Sapphire HD2900XT (retail) overclocked result on stock cooler @850/1100

Overclocked result on retail card Sapphire HD2900XT in my hand, i think it good OC on stock cooler to stop is 850/1100MHz-core/mem, because my room temp or surrounding's 30-31 ํC and card temp around 50-55 ํC in idle load at STD core speed.

pic...
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5612/13080462jc3.jpg http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1664/33331555lu3.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1776/59397734mk4.jpg http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2305/55789218dr2.jpg

test setup...
QX6700@3.6GHz (400*9),1.57Vcore
ASUS P5W64 WS
G.SKILL 8000HZ@800MHz 3-3-3-5,2.3V
Sapphire HD2900XT@850/1100MHz-Stock Cooler, driver 8.36(bundle CD)
Western WD800
SilverStone OP650
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/5250/53198442hi2.jpg

3DMark result...
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http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7417/26083653up1.png
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http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4958/12139437am6.png
05
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1179/64182285cg7.png
06
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8703/83746736nu7.png

:)

very sweet. I am surprised to see the memory being able to go to 1100 via overdrive. I thought the limit was 900?

Pretty sweet results man. How noisy is this card?

They gotta be faster than that surely :stick: my X1900XTX isn't far behind except nature at E6700 @ 3.8Ghz XTX @ 760 / 918

http://www.livinglarge.pwp.blueyonde...ages/x1900.PNG

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They gotta be faster than that surely :stick: my X1900XTX isn't far behind except nature at E6700 @ 3.8Ghz XTX @ 760 / 918

http://www.livinglarge.pwp.blueyonde...ages/x1900.PNG

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normal, 3dmark01 is depending on CPU

nice numbers ,how does the cf work? still with the dongle ,or is it with a small bridge .? kan one use an ordinary sli bridge? kan striker run cf? or is it only 975 chipsets that can cf ?

u must have samsung IC's ?

ATI's 3dmark scores are meaningless since this card cannot outperform an 8800GTS 640 80% of the time. hence my theory of ATi optimizing for 3dmark........who cares about some meaningless number when it cannot perform in game accordingly to the benchmark.

nice initial scores.......

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u must have samsung IC's ?

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Hynix for 2900 XT.....

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Originally Posted by Dynasty

nice initial scores.......




Hynix for 2900 XT.....

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I know they are on reference cards, but maybe sb will put samsungs on ?

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normal, 3dmark01 is depending on CPU

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Off topic, but Denny, that girl in your signature is beautiful! Is she your girlfriend/wife/fiancee?

OP: The 06 numbers look promising...

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Off topic, but Denny, that girl in your signature is beautiful! Is she your girlfriend/wife/fiancee?

OP: The 06 numbers look promising...

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Yes , it is . :) , but the link in his signature it's gone .


op : what driver ?

huh....

rofl :banana: , even if he had airconditioner there, it could be said "by stock cooling"

nice job.

^^ owned? :D

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rofl :banana: , even if he had airconditioner there, it could be said "by stock cooling"

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I agree. If he was to modify the sink in any way, it would not be. Besides, I really doubt that fan is doing anything that important for a mild 850/1100 oc anyways.

funny how we twist words so much, they lose thier meaning...

He said on stock cooler, and that is on the stock cooler.

yep.... stock.... gotcha...

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yep.... stock.... gotcha...

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I kinda get what Kunaak is trying to say....Stock cooling generally entails only using the stock cooler, without forcing more air into it, most people that use stock mean just that.
"Stock" not a fan forcing air into the blower on the "Stock" cooler :rolleyes:

I have read that the SHAPPIRE doesn't come w/ a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter, Is that truth? where the heck am I gonna find one?

Why is the score so low?

I don't have quad core
I don't have 8-pin power so i can't overclock my card

you have quad core
and you have massive overclock

but my score is 500 higher than you?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...irstrun001.jpg

8 pin power connector is not needed to OC.

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I have read that the SHAPPIRE doesn't come w/ a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter, Is that truth? where the heck am I gonna find one?

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You can't. If you don't have an 8 pin pci-e on your PSU, you'll have to use 2 x 6 pin, in which case you are limited with overclocking. Basically, if you want the most from this card, you MUST purchase a new PSU if your current one doesn't have an 8 pin.

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Yes , it is . :) , but the link in his signature it's gone .


op : what driver ?

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driver 8.36(bundle CD)

also CrossFire support is now natively supported by the AMD ATI Radeon HD 2900-series; the external CrossFire dongle is a thing of the past.

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Originally Posted by rob[GL]

Why is the score so low?

I don't have quad core
I don't have 8-pin power so i can't overclock my card

you have quad core
and you have massive overclock

but my score is 500 higher than you?

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Is he perhaps using Vista? and your benching under XP...That could explain the difference.....but im not quite sure.

well 05 dont benefit from quad core, .... much maybe a bit ,

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You can't. If you don't have an 8 pin pci-e on your PSU, you'll have to use 2 x 6 pin, in which case you are limited with overclocking. Basically, if you want the most from this card, you MUST purchase a new PSU if your current one doesn't have an 8 pin.

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False. Im running 1235MHz core on 2x6-pins.

Ok just curious

Did this card come with an acutal DVD copy of HL2 episode 2? Or just a pre-order #?

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Originally Posted by what?

Ok just curious

Did this card come with an acutal DVD copy of HL2 episode 2? Or just a pre-order #?

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the game isnt out yet.. it make sense to assume that its a preorder/discount number, which u can start a steam account and enter it i think when the game is out so u dont need to pay ... like what AMD did with including HL2 with X2

HL2 came bundled with 9800 (whats X2??)

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funny how we twist words so much, they lose thier meaning...

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yah... i'm understand is you meaning since first post. :D

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Originally Posted by n00b 0f l337

He said on stock cooler, and that is on the stock cooler.

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Hey ! don't serious he is funny :toast:

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Originally Posted by what?

Did this card come with an acutal DVD copy of HL2 episode 2? Or just a pre-order #?

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Yes have the copy HL2 episode 2

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Originally Posted by rob[GL]

Why is the score so low?

I don't have quad core
I don't have 8-pin power so i can't overclock my card

you have quad core
and you have massive overclock

but my score is 500 higher than you?

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yah yah.. what you use the driver version ?, i'll try again on my E6700 and new driver 8.37 but now card not put in my hand, i send to friend for review when it back i come to update again :)

What kind of Audio is integrated to these cards?

impressive results & I wait to see core1GHz as soon.:)

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Originally Posted by Kinc

False. Im running 1235MHz core on 2x6-pins.

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Hmmm, more rumors dispelled... Thanks for that info. Have you done any tests on power draw from your system?
Also, do you think you can get more from the card with an 8 pin configured PSU?

I have got my card today... i just can't make run 3D06... games run fine.. (Good quality, i m impressed..) any tips at launch? ( the screen of start of 3D06 stay.. i have install the version coming with the card ( Full version of 3D06)..

Badly my OCZ have be kill this morning, so i have need use a Enermax 620W Liberty.. with the 2x 6pin PCi express...

someone know if the demo of Ruby is leaked allready ?

add "-nosysinfo" to 3DMark shortcut.

Thanks cadaveca,,,

umm those scores seem low .... http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...67890/humm.jpg

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Hmmm, more rumors dispelled... Thanks for that info. Have you done any tests on power draw from your system?
Also, do you think you can get more from the card with an 8 pin configured PSU?

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you know what I don't understand, I have a PSU with a 8-pin power connector, but it is already in use by the mobo, and I don't think the mobo would OC as good if it wasn't there, I mean, I don't know any PSU on the market that has two of these cables?

EDIT: forget this, just read on an another forum about this. I think I'll use dual 6-pin, or an adapter...

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Originally Posted by momomo6789

umm those scores seem low .... http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...67890/humm.jpg

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12500 is wha´t i get wiht my oced 8800gtx so low it not hehe

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HL2 came bundled with 9800 (whats X2??)

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i think there was a promotion with AMD X2 4000 seris with a free copy of HL2 game

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...7890/humm1.jpg

these things are so easy to o/c maybe 880 on core and 1150 stable on memory today idk :0

I don't think this has been answered yet, but how is CCC overdrive itself showing an option for 1100mhz to be available in overclocking the memory? Is this only with older drivers as I thought the newer drivers only allowed up to 900mhz if overclocking through CCC Overdrive?

ohh go on techpowerup .com and find amd gpu clock tool :)

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you know what I don't understand, I have a PSU with a 8-pin power connector, but it is already in use by the mobo, and I don't think the mobo would OC as good if it wasn't there, I mean, I don't know any PSU on the market that has two of these cables?

EDIT: forget this, just read on an another forum about this. I think I'll use dual 6-pin, or an adapter...

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the 8 pin is a new connector.. for OC you can use 2x 6pin connector (one go on the 8pin).. Actually Enermax have galaxy DXX with 2x 8 pins and 2x 6pins...they sell too new cable with 8 pins for modular version ( you just need buy the cable.. alone..) OCZ, Silverstone and many other have release PSU with the 8 pin..

@Cantakerous.. for see overdrive function, you need the 8 pins... if you are using 2x 6pins Pciexpress connector, you can use AMD clock tool, like have say momomo... (i m sure with only one PCIexpresss 6 pin, the soft should work too.. not sure i have try..)

for the 3DMark boot up issue:
rename/remove the file called "direcpll.dll" from windows\system32\Futuremark\MSC -folder (WinXP, under Vista this file is in a different folder, use search to locate it)

other option is to use "-nosysteminfo" switch in the 3DMark shortcut, but then you wont be able to send results to ORB

so the other way allows submissions? I wondered how people were posting screens of 3Dmark recognizing the card, but my 3Dmark is blank!

Thanks Macci!

Vista file location : C:windows\system32\Futuremark

file removal works, BTW.

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for the 3DMark boot up issue:
rename/remove the file called "direcpll.dll" from windows\system32\Futuremark\MSC -folder (WinXP, under Vista this file is in a different folder, use search to locate it)

other option is to use "-nosysteminfo" switch in the 3DMark shortcut, but then you wont be able to send results to ORB

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I remember that very file having issues with Aquamark successfully running and displaying a score when the X800 series cards came out. An updated version of that file had to be placed in the Aquamark directory for the test to completely finish and not end with a solid black screen.

Hey you should try removing the plastic and fan, attaching 2-120mm fans and let us know if you get any temp drops!?

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I remember that very file having issues with Aquamark successfully running and displaying a score when the X800 series cards came out. An updated version of that file had to be placed in the Aquamark directory for the test to completely finish and not end with a solid black screen.

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That was to do with PCI-E actually.

man these cards are cool. but i think they made the mistake they made on the x1800xl they didnt clock them higher stock. iono the logic behind this im sure they all can overclock mad why not just make them slightly higher. then again thats what the XTX is for.

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man these cards are cool. but i think they made the mistake they made on the x1800xl they didnt clock them higher stock. iono the logic behind this im sure they all can overclock mad why not just make them slightly higher. then again thats what the XTX is for.

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well the power consumption would be through the roof if they were clocked any higher. it would be at levels unacceptable for a normal consumer product its already pushing it as it is.

also this is no problem for overclockers because we have huge psus and cooling and dont mind setting the clocks in the proper place and our nice 300+ watt while overclocked card humms along ...

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Originally Posted by momomo6789

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...7890/humm1.jpg

these things are so easy to o/c maybe 880 on core and 1150 stable on memory today idk :0

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Hmmmm.......Compared to an XFX 8800 Ultra overclocked on air with the default heatsink.... :(

http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/A...720_1224_1.png

whats momo's cpu and oc?
it would be nice to see some tests using the same test bed with max oced 8800gtx vs max oced x2900xt both on stock air

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Hmmmm.......Compared to an XFX 8800 Ultra overclocked on air with the default heatsink.... :(

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Well nvidia is usually stronger in 06.. (and 03).

well i think this is how it goes: HD2900XT OC better on LN2 ... 8800's OC better on default cooler ... and ATI is better at 05, while nv is better at 06... seems that way to me. Kinc waas able to get 3dmark 05 single card WR with 2900XT which was 30k points i think... and i dont see kinping post any more result from that 8800Ultra... i guess that 30,000 will be the single card 3dmark05 WR for a while

hi guys

got my sapphore x2900xt 1 hour ago


1st bench 3dmark 2005



3dmark 2005 @ E6600 @ 3600mhz - X2900 DEFAULT 20536 Marks :eek: :eek:

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1695/2k5x2900ck3.jpg

Can do some game benches?

The 8.38 driver is in the driver section.

mascaras which driver was used? and what about max temperature in stock freqs. in 3D load?

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The 8.38 driver is in the driver section.

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Seconded:

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...estionID=27535


Yesterday, 8.37 was here, and file was called 47097. Today we have different filename, 47096.

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Seconded:

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...estionID=27535


Yesterday, 8.37 was here, and file was called 47097. Today we have different filename, 47096.

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well i don't know about the ati site, but it's in the driver section of this forum ( i posted), but will check out the ati site now.

edit: it's not on the ati site, the xp driver is 47096 and vista is 47097, the same as yesterday, so now it's only in the driver section of THIS forum.
link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...15#post2194015

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The 8.38 driver is in the driver section.

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where???



im using 8.37.4.3 (47096 from ATI site)


temps:


Idle : ~53c






http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7351/tempsbg0.jpg







Playing DOD : 71c

15:35:15, ASIC Temperature via LM64 on DDC3 I2C [0] (C) = 54.750, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 513.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 506.25

15:44:46, ASIC Temperature via LM64 on DDC3 I2C [0] (C) = 71.125, MCLK(MHz)[0] = 828.00, SCLK(MHz)[0] = 742.50




ASIC Temperature via LM64 on DDC3 I2C [0]
Minimum temperature: 54.375 C
Maximum temperature: 71.750 C
Average temperature: 58.601 C







http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9191/dfed3.jpg

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well i don't know about the ati site, but it's in the driver section of this forum ( i posted), but will check out the ati site now.

edit: it's not on the ati site, the xp driver is 47096 and vista is 47097, the same as yesterday, so now it's only in the driver section of THIS forum.
link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...15#post2194015

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isnt that 8.38 beta drivers that had a lot of bugs and ATi removed ???

i tryed install and say cannot find any compatible hardware ???




regards

you guys do realise that it has been said several times from several sources that 3dmark scores mean absolutely JACK SH|T for real gaming performance on this 2900 XT.

its 3dmark scores are way higher than what it can do in real gaming.
in other words,,, it looks good on paper,,,,
but the card is still no slouch.

You might be able to try the 8.38 RC2 drivers

http://asustreiber.de/request.php?556

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You might be able to try the 8.38 RC2 drivers

http://asustreiber.de/request.php?556

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thats for Vista , i have windows XP , there is no RC2 for XP???

regards

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well i think this is how it goes: HD2900XT OC better on LN2 ......

i guess that 30,000 will be the single card 3dmark05 WR for a while

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Don't bet on this..... ;)

I got some 3dMark number also, both cards in stock cooling (with no additional fans kunaak xD ):

QX6700 @ 3.4Ghz. 160.03 for Nvidia and 8.37.4.2 for ATI

Asus 8800 Ultra @ 674/2324

3DMARK 2003: 45643
3DMARK 2005: 19369 (sorry, this was at 612/2160)
3DMARK 2006: 14585


Asus 2900XT @ 835/1924

3DMARK 2003: 41862
3DMARK 2005: 20419
3DMARK 2006: 13160

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...7890/13332.jpg
i got a 400 point increase from going for cd drivers to the ones on amd's website

also here is 05 score

cpu @ 4.4g

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...67890/VM05.jpg

one more thing is 06 i can pass sm3 tests @ 880/1080 but the 2nd sm2 test crashes :( also that was not max on 05 just started

also i modified the heat sink which gave no increase in scores or o/c

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...0/IMG_7690.jpg

2 big fans stuck on :) just droped the temps about 20c load and about 25 idle

I'm curious, with those two 120mm fans on there, did you just leave the heatsink on the card? I see something red behind the fans and it looks like its the old intake to the stock fan?

yes i left the stock heatsink just added some fans :)

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Originally Posted by SPQQKY

You can't. If you don't have an 8 pin pci-e on your PSU, you'll have to use 2 x 6 pin, in which case you are limited with overclocking. Basically, if you want the most from this card, you MUST purchase a new PSU if your current one doesn't have an 8 pin.

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sorry to get OT, but what is the best PSU for OCing these in terms of value, I have an ocz gamestream 700w, I don't have the 8pin, and the x2900xt is on its way.

i'm using Corsair HX 520w and it's no problem to run the card..eventhough i can't access the overdrive in the control center dunno why
link..

you need the 8 pin connector to access overdrive control panel

The overdrive bearly gives you any play in speeds
858/900. Garbage ram can go much further than that easy.

there is anyway to get overdrive work with 2x6 pin???


regards

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there is anyway to get overdrive work with 2x6 pin???


regards

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Unless you take a 6-Pin and modifiy it so that it brings 2 grounds over to the other 2 pins. There was a good screen shot of an adapator for 6-8 Pin on the forums somewhere.

so the rest 2 pins left only just a ground?

just use the amd clock tool thing i have never used ccc once for o/cing

the CCC brings an option to set the fan speed afaik, that's one we can't do on amd gpu clock tool
and also the tool doesn't work on XFire setup, so we can't OC the card w/o overdrive in Xfire, and also the tool is no go on vista

I don't remember seeing any fan speed option.

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just use the amd clock tool thing i have never used ccc once for o/cing

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i know that , i just ask because i hear that was a way of use overdrive with 2x6 pin .

i always used atitool to OC my ATI´s cards ,(now AMDTOOL) but the overdrive is cool to see the Temps and i want to compare temps with AMDTOOL VS Overdrive , just that .

CCC never had Fan Speed Option but i cant find any software with FAN Speed option that work with X2900 (Atitool doesnt work , rivatuner and ATItraytools neither :shrug: )

thnks anyway guys


regards

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so the rest 2 pins left only just a ground?

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Yes and only the one nearest the board edge needs to be shorted to the common.

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http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...7890/13332.jpg
i got a 400 point increase from going for cd drivers to the ones on amd's website

also here is 05 score

cpu @ 4.4g

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...67890/VM05.jpg

one more thing is 06 i can pass sm3 tests @ 880/1080 but the 2nd sm2 test crashes :( also that was not max on 05 just started

also i modified the heat sink which gave no increase in scores or o/c

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5...0/IMG_7690.jpg

2 big fans stuck on :) just droped the temps about 20c load and about 25 idle

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I bought a his 2900xt and it must come tommorow or thrusday.After i saw the noise that i already know from my X850pro factory fan i already begin to think how to modify the Arctic cooling Ati Silencerv5 to put it on 2900xt without removing the cooper spreaders and the plate on the back but momo gived me a better idea.I can't understand one thing about both nvidia and ati why they don't put BIG fans like arctic cooling produce because bigger fans and blades = reduce noise signifianly..Little blades and little fans like the one used in cooling NB on mainboards are so sucky..I have a bad experience with the one on my MSI K8n Neo2 Plat that is noiser than the whole system..
Momo i want to how you made the connection between fans and the PCB..Did you throw the cable ties in the pcb holes? Can you put more pics? How is the noise for those two fans? Is there any db rating writen on them ?
I look at AC case fans for that alternate cooling solution and those are rated at 25db so the sound is very nice..With two fans it will be awesome card with o/c and silent like an Ati silencer.. EXcellent.

Thank you.

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for the 3DMark boot up issue:
rename/remove the file called "direcpll.dll" from windows\system32\Futuremark\MSC -folder (WinXP, under Vista this file is in a different folder, use search to locate it)

other option is to use "-nosysteminfo" switch in the 3DMark shortcut, but then you wont be able to send results to ORB

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Thank a lot macci, I can run and has score for AQUAMARK now ;)