matching my E8500 Q740A493T on same Asus Blitz Formula at 555FSB
Click images below for full screenshots
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/325918.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...z_valid_tn.png
Super Pi 32M @540FSB & @545FSB straight boot from bios
@540FSB
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...2s782ms_tn.png
@545FSB
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...6s219ms_tn.png
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Xeon E3110 air cooling
4.7 ghz @1.56v core bios
Sub 10 :bounce: :bounce:
superpi 1M >>>>> 9,968 sec under vista 32 :p:
http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/1108/w2sz5msu.jpg
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Originally Posted by
GUFY
Here is may Xeon.
:up:
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Originally Posted by
systemviper
So with all this info out there, :shrug:
if you could have one of these chips E8400 or Xeon E3110 price no object ;)
and your a gamer/OCer that also uses it for your 24/7 workstation/playstation. :yepp:
Is there one that is the better choice, or is it to close to call and some kind of personal choice bullchit? :shakes: :shrug:
Is anyone willing to answer what he is looking for ?
I'm in the same train as he is..
thanks
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Originally Posted by
vcp-cur
Is anyone willing to answer what he is looking for ?
I'm in the same train as he is..
thanks
If you can pick a good batch number of either one, that's your best bet. If you buy blindly with no idea of the batch, you probably have a better chance getting a fairly good one if you go Xeon. From what I can tell, there is no big difference between the good xeons and the good 8400s.
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nice results, looks like 4ghz with less that 1.3v is the 24/7 sweet spot
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Originally Posted by
vcp-cur
Is anyone willing to answer what he is looking for ?
I'm in the same train as he is..
thanks
I like xeons for their low vcore for most of them I saw around .
but in games , I don't think you should se a difference with penryns E8xxx.
I saw very good E8200's too :)
very promising for further steppings although I think I probably keep mine :p:
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Originally Posted by
Gen
nice results, looks like 4ghz with less that 1.3v is the 24/7 sweet spot
yes true .
even with my 3.6ghz 1.14v 24/7 so happy and don't regret my E6600 ^_^
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These are some answers from other forums
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Originally Posted by
Mithent
Core 2 LGA775 server chips have not been better or worse than desktop chips, I believe, except that they have different microcode and this risks incompatibility with some motherboards.
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Originally Posted by
silent-circuit
After pretty much going through hell as a result of decided to get (on more or less a whim) an X3220 instead of a Q6600 (both 2.4Ghz 1066Mhz FSB rated quads with 9x multis, same cache sizes, etc...) just trying to find a board that'll play nice with the thing I now /fully/ support what most of the [H] staff already repeat on a regular basis:
Desktop CPUs for Desktop boards.
Server CPUs for Server boards.
Do not mix them.
It may work perfectly... it may be torture. They are not the same, as the Xeon identifies itself to the machine differently (uses different microcode). Given Xeons are pretty much never officially supported on desktop boards, I cannot recommend you play the game I have been for a few weeks now.
after stuff like that, i wonder ... is the Xeon 3110 worth going with? that is my concern .. some say its really good ... others say you shouldn't get it ... I want some answers from people that know for sure what they're doing.
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Originally Posted by
vcp-cur
I want some answers from people that know for sure what they're doing.
Then state what board you're using and maybe someone has the same combo. I've never heard of microcode/incompatibility issues like that.
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I just ordered one, I really can't wait for it!
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Originally Posted by
mrcape
Then state what board you're using and maybe someone has the same combo. I've never heard of microcode/incompatibility issues like that.
DFI LP DK P35
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Then either 8400 or 3110 sdhould be good to go
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so if you want a Q9450 , you could also go with a X3350? and it will do just fine?
http://www.lagoom.com/INTEL_CPU_XEON...id-580363.html
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Originally Posted by
vcp-cur
If they really have that in stock. It should work just fine and is very temping.
Edit: not in stock, figures
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this is kind of the 1st time intel has this right? that both Xeons and normal Desktop CPU's can fit on the same mobo ?
Edit: it was in stock when I posted. wow
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This was the case with the 65nm chips as well. They made Xeons for socket 775 and many people bought those. There was talk that they were higher binned chips but I can't say for sure.
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Originally Posted by
vcp-cur
this is kind of the 1st time intel has this right? that both Xeons and normal Desktop CPU's can fit on the same mobo ?
Edit: it was in stock when I posted. wow
On the site it says in stock, but I called them and they said next week.
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happy to be able to reach 540 fsb with that mobo on air
4.6 ghz ( 8.5 x 540 / PC 6400@1080 4-4-4-4) 1.56v real bios ( set at 1.68v )
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/331019.png
http://images3.hiboox.com/vignettes/1208/ajvvi46k.jpg
something strange I couldn't raise VMCH more than 1.4v ( 1.5 and 1.7 available bios 903 asus P5K-C )
Regards
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Whats the verdict?
Anything over 4.0 needs the big volts?
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I got the E3110 and it requires less voltage than the two E8400 I had, which were stable at 445 MHz x 9 @ 1.365v in bios. The E3110 is stable at 460 MHz with the exact same settings, although with the higher FSB I backed off the Performance Level to 8, from Level 6
Not sure about maximums, but I o/c my E8400 to 4630 MHz @ 1.60v and this E3110 should do 4.6 with under 1.50v
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Originally Posted by
Xvys
I got the E3110 and it requires less voltage than the two E8400 I had, which were stable at 445 MHz x 9 @ 1.365v in bios. The E3110 is stable at 460 MHz with the exact same settings, although with the higher FSB I backed off the Performance Level to 8, from Level 6
Not sure about maximums, but I o/c my E8400 to 4630 MHz @ 1.60v and this E3110 should do 4.6 with under 1.50v
Great, 1.36 in bios, what would that be in real terms on the P5k?
On my P5B 1.36 bios = 1.296 real
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The P5K has Load Line Calibration, which reduces the vdrop and locks in the voltage closer to bios settings. So 1.365v in bios drops to 1.344v at idle and about 1.337v under load. If the load line is disabled, then more voltage is required for stability...such is the case with the P5B.
I had the P5B vanilla with a E6300 and it ran 24/7 at 490 MHz X 7 with 1.375v in bios. After vdrop the voltage would show 1.32v at idle. With that setup it o/c to 533FSB x 7 = 3730 MHz. With my P5K Deluxe I could only match the 3730 MHz with the E6300, but no better, despite all the voltage and bios adjustments with the P5K-D.
Tonight, I ran some basic tests at 4600 MHz, not bad for air cooling, at a little lower voltage than my E8400.
This E3110 runs way hotter than my E8400. Not sure this is due to the thermal diodes actually working, and not being stuck like on both of my E8400's? But it shows about 20C higher under load.
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Xvys
it seems that xeon's run hotter than 8400 and requires less vcore to reach same frequencies .
You should mention too taht " load calibration line " seems only efficient with deluxe P5K and not working on others .
I still have lot of vdroop on P5K-C with voltage damper enabled and this issue was already described on another topic .
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I should be getting my E3110 today.
I'll do some quick testing on the P5B Vanilla and if it doesnt like it Ill run out to get the P5K- Premium.
My real concern is the fact that any bios I tried on my P5B after the 0701 just wont overlock at all. ANd I need a new bios for the Xeon...So I dont know if its just the combo of the E6300 and the new BIOS that is bad, or its just new bios plus my P5B = not going anywere. I know its not ram cause its doing the same thing with different sticks.
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i wonder if one gets the dfi dk p35 right now together with an e3110 , how one will manage it to work? don't it need a bios update? or do they work right away and recognize it (same goes for other 45nm like e8500 or q9450 etc.)
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Originally Posted by
vcp-cur
i wonder if one gets the dfi dk p35 right now together with an e3110 , how one will manage it to work? don't it need a bios update? or do they work right away and recognize it (same goes for other 45nm like e8500 or q9450 etc.)
If your picking one up at a store then look for the 45nm sticker....All boards Ive come across that are retail and do support it have a sticker on them "45NM supported"
If your getting it online them maybe email em first.
P.S No E3110 today, picking it up at the post office tomorrow. Ill come back with a report.
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Here is my best 1M SPi time so far with the P5K-Premium. Gotta little more tweaking to do.
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nice sofarfrome :up:
does anybody actually run E3110 with batch ending with "T" ?
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Max CPUZ Validation @1.48v idle vcore hitting my max 32M PI stable FSB of 545FSB so no idea if FSB limited me or vcore or both heh. I was running 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 as well :)
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...4638mhz_tn.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...uz_4638mhz.png
Now to move from Windows 2008 and install Vista Ultimate SP1 64bit :)
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eva2000
Max CPUZ Validation @1.48v idle vcore hitting my max 32M PI stable FSB of 545FSB so no idea if FSB limited me or vcore or both heh. I was running 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 as well :)
Now to move from Windows 2008 and install Vista Ultimate SP1 64bit :)
nice xeon and mem !
Do you have some feedback from other Q750xxxxx owners ?
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Some quick results
http://www.is-mad.com/upload/userfil...110_TEST_1.jpg
Myn is batch Q745A784
Pack Date 02/06/08
450fsb @ 1.352 but drops to 1.312 under load...seems that Vdroop is way higher on with this chip then with the E6300....where underload my voltage would only drop 0.016
At first I was paranoid cause it just wouldnt boot at anything between 390-410FSB....regarldes of voltage. So I just said "f*c* it" and gave it 450 and it worked fine :)
THe above is stable in the 8mb two core Pi and 3dmark06...
More will follow.
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Originally Posted by
Mykou
nice xeon and mem !
Do you have some feedback from other Q750xxxxx owners ?
only other Q750A158s i've seen are PC's results http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=181476 and spyboy48's one http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=242957
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eva2000
thnks for links eva
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Wasnt that stable at 1.352...Had to bump up to 1.392, 1.33* under load to pass OCCT.
Before it would pass superPi 32 but not OCCT...
It really likes the volts. I'll wait for my 120Ultra before I go higher.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/335993.png
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What's up with this?
http://geting.se/image.php/93971-mar95jk3333.jpg
Your other CPU-Z screen doesn't say e8400 anywhere :)
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Originally Posted by
Eldonko
Q746A535
[-IMG]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/76/img04791oh9.jpg[/IMG]
Max FSB H20 = 580. Hoping for more sub zero.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4395/mar94lc1.jpg
1.31v for 4G Orthos.
[-IMG]http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4947/mar95jk3.jpg[/IMG]
Board = DFI P35 T2RS
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not the same version of cpu-z
1.44.1 vs 1.43
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Yeah, I tested stability before FSB and got new cpuz in between. Good attention to detail tho. :D
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yes
had to download it to validate my new max fsb at x 9
532 x 9 lol on this crappy board and its max 1.4v stuck on NB :p:
and still dude for pencil mod > 1.59v real vs 1.56 max before (1.70 set in bios ) :ROTF:
4787 mhz lol still air still vista 32 ^_^
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/336661.png
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1003/478ag4.jpg
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Xeon 3110
Got a Xeon 3110 today, but the temps reported under everest and coretemp are just out of this world. With 4.5Ghz@1.45volt the temps are around 80c, Idle around 49C. Is this normal or the diodes of this CPU are broken?