The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

I am running the latest one, 1302.

Yes, the ram may be a problem, extreme system PI as I said have been very unstable since I started OCing over 3.2ghz, but the noraml PI is working every time. At the settings I were running last night also extremesystems PI were very stable.

When I tried to lower the volt on the NB it hung the comp after just a few mins of Lotro. So it looks to me I cannot get the comp to run lower volt on NB. If its the ram that is the problem comp should not hang after lowering NB volt right?

JH_man

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Originally Posted by JH_man

I am running the latest one, 1302.

Yes, the ram may be a problem, extreme system PI as I said have been very unstable since I started OCing over 3.2ghz, but the noraml PI is working every time. At the settings I were running last night also extremesystems PI were very stable.

When I tried to lower the volt on the NB it hung the comp after just a few mins of Lotro. So it looks to me I cannot get the comp to run lower volt on NB. If its the ram that is the problem comp should not hang after lowering NB volt right?

JH_man

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yes and no the MCH will affect the ram stability when lowering the volts generally you will get hard locks when stressing the rig..temps and volts are huge factor here..take your PL from 7 to 8 or 9 to reduce NB stress.
I think your best options are to try and add a fan on the NB , test your dimms with memtest both overclocked and stock...50-55c load seems to be where ppl start to see instability on the NB....if it was stable but its now unstable ans there has been no change it has to be heat or bad ram if the cpu is stable..you could also check carefully around the dimm slot area for swollen/fat capacitors, if you see any its RMA time for your board.

Is this the ramtest you are talking about? http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

using 1207 bios

my highest OC so far..

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/599754.png

If I were to try running the machine with another (2 dims) set og ram, would this be good on this board? Corsair Dominator TWIN2X PC8500 4GB DDR2 Kit w/2x 2GB XMS2-8500 dimm's, CL5-5-5-15, 1066MHz, E.P.P, DHX
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=360396

The Dominators work very well on this board

Memtest >>>> http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.5.iso.zip
burn the ISO to cd and boot from your CD/DVD drive let it run for 3 passes, errors can be found after 1 or 2 passes

I'm running 8GB of Mushkin on my board, no issues at all with it.

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=661

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I'm running 8GB of Mushkin on my board, no issues at all with it.

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=661

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I have a 2x2GB kit there not bad at all the XP2's will do 1200MHz with a little effort

Hi, what memory do you recommend for the Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula BIOS Conversion?

I'm currently running 2x OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 SLI-Ready Edition 4GB Dual Channel memory kits
I am running it at a Performance Level of 8 with a 1:1 FSB of 400Mhz and DDR2-800

But if the memory could do CAS 3 at DDR2-800 then I could hopefully lower the "Performance Level" on my Rampage Formula to 6 I think...
Or if it could even do CAS 4 at DDR2-1000 then I should be able to reach "Performance Level" of 5

So I am looking for memory capable of that, these two kits have good prices in Sweden, I will like now run 2 kits for 8GB total...
OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition
OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition

Would you recommend these or any other for this mobo?

EDIT; The OCZ PC2-9600 Low-Voltage Blade Series, OCZ2B1200LV4GK looks absolutely awsome, very good price too, anyone with experience with these on MF or RF and lower timings?

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Originally Posted by pet168

using 1207 bios

my highest OC so far..

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/599754.png

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What kind of Voltage settings did you use for that?
I cant seem to get past 3.8GHZ on my x3220 "B3" stepping.

So far this is my p95 stable settings.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/...wboy/cpuid.png

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Originally Posted by Per Hansson

Hi, what memory do you recommend for the Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula BIOS Conversion?

I'm currently running 2x OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 SLI-Ready Edition 4GB Dual Channel memory kits
I am running it at a Performance Level of 8 with a 1:1 FSB of 400Mhz and DDR2-800

But if the memory could do CAS 3 at DDR2-800 then I could hopefully lower the "Performance Level" on my Rampage Formula to 6 I think...
Or if it could even do CAS 4 at DDR2-1000 then I should be able to reach "Performance Level" of 5

So I am looking for memory capable of that, these two kits have good prices in Sweden, I will like now run 2 kits for 8GB total...
OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition
OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition

Would you recommend these or any other for this mobo?

EDIT; The OCZ PC2-9600 Low-Voltage Blade Series, OCZ2B1200LV4GK looks absolutely awsome, very good price too, anyone with experience with these on MF or RF and lower timings?

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From my experience OCZ do not play well with this board, you need to relax the timing a lot to get things stable on high FSB so the bandwidth takes a hit
The 9200 kits is pretty good on P45 and if your set on OCZ then thats the kit I would grab
Older vers of Corsair Dominators would be a better choice if you can find them vers 1.1 or 1.2 were the best and worked very well with the board.



http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../TEST4_505.png

I can use recent versions of the BIOS Rampage Formula in P5E without problems? For example, the 0902?

I'm trying to reach 600FSB with my E8500 and Zucker's settings aren't cutting it. I'm guessing VTT and GTL REF are key, should I need more than 1.35VTT real? Should CPU GTL be set to 0.63x as per specs or should I try higher? NB GTL? Zucker only needed 1.58 VMCH but I've seen others go as high as 1.71 VMCH. Lots of factors here, just looking for some settings for other people that have reached the plateau to give me an idea of where to get started. I know I probably won't be able to use someone else's setting exactly but it'd be a launching point.

Hey guys,

I just received my Q9550 E0, after getting my E8400 to 4.55Ghz on 1.48v with all of your help I am back to report how this oc is going.

So far voltage isnt great at all, 1.30 volt idle and 1.256v stressed on stock speed. (worst ever? lol)

Strange enough this chip does 425FSB without any other changes then disabling static read control and both spread spectrum settings.

Any opinions on how far I will get? (I have a s-1283 aircooler with very old, recycled paste so will get better temps later)

I should be able to cool to +- 1.4v.

Ok, seems the chip aint 2 bad, yesterday I got it to 444x8.5 on just about the same voltage; 1.26v stressed/1.320v idle. I cant go higher because the other dividers (fsb/mem) suck at overclocking.
In my experience the only good ones r 333 and 400 strap, the other suck for me, dont no why.
(for example: If I run my mem under spec or wayyyy under spec its not stable on 3.9Ghz even tho 3.8 is stable as a rock... Exact same problem as with my E8400.)

My guestion now is; whats the fastest ram going in the maximus formula? I have DDR2-8500 dominators now but I need about 1200Mhz I think to get 500FSB on the same strap.

But the maximus is rated for 1066Mhz ram, can it handle 1200Mhz? which is best/ most compatible with the maximus?

Thanks in advance

Is OCZ Blade Low-Voltage OCZ2B1150LV4GK good for maximus formula? Or will it stress the mem controller to much? (Its rated 1.85volt)

I would think those Dominators are good. I think there other better to answer this though (Grnfinger). I'm thinking I have heard the 45NM Chips (Q9550) don't play well over 425 or 450 on this board. Might want to think about a different MB.

Is that FSB wall only with quads? Cuz my E8400 runs fine on 533*8 (4.55Ghz) on 1:1 divider :(
I thought 500 would be easy as the highest boot for the E8400 was 550FSB or sumtin...

I'm not getting a new mobo for S775, then ill get a 1156 and a Corei5 and get it to 4.5+ghz xD

EDIT:VID is bad after all

I cant get passed 455FSB stable under 1.280 vcore stressed.

GTL settings on my mobo r kinda lame, cuz Maximus Formula only has 4 options for cpugtl: (I have bios 0701 from rampage formula, should I get the latest 1?)
0.62x (no POST), 0.63x (no POST), 0.65x (no Boot), 0.67x (OK)
And for the NB 8 options, but all settings lower then 0.63x is unstable en doesnt let windows boot. (only remaining setting is 0.67x)

This is what's breaking my head:
I can boot and stress mildly (IBT 512mb) @ 470FSB with;
cpuv;1.375 / 1.280 (all variations are less stable)
pl:1.52 bios, reads 1.60 (all variations are less stable)
nbv;1.61 ( (lower volts here is less stable, higher no effect))
FSBTv;1.36 / 1.26 (1.36/1.38 seems best here, higher, lower bad effect)
nbgtl;0.63 cpugtl;0.67 (c above)
Common performance level:10/9 (444FSB can go on 7 stable)
940Mhz +5-5-5-18 2.1v!! <-- This is what I do not understand, why does my RAM need so much volts? Is the NB to stressed?

940Mhz +5-5-5-15 2.1v <--This is lower then spec = no boot windows

Ram spec: 1066+5-5-5-15/2.1v of 1066+5-5-5-18/1.8v standaard


Or IS the the absolut limit? Temps are good, NB 40 stressed, CPU about 60.

btw, Ik have Corsair XMS2 ram. (and raising volts didnt help anymore after 2.1)

Got it. :D

It was the Load Line Calibration, that needed to be enabled this time. Weird cuz on 444FSB it had to be on auto and on 455FSB it had to be disabled.

So now I have 470FSB looking stable, only it gets 2 hot so I cant stress harder :( (71degrees with IBT max stress 1x, 69degrees when 10x512mb IBT stress)

I made it with these settings:
8.5x477FSB
Strap:AUTO
DDR2-941MHZ 5-5-5-18 @ 2.0v
static read control: disabled
AI Clock Twister:auto
AI Transaction Booster:auto
CPU:1.350v bios / 1.336 cpuz load and idle(still lowering, not done finetuning)
PLL:1.52v bios / 1.600 real
NB:1.61v bios / 1.616 real
FSBT:1.38v bios / 1.280 real
both GTL and Skew settings are set to auto.

EDIT:OCCT large data set still gives error after 30 min :( I did set the ram back to spec: 5-5-5-15@2.1v. CPUv had to e increased to 1.368 as well....

Now Im really close to 100% stable :D
OCCT ran for an hour larga data set and IBT ran max as always. My quess about the ram was right, didnt change much in the end:

Strap:AUTO
DDR2-940 MHZ 5-5-5-18 @ 1.8 v bios / 1.878 real
static read control: disabled
AI Clock Twister:auto (tweaking this after max FSB is found)
AI Transaction Booster:auto
CPU:1.368v bios / 1.352 cpuz load and idle
PLL:1.52v bios / 1.600 real
NB:1.61v bios / 1.616 real
FSBT:1.38v bios / 1.280 real
both GTL and Skew settings are set to auto.
(maybe now I can finetune these and get lower vcore)

OCCT is running for 100 minutes now, I guess its time to go higher FSB xD

http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/27...TABLEsmall.jpg

Thanks for the settings grnfinger! (only saw your mess today so Ill test it this evening and report back this evening)

Just wanted to say that I really love xtremesystems, especially the forums, you guys know so much I never stop learning and I really appreciate the effort+info!

Best achieved yesterday was 490*8.5 bootable and light stressable, Intel Burn Test 5x 512m = 40%, starting to get there...

Yesterday I got error in OCCT all of a sudden, but I got it stable for 6+ Hours now:
changed:
strap:333 and CPUSkew:delay 100pico and NBskew:normal

http://i29.tinypic.com/kbsqxh.jpg

Mine :D on a P5E with RF bios 0403

Anyone still sporting a Q6600 or Q6700?

Hello boys!!!

Well I got a problem with my OC.

My rig:

E8400
Maximus Formula x38 (BIOS 1302)
2x2GB G.Skill Pi Edition 1000Mhz
XFX8800GTS (G92)
PSU Powercooler 850W

Cooling system: Swiftech Apex ultra h2o + MCW60

My problem is that I can´t get a stable OC, I think that my problem is the ram. Because I run a Orthos thread for more than 3 hours and was rock solid (Just stress the CPU, NO RAM).

The CPU 8400 is now at 3.6Ghz with 1.296 - 1.304 Vcore in CPU-Z.
Im running my system a 1:1 and my FSB is 400MHZ.
My temp are ok in full load I get 50ºc.
The thing is wen I stress the ram I get a blue screan and a reboot, olso wen I play a game I get a blue screen.
What Im doing wrong?
The Vdimm is 2.08
CPU PLL: 1.52
NB Volt: 1.47

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Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLE
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.31250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLE
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : AUTO

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That Im doing wrong??? :shakes::shakes:

What BIOS you using?
If you run at stock setting exept for the RAM Voltage (you should always set it) will it still blue screen? Try testing your RAM with Memtest86. If it fails pull on stick out and try it. Then try the other stick. Only one should be bad. If both are bad see if someone else can test them in there system. And/Or try different slots.

Memtest86
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

I already try the memtest86 and I get 0 errors....

My actual bios is 1320 and I change some settings, no all. Some I let it on AUTO!!!!

Try changing "FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO" to 333 or 400, and set your DRAM Frequency to no higher then 1066.

@ShArKo;
My E8400 E0 needed almost no changing settings for 400FSB on my maximus Formula, but I did flash it to Rampage formula using XS forum. (It has a bad vid and I got it to 533FSB stable with latest rampage bios)

I would suggest setting your ram to spec and note that the maximus overvolts most ram by 0.8 volts, so check the reads in hardware monitor in the bios to set them correctly.

The gtl settings werent needed untill 450-480 fsb, so I suggest you leave them auto for this small oc.

GTLS-> both auto (cpu shouldnt need tuning till higher fsb)
NB -> try to 1.49
Ram -> set to spec (say spec is 1000mhz 5-5-5-15@2.1v, you set 1000mhz 2.02v ; reads +-2.096v, this will be 5:6 if im not mistaking)
FSBT: auto (wasnt needed tuning on my rig till much higher fsb)

Maybe it helps, at least the rampage bios gives much more stability.

What would you like to get as result? Im asking because I remember that whatever was needed to tune 425FSB, my lessons didnt help getting 500FSB stable as I kept running into different, more complex problems then the ones I had when getting 425FSB stable...

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Originally Posted by ShArKo

I already try the memtest86 and I get 0 errors....

My actual bios is 1320 and I change some settings, no all. Some I let it on AUTO!!!!

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Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Try changing "FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO" to 333 or 400, and set your DRAM Frequency to no higher then 1066.

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Any luck?

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Originally Posted by ShawnTRD

Try changing "FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO" to 333 or 400, and set your DRAM Frequency to no higher then 1066.

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Well I change the FSB Strap to 400Mhz and just for now it´s working....

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Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer

@ShArKo;
My E8400 E0 needed almost no changing settings for 400FSB on my maximus Formula, but I did flash it to Rampage formula using XS forum. (It has a bad vid and I got it to 533FSB stable with latest rampage bios)
Mi VID is 1.2250 is it bad? :shakes:

I would suggest setting your ram to spec and note that the maximus overvolts most ram by 0.8 volts, so check the reads in hardware monitor in the bios to set them correctly.
Well right now I set 2.10 Vdimm but I set the DDR Reference to:

DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

The gtl settings werent needed untill 450-480 fsb, so I suggest you leave them auto for this small oc.
Ok I will change that

GTLS-> both auto (cpu shouldnt need tuning till higher fsb)
NB -> try to 1.49
Ram -> set to spec (say spec is 1000mhz 5-5-5-15@2.1v, you set 1000mhz 2.02v ; reads +-2.096v, this will be 5:6 if im not mistaking)
FSBT: auto (wasnt needed tuning on my rig till much higher fsb)

Maybe it helps, at least the rampage bios gives much more stability.

So, you say that can be better if I do the mod to Rampage?

What would you like to get as result? Im asking because I remember that whatever was needed to tune 425FSB, my lessons didnt help getting 500FSB stable as I kept running into different, more complex problems then the ones I had when getting 425FSB stable...

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Well What I want is 450MHZ or 500MHZ

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Any luck?

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I let you know later :p



Thanks for all the help you guys!!!! Right now Im at work, so well I come back home I will try this thinks!

Your vid aint to bad, my vid was 1.26v and it needed about 1.325v for 4Ghz. (and 1.48v load, 1.50v bios for 4.55Ghz)

Yes, the rampage bios gives more oc headroom.
(read the maximus to rampage thread for more info about this, you can read all my oc questions and answers there)
Real easy, just get the files they say you need and boot from usb flash drive and flash mobo to new bios. (reset bios before doing this and disconnect non needed usb hardware attached to the pc)

I think if your cooling is up for it, you can get 500Mhz stable, would be a nice 1:1 oc. Try to get 500fsb to boot windows, even if it crashed during boot you still have a starting point. My best experience is to start off with a fsb you like to get stable and work your way through all the settings. Main reason for this is that you can immediatly note the effects of changing certain settings to higher values and are able to make sure you are changing the (most)relevant settings.

In my experience most important values for stability;
CPU Voltage : 1.31250 (you will need more for 500fsb, i guess +-1.4-1.45)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 (should be good, since the maximus makes that a 1.6)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41 (will need to be higer for 500fsb, guess; 1.49-1.59)
DRAM Voltage : 2.08 (check spec)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32 (will need to be higher for 500fsb, guess;1.38-1.44)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 (had no impact for me on any oc ever on raid 0)
Loadline Calibration : ENABLE (had to be enabled for me as well)
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X (this was the best setting for me but try all options)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X (this was the best setting for me but try all options)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO (never had to touch this setting)
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO (never had to touch this setting)
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO (never had to touch this setting)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50 (had no impact for me on any oc ever on raid 0)

Maybe this gives you a windows boot 500FSB, Im kinda curious to read whats needed for 500fsb on your chip. Good luck!

my e8500 ended up needing 1.49 cpu voltage and 1.40 fsbt voltage for 475 x 9.5 on the mf 1302 bios.. it would not boot 500x anything on that bios.. it started out needing 1.475 in bios then after a while i had to up it a little because it started to not be stable.. maybe it degraded a little or the ram was starting to crap out because a little after that i lost 2 sticks.. after i installed the water cooling i forgot to put a fan over the ram. i had one over my nb and ram before to keep them cool so i kind of blew it.. anyway i recently did the rampage bios conversion again for the heck of it.. it is at 4.0 cpu 1.30 bios and fsbt a little lower, no problems until i get some new ram to play with. i would like to get a e8600 to go along with the ram.. then i will start to post more on it..

gamer you got you bios settings for hitting 4, as i am at 3.6 but its hit a wall in stability

19*12 gamer Thank you very much. I flash my BIOS to Rampage Formula BIOS so I will try to get a better OC than before. I hope this works... jejeje
I will star with FSB 400mhz and 1:1. I think with 1.3v Vcore It will be more than fine to get 3.6Ghz....

Well guys.......bad news......at least for me...
I flash my Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula but I got the fu$#"$#" same problemas as before. What Im doing wrong? Theres another setting that never see before (timming setting)... Can anybody help me to configure my bios ??? I will show you people how I configured the bios and you can tell me what Im doing wrong!!!!

THanks.

what is your problem?, your sig shows a e8400 running at 475 FSB
what are you trying to achieve?
I have clocked 6 chips on this board all did 500FSB or better

I've got a new problem.

Got my system stable a few months ago at 3.6Ghz with my GeForce 8800GTS. Will run 3DMark, passes prime....etc.

Today, I swapped out my video card for an ASUS Radeon 3870 X2 1GB. When I run 3DMark 2006, it gets to the dragon boat scene, gets 3/4 of the way through it and then a black screen.

If I play COD5, I can play it for 10 minutes or so, then I get a screen of vertical aqua and red lines.

Both situations require a hard reboot.

I have tried bumping FSB voltage. FSB term voltage, CPU PLL voltage....etc. Each individually of course. And none of my adjustments seem to be able to get me past this exact point in 3DMark.

I am running 450x8 using the 400 strap. The rest of my settings are the same as they were before (already posted in this thread).

Help? :D

Put everything to stock, run 3Dmark and play 20min of CoD.

If it crashes, you have a faulty GPU, if not, then the new card is stressing your NB out more which is perfectly acceptable, I had the same problem from 1 GTX280 to a GTX295.

Small voltage increase to the NB fixed it for me.

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Put everything to stock, run 3Dmark and play 20min of CoD.

If it crashes, you have a faulty GPU, if not, then the new card is stressing your NB out more which is perfectly acceptable, I had the same problem from 1 GTX280 to a GTX295.

Small voltage increase to the NB fixed it for me.

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Was hoping you weren't going to suggest that! DARG!

Just bugs me that it worked fine with the 8800, but I understand that this card does draw more juice, and likely moves more data through the NB.

I will try it and post back.

FWIW, I bumped up the NB voltage to 1.65 (it is at 1.51 right now) and it didn't help.

Tried stock-clocks, didn't fix it :(

I am trying the drivers from ASUS for the card now instead of the ATI reference drivers.

I will update with the results.

ASUS drivers made no difference. I'm assuming the card is FUBAR. RMA time.

Wow I'm surprised this thread still going, but it's time to say goodbye to my beloved Maximus Formula for the new X58. :) Couldn't be happier when I got my Q6600 running at 3.6Ghz, I can boot at 3.8Ghz but it's not stable. This board is totally worth every penny when I decided to get it when it first came out.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Pink

what is your problem?, your sig shows a e8400 running at 475 FSB
what are you trying to achieve?
I have clocked 6 chips on this board all did 500FSB or better

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Yes I know, but this is a old signature :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Maybe I shoud edit it

overkill i had issues with my power supply and hd3870 cards.. i had a ultra x3 1000,, full new build on everything my cards crashed no matter what i tried, every possible fix or trick i could google up and a few different 3870 bios and i even installed my brothers 8800 and it ran fine, put my 3870 back in and crash.. one two either or and both cards it was strange.. eventually swaped out my psu to a corsair tx850 and it worked fine after that.. not saying that is your problem but if you have a extra psu you might want to try it before you pull all your hair out.. also check to see if your psu is certified to run on that card.. yada yada i know a psu is a psu,, i thought i had plenty power to power my cards with the x3 1k, that is why i bought it but i had issues..since then that x3 went in a few different builds for testing and ran fine with different cards just not my 3870's..

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overkill i had issues with my power supply and hd3870 cards.. i had a ultra x3 1000,, full new build on everything my cards crashed no matter what i tried, every possible fix or trick i could google up and a few different 3870 bios and i even installed my brothers 8800 and it ran fine, put my 3870 back in and crash.. one two either or and both cards it was strange.. eventually swaped out my psu to a corsair tx850 and it worked fine after that.. not saying that is your problem but if you have a extra psu you might want to try it before you pull all your hair out.. also check to see if your psu is certified to run on that card.. yada yada i know a psu is a psu,, i thought i had plenty power to power my cards with the x3 1k, that is why i bought it but i had issues..since then that x3 went in a few different builds for testing and ran fine with different cards just not my 3870's..

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That's some great advice!

What I DID try last night was wiring it up to its own PSU (only a 250W one) to see if that would make a difference. It didn't. Crashes at the EXACT SAME SPOT every time.

Quite bizarre really. I'm using the card right now, it works just fine until I start to tax it with gaming or run 3DMark. And even then, it WILL game for a good 10 minutes before having a stroke.

I don't have a spare PSU here. Current one is a Thermaltake ToughPower 680W one, I've never had issues with it, but I won't rule it out as a possibility for sure.

I was just going to RMA the card ;)

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Yes I know, but this is a old signature :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Maybe I shoud edit it

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might be a good idea I know its alot of effort but hey

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Originally Posted by OVERK|LL

That's some great advice!

What I DID try last night was wiring it up to its own PSU (only a 250W one) to see if that would make a difference. It didn't. Crashes at the EXACT SAME SPOT every time.

Quite bizarre really. I'm using the card right now, it works just fine until I start to tax it with gaming or run 3DMark. And even then, it WILL game for a good 10 minutes before having a stroke.

I don't have a spare PSU here. Current one is a Thermaltake ToughPower 680W one, I've never had issues with it, but I won't rule it out as a possibility for sure.

I was just going to RMA the card ;)

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Will the card crash at random or only when running 3d apps?
you might want to look at the temps as well ..... unless your PSU is dying it should be more than enough for that card.
I ran a 3870X2 on my Corsair 620 now I'm running a 4870X2 on the same PSU, are you using the dedicated 6 pin or the molex adapter?

Couple of things to try...PCIE frequency, try 101 to 105
up your SB volts a notch or 2

Well guys........Im runing my system at FSB 425Mhz, my rams 850Mhz (1:1) and my Vcore is 1.386 (Windows-CPU-Z) and in BIOS 1.4V.
The thing is that I can play games with no problem and run aplications, but wen I run a Prime95 or a Orthos strees I got a reboot.

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might be a good idea I know its alot of effort but hey



Will the card crash at random or only when running 3d apps?
you might want to look at the temps as well ..... unless your PSU is dying it should be more than enough for that card.
I ran a 3870X2 on my Corsair 620 now I'm running a 4870X2 on the same PSU, are you using the dedicated 6 pin or the molex adapter?

Couple of things to try...PCIE frequency, try 101 to 105
up your SB volts a notch or 2

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ONLY when running 3D apps. And it isn't instant. It takes a while.

I can't see temps being an issue, the side is off the case right now, and the card isn't getting hot.

The PSU has two dedicated 6-pin connectors, and I have both of them hooked up to it.

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Originally Posted by ShArKo

Well guys........Im runing my system at FSB 425Mhz, my rams 850Mhz (1:1) and my Vcore is 1.386 (Windows-CPU-Z) and in BIOS 1.4V.
The thing is that I can play games with no problem and run aplications, but wen I run a Prime95 or a Orthos strees I got a reboot.

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you've tested the ram ( each stick separately ) with memtest and it passed?

Can you post your current bios setup or paste the link if you've already done so?

I have 6 E8400 setups from 3.825GHz all the way to 4.5GHz
Have 4.4GHz stable but 4.5 I could bench just not get her 24/7 stable
If you have a decent chip you can get 3.8/4.0GHz maybe more with decent cooling..

sounds a lot like what i experienced.. is that a 15 amp 12 volt rail on that psu? if so that could be your problem..

hi

my speaking english is bad:D

my motherboard is Maximus Formula ( Rampage Formula Converted ) and 902 Bios .

i want to overclock My Q9550 E0 :

what FSB for 24/7 for X38 and What temp for this FSB in 24/7 and what divider for this profile is good ?! ( My memory is Curucial Ballstix - can stable 1150 5-5-5-18 ) ?

tanks

no any body help me ?!:eek:
Please .... :shocked:

Try to fill in via this template, if you look in this thread you will see numerous OC's. You need to do something yaself too :)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency :
FSB Strap to North Bridge :
PCI-E Frequency:
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control:
Ai Clock Twister :
Transaction Booster :

CPU Voltage :
CPU PLL Voltage :
North Bridge Voltage :
DRAM Voltage :
FSB Termination Voltage :
South Bridge Voltage :
Loadline Calibration :
CPU GTL Reference :
North Bridge GTL Reference :
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

mr how are you ? :-w

my question is :

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what FSB for 24/7 for X38 and What temp for this FSB in 24/7

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are you see ?!!!

Well try 400FSB for starters and see how it goes, 450FSB is doable with proper tweaking for sure... Learn the motherboard and look into the thread for some setups... Just keep ya CPU sub 70°C when under full load and you will be fine...

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mr how are you ? :-w

my question is :


are you see ?!!!

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Maximus seems to be FSB limited when running a 45nm quad...
Most ppl get 425-430FSB b4 the wall, there are a few rare exceptions that will go beyond this wall but I have not seen many...

Here is a decent place to start

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.55
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...table_3825.jpg

ok

this motherboard not very good for ocing this cpu !

i will buy a new motherboard for this job ! ( maximus II Formula )

tanks

That's silly, why not give the mobo a go ? and for your info the MF II Formula ain't that good either... far easier is the P5Q Dlx or the Giga P45 UD3P...

Just give the old lady a chance, clock for clock it will beat the crap out of the P45's

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That's silly, why not give the mobo a go ? and for your info the MF II Formula ain't that good either... far easier is the P5Q Dlx or the Giga P45 UD3P...

Just give the old lady a chance, clock for clock it will beat the crap out of the P45's

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I own the Max X38 the Rampage X48 and the MIIF P45 and your correct
the X38 and X48 boards will kick the snot out of the P45 and the MIIF is a fussy lady on high FSB....Where the other 2 love high FSB and not to mention the bandwidth is choked on the P45 compared to the otehr platforms

Off topic but I see your Madshrimps sig Lee
Sorry to hear about Liquid3D passing away

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Well try 400FSB for starters and see how it goes, 450FSB is doable with proper tweaking for sure... Learn the motherboard and look into the thread for some setups... Just keep ya CPU sub 70°C when under full load and you will be fine...

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I've been playing around with various bios versions, Maximus and Rampage. Somehow I've never been able to reach the same clockspeed, being 414x9, on the Rampage versions. I'm kind of stuck on 412x9, which of course, isn't a big thing :)
I do notice that my temperatures are kind of high on the southbridge, the northbridge and the cpu. Significantly higher on one of the Rampage bios versions compared to the Maximus counterparts.

At this point I'm running on Rampage bios 803 and here are my settings that I can't seem to get stable:

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Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 414
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333Mhz
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 995Mhz (Slightly underclocked)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : A
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : A

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

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I mentioned my temps being rather high, so here they are. They are under full load of 4 instances of SPPrime. I also did the pencil trick mentioned in the OP.
CPU: 69°C (or that's as far as it goes)
NB: 65°C (same as above)

I can't get it to run on 4 instances of SPPrime for one minute. I break 68°C - 69°C in around 30 secs and that's where it crashes. OCCT runs for hours though, northbridge temp is similar, CPU temp is at least 6°C lower at full peak. OCCT correctly detects 4 cores so I assume it tests all 4.

The CPU is on water with dual Rad as noted in sig. Ambient temps are rather high though, this is a hot summer for the Brussels area.

Personally I'm not convinced I need that much voltage on the NB, certainly with that much heat, however I do think the instability is caused by CPU overheat. Hence I assume your threshold set at 70°C is more or less relative? :)

I never really tried getting a higher FSB out of the system, with the northbridge as hot as it is.
I also thought about getting a chipset block, but then I read the process of removing the stock heatsink and botched. I might look at it again in due time, if I feel like it. Now I need my rig to get some work done first.

Any thoughts on my setup is greatly appreciated :)

Cheers

your NB temps are going to be an issue, and yes you'll need volts for teh NB.
Most stable setups are running 1.45 or higher, I need 1.53 for stability mind you I run 478FSB

8X450 runing the 333 strap would be a better choice imo, the 100MHz you lose will be offset by the higher FSB and improved bandwidth.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

I don't know about 8x450Mhz. The NB will become a heavier factor in the equation. I am going to try and see what happens of course.
I also notice that many are running the PCI-E frequency at 110Mhz instead of 100Mhz. Is there any specific reason for that?

Just ordered an ASUS HD4890 1GB for this beast to replace my defective 3870 X2. Also ordered a Corsair 750W PSU to replace my Thermaltake 680W one. Interested to see the improvement in 3DMark with the new card.

I will be interested to see that as well

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I don't know about 8x450Mhz. The NB will become a heavier factor in the equation. I am going to try and see what happens of course.
I also notice that many are running the PCI-E frequency at 110Mhz instead of 100Mhz. Is there any specific reason for that?

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you could run 4xxX9 that would allow for PL6 and take some stress off the NB
Have you remounted your NB block, the crap Asus uses for tim is rather sad, temps improve greatly if you re do the tim.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Pink

you could run 4xxX9 that would allow for PL6 and take some stress off the NB
Have you remounted your NB block, the crap Asus uses for tim is rather sad, temps improve greatly if you re do the tim.

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4xxX9 is what I'm running, right? Or I'm missing something in your statement :)

I was about to order a waterblock for the NB until I read the guide explaining the hassle of removing the stock heatsink. I'd have to get everything out of my case, get some decent cleaning material and spend some time doing the whole process. I'd call me lazy but the thing is that I really need this rig running atm ^^

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ASUS drivers made no difference. I'm assuming the card is FUBAR. RMA time.

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OK, 3870 X2 is out, 4890 is in.

4890 benches JUST FINE in this rig. So it was definitely the card. Unfortunate.

Gained 637 points swapping out the 8800GTS to the 4890. Going to try and break 18K with it hopefully.

Hey guys. While way back when I had planned on this build to be my first WC rig I just never got a round tuit - going to do that on the next build instead. I'd like to spend a modest amount of $$ to upgrade from the stock Intel HSF on my Q9450 to something better but want to make sure it FITS the mobo without a lot of fin bending or cap nudging. The stock HSF shouldn't be so bad but I find that extended runs at high utilization really spike the temps - I suspect it's partly due to my inability to effectively cinch the sucker down with that goofy push-pin system.

I recognize that the TRUE is among the ne plus ultra of air-cooled HSF's but was hoping to spend something less (and save the $$ for my WC parts) yet still get solid, improved, cooling over what I have now.

Scanning through the thread I see, from the .sig's, that most that don't WC like the TRUE (no surprise). Hoping to get some real world feedback on other solutions that fit this board without a big hassle. Specifically it would be great to know if, say, the Sunbeam CCF fits well (or something similar). NewEgg is currently selling that for $39.99 with a $15 rebate for a net (eventually) of only $25.

Thanks guys.

Hello friends,

I have a P5E , naturally x38 and there are some months that I am using the flashed bios 0401 of the Rampage Formula...


Lately I am doing some test with windows 7 x64 and I have noticed that I cannot boot windows with the same overclock setting... no I have 444mhz x9 so I have 4000mhz , with XP SP3 Pro .. with windows 7 x64, I cannot enter in windows .. at default I can, but if I overclock, i have big problems..

do you have some advices ? and anyway, do you think that I can overclock more my system ?

I have 2x2gb corsair and 2x1gb crucial


ps: in the first post I read about bios P5E --> rampage formula


3: Download the bios of your choice:
0207
0214
0219
0308
0401
0403


but I know that there are newest bios... what do you advice me? if i try to flash the latest bios of rampage formula, I will have problem or damages ?

thanks!! :)

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Maximus seems to be FSB limited when running a 45nm quad...
Most ppl get 425-430FSB b4 the wall, there are a few rare exceptions that will go beyond this wall but I have not seen many...

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I've had a big dilemma but you solved it for me. Right now I have E6750 but I want to get a quad core for Windows 7.

I was think about getting Q9550 and overcloking the hell out of it but based on what you said that is not gonna happen. 420 fsb would get me only 8.5*420 = 3570mhz.
I think I am better off buying a new platform with Intel i7 920 and clocking it to 4ghz. It will cost me only about £250 more than getting Q9500
(it is a long story that would involve getting a new 775 mobo so I could use it with E6750 as a media pc).

So right now it looks like my Maximus and E6750 will be relegated to a media pc instead...

koli.fx all u need to do to get higher FBS on MF is.
Rampage bios 0902 , E0 q9550, 1.60-1.65 on NB and low temp below 55c.., GTL 63x 67x, some skills and patience. FBS475 stable X8.5 is not bad for old mobo.

here ya go with maximus SE and rampage bios 0902 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=715832

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here ya go with maximus SE and rampage bios 0902 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=715832

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Hey man, nice OC ;)

Could you do us (and me :p:) a favour and post your settings for that one?

Thanks

Does anybody have the settings for E8400@4.0Ghz or 4.2Ghz? I got my E8400 up to 4.2Ghz with the Asus P5K Pro but still trying to figure out the settings for my Maximus Formula.
EDIT: Nvm, got it up to 4.0Ghz stable, now aiming for 4.2Ghz. :D

I'm having a major issue getting stable over 470 fsb with my Q6600 on my maximus 2 formula i could do 490 no problem but this board wont do it( maximus se/rampage) ive been looking though this thread but need help with skews and gtl ref settings. please

i think some of these boards are kind of tricky to get those higher fsb's.. some of them go right up there. mine kind of shut the door at 475 with my e8500,, even on lower multi's trying all the tricks i could find here.. my old e6850 would not even get close to 450 fsb on this same board..

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i think some of these boards are kind of tricky to get those higher fsb's.. some of them go right up there. mine kind of shut the door at 475 with my e8500,, even on lower multi's trying all the tricks i could find here.. my old e6850 would not even get close to 450 fsb on this same board..

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+1, I couldn't even get past 420 when I had my Q6600 and since I just switch to the E8400 I can hit 450 easily and still going. I guess it also depends on the CPU you have, once you hit the FSB wall then you're stuck with it.

It seems that I installed a waterblock for the northbridge after all. I used a non-conventional and noobish method to remove the stock heatsink. It's not very hard, it just takes a little bit more time. Here's how I did it.
I bought a waterblock and started to remove the screws on the NB and SB. I couldn't get the thing off, it just wouldn't budge, not even after using a hairdryer to heat it up. So I decided to just screw it back on however I couldn't quite get the screws back on the NB although the backplate was still in place. I decided to just leave it like that and get it up and running again to get some work done. A few days later playing a game my system powered down by itself, the northbridge was at 79°C :eek:
So it seems if you have enough patience, the whole thing will come off by itself effortlessly hehe :D :shakes:

After attaching the NB waterblock, which is an AQ Twinplex XT DI btw, the northbridge hasn't reached 40°C. The Southbridge is naked though but its temp doesn't seem all that different.
I'll be playing around with it some more, that's for sure :)

Hey,

So with the new waterblock I'm currently running the settings below. The CPU goes up to 64°C, the NB doesn't reach 43°C.
OCCT crashes after 15 minutes, everything else seems to run fine including 3Dm06 twice. Any idea's?

edit: I can't say I need a lot more voltage to pull off 450+ on the FSB compared to 410+ Perhaps I might just need a bit more voltage, but the cpu temp won't get any better from it.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 463
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400Mhz
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-926Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.42
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.55
South Bridge Voltage : A
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : A

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

wolf are you using the reapers still? i put some flex in mine and it boots right up and auto detects it at the rated settings.. not like my crucials,, they would not even post bios until i put another set in to change the bios voltage and settings then switch them in.. try setting your ram settings to close to their rated settings and set their voltage instead of leaving it at auto because these boards over volt the ram.. if they are 1066 try to get them close to it on the 400 or 333 strap.. 5,5,5,18 and leave the other sub timings on auto for now.. try change dram static to enabled, ai clock twister to strong, trans booster to disabled, relax 0. guessing it is the maximus bios with those settings you posted.... think you should be at a performance level of 7 there.. i like pl 7.. i can set it in the rampage bios easy..i would run some tests with the cpu at stock and get the memory stable at their rated settings or very close to them to make sure they are not causing any issues first.. a couple passes of prime 95 blend or memtest will give you a good idea.. i am not to familiar with the q6600, my brother had one and i watched him play with it a little.. i think the cpu voltage may need to be a little higher a couple clicks up and test if it drops a core up a little more re test, i think on cpu voltage 1.52 real and fsbt voltage can come down a little,, i think 1.48 on that, again it is not in front of me so i am guessing.. since i think i read you have water you should be fine.. watch the temps,, try prime 95 blend.. on mine occt gets like 10 degrees higher loaded temps and sometimes crashes when i can p95 it all day and all night on blend under 64 degrees..

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Originally Posted by loften

wolf are you using the reapers still? i put some flex in mine and it boots right up and auto detects it at the rated settings.. not like my crucials,, they would not even post bios until i put another set in to change the bios voltage and settings then switch them in.. try setting your ram settings to close to their rated settings and set their voltage instead of leaving it at auto because these boards over volt the ram.. if they are 1066 try to get them close to it on the 400 or 333 strap.. 5,5,5,18 and leave the other sub timings on auto for now.. try change dram static to enabled, ai clock twister to strong, trans booster to disabled, relax 0. guessing it is the maximus bios with those settings you posted.... think you should be at a performance level of 7 there.. i like pl 7.. i can set it in the rampage bios easy..i would run some tests with the cpu at stock and get the memory stable at their rated settings or very close to them to make sure they are not causing any issues first.. a couple passes of prime 95 blend or memtest will give you a good idea.. i am not to familiar with the q6600, my brother had one and i watched him play with it a little.. i think the cpu voltage may need to be a little higher a couple clicks up and test if it drops a core up a little more re test, i think on cpu voltage 1.52 real and fsbt voltage can come down a little,, i think 1.48 on that, again it is not in front of me so i am guessing.. since i think i read you have water you should be fine.. watch the temps,, try prime 95 blend.. on mine occt gets like 10 degrees higher loaded temps and sometimes crashes when i can p95 it all day and all night on blend under 64 degrees..

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Sorry, I thought I stated the bios version. It's the Rampage 803 bios I'm running. I just used the template from page 1, which is of course a Maximus version.

I am using those Reapers yes. The reason that they are stated in my sig as junk is because if i run them slightly over spec they start to get unstable.
I'm still using them because they are running under spec and I'm not really interested in heavy memory tweaking.
I'll give your suggestions a shot when I return from work. Thanks! :)

ok so then the trans booster would be set to manual and the common performance level to 7.. the rest might be doable with the voltages on cpu and fsbt and maybe some pull in tweaks.. i am still learning the rampage bios. this is my second go around with it.. i figured out my e8500 on the maximus bios to 4.5 stable but i lost a couple sticks of ram.. i just have it at 4.38 on the same rampage bios you have with out any real tweaks and as soon as i get a better set of memory again i will start playing with it a little more .. i could run 3 different sets of memory on those settings on the 333 or 400 strap on pretty much every bios i have tried.. 2 sets of 8500 and a set of 6400.. the 6400 would go up to 1081 the rest would go up to mid 1100's.. i wish i wouldn't have sold a few of them because right after i did i lost a pair of my balistix and i think my second pair is about done for too.. which is my fault for not installing my fan back over them after i water cooled my cpu and nb.. they did pretty well before that mistake..

Transaction booster set to manual and PL7 results in a no boot. Just as most of the PL settings do. Once the system rebooted at 2.16Ghz and the keyboard wouldn't respond. Of course a bios reset fixed all that, great convenience those bios reset buttons :)

I did set the FSB strap from 400Mhz to 333Mhz, clock twister to moderate and I upped the CPU PLL voltage to 1.8v (as suggested by Cadaveca listed in the OP). This is stable but I also notice a slight performance hit.
I'm now trying to get 466x8 stable but I'm in the same situation as before. Everything works but OCCT crashes after 10 minutes of testing.

ive got the se version and having problems with my boot up replace a q6600 for a q9650 when powering up it comes up with testcmos. Do i need to bios flash? if so how do i do it. or would asus do it if i send board to them??

Yes you need a bios that supports 45 nm chips.
there is a good guide to flashing bios in the first post under "Maximus / P5E to Rampage Conversion"
you dont have to convert to rampage it will work for any bios
i believe you need bios 1207 or higher

crud i forgot about this wolf.. anyway i wonder if your issues may be the board not liking the ram..

yep 460 fsb wall with my Q6600 i wonder if its the same with 45nm quads?? maybe ill just grab a Q6700 hell if i get 460 on that 10X460=4.6GHZ ill be happy

I managed to FUBAR my setup. I flashed back to Maximus to try the newest BIOS, was getting a plethora of DETRAM problems, so flashed back to Rampage, but didn't write down my previous settings.

Now I'm having fun getting it stable again. Though I am a lot closer now than I was yesterday, I can game and stuff without it rebooting.

I've currently got Vdroop disabled, so setting the base voltage significantly higher, because it seems that Vdroop is something Intel has designed to be used......

Also swapped out the RAM I had last week for another set of Ballistix, but haven't really tried to push them beyond 900Mhz, which is 1:1 for my current setup; 450x8, 400 strap.

Update:

Got it sorted out. Enabled LLC again, bumped voltage to 1.49 (1.48 actual) and its G2G.

Stupid question, in case somebody else has done this, and it would save me the time of messing with it if it isn't going to work:

I have 4x2GB Crucial Ballistix 800Mhz sticks. I noted that there is 500Mhz info for them at 2.0V using CPU-Z, so I'm thinking they should EASILY do 1,000Mhz. I can provide the stick numbers if necessary.

Now, I know that 8GB of RAM taxes the NB. I am running 1:1 right now (900Mhz) with them at 2V, but could go higher if the sticks will do it.... What is the highest anybody has gone in terms of memory clock, running 3.6Ghz on a Quad, on this board with 8GB of RAM?

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Originally Posted by loften

crud i forgot about this wolf.. anyway i wonder if your issues may be the board not liking the ram..

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Hey, no worries ;)

I have had a suspicion from the beginning that this ram wasn't the best I could have picked up for the price, hence the junk reference in the sig.

At this point I'm running 8x463Mhz with transaction booster on auto and on the 333Mhz FSB strap. However I have no idea what that does. Setting 400Mhz doesn't give me any different choices in the bios. However, ever since I set 333Mhz strap in the bios together with a CPU PLL voltage of 1.75v it's fully stable like this. Even with clock twister set to strong.
Adding 1 mhz on the FSB sets me back to the stability I had before. I guess I'm quite close to the limit of what this chip'll do without adding a lot of juice.

I'm not too unhappy with the result though :-)

I tried to get my E8200 500FSB+ but i cant get it stale on 500 FSB/ 4Ghz.

Someone got some ideas for me ?


E8200 ( 4,0Ghz )
Asus P5E ( RF 0902 bios )
4 Gb Crucial Ballistx tracer DDR2-800 ( 1000Mhz )
XFX HD 4890 Black Edition
Zalman HP 600 PSU

Cpu temps : idle 45, stressed 53.
CPU voltage : 1.38125 V
NB voltage : 1.31 V

Anyone try the new Maximus 1403 bios yet?

I installed the latest bios 1403 I had a q6600 stable at 3.4.
Over this weekend I picked up a retail Q9550 at a reasonable price and wanted to play with a new toy. I have it prime stable at 3.714 437x8.5 with a vcore of 1.23 and its great the temps are also very good 40c idle and roughly 63c prime. I have a question since I have very little vcore and excellent temps I tried to get it to 4.0ghz. But for whatever reason ITS A NO GO. Do all think this maybe a FSB limitation?
thx for all replys in advance.

Yes, it's a fsb limitation on the x38 chipset with regard to 45nm quads.

Tx for the quick reply.

well i have left my nb voltage on auto to see what it self sets to, and have gotten higher clocks investigating the nb voltage it self sets to 1.65v ++ so anyone having stability issues with quads and such try higher nb voltage

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Originally Posted by dionysus

I installed the latest bios 1403 I had a q6600 stable at 3.4.
Over this weekend I picked up a retail Q9550 at a reasonable price and wanted to play with a new toy. I have it prime stable at 3.714 437x8.5 with a vcore of 1.23 and its great the temps are also very good 40c idle and roughly 63c prime. I have a question since I have very little vcore and excellent temps I tried to get it to 4.0ghz. But for whatever reason ITS A NO GO. Do all think this maybe a FSB limitation?
thx for all replys in advance.

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Which revision is you board. Try Rampage bios 0802.

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Yes, it's a fsb limitation on the x38 chipset with regard to 45nm quads.

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I don't think so:
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=901734