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I only know some 24" PVA/MVA panels suffer from input lag.
Benq has the best 24" when it comes to reducing inputlag, Dell 2407 and samsung 245T are horrible, thats what i read on the forums.
Also the LG and Acer are good 24" models, the input lag is not so hard as the samsung and Dell
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Originally Posted by Soulburner
i've got a FHD2400, 2 days old. It's a TN. So far this is my only complaint - lack of details in dark scenes... haven't tested it in games much, but played 300 blu-ray via my ps3 over hdmi.. and dark scenes seem to lack detail - too much black.
so far no luck trying to adjust it. no setting seem to yield any better black details.. and gamma seems to do nothing to the picture at all.
might have to return this :(
will test more with some games soon as my 8800GT gets here.
are there any 22" widescreen monitors with height adjustment that anyone knows of? i haven't been able to find one. do they not exist?
95% sure that Dells 22" does :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jasyn
EDIT: Sorry, I presumed that it also had height adjustability knowing the 2407 does
However... I definately know that this monitor supports height adjustment
the E228WFP? if so then noQuote:
Originally Posted by .Logic
All LCD monitor suffer from imput lag, even the ones with S-IPS, it-s a different technology, you can adapt to it, but you can't compare it with CRT. The only solution to input lag is "SED" - which is actually a thin CRT. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by 187(V)URD@
What do you suggest for a gaming monitor (20"-22") at a price range of 500$-800$ ?
HP W2207 It's about 340$ right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatal Error
I don't suppose you have any insight as to how this monitor stacks up agains the BenQ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diverge
Fatal... if you looking for a gaming monitor around 500... might want to check out masterrebates. Acer makes some decent stuff with alright refresh rates if you dont want to spend much (under 300). The only issues ive seen with the Acers are the light/dark contrasts.
Not all panels have input lag, I know an Iiyama ProLite E2201W that doesn't have any input lag.Quote:
Originally Posted by XSAlliN
This has been bothering me but how will I be able to find out panel type besides forums? Is there a website that has a list of LCD model and panel type or what?
anandtech.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
tft central id's the panel types by brand/model no. with "panel search"
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
for example:
LTM220M2 has 92% color gamut; a samsung "BTNIII" panelQuote:
Iiyama E2201W 2ms G2G 22"WS Samsung TN Film (LTM220M2)
TN panels are 6-bit and could not possibly display that many colors without dithering...
Just orderd an lg L226WTQ-pf. 22" widescreen with 5000:1 contrast.:)
Dynamic contrast, sure. But what's the real contrast ratio? 1000:1? 800:1?
so what do you guys think of the new Benq G2400W? Pretty sweet for that price. In europe its around €400.
Well for the price its good, if you have worked with a TN panel before you will know what to expect. Most laptops use TN panels though due to their much lower power requirements compared to MVA, PVA or IPS and they aren't that bad.
Yeah TN's are not that bad considering how cheap the panels are.. but kudos to more and more people buying those higher end panels, you guys might be ablet o make those panels drop to TN prices in the future ;)
what would be the best 8bit panel for gaming and photo/video editing? Trying to stay around $500...
what would be the best 22" monitor for gaming/movies?
in my opinion it would be ViewSonic VX2255wmb (around U$D 350 in US), or VG2230wmQuote:
Originally Posted by lazy
or with a lower price Samsung 226BW
if you have more money you should check a monitor from brands like NEC or EIZO
then in Dell there are good monitors like 2007FP (this isn't wide) or 2007 WFP but they are both 20 inches... and Dell 2407 WFP HC is not recomended for games.. backlight in squares... and Dell said they are not going to solve this with a posterior revision
hOW ABOUT THE Dell 27"?
So, what is the best 24" LCD on the market right now?
I know the resolutions arn't going to be massive but i was wondering if anyone had tried a LCD Tv and what the results were like, the idea sprang into my head because i'm moving house soon and thought a new room could do with a new monitor and while im at it why not have TV as well. Probably be a 720p model as the 1080's are a little pricey for me just now. Any recommendations on that front ??
Is there a reason why you want a larger screen with a lower resolution? That equates to a further viewing distance.
dell 2208wfp is height adjustable (although sp2208wfp isnt)Quote:
Originally Posted by jasyn
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height adjustability (130mm up or down), swivel (45° left and right) and tilt (4° forward and 21° backward).
I would say the Benq.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Logic
i presume your talking to me if not im sorry, the reason being that i can sit in a nice place and not have to bother with a separate TV. I can just bang between the two and im not that bothered about massive resolution i would just prefer something i can see, especially while watching downloaded High Def content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
...well it's great for video (larger full hd tv ie)
i've thought about it but i have the hd video panel in another room from the computer at my house....whatever suits your particular desires isnt it...
so..it's like a htpc/games console/pc...
viewing distance i suppose is proportional to screen size :hehe: just need to adjust text size to suit.
Contrast has very little to do with sharpness. Rather, contrast ratio affects the vivacity of the image. More specifically, it describes the difference in luminosity between white and black. If this is low, then the image will look washed out.Quote:
Contrast Ratio: Light intensity between black and white. Higher contrast ratios = sharper image
A contrast ratio is measured by measuring the luminence (light intensity) in foot-lamberts (fL) of white and of black. The lumenince of white divided by the lumenince of black equals the contrast ratio. For instance, a white level of 30 fL and a black level of 0.05 fL yields an on/off contrast ratio of 600:1, which is relatively poor. For comparison, CRT monitors technically have an on/off contrast ratio of infinity since the black level is absolutely 0 fL.
what is DELL E248WFP good for?
Gaming?
Photoshop?
seems nice to get...I can forgo a few USB over the DELL UltraSharp 2407WFP-HC due to cost.
I'm looking for a good LCD from 20' to 22'. Unfortunately, here in Argentina the best brand we can get is Dell (e.g.: forget about NEC... maybe some Acers or Viewsonics), so I would like to know what model is the best to buy. I’ve read some reviews, but I want to listen to the opinions of enthusiasts (gaming, graphic design, etc).
Tnx!
I been looking around and sort of sick and tired lol, does anyone know the best 24" monitor for $500?
aznsniper911 for gaming the two best with low input lag are samsung 245bw and the Benq G2400.
I would buy the Benq myself if I could find it locally so I could see it.
So far all I have seen are review pics.
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I have 3 lcd's at home and 7 dells at work and all but two have one thing in common. Desktop whites are more grey.
The 2 that are W H I T E are a hyundai and a dell 207wfp
I will never buy another monitor that looks like this.
Sounds like a calibration issue to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks
Nice faq :D
What's the advantage of having an HDMI port on an LCD monitor? Isn't the image quality identical to DVI?
For other devices such as game consoles.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoX
I need help here im using a dvi to hdmi which should i use
for the dvi part dvi-d single dvi-d dual whats the differnce
Single is good up to 1920x1200, dual is needed for anything higher.
guys im new here, what you think about the hanns-g 28" ?
and btw guys, i read here that benQ's 24'' are nice, is this the benQ T241w 24" ? thanks in advance
Anybody have this chart? I'm not sure how updated it is.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/238/monlistfv1.png
http://axofiber.no-ip.org/inside/mon....panels.en.htm
Looks fairly recent to me, but all that tells you are rated specs from the manufacturer. It tells you nothing about the monitor in real use.
http://www.shopbot.com.au/au-new-id-90.html
"coming soon" monitors; i think some are already here, but others arent (also is an aussie website, so we a bit behind the modern world:D)
Thanks for the explanation. I'm still confused though: is a PSU the same as a Power Adapter? I bought an adapter already at 12vadapters.com. Can someone explain the difference between a PSU and a Power Adapter? I lost my adapter, and am confused whether a PSU is the same thing? Both terms came up when I searched power adapters, so I just bought one.
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Last updated: March 20th 2008
Welcome to The LCD Buyer’s Guide. The purpose of this thread is to aid those who are planning on purchasing an LCD monitor in the near future to make the smartest purchasing decision, as well as to inform readers about some of the main characteristics of this technology. This thread will attempt to accommodate the needs of serious gamers, video enthusiasts, digital artists, regular application users, as well as users just looking for simple display to just surf the net or benchmark ;). Additionally, if you find any mistakes in this thread or a collection of grammatical errors, PM me and I’ll see of I can make these changes whenever I have time. I would greatly appreciate it.
Im building a new rig this year (well overdue), and im wondering what widescreen lcd to go for?....im after one with 1920x1200 rez, with a screen bigger than 24in, smaller than 30in. My limit is £600.
Ill be using it for movies, games and general pc stuff.
Im in no pannick to buy.so im also wondering about models coming out this year?..........cheers.
I am looking for a new lcd to upgrade from my current 17 inch samsung. I bought this one about 3 years ago without much research, and well it hasnt been bad, i'm sure i could have done better. I do a lot of gaming (World of Warcraft, Audiosurf, TF2, CSS), and of course browsing the web watching online content or downloading WoW videos (WoW is my current game i play the most). I don't do a lot of viewing of DVDs.
My budget is around 200-300 dollars, so i can't be spending that much unfortunately. I have been looking at Samsung recently (906bw and 216BW, i believe), as i had a good experience with my current monitor.
My system is an Athlon 64 x2 4200 oced to 2.4 (just a little bit), x1950 xt video card, 2 gigs of OCZ ram. Any other specs you might need, please just ask. I'm on forums a lot during slow days at work. :p
I was just looking for some recommendations of samsung, or any other brands in the 19-21 inch area under 300 dollars. Obviously you can't always rely on the specs the company puts out. Any real world anecdotes would be helpful.
Thank you for your time :)
hey dude what monitor are u going forQuote:
Originally Posted by drjunk
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I would get this one in that price range. Lot's of people seem to be happy with them.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824254026
Which one would you guys choose out of these?
Samsung 245T
HP W2408
LG L245WP
Dell 2407WFP-HC
Acer P243W
Thanks
Ive not decided yet. Might just wait till nov-dec time and see whats available then. Hopefully there will be more 27",28" models to choose from.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironhide007
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Sorry....no comprendi
Hello, Any of you out there tried the Lenovo Thinkvision L220X it seems to be the best monitor for my situation; best color quality and still being responsive enough to game. Also it has 1920 x 1200 on a 22" display, talk about a screen reducing jaggies!
Link: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/c...3EAE93B7B4AEF6
Hi lads.
Im not sure where i shut ask about that.
Is any dereference which scaling i use flat panel or graphic card?
I mean in games?
My opinion it shut by better graphic card because delay.
Tks for opinions and sorry for my English.
just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for the guide
i think i remember 32ms input lag...which may be acceptable..:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by serialkilla277
http://techgage.com/article/lenovo_l..._lcd_monitor/4
- although this one says 9 ms. different source.
vs 2007wfp, rather than the usual vs crt input lag test, i think.Quote:
The input lag test between the L220X and Dell 2007WFP revealed that the monitor had a lag of 9 milliseconds
i hope we see more high res lcds in 'smaller' size such as have been available in laptops for some time.
perhaps a 2560 x 1600 at 24"?:p:
Anybody can share his experiences with Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP? I heard there is a lot of problem with it, but the screen looks simply gorgeous. I need some inputs!
Thanks
I recently purchased a MK241H Asus LCD. What is everyones opinion on the light leak? (The red dot on the screen isn't a dead pixel, it is my camera)
http://users.on.net/~zrodman/photo/screen.JPG
Hmmmm... who makes the best gaming LCDs? Just curious... I'll probably never get one. I think I'm going to use a Television for both TV, movies, and my computer, for my next build. :)
[QUOTE=adamsleath;3159231]i hope we see more high res lcds in 'smaller' size such as have been available in laptops for some time.
perhaps a 2560 x 1600 at 24"?:p:[/QUOTE]
do you really want a 2560x1600@24inches you would need your face 5 inches from the screen to see the extra detail,i think that is just a waist i know this is xs but i dont think the human eyes are that good
also are there really any problems with todays 30" monitors i have a dell 2407 and i have no problems with it what so ever
This is what I'm looking into getting, do to size limitations 22" is about all that will fit. Too bad there are not alot of reviews on it about gaming. Anyone have any experience with one?Quote:
Originally Posted by serialkilla277
I was looking this monitor: http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna...977&sku=142648 to replace my current 30" apple cinema display.. is that dell good choice?
ive heard he 3007 is better than 3008, but they may have revised the 3008.
i like small dots :)Quote:
do you really want a 2560x1600@24inches you would need your face 5 inches from the screen to see the extra detail,i think that is just a waist i know this is xs but i dont think the human eyes are that good
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=8153
BenQ T2200HD 21.5in Widescreen LCD Monitor
...yet another lcd thought :p:
this is a 16:9 22" ish inch benq...what interests me is that it is 1080p (1920x1080)
any thoughts? i guess i'll try to find some more info..
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BenQ E2200HD 2ms G2G 21.5"WS AU Optronics TN Film (M215HW01 V0)
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
What do you guys thinking of the acer G24? Fast respond time with great contrast ratio(50000:1!!). Seems to be aimed at gamers.
Its not that expensive on ncix.com (399$).
I don't think I'd want a 16:9 screen for PC use - too narrow.
Hi, I'm looking for help selecting a 30" monitor 2560 x 1600. I have been leaning toward the dell 3008wfp. I would like a variety of inputs including HDMI. Any thoughts on the dell, or other 30" monitors?
Thanks
I'm looking for help with a 22'', i have a 20'' now so i just want to know if there are any 22'' monitors with 75hz refresh rates? Good PQ obviously, but it's not worth the jump if i can't get higher FPS with v-sync.:confused:
It is my understanding that 75hz only works at non-native resolutions and on some panels only. LCD's run at their native resolution run at 60Hz standard.
If you can pull that off on your current monitor, I wouldn't switch.
Took a gamble and bought this thing. I'll pick it up tomorrow and hope the res on a 22 won't make me cry.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
Well going from a 20" with a pixel pitch which is smaller than most, I still notice how much smaller stuff is. Not that it really bothers me much because I like to sit close to my monitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO
Loving this 21.5"
:eek:
can you increase text size...?
any other thoughts? personally i have really liked the high res smaller screens ive seen on laptops...which is why i found this appealing....not to mention it is cheap.
where did you buy it from momo?
I wouldn't worry about it guys. We have a 1920x1200 17" laptop :)
Just increase the DPI setting in display properties.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
I am looking to get an LCD for work. I work mainly with Excel and other Office family software. Basically, I read a lot of text.
My monitor of choice would be one that has a matte screen (finally figured out what was giving me migraines every day for the last month or so.. damned gloss screen!), high contrast and high brightness. Other fine tuning options would be really appreciated as well. Though I will be using it at work, I would still prefer that its power consumption is as low as possible. I also realize that I do not need insanely fast response times, though I am guessing that they wouldn't hurt when I am scrolling through large Adobe Acrobat Reader files. My size range is going to be somewhere around 22-24".. though I am willing to consider other sizes. What other things should I look for in a display if its only use will be with e-mail and basic word processing tasks? As I mentioned above, I had pretty bad eye problems... due to my little 15.1" glossy cheapo laptop that my company got me. I'd rather invest a few hundred dollars today than a few thousand down the road to fix what are now perfect eyes.
Any pointers as to where to look, how to compare, and any suggestions on monitors that people are currently using for the above mentioned types of work.
[edit]
I forgot to say a couple things. First off, I am looking at a couple monitors right now. Any input on whether they would be a good fit would be really appreciated.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...9&sku=320-5205 [E228WFP]
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...7-3758498.html [L2245wg]
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...7-3648453.html [LP2275w]
Samsung 2220WM-HAS
Please let me know if there are any other technologies that I should be looking out for. Screen types, etc....
I just saw one monitor that can be swiveled 90degrees to allow for a full screen A4 document to be read, page at a time. THAT is cool to me.
My T61p is 1920x1200 on a 15.4" screen - and it actually hurts to read it after a while. Explains why all the newer models are back to down WSXGA+...Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulburner
For Photoshop work its a must-have, and you can't watch 1080p video without a 1920x screen.
I'm thinking of getting a new monitor soon and was wondering if hannsg was any good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824254035 the monitor in question, thanks in advance.
I'm not having any luck tracking down a good 2560x1600 LCD.. suggestions?
That depends on how you define the word good and what kind of features you need from the 30"
If you don't need to hook it up to anything except a computer I'd say pick one without a scaler. Spares you from the extra +30ms of input lag.
yes, that is what I meant by a good one.. no scalar.
Dell's 3007 has no scaler (3008 does) but is $1600.. a Samsung 305T can be had for $1000 but has a scaler...
I could pick up a Sony 40" TV with 10-bit color for $1000 let alone all the other features the $1600 dell doesnt have...
wot about a big hd plasma? :hehe:
lcd thread...but im starting to look at plasmas because of the contrast, and they seems to handle motion better than lcd's
:shrug:
is there still a burning out problem with plasma's? stigma??? true /false?
someone should start a database of LCD's with and without input lag..
I don't know about prices where you live but here the HP LP3065 was the cheapest of them all, it has the exact same panel as the 3007wfp-HC. I got mine very cheap and no dead pixels :)
You should also check out the LG W3000H (LG is the manufacturer of all 30" IPS panels), it has the rev 5 panel same as Dell 3008 but without the scaler, seems you can get it pretty cheap.
this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824005115 :)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xcel
There is one, Although I don't know the site anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Yup that one has the same panel as the Dell 3008 but without a scaler. Seems pretty good but I haven't really seen any reviews of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=2049206Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Awesome, NCIX and Futureshop both carry the LG at $1299.99 so you can pricematch them ;)
What would you guys consider to be the ultimate LCD screen out there? If money was of no concern.
Midget Mariachi http://photo-shack.com/img/c930eecd0...cc445f708f.gif
Maybe the Nec 30", Eizo 30" or Samsung XL30 30"Quote:
Originally Posted by MidgetMariachi
What do you guys think of the Sceptre 24" Widescreen LCD for $199? Black Friday special. The price is welcoming, I think its this this.
A little feedback on the Vizio VMM266 26" 1920x1200 that they're blowing out at Costco- this thing sucks, backlight bleed is insanely bad and there's obvious refresh scanning (I don't know the technical term, but I'm seeing sweeping from the bottom to the top of the display) when Vsync is turned off. In short, this thing blows - but for $350 it makes a fantastic office display, just don't try to play high FPS games on it.
I am searching for an input lag glossary if anyone knows of any... http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...ead=y#26495193
I was using this and bought the 24 inch benq but I was also looking for a more comprehensive list.
Which one is better for gaming?
Acer Ferrrari F-22
Or
Asus VH22H
I just picked up an Asus VW266H. Super-nice. Awesome Oblivion and Fallout3 gaming at 1920 x 1200.