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Welcome Stijndp has definitely pointed you in the right direction, we're very glad to have you! :welcome:
Thanks~ Do I install both instances as services, or one GUI client and one console client?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stijndp
Thanks :D :DQuote:
Welcome Stijndp has definitely pointed you in the right direction, we're very glad to have you!
Thanks~ Do I install both instances as services, or one GUI client and one console client?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stijndp
Thanks :D :DQuote:
Welcome Stijndp has definitely pointed you in the right direction, we're very glad to have you!
EDIT: Nevermind I got it. I was wondering which one is more efficient, running two consoles or a single SMP.
SMP.
BTW, welcome to the team!
I've installed the SMP client and have it running...but the last line reads "Completed 0 out of 500000 steps <0 percent>" and it's been like that for 40 minutes :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by twiggy
If I <ctrl+c> then restart it, the number goes to 1351 out of 500000. Is the log just not updating or what?
And how do I quit without messing anything up. Total newby...sorry:p:
Thanks
What CPU you running the SMP client on? Do you have any other DC project running?
describe your computer for us and recall it takes up to 40 minutes a frame on slower dual cores...
Athlon X2 Be2300 1.8 ghz, 6600GT, 2gb pc6400Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
I just realized it's not fast enough for smp :ROTF: ......:(
And I can't get two console versions to run at start up, I can only find the -svcstart in the registry for the first console, the second one won't appear even though I have it installed and configured. I'm currently just using one GUI client until I get the two consoles or smp running properly.
Any suggestions on how I can get them running properly? :confused:
Yep it's fast enough for SMP, it will beat the deadlines by about a day no problem
So it is fast enough?
Should I just run the smp even though the log isn't updating? It's yellow on fahmon...so that makes the think that it isn't working :shrug:
EDIT: It got to 1%...so there is progress :D
Thanks for the help guys~
It will stay yellow until it gets two sections done and then make a calculation of how long it will take to finish. Ignore that estimate altogether until it has two or three complete WU's to average together... expect your PC to take about 52 hrs per WU around 800 points per day production.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
Yay~ It's green now :]
If I pause and quite F@H to restart, would it continue where it left off?
And can I run it on two different machines using the same user name?
It will continue from the last checkpoint when you restart if you have the flags set the way the SMP as a service guide dictates then checkpoints are set every 15 minutes by default (though I set mine at three).Quote:
Originally Posted by LemniaAlsa
And Yes! use exactly the same user name on a different machine (and team name of course) :wtf:
Sweet, my high school yearbook room has 16 Core2Extreme computers...and 3 more on the way, I'll see if I can get the instructor to let me use them [[high possibility of a yes...he likes me :up: ]]Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
And I was just curious...what's stopping people from stealing someone else's user name? I mean...couldn't I just use your name in the configuration menu and pretend to be you and claim that your work was mine?
well, if you put in my user name, the points would appear in my stats :lol:
There's nothing to steal, it's all for the good of the science and with that many machines, maybe you could form a small team of your own at your school?
I usually run WCG but I swapped some rigs over to help out for a few days...
Nah, I'm going to stay with this team so I can help contribute something back. I've learned so much from these forums...I've been lurking for a very long time and just started posting recently :p: . I feel like I owe it you guys...well not so much owe...but rather I want to contribute to something that has helped me learn so much:up:
Hey Road-Runner thanks for helping us out, we're really barging down the top of the stats right now so the help is most appreciated :welcome: and thanks!
Lemnia: well we're glad you joined, so stick around and have some fun .... Futuremark is our upcoming friendly rival
Welcome to the team, just joined up last month myself for the exact same reasons as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LemniaAlsa
So let's get crunching and take Futuremark down a peg or two!
I see that, I am glad to help push the team through a few ranks....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
I have two dual core boxes folding, and a quad core will follow pretty soon. The q6600 box has an 8800 g80 so should I use F@H SMP or GPU?
You guys at XS are so friendly :D I just thought I should restate a probably known fact :up:
Most excellent. Everytime I see your Av the Road Runner theme song plays in my brain... arghhhhhh. Like it though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by road-runner
Folding @GPU is closer for new ATI cards than for NVIDIA at the moment. They are working on it, but there are only so many programming cycles. The Stanford forums are pretty good for giving us updates, you can check there for the most recent news.Quote:
Originally Posted by LemniaAlsa
:toast:
UnG
Well... I've now two more or less dedicated folders with G80 and G92, but not planning to fold with those as smp-client is mighty powerfull and gpu-client hogs one core.Quote:
Originally Posted by LemniaAlsa
Really nice thing to say... actually first one I see posted here :cool: :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by LemniaAlsa
I hope you guys don't mind, since I haven't been a member here that long, but I put the team number in on my PS3 last night. My wife and I both have a long family history of cancer, and would like to contribute to a great cause.
:welcome: Time being a registered user does not matter! Glad to have you with us :up:
a) Of course we don't mind! Welcome to the team and get yourself a stats sig :).
b) my complements on your username and avatar.
Thanks for joining us, we appreciate the contribution to the cause overall and to out little team in particular. :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
tech sites tend to be territorial, so I didn't want to step on any toes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Anyone who knows of TOOL is cool by me :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by angra
I'll get an avatar up there asap.
Your appreciation is much appreciated :yepp: Hopefully I can help XS push out FM. You guys are so nice, I'm going to add my oc gaming rig to the fold. It spends allot of time idle so it should pump out some decent numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
No toes to step on here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
An idle PC is an unhappy PC, IMO :D Time to get it crunching too :cool:Quote:
Your appreciation is much appreciated :yepp: Hopefully I can help XS push out FM. You guys are so nice, I'm going to add my oc gaming rig to the fold. It spends allot of time idle so it should pump out some decent numbers.
No egos here my friend:yepp: What is TOOL and the reverandmaynard?Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Regards
John.
TOOL is one of the last great progressive rock bands of our time. They do some amazing things with music and always keep their fans thinking. The Lateralus album was built on the fibonacci sequence. Here is a great youtube video that puts the complexity of how music and numbers are one, into perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by pythagoras
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS7CZIJVxFY
The name comes from the hidden song call Disgustipated from the album Undertow. The singers name is Maynard James Keenan, but in the song he's preaching to a million carrots who are at the brink of a vegetable genocide lead by rabbits with poor eyesight. He refers too himself as ReverendMaynard.
:eek: :eek: :eek: Thanks, my students will love that:up: You dont happen to play guitar hero III on that ps3 when its not folding do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Regards
John.
haha, actually I have GH3 on the PC, the PS3 is stictly for BR and Folding.Quote:
Originally Posted by pythagoras
On topic, I am having trouble with F@H on my pc. I just downloaded the lastest version, and it doesn't seem to be progressing at all.
I'm using Vista 32, and the rig in the sig. If anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it.
Post a cop of the log file and I'll take a look, what client are you using? SMP?Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Regards
John.
Edit: just BR or do you have a hd dvd machine too? OT is mandatory here ;)
Which version is it exactly? If it is the new V6 beta, well, I have no experience with that but I've heard it has issues.
The one I'd recommend is the Windows 2000/XP/Vista SMP client console version 5.91 beta6 (about halfway down the page). You'll need a password on the PC.
Here is a good guide to making the SMP client run as a service, so you don't have the window button on your taskbar all the time:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=174390
I don't use it since the network here at school can be unstable enough I want to keep track of what it is doing.
no HD-DVD. I'm working for a company that is putting a huge nail in the coffin for HD-DVD so I wasn't about to invest in another "Beta" player lol. Remember those? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pythagoras
Nice, that worked out perfectly. Now, what core usage setting would you suggest...honestly? I will not run at 100% so don't even try it lol. Would 25% be alright for a heavily overclocked (in my mind at least)quad core?Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
25% won't be very fast. Not sure if it would make the time requirements.
I'd personally do 100%, I run it like that on my main PC and don't even notice any slowdowns at all. But if you don't want to that's perfectly fine, up to you. I'd start at like 75% and see how that goes for you then tweak it from there if needed, up or down as you see fit.
100% is fine as the program will rack back its useage to 0% when any other program requires the cpu. Just try it at 100% then run a cpu intensive program, you will notice F@H reduce to almost 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
You work for Warner:eek:
Regards
John.
cool man, I'll set it at 100% and see if it impacts my everyday usage. I'm feeding some pretty insane volts to this quad, so I'm a little weary about killing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pythagoras
I do not work for Warner lol. They made a huge impact on the format war, but the company that I work for will make a bigger, nastier one lol. That's as far as I'm going with that one lol.
What are you using for cooling?
This program works a chip hard, if your OC isn't a 100 per cent stable, the client will fail. So it's a pretty good stest of 24/7 stability as well. Just keep an eye on your temps etc... setting the process lower won't really affect your temp much, either run it at 100 or leave it off is generally my thought as there sems to be no real savings in power consumption or temps in setting lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
And hail to a fellow Canuck , I don't care about formats (at all) DVD is fine with me lol.... tbh, all this DRM crap gets me down and I won't pay what they're asking for the drives or media. They can all kiss my Ugly Butt. :ROTF:
How do I use more than 1 core?
Let the rabbits wear glasses!Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
If you use the console you download 2 clients in different directories.Quote:
Originally Posted by dude_500
Like F@H 1 and F@H 2 open them up and start folding :)
Have you checked out the SMP client for multi core processors? There's a pretty good guide hereQuote:
Originally Posted by dude_500
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=174390
hey guys... i wanna join :) how do i sign up???
oh, and i read something about ATI using GPUs to do this as well... so i'm slightly confused... any way to clear out the dust?
Well, welcome to the team and tell us a bit about your system and what your up to so we can recommend the best configuration for your needs. We're damn glad to have new members :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by -iceblade^
As to the GPU folding it's all about the x1800 /x1900's right now but Stanford is working on a client for the later series of the ATI cards it should release soon (uhmm not sure when).
:welcome:
Cheers
yay :P.
ehm, the rig is in my sig
and i mostly use it for gaming and web browsing ATM... BUT, i want to OC it sometime in the next week, so i don't know if that wlll mess with anything?
Well, my honest advice would be to overclock your rig and get it rock solid stable then you can use the folding client. The client is very tough on a computer and will throw errors if there is any stability. If we can give you a hand with your OC we'd be glad to help, but your best bet is to post in the corresponding Intel section for assistance.
cool. Will do ^^
What Ugly said is correct. Trying to fold while overclocking just can mess things up for all involved - been there, done that, results aren't pretty :(
Hello, been hanging around the forums but never posted anything. Saw this folding team and started today, hope my system can help out.
:welcome: Sure you can help :up:
Welcome to the team cirons, we're very glad to have you!, what brings you in to our little nook here?
And welcome to XS :welcome:
Hi UnG, well i usually hang out in the amd forums (sad amd fanboy) or the vid card section but kept seeing the folding statistics in peoples sigs. I was led to investigate and thought it was a good idea to lend my spare cpu cycles.
Cirons,
Welcome to the team. ahh, a story close to many hearts around here, I'd guess. Your path to our group is like many, I'd say. We're an odd bunch but I hope you'll hang around and chat with us. We have some eclectic interests and perspectives on computing (and other stuff, too) here.
Welcome to all new folders equally :welcome:
And do not take me too seriously... I've often humor that I don't understand myself either :shakes:
Hey same here :D Can't help it, love the underdog, don't like intel much, so... :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by cirons
Besides, OCing my new phenom (when I have time to put it together :rolleyes:) should be much more interesting than a Q6600 - more settings and tinkering to fiddle with :D
Thanks for the welcome, I have a/some quick question(s). I'm using an amd cpu and i followed the window setup guide for services and now have two services running with the added arguments "-local -advmethods -forceasm -verbosity 9" should i change the -forceasm to -forceSSE? How much of an improvement would i see? And does stopping the folding to change values like this effect the current projects that are having work done on them? I also downloaded fahmon to watch the services and both of them are in the green.
Sorry for the noob questions, some of these I have seen touched on but the -forceasm/-forceSSE people that asked about changing usually gave ?amber? as what fahmon was reporting when using -forceasm on their amd processor.
I tried the forcesse thing and I didn't notice a thing so I stick with forceasm
You can change the flags for the services while they are running but they won't take effect until after you restart the services as it only reads those flags at startup.
Do you have your phenom folding as well? And if so how does it do on PPD? I'm thinking about building a dedicated machine, and haven't seen very many phenom folders. Don't know if i should pick up a phenom 2.2ghz or another windsor 3.2.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Yes it is folding right now. Currently at stock it is running about 1800PPD. That will change soon hopefully when I have time from work and class to start overclocking it. Unfortunately my HR-05 doesn't fit the northbridge on my board (hole spacing is too short for the bracket) so I'll have to come up with something to keep the chipset cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by cirons
Up and running... :)
:welcome: to the team, glad to have here :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyroe_Inc
Thanks. Running the graphical client though. The SMP, oddly enough, wouldnt save work. have to look into that later...
Edit: SMP up and running
just don't try to run both at the same time
ok...
SMP wouldn't save work? Interesting.... Was it dumping work units or restarting them every time the client restarted?
and :welcome:
actually, i didnt notice if it was the same wu.
but when closed after any number of steps(well, those i tried),
it would simply start from zero... :shrug:
and thanks..
I forgot, my PS3 has been folding for a short while. I'll keep it on as much as possible.
Great glad to hear that wes :) Sorry I didn't notice in the stats, I really should pay more attention. I wonder how many others I've missed :(Quote:
Originally Posted by WesM63
Hi guys, I'm new to the forum and new to folding. I'm running it on my Core2Duo and my PS3, I'm gonna join the team. :up:
:welcome: Always glad to have new members, and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
AYE! Welcome to all our newest crunchers!!
It's great to have you helping out on the project and supporting Team [XS]!
Welcome to the team conorgriffin :)
Check out our stickies for the help and of course always can ask if you have anything bugging. :welcome:
Probably going to join the team. OK if it is only a 2.4ghz P4(oc from 2ghz) only running at nights.
Just download, install the client I assume and set it for team 36363? Is it ok under 32bit XP?
You're probably joining our team... put team #36362 though, it works better ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Voo Doo
:welcome: :up:
Might be a silly question, but ya think I can set ma ps3 to #36362? :rolleyes:
Of course you can set your PS3 to help us. Every little bit counts.
Done :D
:welcome:
Great to have ya onboard, and thanks!
my pleasure m8 ;)
:welcome:
Mhh, finished my first ps3 WU last nite but still not popped up on the 36362 list yet? :rolleyes:
:welcome: on boardQuote:
Originally Posted by xt0m
EDIT: takes some time apparently to update stats nowadays...
Took me 2 weeks to clime up to 100,:p: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sc00p
oh ok :) and thx :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sc00p
Nm.
Count me in on this. I wanna cure some diseases or something.
I have a PS3, E6400@stock, and an E8400@4 Ghz running SMP for XS now.
Lowrez and cabbspapp, both off you very welcome to the team :welcome:
If you have any questions just ask, we're all here to help.
Happy folding :up: :wtf: :up:
Thanks! Just added a 939 3500+ too.
Get some GPUs in those suckers! :welcome:
http://justinsomnia.org/images/buffa...from-duffs.jpg
On the house
Mhm can I have some to...
I need something in my stomach right now!
Just joined this morning. It's been like 12 hours since the 3850 512MB (I understand that counts?) started folding.
I'm curious.... how can I compare to see if it's running as fast as it should be? I did the visualization thing and it reported 75 iterations per second. Is that good? Is that bad?
I saw this morning (6h after I started) that it was at 43% for the first one.... 4300 / 10000. Is that good? Cause I kinda get the feeling that it's not soo good.
Oh, well... guess I'll poke around here for a bit and see what other info I can find.
Wish I could help you on that but I don't know unfortunately. I have an X1950XT so no GPU2 client here. But, I can still say :welcome: :D
Welcome, and thanks for folding, and particularly for choosing our team!!
A couple of things you can do to monitor progress and performance.
One is get FahMon - its a nice tool, and very intuitive to use. Use Cntl-B to examine benchmarks.
Another is to right click on the F@H tray icon, then status/log file. This will show you an audit file of the client's activity, all nice and timestamped. From that, you can determine speed of each frame, the project numbers, etc.
Armed with that, you can ask around here and someone with the same/similar rig can give you some comparison performance numbers. I can tell you with my NV 8800GTX running stock speeds I'm getting about 1:37 per frame on project 5004 for 4266ppd.
Again, welcome to the team and :wtf:
Thanks for the welcome! :D
Ok. I'll install FahMon when I get back home. Where can I see how many ppds I'm getting? Maybe this can finally push me over board to spend a little more money and get a 4850 or 4870. But I have to wait for the price to go down a little and I have to find one with some good cooling. But one of those suckers should fold just nicely. :D
EDIT: @home.
FahMon doesn't work. It doesn't read any work in progress...
Here's the log file. Maybe someone can tell me how I'm doing and maybe tell me how to do the calculations myself?
So, what? Nobody knows how to see how many PPDs I'm doing on a GPU2 client?
wu 4731 = (193 points) = (100 frames)Quote:
Originally Posted by gallardo
89 sec per frame * 100 frames = 8900 sec per wu
24 hr per day * 60 min per hr * 60 sec per min = 86400 sec per day
86400 sec per day / 8900 sec per wu = 9.7078 wu's per day
193 point wu * 9.7078 wu's per day = 1873.61ppd
fahmon needs to be pointed to the folder which holds the log file. it's in your profile, not the install folder. then it should read it.
but if you need to do a manual calc, use the simple formula above as an example. just input your new wu value and new frame times..