ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

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Originally Posted by cstkl1

zuck
just forget him...
he doesnt get that most ppl when they quote things in XS is from experience with the boards.this reminds of lowyat forum.ppl giving statements with boards that they themselves never tried.
and if they did. its right of others to question them.u cant fault that...right crypt??

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and u cant fault anyone on their opinions either but its also good to point out to ppl thats its a opinion based on screenies rather than first hand experience which he already did.
y he asked u that cause afaik most opinions in XS is based on first hand experience. also wondering now did u even try the RE kekeke


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and the reason y i think the current situation is such
a lot of forumers here before we claim certain boards capabilities and recommendation
we have tried it the boards to support the statements we have made. this makes some sort of accountability on what we say and recommend.
its what seperates XS from a lot of chit chat overclocking forums out there. The amount everybody learns from contributions etc is not from opinions but rather than personal experience.

u wont find me now claiming d9gts works wonders with RE until i have personally tested it myselfs of a few rams.

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I have used the RF, the RE (very briefly) and the T2RSB Plus. I have helped my mates set up their systems using the boards, but have not had what I would call 'overclocking experience' using them, as the guys I helped are pure gamers, and only wanted mild overclocks.

I thought it was pretty obvious from how I phrased what I was saying regarding the RF & T2RSB Plus was mostly based on what I had read, not what I had personally experienced. I would have said it totally differently if I was basing my opinion of the board off personal experience, and most likely provided examples of my max clocks etc. I was using phrases like "seems to" "appears to" and "may be due to" describing the apparent limitations I have read about. I would have been much more definitive if I had personally experienced it.

I have a problem with the fact Zucker2K was refusing to accept my personal opinion as valid as I had not personally had much experience with pushing the boards we were discussing to the limit. I have an opinion based on what I have read, and the brief personal experience I have had with the boards. He has based opinions on results he has seen himself, then criticizes me for doing exactly the same thing. His reaction was over the top, and he was hell bent on proving that the RF was the best DDR2 X48 board, in the M2F thread no less.

He was simply aggressive and arrogant. He was rude, and made false accusations. I'm not going to sit back and take that. Perhaps he was drunk or something, but that's no excuse for that kind of behaviour.

EDIT - for anyone reading this - search his user name and look at his posts. He has got to be one of the most aggressive, argumentative, hypocritical users on this site.

I have planned to let this board go on air for a while now but need to know if TRUE fit vertical (push/pull) or not? Actually TRU-black!!
If not, what other great heatsink fit?

Thanks in advance!

Those setting below are 2h Small FTP P95 stable but mostl core 0 and core 3 will fail blend test or linpack affter 2minutes.

Ram is memtest86 2.1 stable for about 6 passes.

If RAM and GTL set to auto in BIOS same thing with Blend test as above.

This template was found here not real adjusting done yet. Probably such fast blend failing and few hours small ftt stable is indication of something obvious - unfortunately not for me :)?

Also when we are talking about safe vcore do we mean reading from CpuZ or setting in bios?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53975
FSBT : 1.259
DRAM Voltage : 2.012
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35175
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Some screenie is coming.

http://images40.fotosik.pl/38/2b1ab9ed7420d03f.jpg

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Originally Posted by Vega

I have planned to let this board go on air for a while now but need to know if TRUE fit vertical (push/pull) or not? Actually TRU-black!!
If not, what other great heatsink fit?

Thanks in advance!

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Hi,

True black with two fans work both directions with no problem.

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Originally Posted by seban

Those setting below are 2h Small FTP P95 stable but mostl core 0 and core 3 will fail blend test or linpack affter 2minutes.

Ram is memtest86 2.1 stable for about 6 passes.

Also setting ram to auto is same thing aswell as GTL.

This template I found here not real adjusting done. Probably such fast blend failing and few hours small ftt stable is indication of something obvious - unfortunately not for me :)?

Also when we are talking about safe vcore do we mean reading from CpuZ or setting in bios?



Some screenie is coming.

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Most ppl are referring to cpuz or everest not whats set in bios.

I think your stability problem can be corrected with your glts...
If you get off of 1:1 ram your bandwidth will improve, those Corsairs should do 1140MHz easy
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/1140.png

Gentlemen,
This thread is going waaaaay off base. All of you have your strengths and opinions and we should appreciate and acknowledge both. We are supposed to be friends helping friends, not get into pissing matches. I have learned a lot from each of you and I DO appreciate your knowledge and the fact that each of you take the time to help others.

So please let's get back on topic and put our anger towards the Asus Bios engineers that have apparently left us hanging with a three hundred US dollar board and a five dollar bios. :)

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Originally Posted by SiGfever

Gentlemen,
This thread is going waaaaay off base. All of you have your strengths and opinions and we should appreciate and acknowledge both. We are supposed to be friends helping friends, not get into pissing matches. I have learned a lot from each of you and I DO appreciate your knowledge and the fact that each of you take the time to help others.

So please let's get back on topic and put our anger towards the Asus Bios engineers that have apparently left us hanging with a three hundred US dollar board and a five dollar bios. :)

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Well said :up:

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Most ppl are referring to cpuz or everest not whats set in bios.

I think your stability problem can be corrected with your glts...
If you get off of 1:1 ram your bandwidth will improve, those Corsairs should do 1140MHz easy
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/1140.png

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Any suggested setting to start from for 11xxmhz for Dominator?

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Originally Posted by seban

Any suggested setting to start from for 11xxmhz for Dominator?

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- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140

CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

You might have to up vNB

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140

CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

You might have to up vNB

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Thanks will test them now

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- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140

CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

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Hey, thanks for that post Grnfinger. I myself will be getting a 2x2 1066 Dominator kit soon. But I'll be running my Q9650 at 430x9 for 24/7. I hope I could still run it without problems with using my 400x9 settings.

Just a quick question.

So I experienced the infamous bug of vNb>vtt+X.

And the question if I undesrstand correctly from manual I can reset CMOS in 3 ways.

With all cables unpluged, with power cable pluged and electricty runnig throu it and finnally with PC running :O ??

Am I correct or did I mixed it up. And which way is the best/safest or there is no difference?

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Originally Posted by seban

Just a quick question.

So I experienced the infamous bug of vNb>vtt+X.

And the question if I undesrstand correctly from manual I can reset CMOS in 3 ways.

With all cables unpluged, with power cable pluged and electricty runnig throu it and finnally with PC running :O ??

Am I correct or did I mixed it up. And which way is the best/safest or there is no difference?

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Once the bios loads, you could actually remove the bios chip if you wanted to, if it wasnt solderd in.
I preffer to power down and clear cmos, there is no need to unplug the psu from the wall.

just turn of your pc and turn of the power on your psu...and then push the clearcmos-button;)
Edit: Dr.Greenthumb was before me:D

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Originally Posted by seban

Just a quick question.

So I experienced the infamous bug of vNb>vtt+X.

And the question if I undesrstand correctly from manual I can reset CMOS in 3 ways.

With all cables unpluged, with power cable pluged and electricty runnig throu it and finnally with PC running :O ??

Am I correct or did I mixed it up. And which way is the best/safest or there is no difference?

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well best reset is power off ure computer with ure casing/mobo off button
shutdown ure psu
and press star/on button for a quick release of all the current left
and then start ure psu and press on...

started with all the p45 and RE.
but geee shorten a lot of headaches with the RE from what i learned from m2f..
so cpu voltages is out of the equation..
yeah would love a new bios for m2f

aka this is better than the clear cmos..
heck havent had to a clear cmos for a long time kekeke..
this will force the bios to default value while keeping ure previous clocks setting intact.

also its written in the manual
as this is the way to do it..
suppose to be some chipset limitation for overclocking failure recovery.
remembered reading that when was testing the p5qdeluxe and p5q3 test samples before the m2f came out

Someone mind posting up the best RAM settings in the BIOS for maximum RAM stability? Tweaks on auto or disabled? Twister auto or lighter? I've gotten to the point where all I want is a stable CPU overclock, the RAM bandwidth has been shelved if you will.

Thanks

333 fsb strap
500 fsb
8 multi
1000 mem
1.35-1.45 NB
1.2 VTT/FSB v
1.54 PLL v
Perf Level 8

Is this a good starting point for 4gz and 500fsb with my setup (in signature)? Any opinions/ideas?

Thanks

if your using the 1:1 divider (1000)mem youll need to use pl10

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Originally Posted by radaja

if your using the 1:1 divider (1000)mem youll need to use pl10

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lol, I was going to ad that it wont boot below pl10. so your correct sir... thx

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333mhz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1002MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53975
FSB Term : 1.209
DRAM Voltage : 1.8
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35175
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

Load Line Calibration : Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Everything else unchanged from defaults.

Fails to load bios and fails to boot. What am I doing wrong here?

i really hope i get my maximusII back from RMA by friday.and im praying that they send me a NEW one ,thats not warped in any way.very flat. i really hate flying blind when it comes to temperatures.

After 3 weeks of testing I gave up for 8x565 . This is for now I will wait for new BIOS.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8...x445eu3.th.jpg

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Originally Posted by radaja

i really hope i get my maximusII back from RMA by friday.and im praying that they send me a NEW one ,thats not warped in any way.very flat. i really hate flying blind when it comes to temperatures.

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M8 I got two MF2 ATM in house and both are warped as hell. The new one which I bought because first one was warped is even more warped :/.

As I discovered they are both straight, it is heat pipe in Power area that warp them.

I am sending today one back.

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Originally Posted by SkOrPn

lol, I was going to ad that it wont boot below pl10. so your correct sir... thx

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333mhz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1002MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53975
FSB Term : 1.209
DRAM Voltage : 1.8
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35175
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

Load Line Calibration : Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Everything else unchanged from defaults.

Fails to load bios and fails to boot. What am I doing wrong here?

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Try to change your Ram voltage to 1.9..

Also set a value for your cpu voltage.

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You have 2 more options

Try for 7.5*533 Rams 1066 1:1 PL10 ..you wil get ~9600K Read

Or 9*455 Rams 1140 (mine 1100 PI have done 11h dual prime at 570 with 2-2.05V)

Attachment 90398

yea seban,seame boat as you two boards both warped. on my first one it was warped where the i/o sheild was and i think it was the heat pipe assembly was the culprit too. thats why im hoping to get a straight and flat one for my third board. cause i know they exist.few people here on this forum have said theirs were as flat as a board.good luck on your replacement M8.

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Originally Posted by Nevin

After 3 weeks of testing I gave up for 8x565 . This is for now I will wait for new BIOS.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8...x445eu3.th.jpg

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u know .. i found out the issue.. but not really solved it with clocking the re to get the gtl somewhat stable for 563 fsb

this is what i had to do for RE
cpu skew 200
nb skew normal

cmd channel a del 75
clk channel A1/A2 Del 100
clt channel A1/A2 del 100

cmd channel b del 100
clk channel a1/a2 del 100
clt channel a1/a2 del 75

vtt - 1.29
cpu 0 gtl+40

dont have any more m2f to test and now concentrating on re and re2.
but try the above on wherever options u can
the cpu skew 200
and nb skew normal was the important part to get the vtt stable.
infact actually with it can even bench at vtt 1.12v
so far with ibt i am down to two different residuals at the moment..
still wondering why its always those two only. 3.***002, 1.9***007
will try to get another m2f for christmas..

Wow!! Ya ain't lucky m8, both warped ?? Mine was flat as a marble ;) washers 'n new thermal paste maked me lose 10° on the NB
At yur opinion, don't you feel there's a real problem with the assembling of this board ?? Is there a worst mobo in terms of production quality ? (joke...or note !!)

At least : WHERE IS MY BIOS ???!!!!! WHERE IS MY MF BIOS ???!!!!! WHERE IS MY MFOB BIOS ???!!!!!

Raaah!! Guess they would give up their X58 bioses a moment for our ??? (...just for ram increase, please... :( )