New EK stuff, res DDC top, DDC top

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11-13-2007, 09:08 AM
Pete

New EK stuff, res DDC top, DDC top

Saw these on Eddy's site so though i'd shear them!

Quote:

EK-DDC X-TOP
Threads: G1/4
Dimensions: 67×62×20mm

Included:
- 4 M4x24mm screws
- 1 2,5mm allen key
- Weight of the packet 160g
- fittings not included

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/DDC-X-TOPa.jpg

EK-DDC X-TOP
Threads: G3/8
Dimensions: 67×62×25mm

Included:
- 4 M4x24mm screws
- 1 2,5mm allen key
- Weight of the packet 180g

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/DDC-X-TOP-G3-8.jpg

The very best DDC-TOP-RESERVOIR solution available on market.
The EK custom DDC top with integrated reservoir solution.
Reservoir diameter 50mm
Total height 160mm DDC TOP dimensions: 67x62x20mm (140mm)
Reservoir total height 120mm DDC TOP dimensions: 67x62x20mm (100mm)
Fittings are not included!

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/DDC-X-RES-140a.jpg

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/DDC-X-RES-100a.jpg

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/DDC-X-RESa.jpg
11-13-2007, 09:13 AM
Zeus

Just saw it this afternoon and hesitated to post it here. :D

I already have petra's top and i already have a 200mm EK multioption res but this still looks very very tempting, just like EK's new Supreme block.

Must resist though.. :(
11-13-2007, 09:14 AM
welshtom

G3/8 version eh?

maybe we will see cool EK barbs for our Thermochill Rads soon :)
11-13-2007, 09:18 AM
Xilikon

Ohh, the last top with the small reservoir looks perfect for my project since the barb is pointed correctly for my tubing and shorter tubing by removing a separate reservoir.

If the price is right, you get a new buyer in line :D
11-13-2007, 09:23 AM
Sparky

What about cyclone effect in the top/res combo?

So which is better, Petra's top or EK top... hmm....
Already have a Petra's top so I'm sticking with it :)
11-13-2007, 09:24 AM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshtom

G3/8 version eh?

maybe we will see cool EK barbs for our Thermochill Rads soon :)

When i saw it i was trying to think what is 3/8'', cheers Tom you've refreshed my mind and also made me smile about what maybe to come!
11-13-2007, 09:25 AM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

What about cyclone effect in the top/res combo?

There is non, look back a few pages there is a EK res devlopment topic where he shows the missing part in the photos above that stops it. All it is a small plastic plate that stops the water from spinning
11-13-2007, 09:56 AM
IanY

Holy smokes. He's trying to corner the market :)

As long as he can guarantee that cyclones will not happen again. Those small tube reservoirs make me nervous.

Plus, we already determined that Alphacool's version of reservoir on top of DDC+/Ultra pump isn't so good. What makes this better?
11-13-2007, 09:57 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

There is non, look back a few pages there is a EK res devlopment topic where he shows the missing part in the photos above that stops it. All it is a small plastic plate that stops the water from spinning

OK as long as that little piece comes with it then no problem !
11-13-2007, 10:09 AM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

OK as long as that little piece comes with it then no problem !

Eddy showed it with it but i have no idea. I guess we wait for him
11-13-2007, 10:12 AM
Jedda

It'll be interesting to see if Alex comments.

There was obviously a good reason for the PTS top overhang. If not, a shape matched top would've been made.

We need to see underneath the top to see what magic Eddy has wrought. I've been surprised from the first pics by the res rebate. The tardus top?
11-13-2007, 10:13 AM
Waterlogged

From the pictures provided, it looks like the res bottom of that top/res combo is different from the v2.0 res bottom. There is no divider shown in the pic posted by Pete. I'm not positive but, I think the way Eddy has the inlet barb positioned, there my be no need for the divider as the return water might cancel out the cyclone effect. In the standard res, the inlet is off to the side which had little to no effect in canceling the cyclone effect.

As for the G3/8 version top, looks like it will perform about as well as a Radiical top
11-13-2007, 10:44 AM
Pete

3 Attachment(s)

Right you lot, you have the man him self, the guy that spend the time to draw the block, make it and everything here posting tons of info and asking us this and that. Just look for his stuff all answers there.

5 mins if that this took! Enough said

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Finally I made and tested a full solution to cyclon effect in Ek reservoirs.
A very simple and cheap solution:

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/Anti-cyclon2.jpg

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images/Anti-cyclon1.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

No problem at all!
http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/images...cyclon-dim.jpg

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Originally Posted by Eddy_EK

Update!

We made some simulation test and found a excelent solution for the DDC top RES option.

One picture is attached here.
The trajectoryes shows a speed of water.
Which shows the water path and thet there will be no air bubble sucking here ;)
The most important part is the insert into the reservoir on to the DDC top. Looks like Anti-Cyclon bit it has different features.
11-13-2007, 10:49 AM
Slitch

I like it! :)
But can anyone explain why the intake on the DDC is off-set?
That thing doesn't look centered at all!
11-13-2007, 10:58 AM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slitch

I like it! :)
But can anyone explain why the intake on the DDC is off-set?
That thing doesn't look centered at all!

Your assuming the res is centered. ;) It's actually shifted to the back of the top.

Pete, sorry, I'd forgotten about that.
11-13-2007, 11:01 AM
RockfordFosgate

I love EK Stuffs :D
11-13-2007, 11:11 AM
Martinm210

That's awesome.

When is someone going to start making D5 tops though?

Both of mine are tired of being stock, and would love some EK goodness...;)
11-13-2007, 11:18 AM
Jedda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinm210

That's awesome.

When is someone going to start making D5 tops though?

Both of mine are tired of being stock, and would love some EK goodness...;)

Yeah, we need some D5 death threads to balance matters.;)
11-13-2007, 11:19 AM
Pete

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Originally Posted by Martinm210

When is someone going to start making D5 tops though?

Koolance already do but thats swearing! I guess Petra (Alex) might in time, if we all started a top as a poll for it, with it being ported, if not Alex maybe Eddy.

Start the topic i'd back you on it. I might be able to get one lazered and rendered into cad if someone sent the part to copy and then you can mod the drawing then
11-13-2007, 11:44 AM
THE JEW (RaVeN)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1194979449

What program was used for this analysis? Thanks.
11-13-2007, 11:49 AM
Martinm210

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedda

Yeah, we need some D5 death threads to balance matters.;)

Who knows, maybe all the performance tweaking of the custom tops does reduce longevity..

It's ok, I have a basic D5 model I'm willing to sacrifice:ROTF:

Seriously though, it just seems to be an untapped market. Now there's half a dozen DDC tops and not a single "non aluminum" (sorry koolance) version for the D5:confused:
11-13-2007, 12:01 PM
phelan1777

this has my attention and I pose a question, given how the EK tops/bottoms are standard design, could a larger capacity res be put in place of the stock? What I mean is more volume of water, like the 150/200/250?
11-13-2007, 12:12 PM
Spawne32

wow that water analysis is awesome, but what if we want the cyclone :p:
11-13-2007, 12:24 PM
phelan1777

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

wow that water analysis is awesome, but what if we want the cyclone :p:

Stick your head in your washing machine or move out west.:up:
11-13-2007, 12:27 PM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1194979449

What program was used for this analysis? Thanks.

FEM, amazing program
11-13-2007, 12:29 PM
Petra

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)

What program was used for this analysis? Thanks.

My guess would be COSMOSFloWorks as a component of SolidWorks, no?
11-13-2007, 12:34 PM
Walternowi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawne32

wow that water analysis is awesome, but what if we want the cyclone :p:

The cyclone is not that bad. It gives me the warm and fuzzy feeling that my DDC2 is alive and kicking :D
11-13-2007, 12:36 PM
Jedda

Martin
Its a niche waiting, I agree.
I'd like to see a screw thread material combo that gave more feel. I think a lot of users don't know when their screws hit 'finger tight' with the current non see through tops. With 40 years experience it was still a challenge to me that I met by generously under tightening. Never the less they passed leak testing.
11-13-2007, 12:51 PM
nullface

Eddy i hate you :( Just bought a Petras Top
11-13-2007, 12:56 PM
Jimmer411

D5 top that allows metal barbs pls!
11-13-2007, 01:01 PM
Ctrl_Alt_Delete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmer411

D5 top that allows metal barbs pls!

i'll prolly get flamed for this but here goes...
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roducts_id=559

Metal top that takes metal barbs for the D5.:up:
11-13-2007, 01:12 PM
Martinm210

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedda

Martin
Its a niche waiting, I agree.
I'd like to see a screw thread material combo that gave more feel. I think a lot of users don't know when their screws hit 'finger tight' with the current non see through tops. With 40 years experience it was still a challenge to me that I met by generously under tightening. Never the less they passed leak testing.

Yeah, I think I still have a tendency to overtighten myself...can't help it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctrl_Alt_Delete

i'll prolly get flamed for this but here goes...
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roducts_id=559

Metal top that takes metal barbs for the D5.:up:

Ahhhh....my EYES:shocked: :shocked:

*alumiphobic stubles away completely blinded...*..:D
11-13-2007, 01:15 PM
Patriote

Oh my freaking gawd. Does Eddy basically creates everything (That makes sense) that ppls ask for! If so, that is just amazing. Really, those looks awesome. That Top\Res combo thing looks kick@ss!
11-13-2007, 01:21 PM
Pete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriote

Does Eddy basically creates everything (That makes sense) that ppls ask for!

No he wouldn't make me my custom part but Alex would!
11-13-2007, 01:39 PM
[XC] DragonOrta

That top/res combo is mine the second PTS gets them.
11-13-2007, 02:05 PM
Jimmer411

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctrl_Alt_Delete

i'll prolly get flamed for this but here goes...
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roducts_id=559

Metal top that takes metal barbs for the D5.:up:

Im talking about a real top, cmon! :rofl:

Id easily part with $30 for a delrin top for my D5, even if there was no performance gain. Some of us want to make the switch to 3/8 tubing, and with the D5 its just not possible, 1/2 is hard enough to squeeze on those barbs!
11-13-2007, 02:12 PM
Cupcake

Yeah I would swap tops just to get decent barbs lol, the stock ones on the D5 are so crappy
11-13-2007, 02:51 PM
Eddy_EK

Hi!

Was I so long time away from forum... so many posts. :)
The anti-cyclon for DDC X-RES is hight here in my hands.
Live pictures in action tomorrow.
11-13-2007, 03:18 PM
newls1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmer411

D5 top that allows metal barbs pls!

Yes! Holy crap that would make life easier
11-13-2007, 04:31 PM
disruptfam

nice.... looks like ek is hitting the wc market hard and strong :)

With all this new gear coming out...
11-13-2007, 11:56 PM
Digital Nirvana

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls1

Yes! Holy crap that would make life easier

agreed!
11-14-2007, 03:12 AM
Jimmer411

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls1

Yes! Holy crap that would make life easier

No one hears our cries, even tho its one of the most popular pumps nowadays :(

I am liking all the new EK stuff being released lately :D
11-14-2007, 01:27 PM
Jedda

Eddy,
Is there any performance difference between the G3/8 port DDC top and the G1/4 version?
11-14-2007, 01:36 PM
Cyprio

What DDC versions are your tops suitable for Eddy?
11-14-2007, 01:45 PM
[XC] DragonOrta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyprio

What DDC versions are your tops suitable for Eddy?

Ummmm... Last I knew all DDC pumps had the same housings, so they all could use the same top.
11-14-2007, 02:06 PM
Cyprio

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] DragonOrta

Ummmm... Last I knew all DDC pumps had the same housings, so they all could use the same top.

Taken from Petra's blurb on their top:

"The DDCT-01s represents a minor revision of our original DDCT-01 design, providing compatibility with the newer, blue impellered Laing DDC-3 series of pumps that are currently available in Europe. In addition to expanded compatibility, the DDCT-01s also provides slightly improved performance, with slightly reduced power consumption."
11-14-2007, 02:10 PM
el rolio

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

So which is better, Petra's top or EK top... hmm....
Already have a Petra's top so I'm sticking with it :)

same here! i was quite happy to have the first petra's top, so i am keeping it! yeaaa

i might have to make 2 systems to rock Ek's top tho. oh and HI PETRA!
11-14-2007, 02:34 PM
Petra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyprio

Taken from Petra's blurb on their top:

"The DDCT-01s represents a minor revision of our original DDCT-01 design, providing compatibility with the newer, blue impellered Laing DDC-3 series of pumps that are currently available in Europe. In addition to expanded compatibility, the DDCT-01s also provides slightly improved performance, with slightly reduced power consumption."

That blurb was put there partially because I had to make a slight design modification to make the top compatible with the smaller impeller inlet eye that Laing switched to with the DDC-3 series pumps. Remember, my original top was built around the DDC-2 pump (which had a larger inlet eye). At this point, because Laing discontinued the older pumps, I'd hope that everyone would be designing for the DDC-3 series (in which case, compatibility shouldn't be an issue).

Honestly, though, I'm kinda hoping that Eddy's top gives me a good, solid reason to redesign mine... because I'm pretty certain that I can get more out of these great little pumps and nothing breeds innovation like a little competition. :D

Hi el rolio! :)
11-14-2007, 02:46 PM
Cyprio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra

That blurb was put there partially because I had to make a slight design modification to make the top compatible with the smaller impeller inlet eye that Laing switched to with the DDC-3 series pumps. Remember, my original top was built around the DDC-2 pump (which had a larger inlet eye). At this point, because Laing discontinued the older pumps, I'd hope that everyone would be designing for the DDC-3 series (in which case, compatibility shouldn't be an issue).

Honestly, though, I'm kinda hoping that Eddy's top gives me a good, solid reason to redesign mine... because I'm pretty certain that I can get more out of these great little pumps and nothing breeds innovation like a little competition. :D

Hi el rolio! :)

I was rather selfish in asking as i have 2 ddc Ultras sitting here. :D
11-14-2007, 03:02 PM
el rolio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra

Honestly, though, I'm kinda hoping that Eddy's top gives me a good, solid reason to redesign mine... because I'm pretty certain that I can get more out of these great little pumps and nothing breeds innovation like a little competition. :D

yes, i like how that sounds. you two go at it for a year, and while you are at it, see if you can get liang to improve their pumps too. i want NO sound whatsoever from the pump once i put on your tops. SILENCE! and then when i finally get a job (end of 2008 at the earliest) we can see the fruits of the innovations.

ahhhh, sounds great!
11-14-2007, 03:39 PM
Jedda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petra

Honestly, though, I'm kinda hoping that Eddy's top gives me a good, solid reason to redesign mine... because I'm pretty certain that I can get more out of these great little pumps and nothing breeds innovation like a little competition. :D

Hi el rolio! :)

Alex
Am interested in the slight overhang of your top. What constrained that?

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