Anand: PII vs. Q9550 vs. i7 crossfire, Phenom II = smoother

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02-02-2009, 09:30 PM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by roofsniper

i am saying that it is possible to have a huge drop like that and that would explain why it could have higher average fps numbers but not look smooth. here we are dealing with fps averages that have a difference of 1 or less fps. so the average is very similar so it comes down to what happens during the course of the process. i think because of the imc and the high bandwidth of the amd cpus it would be more consistent. intel is processing the info and shooting it at as soon as it is done. which is what amd is doing as well. but at times when the cpu is busy and loaded up like during some action scene or explosion or something it might choke. the core 2 cpu could suffer from low fsb bandwidth and the lack of the imc. so even tho it is throwing the frames out as fast as possible it is being held down. amd on the other hand can let them out with a consistent speed because of the imc and the high bandwidth. so when they action scenes come along the fps values will drop on both but because the core 2 is getting a higher average already and because it is being held down due to bandwidth issues it will choke during times. this is my explanation and reasoning.

Look at the chart I posted and tell me the differences (gap) between min/max for both platforms and then try to justify your answer once again.

@iandh go back and read you OP too and it should be even clearer what your attributing your smooth gameplay to; be sure to read the quotes you bolded, then come back and read the link I posted once again. You should see a pattern.
02-02-2009, 09:30 PM
Brother Esau

Would you drama queens cut the crap and go
02-02-2009, 09:31 PM
eleeter

I think Intel might have another lawsuit on their hands, their products seem to cause brain damage to the hard core fanboys.

Anyway, my OWN personal experience with both the X4 and various Intel quads has always been the same, gaming on the AMD box was indeed nicer, less frame variation. I suggest people actually try both platforms before they go off the deep end.

And if you don't agree, that's perfectly fine then why come here and come unglued because AMD might actually be better than Intel at something?

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Originally Posted by roofsniper

they say laughing is good for your health but i swear after reading your posts i think i might live forever.

:ROTF:
02-02-2009, 09:32 PM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

dude, u need to ease up on shooting ur body parts, there cant be many left judging by this thread

Read the OP too, the guy is an adult and he made certain attributes to his smoothness and you come out from under a rock and say ignore it?
02-02-2009, 09:33 PM
eleeter

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

You should see a pattern.

I see a pattern. Blood spatter from you shooting yourself several times. :D
02-02-2009, 09:34 PM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Look at the chart I posted and tell me the differences (gap) between min/max for both platforms and then try to justify your answer once again.

@iandh go back and read you OP too and it should be even clearer what your attributing your smooth gameplay to; be sure to read the quotes you bolded, then come back and read the link I posted once again. You should see a pattern.

the only pattern I see is the one ur making: trolling & flame-baiting

last chance: get out, or ur next post I'll report u
02-02-2009, 09:35 PM
Sparky

Hey zucker I thought you were going to bed? :p:
02-02-2009, 09:36 PM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

the only pattern I see is the one ur making: trolling & flame-baiting

last chance: get out, or ur next post I'll report u

Me trolling; you came out of nowhere and flame-baited me? You;re lucky I'm in no habit of reporting people. I dare you to do it. :rolleyes: My hunch is now fully confirmed.

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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Hey zucker I thought you were going to bed? :p:

Just as I thought I was done, they called me back!
02-02-2009, 09:37 PM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Look at the chart I posted and tell me the differences (gap) between min/max for both platforms and then try to justify your answer once again.

i see the chart. when looking at the oced results the amd system has a lower max and a higher min. the intel has a bigger gap. but still like i have said before this doesn't mean much it only paints the picture. the real thing is what happens during the period of the benchmark. look at all the drops and rises that will say something. intel may be constantly dropping and going back up but the min and max don't show this. but the reviewer did say that the phenom II system looked smoother and that the intel system had frame rate drops. its not shown in the graph but the reviewer says it and explains its hard to show.
02-02-2009, 09:38 PM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Me trolling; you came out of nowhere and flame-baited me? You;re lucky I'm in no habit of reporting people. I dare you to do it. :rolleyes:

Just as I thought I was done, they called me back!

done! post#141 = rude: name calling :up:
02-02-2009, 09:39 PM
Sparky

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

Just as I thought I was done, they called me back!

Ya know, if you are annoyed, you can just drop it. Don't think you're convincing anybody of anything, probably just annoying and getting annoyed at this point :shrug:
02-02-2009, 09:40 PM
Zucker2k

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

done! post#141 = rude: name calling :up:

If you hadn't proved me right, I would have thought you skipped it. :cool:
02-02-2009, 09:48 PM
iandh

Ok lets go back to discussification, this has been the smoothest smoother thread so far so lets keep up the fun :up:
02-02-2009, 09:53 PM
Movieman

Looks around, ahh, there's the hat..

Hey guys, I just got a PM asking me to look thru this thread and 'remove the two bashers'
Do I have to go this far?
Time for the Intel guys to pack up and head over to Blue land and let these nice green people alone.
This isn't the news section, this is the AMD section and my personal opinion is that if you aren't interested in the AMD product get the hell out of here and leave these people alone.

Now to the AMD guys:
I read down thru page one here and God's truth it sounded like you were waiting and baiting some Blue guy to come in and start something so you take some of the responsibility also.

Let's keep it nice and friendly for all.
Thanks for reading.
02-02-2009, 09:55 PM
EliTE22

i cant believe people r get work up over these result it basicly said they the PII 940 is competive with the q9550
they should have compare at 4ghz for both not the 4.25 and 3.9 what the h*ll is that, just to help confuse us, it means nothing they dont know if all q9550 clock the same and same with PII, wait they dont:rolleyes: a equal oc would be more useful
02-02-2009, 09:59 PM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Now to the AMD guys:
I read down thru page one here and God's truth it sounded like you were waiting and baiting some Blue guy to come in and start something so you take some of the responsibility also.

yea the first page was really bad but i think it was because people are happy to see that even a reviewer has an opinion on this.

back on topic now as we tried in the last smoothness thread is there a possible way to test this? and maybe even show it on a chart!!!! :rolleyes:
02-02-2009, 10:00 PM
flippin_waffles

So it looks like the jury has returned an 'AMD is smoother' verdict. Nice! Unfortunately it took 3 years deliberation, cuz even the A64 X2's were smoother than C2D's! Yep, that's the way I like my system, silky smooth. :D
02-02-2009, 10:05 PM
Brother Esau

This constant dram on this forum anymore leave allot to be desired I gotta tell you! Personally I could care less Intel or AMD.......Whatever:rolleyes:

In my mind a individual choice (Whatever that may be) is just that a individual choice and its that individuals God Given Right to be entitled to that and it is not for anyone to try to take it away from them or criticize because it does not coincide with their Personal Individual choice.......Why can no one respect this?

Dave .....as Far a what you said in regards to enticing Intel Kids into a fight with the Title I agree doubt that was the intention but I just knew there was gonna be drama up the Ying Yang as soon as I saw the Title:D:D

But you have to admit after all of these months past year whatever the whole smoother thing with Intel i7 just kills me:rofl:
02-02-2009, 10:05 PM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by flippin_waffles

So it looks like the jury has returned an 'AMD is smoother' verdict. Nice! Unfortunately it took 3 years deliberation, cuz even the A64 X2's were smoother than C2D's! Yep, that's the way I like my system, silky smooth. :D

i think the HT and imc created this smoothness idea. which shouldn't be a debate once core 2 is considered obsolete.
02-02-2009, 10:15 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Brother Esau

This constant dram on this forum anymore leave allot to be desired I gotta tell you! Personally I could care less Intel or AMD.......Whatever:rolleyes:

In my mind a individual choice (Whatever that may be) is just that a individual choice and its that individuals God Given Right to be entitled to that and it is not for anyone to try to take it away from them or criticize because it does not coincide with their Personal Individual choice.......Why can no one respect this?

Dave .....as Far a what you said in regards to enticing Intel Kids into a fight with the Title I agree doubt that was the intention but I just knew there was gonna be drama up the Ying Yang as soon as I saw the Title:D:D

But you have to admit after all of these months past year whatever the whole smoother thing with Intel i7 just kills me:rofl:

I haven't tried the new AMD chip so i can't comment but as I said to the OP in a PM today, you want smooth, buy a dual socket board.. Now those are smooooothe!:D
02-02-2009, 10:17 PM
Sparky

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Originally Posted by Movieman

I haven't tried the new AMD chip so i can't comment but as I said to the OP in a PM today, you want smooth, buy a dual socket board.. Now those are smooooothe!:D

Yeah some of us would love one of those :slobber: but they are a tad on the pricey side. I've promised myself one of them at some point though :D
02-02-2009, 10:53 PM
hyc

You'd think after all this time, someone would have written a recorder that records FPS and logs it once/second so that this sort of question can be answered...
02-02-2009, 11:04 PM
Brother Esau

Honestly this B.S anymore Intel/AMD reminds me of 2 Five Year Olds.....I Know you are But What am I .............I know You Ara But What Am I?

Give me a Frigging Break with this nonsensical Bull Sh**t anymore...It's Stupid and quite F@cking Old Already!
02-03-2009, 01:00 AM
YukonTrooper

Man, it is hot up in here!

Zucker, my friend, calm down. The results are right there and not that damning. In all but two games, AnandTech says the gameplay experience between the 940 and Q9550 were identical.

Anyways, I'm going to tuck my i7 920 in and call it a night. I think she's pretty tired from beating up on all these inferior Yorkfields and Denebs. :wasntme:

Just kidding! Good to see AMD back in da game! Hopefully next round, which unfortunately looks like 2011, will put the green back on top! :up:
02-03-2009, 01:20 AM
fellix_bg

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Just kidding! Good to see AMD back in da game! Hopefully next round, which unfortunately looks like 2011, will put the green back on top!

Not much left 'till 2012, eh? :rofl:

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