Maximus X38 is 45nm quad limited, rare ocasions you'll break the 425-430FSB wall but I have not seen many chips do it, 425FSB was the max for my X38/Q9550Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Maximus X38 is 45nm quad limited, rare ocasions you'll break the 425-430FSB wall but I have not seen many chips do it, 425FSB was the max for my X38/Q9550Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Yah you need to turn that bad boy up a notch, If I actually used lod tweaks in 06 I might have yah with a single 512mb ;)
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/4050.JPG
Tisk Tisk :nono:
You coverd the res on that screen shot :rofl:
Some douche at HWBOT flag'd 3 of my submissions claiming that, now when I try to edit so I can add a validation link it wont let me:shrug:
So I responded with that 22k 3D run.
Going to do a few Vantage runs now at 500FSB,
HAve you tried CC 8.12? I'm still running 8.11 and wondering if there is a performance incease like they say.
thats 8.12, its worth a few points, I did a compare let me see if i can find it.
here' the compare link for that 19k ;) forgot about not covering res, its been awhile.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9627529
8.10 IIRC ( 8.11 caused FO3 to crash )
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9124834
8.12
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9183077
What tool is the best for Lod tweaking now, I haven't used Lod since geez 3d01 and my 9800 pro. I installed ati tool newest version and it loaded all my cores and my GPU and stopped responding :(
Well then no thanks! I'm stable at 475 with my Q6600. I suppose it's wiser to just wait until the i7s get cheaper anyhow (not to mention the motherboards......they're outrageous right now.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I put together a shopping card at newegg with an i7 CPU, 6GB of RAM, and a 'mid-range' ASUS mobo. The card was over $700.......I just can't justify that to the wife considering that I just spent $500 on my graphics card and $120 on my Perc 5/i RAID controller :ROTF:
WTF........that's insane. Have you tweaked anything, like turned down IQ in CCC? Are you running the default res? I ran mine at 4 GHz and got thisQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
BTW that's on Vista x64 so maybe that's hurting the score a little. IIRC there is a performance hit in 3dmark06 in Vista.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
8.12 seems not to like my card much, hard locks running Vantage and 3DMark05 when 8.11 did not at same settings....
3D06 is down a few hundred points compared to 8.11 run.
Guess its time to tear the loop apart and run the new card on ....air (ick)
Well maybe one more run on 8.11 to confirm my suspicions
nah thats at default high performance settings. I don't lose much between vista/xp :shrug: I ran out of slider bar for ram :( I need a bios that allows more :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Vista 64 + 4870x2 is your issue. I've seen this before, you will score alot higher in vista 32 and XP.
believe it or not if i set mitmap detail to high performance my score actually gets worse.
I got an ati tool version working and the Lod bias settings dont work, cant find where to set it in rivatuner and ati tray tools i'm lost. :(
Yea I don't benchmark much for competition, as I just want to make sure my system is running as it should be. I would like to take some time and chill my water loop, then overvolt like crazy......but sadly I don't have as much time since I started school again.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
BTW ATI Tool doesn't play well with the 4870X2....I would look around the driver level tweaks in Rivatuner.
I haven't had any issues with 8.12 in Vista x64 one bit. There is an annoying water artifact bug in Call of DUty World at War, where the border of puddles looks like it has frozen. This sort of flickers on and off at times. Not extremely noticeable, but still annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I found a pic:
http://ninjamonkeys.co.za/wp-content...1/shot0000.jpg
Holy hannah this cards fan is LOUD!!!!
Grn's pc was so nice and quiet you could hear my cats claws on the hardwood as he walks, not anymore :shakes:
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...870X2stock.jpg
Some benches to follow if I can stand the noise
Nice setup, Grn!!
Thanks Jack, I think I'm going to need a stronger PSU, seems I hardlock and then quicly reboot if I try anything over 875/1000 but its early, only been playing for hour or so, lots to learn.
I had a lot of trouble overclocking the 4870 X2 in the short time I had one.
What PSU are you running?
Corsair HX620...me thinks its a tad weak
looking at a HX1000 like yours
Q9550 @ 8.5x500FSB
4870X2 800/975
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...870_500FSB.jpg
Hmm...the 620 should do the job for a single 4870 X2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
ahh so it might be heat then
This pleases me....guess I got to decide on a block and soon
grn 4870 tips, not sure if you tried it but toss that fan to 100%, that ram should clock to the moon as long as you can keep the core temps down. Icreasing core increases over all temps, ram declines with higher core. aww screw it just get water on it lol.......
Anybody get good FSB OC w/ a Xeon X3350 or simular? I wanna keep my old MF bu want a good quad to OC on it since I too had very little luck w/ my Q9550 to barely get close to 430 and stable. I also have a good stable Q6600 to 3.8GHz but would like to go 45nm and maybe try an X48 for fun. Oh ja, if I do get an X48 DDR3 mobo, will it do anything signifigent for my Q6600 over what I can already do on my X38 DDR2 compared to what the Q9500 can do for me in terms of FSB OC on the X48?
If I have to stick w/ the Q9550, how much further can I expect on an X48 DDR3 version or this mobo? I'd be OK w/ the P5E3 Primeum as well if the cost has come down. I really had my eye on the Rampage Extreme when it came out. Will this do a 45nm quad fair justice and too how much if anybody can share?
what is the best bios for this mobo,original bios,not another.
thx,
I'm going to play today with it, My 3870X2 clock'd very high on water.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
This card pumps the heat, it's a frosty minus 15c here so I might open the window and cool the room down for some overclocking fun.
Lots to learn about this card atleast it will cut down on my heating cost for teh house:rofl:
Wifes got her eye on my 3870X2 :shakes:
0308 for memory bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by mit78
0701 for 3d benching/games.
grn, i'm debating on grabbing another 4870 and take a chance it will clock as high, if it does i can probably tip over some 4870x2's, although the brand new 4870x2 for $350 is very very tempting....plus after trifire scaling goes out the window.
You have vantage?
Coby,
Sorry for the delay, had to drive all day yesterday under terrible driving conditions. Needless to say, I was busted when I returned home. Anyway, here's a picture from this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ght=MCW60+4870 as mine were too difficult to get to. Yes, the x2's are loud and that's why I threw mine under water. Mind you, I couldn't get higher clocks on mine under water. Waiting for that super bios.
Edit: The difference in the picture below is that I just took off the shell so I didn't have to break anything. One guy in the thread also had a different method; check it out.
Yes I have Vantage, I was debating on a Crossfire setup with 2 4870's but then I factored in the waterblock cost and scrapped that idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Guess I should head over to the gpu section and educate myself on what others are achieving with this card. According to Gautam the bios is better than Asus TOP bios.
That looks damn good actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
So no ram sinks just the 2 MCW60's and the stock HS modded for the barbs?
Whats your max stable clocks on your card?
I'm currently testing that today, I might need some ear plugs from the noise
Pretty much. Max stable for GRID was 842/1000. The ram can do 1050 but I flashed the asus top and was limited to 1000. What's the max on your card? Can I have the bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Of course:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Let me find something that works with Vista, once I have the bios I'll pm you the link.
Has anyone had success running 4x4gb memory on the x38 by flashing to rampage or other bios,just wondering if 16gb @ 800 would show any realworld gain compared to 8gb @ 1000 ? I'm running rampage 410 bios right now with Q6600@3400 (on air) on 333 strap with 8gb gskill pc2 8000.Any and all input is welcome.
I would say just stick with your 8gb of 1000mhz ram, unless you really need all 16gb of memory for whatever use you have for it... ;) 1000Mhz ram gives you more bandwidth than 800Mhz, and considering you already have a large amount of ram which probably does not get fully utilized, your system would probably slow down a little (prolly only noticeable in benches though) compared to your current setup...Quote:
Originally Posted by RAINMAN2004
OH, and on another note, I'm currently running the system in my sig (Q9550 E0 + P5E dlx --> rampage). I'm currently busy getting the 4Ghz rocksolid and tweaked, and for some strange reason I cannot lower my performance level to below 9 or the PC won't even post anymore. When using PL9, Vantage crashes on me so I'm currently forced to use PL10. Obviously I would like to be able to lower this, especially as I'm forced to run my GSkills at only 471Mhz, but was just wondering what the main reason is why I can't lower this. Would I need more NB volts or do I need to relax other timings? Thanks for any input!
Zucker2k I'm having trouble getting ATIFlash or Winflash to work with 64bit Vista.
Any ideas on how to grab the bios or am I the problem :D
Cant test max clocks on my card unless I have the room extremely cool, ran 840/1100 for 6 mins b4 3DMark06 lock'd up
Also GPUZ wont report my clocks correctly any ideas?
lol maybe I should head over to right thread to ask these questions
Now back to are regular scheduled programing.....
Doesnt it involve using atiflash under a DOS bootdisk? At least back in the HD3870 days thats how i used to backup my biii (correct multiple of bios? ;) lol) before flashing... I typedQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
atiflash.exe -ai
to get the designated numbers of the graphics cards, and then using
atiflash.exe -s adapter_number whatever_file_name.xxx
to save the actual file. Not sure if the nature of the 4870x2 changes this process, but prolly you'll have to flash each card independently using their designated numbers (0 and 1 most likely).
Or am I just stating the obvious now? :shrug:
EDIT: according to this page, even GPU-z should be able to extract a bios, but not sure if, and how well, it can do so.
Yes, GPU-Z will do it; after saving first adapter, switch to second and save with another name. It's easy, but not too obvious; look the little green card sign in the middle-right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Edit: On the GPU-Z screen where it says Bios Version, look all the way to the right, there's an ic icon, click on that to save the current selected adapter. Thanks for the effort.
Hello again you guys :)
Remember me?... Q9650 hitting wall on Maximus Formula @ 3.8GHz, and trying to decide on mobo for higher FSB.
Well, after listening to your views and doing a bit of reading for myself as suggested. I've decided not to splash out on any of those expensive boards I was considering.. Rampage Formula/Extreme etc. Instead I've been looking at the Gigabyte UD3P and some of the excellent results its been achieving with the 45nm quads. I must be honest, for the price the board sounds amazing. I understand it's not got some of the bells and whistles that the expensive boards have, however it's maximum performance I'm after with my Q9650, so I'm gunna give it a try. Have you heard of anything I should be concerned about regarding the UD3P e.g. heat, reliability etc?
Kind Regards
Orb
This is just my opinion. I would never ever put a Q9650 on a mobo with a 6 phase power like the UD3P's. But then again, this is just me, my personal opinion. Anyway, a 16 phase power like Maximus II Formula BIOS 1901, can handle your quad and even 500FSB is you want. I am actually working on 508FSB stable on my quad at this moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5244/new50013wu3.jpg
[]'s
Simps
That was one of the few things I was looking at, but a quote from a review hardwarecanuks put me at ease...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simps
Should I really be worried about this?Quote:
Now six phases might not seem like a lot in this age of twelve to sixteen-phase voltage regulation systems, but this model supports 30 amps per phase and can deliver a total of 180 amps to the CPU, which is overkill even for extremely overclocked quad-core processors.
Regards
Orb
No, you can do things with that Giga board you can't even dream about.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
UD3P is a decent board, but remember no NB sensors, has been known to kill chips altho iirc a bios update sorted this.
Gigabyte is trying to make a name in the overclocking community, solid board and most who buy it were impressed.
MIIF like all boards has its pros and cons, MIIF is a really good board for air cooling, it likes low volts compared to its big brother X48 but the bandwidth and latancey is poor compared to X48, the bios needs alot of maturing, some key bios options still do not work, ( ASUS are you listening???) wich limits the boards true potential.
Following teh UD3P thread and having a chance to test the board for an afternoon I was impressed how quickly you can overclock a chip, all auto and I had a E8500 upto 4.3GHZ stable.
After an hour or 2 of tweaking and the chip maxed out at 4.5GHZ with air cooling!
Best advice do you homework and research many boards, ask the questions that are important to you, in the end all that matters is your happy with your choice
Hit me up on PM if you want to unload that Max X38, I'm looking for a replacement
Thanks Zucker2k :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Believe me my friend.. I'm dreaming already after seeing some OC results :)
EDIT - Thank you for your valued info also Grnfinger :up:. With my savings on the UD3P I may buy a DMM also to keep an eye on NB/SB temps.
Please come back and post some screenies of your overclocks when your board arives
Hi!
I'm trying to flash my P5E Deluxe with the Rampage BIOS!
Did everything exactly as described and allways get the error message:
"Unable to open rom file"!!!
Any ideas here?
Tks
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rename the bios you want to flash to bios.romQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelin
download afudos ES (afu236u.exe)
type:
afu236u.exe /ibios.rom /n /pbnc
hit enter, and wait till process completes, turn off power, wait 30 seconds and power back on.
@ Grnfinger: Did you manage to upload that x2 firmware?
Tks m8!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
But it didn't do the trick!!! :shakes:
I've been flashing BIOS'es for a long time...
Never had this kind of problem :shrug:
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hmm, you're doing this in dos mode right? Also, could be environment, I don't know if this'll work on compressed drives or not. There are other alternatives, albeit dangerous methods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelin
Are you at stock clocks? I've found when oced this board is hell on USB sticks, flash drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelin
Got my "other board" grn went with gigabyte for various reasons anyway ripping windows in as I type, keep an eye out for results.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=215130
Yop @ DOSQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I really don't have a clue here!
Strange!!!
Tks anyway ;)
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First rule fr flashing --> Stock ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
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I'm having a lot of trouble with 4x1gb Buffalo Firestix. They are stock 2.1vDIMM, but this board doesn't give enough juice to get them to post, so I have to take out all the ram, stick a cheap stick in, post, set voltage, then attempt different settings while overclocking. Any ideas? I appreciate it greatly.
Oh, running the Rampage Formula 408 bios.
I sure will mate :yepp: That's assuming I can clock it up to a level which will fit in with all the big figures I'm seeing around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Orb
I don't think you can compress the drive. Format the USB stick and start from scratch, make it bootable. follow steps from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelin
I will be lurking in your thread :DQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Yes I have them, sorry I forgot to upload them, will do that in a few mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Busy today, it appears Grn is getting audited tomorrow at 1:00pm and I'm trying to find important papers for my tax credits and such.
Bastards, you make one questionable claim and there all over you like a fat chick on smarties
If I'm not around much after tomorrow just look for the big cardboard box I'll be living in.....
Yeah, I've done that!...Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I'll just keep trying!
Gonna try with another USB stick now and pray :up:
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Any ideas for my rather specific question :(
I seem to have gotten the worst Q6600 in the world :rolleyes: I have to feed it 1.55V throught bios around 1.5V actual to obtain 3.6ghz.
My question is.. am I slowly killing my cpu with that much juice, I don't mind it degrading slowly in time, since an upgrade will prolly happen before she dies off. How fast might I see degrading if it even occurs at these volts with the Maximus formula.
Oh and does it effect the board aswell or other components ? This is the first time I actually push a board & cpu a bit more :p:
1.55vcore is less important than temps, if your chip is running at decent temps and your board is running cool than dont worry about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hewi
If your running on the hot side then yes you'll burn that hardware up quicker.
The parts are under water, except for the NB which still has the stock heatpipe assembly on it. After an hour session on OCCT im getting load temps up to 60c. Thinking of slapping my MCW30 on the NB since it's prolly running a bit too hot on the stock setup. Or I'll just back down to my safe settings Voltage on auto @ 3.2ghz temps under 50c.
Hi guys, some quick advice please:
For my existing q6600 would you guys get a p5e and rampage it or go for a p5q-pro ? These are my best options atm. I have 8Gb of g.skill PQ 8000 , are these Ok for p5e ? Or even p5q ?
Any help would be great.
:up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Thats a good question that is not easy to answer. In short, I would say get yourself the p5q-pro instead of the p5e, but only if you do not want to run crossfire. IF you do want to run crossfire, I would suggest you get the P5E deluxe (x48 instead of x38 from P5E) and rampage it, although many people say that the 8x pci2.0 speeds are only noticeable in benches. I was very happy with my rampaged P5E dlx and Q6600 - got her up to 3700MHz stable! For RAM compatibility, please check the QVL (qualified vendor list) on the asus website as it will list the ram that is compatible for that particular motherboard.
If you dont need crossfire, I would suggest go with the P45 chipset, as it runs cooler than the x48 (smaller manufacturing process, therefore less heat) and is known to reach higher fsbs, especially with 45nm quads if you ever decided to upgrade your CPU. PErsonally, I would rather have a p45 board atm, as i feel my P5E dlx is holding back my Q9550 by limiting the fsb to ~471...
just my thoughts, not necessarily wisdom... ;)
CPU temps are decent for that voltage, I would recommend getting the MCW30 on the NB, it kept mine very cool with 1.53 volts on the NB it never saw 45cQuote:
Originally Posted by hewi
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...22976/cpuz.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
p5q-e isnt a bad board at all :cool:
boingQuote:
Originally Posted by ziggo0
I have 3 kits all require 2.1 volts and Maximus boots no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziggo0
The board over volts .8 on the ram, my first sugestion is to get off that crappy 408 bios, it was :banana::banana::banana::banana: iirc, 701 is what you want for better ram compatibilty
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-0701.zip
flash to 701 and retest your stix
just my :2cents:
Wow, I can keep my sticks now, THANKS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I found very interesting phenomenon with my motherboard, which I think Zucker2k had mentioned. Above a certain fsb, for example about 465, I have to switch off the system and kill the switch. After this intervention the system is stable at 8.5x471 Prime95 Blend (9 hours) without problems and occurs benchable above 475 fsb. Without this intervention the system cannot load Vista or freezes at the logon screen. I tried 701 and 410 bios. Same s**t.
ZenEffect :up:
Nice zeneffect but I just want to game with it , no LN etc for me .
I went shopping today and the only store close by that has decent prices had nothing I wanted , no ram no p5q-d or p5q-e .... ffs
:shakes:
Never fails, I'm waiting for stock on a new case and 4870X2 water block.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
This sets me back atleast 10 days, while the case is less important, I need that water block to tame the blast furnace I have installed
Glad it workedQuote:
Originally Posted by ziggo0
I'm looking for feedback from anybody w/ a Q9550 OC'd on X48. I want to run it on a DDR3, X48 based ASUS. What are some of the better OC chioces? I am aiming for FSB500 in 1:2 for DDR2000. Is that too much to hope for out of a Q9550? What is the average max to date?
Ok...Got my Q6600 under control with 1.518V @ 3.6ghz which is nothing spectacular, but I think I'll hold onto these volts. Not sure if im going to replace the stock NB heatpipes as it's stable for now, and it's pain to find a nice solution for the SB if I rip it off :shakes: Funny thing is im reporting idle temps of around 40C's on Vista 64 and exact same setup on Windows 7 64bit runs at 34C. Still think my temps are reasonably low since im running a single loop = MCR320 with some ultra kazes @ 900rpm and I also have a blastfurnace in da loop 4870X2.
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3986/img0592pa9.jpg
500FSB is doable, My Q9550 requires alot of juice to bench at 8.5x500. 500x8 and it starts to settle down. 7.5x500 is 24/7 stableQuote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
If you get a decent E0 I'm fairly certain you can hit your goal
Nice case!!Quote:
Originally Posted by hewi
I've always liked the style of Lian Li cases.
Well now your stable lets see some 3Dmark scores...
What kinda temps are you getting on your 4870X2 under water?
I'm still waiting for my block!
Slacker :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Open that window and crank that fan up to 100% ( bolt case down so it don't take flight ):D
Btw, finished my mounting, got some insulation, off to the store for kneaded eraser, dielectic, and a few other odds and ends. Tommorow should be interesting.
Wow. I just got my new (open box) Rmapage x48 setup with Windows 7 beta on it. What a change. Haven't had much time to mess w/ Win7, but the Rampage booted my chip at 450, all auto settings. I'd say my 430 fsb wall I had on the maximus is officially broken.
Any suggestions on keeping this thing stable up to 500fsb? I'll obviously have to set voltages and such in the bios and I'm going to wait to get my H2O on the NB before I push it, but if I can hit 500fsb w/ 8gb of RAM, I'll be happy for a while.
Home early today and its not bad outside for temps, -4c so I think I good bench session is in order after maybe a cool refreshing beverageQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Cool well I was batting a 100% today, yesterday was a mess, took all day to find the sleeving for the pot.....Today was a breeze though, tommorow will be very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/Ready.jpg
oooo this is going to be interesting...some AMD performance, havent seen any in a long time.
My card must suck ass it hard locks the rig on anything above 840/1050 :shakes: no artifacts just hard locks.
maybe a volt mod is in order???
What were temps of cores? I think mine was idling 32ish and max was 50 when I cold air benched it, hotter made me drop core more. I got better results from clocking memry first than going after core because once it gets the heatsink so hot memory artifacts.. Heres a post its in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=8002
My cores are like 67c+ on load, if you touch the back of the heatsink its actually to hot to leave your finger on for more than a few seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Emailed the etailer about changing my order for a block instock and it would be easier to sell a kidney on the black market than to change my order, it piss's me off.
Maybe I'll let the card cool and test just ram clocks leaving the core's at stock not even run them at the factory OC settings.
Thanks for the link, off to read it now
hewi, take off the heatpipe assembly and replace the thermal compound with something decent, then post your results.Quote:
Originally Posted by hewi
BTW, if you want to go H2O on the NB, you can pull the pipe out of the SB and use the stock SB heatsink like I did.
there has been a few posted on the for sale thread here.. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=214568Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I need to pick a choice between tow OCZ 4g kits of 2x2g to use on an X38 and X48 based Maximus and Rampage. These are my two runner ups; OCZ Reaper HPC 4g kit @ 5-5-5-18 OCZ2RPR10664GK or the OCZ Platinum 4GB kit @ 5-5-5-18 OCZ2P10664GK.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227289 Reaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227298 OCZ
EDIT: What about this set by Patriot, a 4g, 2x2g kit feTURING iNTEL EPP. I haven't heard any high end overclocking reviews on these yet.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220314 Patriot
Has anybody here used eather and with what kind of results? I'm looking for 1150MHz or above to 1200MHz.
OCZ Reapers were decent b4 2008 when they came with Micron D9GMH IC's now I'm not sure what they use.
Plat's are not my flavour but they also used to have great IC's b4 2008 and now not sure what there using.
Unsure on Patriot , I have seen mixed results with this ram and have never used it myself.
Thanks, im a huge fan of Lian Li cases...the older ones that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Breaks my heart to cut her open for a radiator, kinda ruined the clean lines of a V1000-S :( maybe I'll get another one and hide it somewhere.
My 4870X2 idles around 32c & loads well under 50c which is a huge improvement over the stock aircooler, was getting ridiculous temps 60-70c idle with 30% fan control.
The XSPC block does it's job remarkably well, and my loudest part now is the daymn velociraptor, soon to be replaced with some SSD goodness.
Hey, thanks for the tip. i might try that or put some enzotec ram sinks or chiset sink on there. I kinda like the siple look on my loop tho, adding the NB will make my tube routing a bit more crowded. we'll see :)Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
If you do add the NB into the loop, I strongly suggest some thick-walled tubing, as the bend from CPU to NB is pretty tight, I have a piece of 5/8" OD, 7/16" ID tubing (Masterkleer IIRC). They Tygon would kink no matter what I did. :(
Ahh its not a bad bend, even cheapo tubing can do it.
But getting the NB on water will help alot for high FSB clocks
OK, thankx on the RAM feedback. I guess it is obvious I mean for today. So for whatever IC's are being used today. I nerrowed down the choices to either OCZ Reaper or Platinum as for what is comparable in cost. In general, what is concidered to be OCZ's higher OC performer.
also, whp is offering quality X48 compatable NB coolers recently. I am looking for full copper to go w/ Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Copper as I am moving the water kit to another new project.
if not too much more in cost, what are some good PC2-9600 (DDR1200) known to perform well on this MF x38 mobo? I like the idea of the OCZ FLEX-EX but do they perform well to rated spd on our boards?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227405
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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Not sure about the Flex kit, but the GSkill 9600 kit is stellar, if you can afford them that is, A member here on XS has a kit for sale, I'd buy them and sell my 8800 kit but my spending days are done for a while after 2 water blocks a new case and my 4870X2 this past few weeks.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=214795
Hi guys, I was wondering which board was better for overclocking an e5200 or q8200? The maximus formula or the new p5q-e...i know the p5q-e technically is p45( a newer chipset ) but the x38 chipset was a last-gen flagship so...which would be an overall better board to choose at the moment if they both costed the same?
X38 is 45nm quad core FSB limited 425-430 will be you limit most likely, a few rare ones got higher buy not many
P5Q will most likely clock the quad higher...If you get the dual core grab a X38, if you get the quad core grab the P5Q my:2cents:
Depends on how you set it up, I guess. My CPU outlet and my NB inlet are about 4" apart or less. The thin-walled Tygon kept kinking. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I've never used Tygon tubing myself so you would know, I once was stuck when I redid the loop and had to use cheapo Home Depot tubing, 10 feet for 5 bucks!!!!!!!!! cause my primoflex was in the mail....Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Killer Job I got me a RAMPAGE NOW :)
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1/2' id tygon would work better but would require some clamps. you could try putting a twist in the tygon to get it to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
ive used tygon before AND cheap home depot tubing. tygon is more prone to scaling than the cheap home depot tubing but is about 100x more flexible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
personally, I will never buy anything else but the cheap home depot tubing because it fits the barbs tighter than tygon, its way cheaper , clear as glass, and i dont have any tight enough so it doesnt kink,. if it works well, and still looks good then use it.
Only "problem" I have with cheap home depot tubing is the fact that it allows the coolant to evaporate more quickly than tygon tubing, meaning I have to refill my sytem more often than before. But you guys are totally right that the price is unbeatable!
Also, I find that if there is a bend that is too tight, Swiftech coolsleeves are the answer, I have yet to find a bend that is unmakeable!
I personally like Primoflex, is very soft and flexible, thick walled so kinks are not really an issue, if you do happen to get one a 90 degree or 45 degree barb can fix you right up.
Reasonably priced, I think 12 feeet was 26 bucks or so, problem is its getting harder to find Candian stores selling watercooling. So if I shop American I get hit with and extra 20-30 percent for currency exchange. NCIX sucks for service and there selection is rather poor. Direct Canada (is NCIX I'm sure of it) and there prices and shipping are great but there stock level is ratehr crappy.
Orderd my 4870X2 block on Jan 11, has yet to ship :shakes:
Now this is interesting. Under Orthos loads, (one of) my CPU core goes up to 65C even in Everest with the default TjMax of 100C, which Intel states (although there are compelling arguments it may be 95C). The CPU itself sometimes goes up to just under 65C, and the other core tops out around 60C. This is at 4.05GHz. At 4.275GHz, add ~5C to each.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I've long expected my CPU to be running much cooler than it's being reported as. I've lapped it, switched from a Freezer 7 Pro to a Xigmatech HDT s1283 (yes, I applied thermal paste correctly), and have great case airflow (Stacker 830SE with many fans). All of these efforts gave minimal or no improvement in temperatures, yet, the sensors aren't stuck. If I overclock, they go up, and if I underclock, they go way down. I simply think the CPU itself or motherboard sensors are way off.
I also think this because I always see others saying they have the same CPU with an weaker cooler, a non-lapped CPU, and comparable case cooling, and they get idle temperatures in the 20s, and loads under Orthos for the cores no higher than 45C. How, then, is mine running that much warmer, or is it really?
Get this. With the temperatures you listed above, you say it's too hot to touch. I can touch the base of the heatpipes on the cooler, and remember, the heatpipes are HDT touching the CPU itself, and I can not only hold my finger there at these supposed 65C+ (70C at 4.2GHz wasn't much warmer) temperatures, but it's barely even warm. My Northbriudge, by contrast, typically runs ~45C, and the heatpipe between it and the Soutbridge is much warmer, almost too hot to keep a touch on, but not quite.
Would I be safe then, to assume I can basically "ignore temperatures" and push it further? I got my E8400 the day after launch (January 21st was the first day Newegg had them in), and the batch number is in the signature in case it matters, and I remember these early ones had temperature issues. I'm thinking I got either I got one of them, or the motherboard just has really sensitive sensors.
I was referring to my 4870X2 gpu core NOT cpuQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi76
Most 8400 have stuck temps sensors, everyone argues over the tjmax so its really a matter of how comfortable are you with the way everything runs.
You seem to have investigated your problem, so maybe trying 3 or 4 different apps to check temps, then take teh average and run with that?
Dont rely on anything from Asus for temps, they coudnt code a screen saver
No, it's not stable.... yet. ;)
a bit off subject but does anyone know what the requirement (post count I'd assume) is to access the "for sale" board? Whatever it is, I don't have it yet and I need to do a little shopping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Edit......nevermind. Amazing what 3 seconds of looking can do for ya:
Yes there is a for sale forum.
But it only can be accessed once you reached 100 posts.
Ah, I must have missed that. Either way, regardless of if it's a CPU or GPU, if something is running at 65C-70C, I shouldn't be able to hold my touch there on the heatpipe less than an inch away from where said heatpipe is touching the source of the heat and it only feel slightly warm, right? If I stick my hand inside my case in front of the CPU fan, I feel alot of cool ambient air from the fans. It can't be an ambient problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Most programs report the same thing. Either they give results as though the TjMax were 100C (Everest), or 95C (Core Temp, Real Temp, etc.).
My point is that, A) for what I've attempted to keep it cool, this seems too high, B) others with less colling preparation get better results with the same CPU at the same speed, and C) I've touched it and it's not as warm as my Northbridge heatpipe.
Also, my sensors aren't stuck. They move both ways. They just seem way, way off.
Is it a huge benefit to do the rampage conversion on the Maximus Formula. Just debating it right now. Be interesting to try it if I knew it would also be stable.