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I suggest not to test if crashfree is working........using procedure of switching off the PC during flash erasing. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
There is the version 6.10.02 (I hope to remember correctly) of Asus flashing tool from Windows that permits BIOS' downgrade.
It is mentioned somewhere in this 3d too.
It doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowtcell
But I don't suggest to use the profiles saved under a different version of BIOS.
So tell me guys, P5E or not?
If I were in your shoes at this moment in time I wouldn't buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
Not cause of the P5E which I love and serves me well, but of
what to come. The new SLI-board, X48, Skull-Trail etc. :p:
What about someone like me who's looking for a board to replace his now dead 680i? Right now I'm tossing up between the P5K-E WiFi/AP and the P5E. AU$100 difference in price, but the P5E has beefier stock heatsinks (so I might not need to replace them, saving me money), and also gives the option of Crossfire if I switch to ATI soonish.
So for OCing Q6600's, which would be better: P5K-E WiFi/AP or P5E?
Eller
Between them I'd choose the P5E, X38, better/stable OC and FX PCI-2 Soundcard.Quote:
Originally Posted by karl_eller
Even then I'd still wait for the X48/new line coming up boards.
Waiting isn't really an option for me. I busted my current mobo (eVGA 680i A1), and need something to replace it, so I'll be looking at buying a board in the next couple of days.
Eller
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMaster23
you dont need that , you can downgrad bios with the AsusUpdate 61002
regards
What is the Vdrop on the P5E?
I put 1.350 in the bios and get 1.232 in windows with the P5K-E WiFi.. it's a nightmare
Works like a champ thanks. This is the link for the download.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brama
http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...sUpdt61002.zip
With an easy pencilmod its 0 droop here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
Thanks f0r the answers guys. I'll have to try the AsusUpdate, crashing a flash scares me.
Sorry not Vdroop, I meant this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cranox
What is the Vdrop on the P5E?
I put 1.350 in the bios and get 1.232 in windows with the P5K-E WiFi.. it's a nightmare
Mine P5E no pencilmod :
Bios set 1350v , windows idle 1320v , stressed 1300v
With pencilmod :
Bios set 1350v , windows idle 1350v , stressed 1350v :)
Maybe u can search for a P5K-E vdrop mod.
I am tearing my P5E out of my my main test system this afternoon!!
I am stuffing in a P5K-E that I have had since November but, have never had the time to mess with. My P5E is still No.1 with me (for now) I just need to know about this P5K-E as I am going to use one of these 2 boards with a new 3870 card in my entertainment center. With this card and my system in my tv room it will play both blu-ray and HD-DVD movies. So I want to stress it out a bit and see.
So godsfist I will know better how to answer you very soon.....
WZ
Looks like I have made a big mess of things. After reading a post on a different site, I tried a bios change. Now it won't boot at all. It does not go far enough to press Delete to get into the bios. That is, the monitor does not come on at all. Is there any way to reset to defaults or getinto the bios other than the CMOS battery/jumper method? Thanks in advance.
I just put together a new box with this mobo and damn is it solid. Im running at 3.0ghz with my Q6600 with literally no effort (backing off a ram ration and increasing the fsb, no voltage increments at all). I've never had this good an experience overclocking, but then again Ive never used the higher end components I did this time. Thanks everyone for the bios info though, Im leaving my mobo at 0303 for now, it seems to be working fine and I dont want to run into issues.... yet...
Got some problems with my scythe mugen and the first memory slot.
Does is matter if I put my 2 sticks into slot 2 and 4?
The manual states that the best thing to do is to put it into slot 1 and 3.
Well, hopefully ASUS comes up with a new bios update to solve everyones memory problems. Still on 0201 and want to go to a higher bios.
Got my P5E today.. flashed to the latest bios and everything just works :clap:
Also got an E8400 Prime stable at 4GHz on silent air, Thermalright Ultra 120 with 120mm fan running at 900rpm
But one core reads 15 degrees higher than the other in idle and under stress according to CoreTemp
Is that a problem or just one of those things you can ignore?
That is a problem see my posts in the official coretemp thread. It is 1 of 3 problems a dodgy diode on the core or a lack of contact between the core and the IHS or a poorly calibrated T-Diode on the core.Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
Sorry
John
PS I have my QX9650 being RMAd for the very same reason as cores #3 and #4 ran 21C hotter than cores #1 and #2
But it's the best of all 4 E8400's I've bought :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnZS
someone has too much money ..haha .. where did you get ur 8400's ?
I only paid for the one I kept in the end :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by MMaster23
I'm a reseller in Australia
Hmz, what works for me is just keep rebooting. Sometimes resetting or aQuote:
Originally Posted by mystikmedia
total unplug of the power and a restart again. Somehow my bios always
will reset to standard settings.
Has anyone tried removing the stock cooling on a P5E? I've heard that with the Asus Maximus, Asus has started using some sort of epoxy on the northbridge, so that if you remove the NB heatsink after the board has been used a couple of times, it nice and glued in. I've even heard of people ripping the IHS off, or even the whole NB chip out of the board.
Anyone come across this problem with the P5E? I'll most likely be replacing the stock heatsinks with Thermalright stuff in the future, so it'd be nice to avoid any potential trouble.
Eller
which CPU air coolers fit the P5E and which don't fit without modification? Anyone have a recommendation for a good CPU cooler that's easy to install and fits well?
is 502 the only 45nm-compatible BIOS?
what's the deal with the vDIMM issue? Still present in 502? How to calc real vDIMM in 502? Asusite?
how is quality control for this board?
any common glitches with Vista?
should I wait for X48 if I will be running single-GPU, and DDR2?
for sub-500FSB, will stock NB/PWM cooling be fine?
I've read that there may be a hardware revision in the P5E is that true and what is the latest? I've got one arriving tomorrow and want to do the research now. Any suggestions on a bios to get me started? I'll be using Gskill HZ, e6600 (until e8500 shows up).
And thanks for keeping the thread up.
My board came with bios 203. I flashed to 502 because I had read about problems. I originally had trouble getting Memtest to pass, but after reading numerous threads on the Asus P5E Forum I solved my dilemma. This board's memory controller seems to overvolt memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
On my old P5B Deluxe I could run at 1077Mhz (5-5-5-15) at 2.0v, so I was puzzled when this did not seem to work on this board. I am currently running 2x1Gb at 1037Mhz (3:4 at 5-5-5-15) with 1.86v, but according to AiSuite it is actually 1.95v. Memtest just passed overnight with NO errors.
A lot of people are having trouble running 4x1GB 1066 ram, especially Crucial Ballistix's, but they are just overclocked 800 ram anyway. You cannot beat G.Skill! I have not tried 4x1GB as I do not need it at this time. That is for another day. I have 2x1Gb in reserve.
This bios has some additional features which I am trying to understand before I mess things up. In fact the manual seem to be for the Maximus Formula and has not been edited for the P5E.
Hi guys
I have 4gb of corsair ddr xms2 800mhz When I got my board It had the 402 bios and two stick keept on giving me errors so I updated to 502 same problem so I was about to rma two of the sticks when I found someone on another forum with the same ram and same problem he suggested to use the 107 bios.So I had to downgrade to that bios and since then never got an error in memtest.Now my problem the 4 stick pass memtest a 2.1 vdimm without problem all night I can reboot as many times as I want no problems in game or anything.But when I shut my pc off for the night everytime I try to boot in the morning I get a blackscreen I have to take out one stick its boots perfectley then go into the bios set vdimm to 2.2 shutoff pc put the last stick back in then boot again.Wondering if theres a solution to this problem and the first problem I posted has to do with my corsair not liking the newer bios two stick are D9 v1.2
and two stick are v2.1 dont know what ic.The guy who had the same problem had 4 sticks of the same ic it just the newer bios cause errors in memtest with this ram.I just need to firgure out how to solve the boot problem would setting the vdimm to 2.2 for 24 hour usage be dangerous?
Thanks for the heads up! It's that type of insight that will help me avoid extra frustration. I wonder if that overvolting is something they will fix in the future bios releases.Quote:
Originally Posted by doakh
I agree Gskill rules, use it in all of my machines even three laptops, never one failure or problem.
Any help on my last question I have every timing at default 55515 is there something I need to change in the ram settings?
this could be reason why my ram was crapping out on 502 .. running smooth on 107 bios. will try again later on 502 (cus clocking on the 502 rocks) but with 2.1 ~ 2.2v for my 2.3~2.4v ramQuote:
Originally Posted by doakh
Well one of my stick is dead so im going to rma a pair but whats up with corsair xms2 ddr 800 and the later bioses on this board i still have 2gb and i get errors in memtest with every bios except the 107 is asus gonna fix this issue.I know its a bios problem since i tested them in an other board and like the 107 bios no errors all night.
I got a p5e yesterday after my last 5 boards was all Gigabyte and the bios options are confusing for me. Can some1 link me to some templates for 502 bios please.
W00t! My P5E has FINALLY been shipped, 5 freaking days after I ordered it! So unless something goes wrong, it'll be here monday morning.
Is 107 still the best BIOS for this board? Or is there something out that performs better, especially with quads?
Also, has anyone tried to remove the stock cooling to see if it's epoxied down like on the Maximus boards?
Eller
Are there any programs for being able to read the vdimm on the p5e, nothing shows in Everest.
AiSuite does, but thats all I use it for.Quote:
Originally Posted by necron66
P5E WS Pro on the testbench, shipped BIOS (0404) was useless, unable to save any settings in BIOS without it hanging on startup (D5 code on Port 80 diagnostic card). Stock automatic settings are not very good.
Setting DRAM static read control to: disabled allowed me to manage to save my BIOS settings, manually changing the usual ram timings 4-4-4-12 and setting the ram voltage to 1.8V brought enough stability to allow for BIOS flash.
System setup:
Q6600 G0
2 x 1GB PC6400 Crucial Ballistix
1 x ATI X1950XTX
1 x WD360 Raptor
1 x Pioneer DVD-RW
580W Tagan PSU
BIOS 0503 installed now, stability testing commenced. 7 hours of memtest86+ passed, but I will test for a full 12-24 before I'll be convinced that it's good. Setup crapped out on mersenne prime number crunch with rounding error so I'm now trying to figure out what settings will bring absolute stability at stock speeds.
ASUS support when emailed helpfully told me to remove the addon card (the PCI port 80 diagnostic card) as this was probably causing the problem.
:rofl:
I have asked them to provide example ram timings for safe operation and they provided a link to the qualified memory list PDF. Sigh.
:clap:
I haven't had a board this :banana::banana::banana::banana:e since I had a couple of DFI NForce 2 boards, but my P5 WDG2 WS Pro is nearly knackered, needs must... I fail to see how they can ship a board which doesn't work on auto settings out of the box with Micron DIMMS.
It won't work for some reason. I run it and it closes straight down. Downloaded the latest version, same thing. When I googled it seems this happens for a lot of ppl, but no1 posts how to correct it.Quote:
Originally Posted by doakh
Any ideals?
None yet. This is a wide spread problem. On the 'ASUS P5E Forum' their are several threads on it. AiSuite runs sometimes for me and sometimes it does not. I think it is related to another program I have running that is connected to the internet; it is probably using the same protocol. When this other program is running AiSuite will not run and vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by necron66
Aisuite never ran for me when I had my P5E3 (CPU is @ RMA so can't use it ATM).
I reported the issue to ASUS and got this reply.
JohnQuote:
Dear Valued Customer,
Currently we are collecting this issue, and we will release newer version to fix the problem, sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for your feedback.
Sincerely and best regards,
Cooper
ASUS Customer Service Center (Shanghai , China)
Thanks guys.
i have the P5E board and just wondering do you guys get massive vdrop and vdroop like i do? if i set a vcore of 1.45 in the bios. in windows shows 1.416v idle and 1.384v load. pretty flawed board if you ask me...considering its the same board as the high end maximus formula. i feel bad for people that spend crazy amounts of money and have to put up with this problem.
also i'm using the latest 0502 bios and AIsuite doesn't work on it (therefore i can't see what my vdim is in windows). i'm trying to push my ram, so people with the older bios, can you please post vdimm set in the bios, and what it shows in windows.
so i know my max value i can set in the bios and not run my ram past 2.2v in windows. thanks
Hi all, recently got a Asus P5E board and a Q6600 to QX6850 speeds using auto/stock volts..
But Vdroop seems quite large
1.35 set bios say, 1.320 Idle, 1.280 Load
Interested in mod to cure Vdroop but need comeplete A-Z as never done one before :cool:
Vdrop can be modded with a simple pencilmod ( its somewhere explaind on the forum )
Anyone running a Wolfdale or Yorkfied in this board with 0107 BIOS? Has 0107 the microcodes for them?
Question: I just want to confirm that the only way to flash an older bios is using AsusUpdate 61002
I'm asking because this version of the software does not work under Windows Vista and I will be forced to install XP to Downgrade the bios
Just did Pencil Mod.. first ever mod i might add and it works!!
Set Idle Load
Before: 1.35 1.32V 1.280/1.272V
After: 1.35V 1.336V 1.344V
Thats Load volt of only 0.006V Vdoop from bios set well chuffed... but downside now my temps are higher!
So will reduce volts acordingly! say to 1.275V bios set?
Hi folks,
I am facing a problem here with my P5E based system. I really hope someone can help me a bit, and believe me, I've got more than a decade of PC tuning experience. Needing help is a quite desperate thing for me. Thanks in advance.
Here comes. I have got a multiple OS installation here, Windows Server 2003 x64 which runs rocksteady and like a charm, and I am testing Vista x64 Ultimate. Vista x64 and Server 2008 x64 RC1 both lock up randomly when running a Second Life client sometime between after a few mintues and 5 hours. Usually within 20 minutes after launching the client. The PC seems to block and only to work again every few seconds. USB keyboard and mouse are not functional anymore and the HD LED would flash every few seconds. All I can do then is pushing the power button.
The system has passed a 6 hours Orthos 2004 test stable under Win2003 at 800 and 935 MHz memory clocks.
Here is my hardware configuration:
ASUS P5E, Rev. 1.02G, BIOS 0502
E6600 @ 3.5 GHz, 389x9, 1.45V core, Strap 333 - or -
E6600 @ 3.6 GHz, 400x9, 1.47V core, Strap 400
FSB term volt: 1.20V, NB Volt: 1.25V
4x1 GB Corsair XMS2 6400 CL5 RAM, 2.1V, either at 800 MHz or 935.
Creative Labs X-Fi Fatal1ty
Sparkle 8800GTS 320 MB @ 594 GPU/925 RAM, BIOS modded.
just so everyone knows, the only bios that supports the new 45nm cpus is the latest 0502. when i bought the board i had to put my bro's Q6600 cpu in and flash it before it would detect my cpu. i just had no video signal. but the board had no error beeps. so i thought it must have been the bios.
in regards to pencil modding the board to fix vdroop, i was just wondering whether this is a hardware fault or if a bios can fix this. if a bios can fix this, the wont it be dangerous for those that have already done the mod, since a bios update may make everything overvolt?
also does this only fix vdroop in the vcore or does it fix the vdimm as well. i'm still considering if i should do it.
thanks
Guys am confused,
Some on the board adviced me to tighten my timings, as in lowering
the timings and in the divider 1:1. They are now at 1150mhz 5-5-5-15.
My Q6600 is curently at 3333Mhz the divider is at 2:3 according to CPUz.
Tightening meaning, lowering the timings as also the speed in order
to get 1:1. Wich means making them slower in mhz but faster in
timing.
What is the difference and what is better? Where can you notice that
performance difference in practice other then in benchmarking. Wich
I don't care for if it is really minimal.
Thx
Nevermind guys, the 1:1 ratio is a confused/misinformed myth.
Link: Intel Overclocking Redefined: Guide to Successful Overclocking with NB Straps in Mind
Just built a new rig:
P5E, 0502, Vdroop mod
Q6600 G0 VID=1.30
TRUE 120 w/ Scythe Flex, AS5
2x2GB G.Skil DDR2-1000
Corsair 620HX
I tried for 400x9 but had to keep bumping Vcore. Finally got it to run P95 for more than a few minutes @ 1.525 in BIOS, 1.504 in Windows. Ran hot though… 1,2 = 74 and 3,4 = 69. I decided to lap the heat sink / heat spreader later (TRUE was prelapped by FrozenCPU but still saw light using the razor blade test) and went to bed. When I got up this morning, #4 had stopped after 2 hrs. The others were still running (6 hrs).
I’m not too keen on taking Vcore above 1.5v, so now I’m wondering if lapping is worth the time and effort considering that the weak core isn’t the hottest core. If #4 can’t do 2 hrs of P95 right now, is there really any hope that dropping the temp 5 deg by itself will get it to run P95 for 24 hrs? I don’t see what else I can do. Using 1.5v for NB, CPU PLL, and FSB termination, and the northbridge and memory seem fine. Haven’t found the limits yet, and doesn’t look like I’ll need to.
It’s been running almost 30 min using 425x8 @ 1.41v in Windows, with 1,2 = 66 and 3,4 = 61. A lap and reseat for the slight chance of another couple hundred MHz isn’t sounding very attractive. I just wanted to get some thoughts from you folks before I lock it in and start tweaking timings.
TIA !
Do the BIOS options change between 0107 (which came with my board) and any of the newer BIOSes? I'm playing around with RAM overclocking at the moment, and the options are fairly disappointing. With my old eVGA 680i A1, I could set the RAM to run either at a certain speed, or else as a ratio compared to the FSB, while on the P5E with BIOS 107, I can only select set speeds (667, 800, 887 and 1066), with no other apparent options.
Edit: Wait, scratch that. Once I started changing my FSB, I realized that was just the ratios showing what the Mem speed would be. It's all good. Now I've realized this, it'll make OCing much easier.
Edit 2: Ok, another thing. I'm running BIOS 0107, and I'm having HUUUUGE vDrop and vDroop problems. If I set vCore in BIOS to be 1.55v, in Windows under idling it reads at 1.496 v (CPU-Z or Everest, both the same), and under load drops even further to 1.446 v. Which means under load I'm short 0.104v compared to what I set in BIOS. If vCore is 1.65v, idle reads 1.576v, and load reads 1.528v (a difference of 0.122v). This is with a Q6600 B3. Aside from pencil modding (is there even a pencil mod for vDrop? I'm pretty sure there's one for vDroop), is there any way to fix this? Would upgrading to a different BIOS sort this out? If yes, which one?
Edit 3: Enabling CPU Voltage Dampener has helped solve SOME of my vDroop issue, but I'm still getting some fairly nasty vDrop. Voltages as of now are:
BIOS: 1.65v
CPU-Z Idle: 1.576v
CPU-Z Load: 1.536v
I might try 502 tomorrow, and see if that helps my vDrop issues. Could it be because Q6600's aren't supported with 107?
Eller
ok asus just released a new version of AIsuite that fixes the problem. i can see my vDIMM now!!. get it here if you're interested.
1.9v bios = 2.05v windows
1.96v bios = 2.2v windows
2.0v bios = 2.3v windows
2.1v bios = 2.55v windows
omg! i've been pushing 2.55v through my ram. how stupid is that. the vdrop is insane!!??!?
no wonder i was getting more stable memtest results with 2.0v in the bios. ok going to retest with proper voltages now. hopefully my ram is still alive. i just did a prime blend test for 3 hours and it was fine.
jikes .. i tested my ram at 2.3 and 2.4 (as required by the ram itself) .. i don't even want to know what my poor RAM has been going through :X
R/E the VDIMM, their are reports on the ASUS forum from a couple of users claiming the P-5E boards are overvolting the ram.
Does anyone know where the measuring points for VDIMM are for DMM?
Erhm...read up? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hootsmin
I did read up. I can see a software measuring tool for the VDIMM, I asked if anyone had any idea where the points for reading VDIMM with a hardware multimeter was. I have even *gasp* searched the thread.
Oh sorry my bad, you didn't say 'hardware multimeter' in your former post :D
No problemo. :)
OMG indeed. My ram is rated 2.3-2.4v, downloading ur link now, I think I'm almost scared to see what it is running at. I have 2.36 set in the bios currently. :\ Thanks for posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya_au
Is this something Asus can fix with a bios update?
-E- It's still downloading but is this version V1.03.19? Been on the Asus site for a week. If so a. it won't run on my P5E and b. when it does run for 15 seconds before closing it doesn't display ram voltage.
Anyone found a way around the huge vDrop I'm getting with the P5E? With both 107 and 502 BIOS, vCore will be set to 1.6v in BIOS, but read 1.512v in windows when idling, and drop another 0.05v under load.
Eller
Do the pencil mod mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by karl_eller
All the time. I am gaining a better understanding of this board and it's relation ship with the processor and memory and especially how it likes to run memory. Well the memory I have here anyway. I Really prefer the G.Skill 6400HZ to my other G.Skill. G.Skill is all I run. I am not advocating it to anyone,it is just what I like and prefer. I have the 2x2gb kit of of their pc8000 4GBPQ. it runs good on this board, not great but good. I have 2x1gb of the 2GBNQ. It runs good also. Both are rated at 5-5-5-15 and you need to stay close to those settings for the mem to work and they prefer auto running 1:1.
Where the 6400HZ will just blow them away running on virtually any divider as long as you stay at or below 660mhz or DDR1320 with the memory!! This HZ is just amazing stuff. I have been experimenting with a new daily clock. Here is a pic of it. It is very stable at this speed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lla/sp32x4.jpg
This is why I really enjoy the 6400HZ it run run so many different ways!!
I am still using bios 502 and will stick with it thankyou very much.
WZ
Nice results WeldZilla!
Im getting ready to buy a E8400 in the next few days, do you guys think i should get the P5E or the X38-DS4?
My only concern is the vdroop, i don't plan on doing and modding to the board. And i want to OC the 8400 to the max..
Would you recommend the P5E without the vdroop mod, is it really that bad?
Hello guys new member here I built my latest rig with these parts.
C2D 2.66ghz 1333fsb
Asus P5E Mobo with bios 501
2gig Crucial Ballistik@DDR800
Asus 8800gts (G92)
Corsair 620w PSU
I looked up the Vdimm pin online and measured mine on a unused Dimm slot on the mobo (Pin-64) with my DMM.
With the bios set to 1.86 I was reading 1.917 at the pin under full load
+/- .002v
So the mobo is indeed overvolting the ram by .057 volts.
I wonder if Asus will be paying for peoples Ram if they crap out due to overvolting on this issue?
Hope this helps ;)
I ordered a multi meter of ebay yesterday to measure this, can I get a link for what you did please.Quote:
Originally Posted by BitBucket
Thanks.
I would say the vdroop is very bad. I just did a pencil mod and vdroop got fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatGuy16
For the people that cannot find the pencilmod , here is another picture
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7...roophs4pi5.jpg
If picture not loading or to slow its here http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7...roophs4pi5.jpg
I cant give you a link to what I did but I will link were I got the pinouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by necron66
Here http://download.micron.com/pdf/techn...dr2/TN4703.pdf
Also make sure you order needle probes for the DMM the pin to get to is very tiny and regular probe leads will not fit.
As far as instructions go just measure on the outside of the dimm slot were you will see the pin. Dont measure in the actuall slot itself because the risk of causing a short is very high.
On the outside of the Dimm slot you will see plastic spacers between each pin and that is were you want to measure.
This picture is the best I can do to explain were.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6...slotnj4.th.jpg
Just a normal lead pencil or a certain type? And how much shading on it? ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Cranox
Thanks BitBucket, but the stuff in that link doesn't make much sense to me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BitBucket
I've got a P5E and 2x2GB DDR2-1000. FSB @ 400. Timings 15-5-5-5 2T. 1.92v BIOS = 2.1v WIN. Transaction Booster off and AI Clock Twist auto.
Setting the RAM at 1:1=800 gets me P95 stable. Setting the RAM at 2:3=1000 gets me lucky to post.
I thought before RMA'ing to Newegg I'd talk to G.Skill and see if they had any recommendations. The tech I spoke with claimed that manually setting the timings, even to the rated values of 15-5-5-5, would not allow the RAM to be run async. He said all timings must be set to AUTO.
That doesn't sound quite right to me. I've been doing a lot of forum reading on Q6600 / P5E and haven't seen anything about that. Maybe I just missed it, but I can't try it until I get home tonight. I thought if anyone here with the P5E and G.Skill can tell me if they're running async with manual timings, then I can save the time and just fill out the RMA right here and now.
Thanks!
im runnin 5:6 1020mhz 5-5-5-12, no problems here. i would RMAQuote:
Originally Posted by stevenmh
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by OrgnlPrankster7
A standard HB pencil works fine for the Pencil mod, say go over 5-10 times should be adiquate!
I have to manually set the GSkill to 800 before raising the FSB, otherwise it will not post. Memtest 86+ 18 hours, no errors @ 1066 5-5-5-15 2T 2.06 Volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevenmh
how are you going to sell the chips as new if you open the box?Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
could a bios update fix the vdroop? if it does, then how would it affect people with the pencil mod? would it overvolt the vcore?
i'm thinking about doing the pencil mod, but i have a feeling a new bios would be pushed out very soon.
Can you get your addon soundcard to work with 3rd party microphones? I cannot get mine, all the mics I tried are mute. The same mics works fine with my laptop.
Hey lowtcell ( I hope that is just a nic anmd not your condition) It is true using your DDR 2 1000 2gig sticks you need to just set it all to auto on the P5E which sets the your mem to 1:1 and you just can't get the same performance with the mem as you can with the 6400HZ. I have found that trying any other settings on my P5e is a no go. I have sticks laying all over the place in here. The only ones that really bring out the speed I have are the 6400HZ (G.Skill)
WZ
Hi,
I just took the time to get to the bottom of the whole matter. I already suspected that the AI Suite's VDIMM readout is utter BS...
BTW; I used a Metex 4650 digital multimeter with a precision of 0.05% @ 2V.
BIOS AI Suite real voltage
1.90 2.05 1.964
2.10 2.55 2.154
I did not take the time to test more voltages, but it looks pretty linear to me in the BIOS and the DMM's measured voltage. Rule of thumb: BIOS ssetting plus 0.05V, and you got the real voltage. And, quoting Douglas Adams:
Don't PANIC! (about your RAM voltage)
Hey guys...
yesterday i got my e8500 retail together with asus P5E WS Pro. I'm runnin them on air, but i've got problem to do fsb over 400...here my settings, where is my error?
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what is the highest FSB can P5E with all 4 dimm slots in use? I am think of upgrade my P5B-D it can run 560FSB + with 2 dimm slot in use, with 4 it's a sux egg.
VII: Keep in mind that the X38 chipset was designed for FSB 400, no need to increase the NB voltage and FSB termination voltage just yet.
To my experience, any FSB term voltage above 1.34 causes hangs/stalls at least when running certain games. In my case NFS: Underground 2.
The only thing that should be neccessary to be increased around 437 MHz is the NB voltage...I'd try 1.4V then. Give it a shot
:p:
Oh, yes. The voltage damper should be enabled. it's the droop mod. However I have no idea if it works on your version of the board. It doesn't on the P5E. Your BIOS might be old, too. It is still called damper and not CPU Loadline calibration, and that was only in the first BIOS version.
is there any issue with 4 installed dimms? i have placed 4 x 2gb ddr2-1000 ocz's on it...
VII: I am using four 1 GB Corsair XMS2-6400 CL5 modules. I don't know of any particular issues other than the usual decrease of overclockability compared to two modules. I got mine up to 960 MHz....currently running them at 933 MHz (FSB 389 on a E6600) :)
try upping your vcore to 1.34... and keep upping it untill your prime stable because everything else looks fine to me....
So I just did the pencil mod, lightly shaded about 10 times over it, and I still can't overclock it. The settings I used on my DS3P to get 425x8 won't even post on this P5e x38. I'm using 502 bios.
Could some people fill out this for me with there settings, it can be higher than 425x8, it will give me something to work off.
-E- PC specs in sig.
Ai Clock Tuner :
CPU Ratio Setting :
FSB Frequency :
FSB Strap to Northbridge :
PCI-E Frequency :
Dram Static Read Control :
Ai Clock Twister :
Transaction Booster :
Vcore Voltage :
CPU PLL Voltage :
FSB Termination Voltage :
Dram Voltage :
Northbridge Voltage :
Southbridge Voltage :
Load Line Calibration :
CPU GTL Reference :
NB GTL Reference :
SB 1.5v Voltage :
CPU Spread Spectrum :
PCIE Spread Spectrum :
Thanks, greatly appreciated.
I sell them in combos installed on a motherboard at a slightly cheaper price, everyone wins :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by icywater
Awww crap on a stick, Vdimm doesn't register for me, just the CPU voltage with 502 biosQuote:
Originally Posted by aiya_au
ok lol ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by godsfist
any one overclock with this board using 4 dimm slot, i wanted to know. I want to get this board but i don't want a board that can't overclock well with 4 dimm slots in use.
Anyone know what the Vdimm will be in windows if you set it to Auto in the bios?
I tried doing the vDroop pencil mod, and all it did was make everything really unstable. Eg before vDroop mod, on BIOS 502 I can get 3.6Ghz stable with 1.625v BIOS (Q6600 B3, so it likes the voltage), but once I did the vDroop mod (even just a very light shade), I'd get random restarts and BSODs. Undid the pencil mod with an eraser, and everything was back to normal.
But so far, I've had the P5E for about 2 weeks, and I'm quite happy with it. The vDrop and vDroop (at 1.6v vCore, they're about 0.06v a piece, for a total drop of 0.12v) are a pain, but that's easily enough fixed by just upping the voltage in BIOS a tad. Aside from that, it's got my Q6600 B3 stable at 3.6Ghz with about 1.625-1.65v BIOS, or 3.5Ghz with 1.6v BIOS. It's running at 3.5Ghz at the moment, since 3.6GHz generates a little bit too much heat.
But aside from that, it's rock solid. I love it.
Eller
hi everybody been away for while bought caught up a little today,
actually just wanted to tell about my experiences with this board,
dunno if it actually contains too much info for anybody here
first of all my initial thoughts of my p5e was super bad... here's what happened
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my original mem-sticks didn't work, i had 4x1gb Mushkin XP2 ddr2-800 4-4-4-11 sticks, these worked ok with bios 0107 and 0201, but all others failed memtest(0203,0303,0401)
tried at least 10 forums and all possible settings, timings and so on, those sticks would not pass memtest
no response from asus support, and i saw other ppl complaining about it too, with certain corsair modules, mushkin replied but told me to stick with 0107(they suspected asus to have made a major memsubsystem routine)
so my board ate all mem on 0107, with no problem except i wasn't able to clock my cpu 1mhz more than standard, tried EVERYTHING, and i do mean everything... finally got pissed and bought so other sticks to test out
got 4x1gb Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 PC2-8500
and started again, now all my machine would pass memtest with flying colors no matter how i set it (almost)...
and with 0401 and onward i was able to get decent clocks on the cpu too
to this day my old mushkin modules passes 30 hours of memtest in my old p5b-deluxe still... wonder what was wrong, cause i eventually settled with my new crucial sticks
since then my board has run without a hitch..
config today is as follows...
Intel C2Q Q6600 B3 @ 3.2ghz 8x400 (39 c idle/54 c load(orthos) with coretemp 0.96) (bios set for 1.325v)
TR U120 Ex w/ Scytche S-Flex 120mm @ 1200rpm
Asus P5E (bios 0502)
4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 @ 1066 4-4-4-12 (bios set for 1.96v)
Zotac AMP! GeForce 8800GT-512
1x74GB WD Raptor AFDF
2x500GB WD RE2
3x750GB WD RE2
850w CoolerMaster Modular
Antec Ninehundred case
i consider this 100% stable, orthos run about 20 hours...
uptime of normally 2-3weeks between eventual update forces me to reboot
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one question tho':
- will the upcommin' Xeon 45nm series work fine as well with bios 0502, fx. the Xeon X3350? i was thinking if there's any microcode difference from the Q9450 to the X3350, that the 0502 might not have?
//devnull77
Just did the pencil mod with HB and so far 0 loss at full load. Running at 425mhz FSB (E6750@3400) Vcore set to auto 1.320 idle and full load in both CPU-Z and AISuite 1.03.19. Had around .03 loss before the mod.
Now for the question.
How accurate is the AISuite reading for the memory voltage?
I had bios set to 2.06 (.04 bellow G-Skill recommendation) and AISuite showed 2.450 :eek: I knocked bios setting to 1.92 and now reading 2.10 in AISuite, but have not ran any Memtest passes on it yet to see how it reacts.
lowtcell:
In case you haven't noticed my previous posting, AISuite's VDIMM voltages are totally OFF. I have confirmed that with a REAL multimeter.
The REAL voltage for the DDR2 modules is roughly the voltage the BIOS is set to plus 0.05V. Maybe even less, taking into consideration that there is an inductor between the moduels and the MOSFETs that regulate the voltage.
I suspect AISuite isn't supposed to display the VDimm readout because ASUS saved the money for an extra sensor on the P5E amd whatever comes out ar emore or less lottery numbers. And this current AISuite only accidentally displays something. :down:
Has anyone had issues with this board and monitoring the Northbridge/Motherboard temperature?
I'm using Everest Ultimate to monitor temperatures, and every now and then (doesn't seem to matter if the comp is idling or fully loaded), Everest will lose the NB temp sensor. If I open up AI suite, it'll display something completely impossible like 190C. Touching the heatsink directly over the NB, it's warm, but not hot, I'd say somewhere around about 30-40C, and when Everest DOES report temperatures, it usually reads about 30-35C (and AI Suite will also agree with Everest's temps). Northbridge voltage in BIOS is set to 1.31v, and I'm using the 502 BIOS. I can't remember exactly, but I think the same thing also happened with the 107 BIOS.
Eller
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Originally Posted by karl_eller
what Everest you useing in the corp version i see a colt saying 2.20 sound like thats my mem volts as for nb does that show as mb senser or is there ment to be a nb one to
Yea I see a lot of new unknown readings in the Corp version also. But the ones that seem close to vDimm and NBv are still off.Quote:
Originally Posted by death