Getting a WS Revolution soon, can I use this thread/info also for my board?
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Getting a WS Revolution soon, can I use this thread/info also for my board?
Do you guys have the cold boot problems ? Like you have to go in bios and save and exit sometimes cause it says overclock failed upon boot ? My POS Gigabyte board does that and its annoying so i think i might go with Asus.
someone happy with 1305 bios ??
For those who are getting random BSOD with BIOS 1305. Forcing the Idle-speed to 1600Mhz, seams to solve the problem.
I've been getting quiet a few random BSOD to start with, but then it was idling @4.5GHz. I haven't had any BSOD in 2-3 days now, and that's after changing the Idle-speed to 1600MHz buy changing Power Option=Balanced in W7. I guess the same can be done by disabling C-states in BIOS too.
It's not too bad, but you can't regret and go back. You have to try to get around potential problems, like that nasty random BSOD.
Good to know. Im happy simply reading that Asus has officially acknowledged the cold boot issue and provided some sort of a fix for it. I can't say the same for Gigabyte and i have provided them with all the evidence they needed from various cases(forums) of this "phenomena" and the response i recieved from their tech guy was not satisfactory: "B2 revision has been recalled from Intel, please exchange your board".
ok, thx guys. i will stay @1204 Bios and wait. maybe asus provides us with a better one. that we cannot go back is :shakes:
I have a lot of trouble with Dominator GT ( hyper ICs ) are there tips for run this memory?
I have a P8P67 Deluxe and a 2600k processor, the system works great and at 3.15 I have OC'ed as high as 4.8GHZ (I want to set stable 24/7 Stable at 4.7GHZ). So all is fine there, however I have 1 major and I do mean major issue.
If I overclock at all I mean from 3.4 to 3.5 or from 3.4 to 4.7 then the system will not boot correctly if shutdown. If I reboot everything is fine, but if I shutdown the system (sleep or hibernate), then when I try to start it up it fails to start.
The failure occurs in that the PS and fans spin up, but that's it, nothing is initialized on the MB and I have to hold power for 5 second to force reset the system (I've left it like this for over an hour without any change). Then it will reboot say that OC'ing failed press F1, I do so just go to discard and it boots fine, and OCs without issue. I've tried every BIOS released to date all react the same way, I have also change PS units as I thought it might have been bad, os it is something to do with the MB and CPU.
My problems come from the fact that this is very annoying especially as I normally boot this box remotely and it if does not start then I need to physically go to it to force it to startup, which is not always possible when working remotely.
I'm looking for why this MB and CPU is crap when it comes to being able to start correctly and how to fix it since its current behavior is 100% unacceptable.
Thanks,
ERIC
Await hyper friendly bios mate... I an run mine at 1866 CL7-7-7-21 1.6Vdimm, 2133 no go ( worked fine with the ES CPU though )
Use bios later than 1053, after bios flash, Reset the Cmos and pull the battery for 30 secs... if you don't do the latter oyu might get stuck with the issue you are having right now... got a Vanilla, Pro, Dlx, Sabretooth and H67 M Evo here : all no cold boot, but the flash needs to be properly executed...
Using 1204 Bios - no cold boot problem anymore :up:
I'll pop in the sabretooth, be back this evening with bios shots for 1866 cl7, Vdimm here is 1.6 for 24/7 usage
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/SBLIST/hyperscl7.jpg
1204 BIOS and nothing but problems, wtg ASUS :down:
- Rebooted after installing Office -> no more SLI (tried various WHQL and Driver Cleaner and it's a clean install from 1204 BIOS :()
- BSOD: Memory_Management (doesn't like my week old G.Skill ECO 1600MHz 7-8-7-24 1.35V)
- BSOD: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (this is related to my non-functioning SLI)
- Cold boot issues. The actual "bug" seems to be gone (OC fail) but I still get no action sometimes when I want to cold boot or it clears CMOS for no reason
Mailed the store. When I get a B3 I'd prefer a Gigabyte board like my P55... Sometimes you win sometimes you lose I guss
Are you sure your memory isn't going down ? which slots are they in ?
4 banks 4 sticks but it's not the RAM. worked flawlessly on my i7.
reinstalled 7 x64... no SLI :(
SLI is fine here (GTX460) with the Sabretooth, not a new install, just Win7 with SP1 from last month...
Have you upped the IO voltage for the 4 dimms ?
my biggest issue with the p67 pro is that it just takes forever to get to the bios screen, even when it is going to boot properly. prolly take 15-20 seconds just to get to the bios screen. other than that is seems pretty friendly on 1253 bios
Updated #0 with info on SATA issue.
Since they allow RMA's until end of june, maybe we should wait as long a posible. They might do minor tweaks to the board in that period.
Any thoughts? Personally i'm in no rush since I only have SSD + HDD.
P8P67 pro 1204 1305 bios can not use SLI.
please give me new bios for SLI. WOW .... ASUS !!!!!!!! I trust you for many years , please donot waste my money. I donot want to refund my new GTX 570.
Tried a reinstall ? On the sabretooth everything is a okay...
I need little recomendation. I need to get new memory for my P8P67 deluxe and I have two choices:
1. Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB kit CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9 (1866MHz 9-9-9-24 @ 1,5V)
or
2. Corsair XMS3 2X4GB kit CMX8GX3M2A2000C9 (2000MHz 9-10-9-27 @ 1,65V)
From what I've read I should go with 1866MHz kit since it has better latency and there is no 2000MHz option on Sandy Bridge and also save some $?
Thanks
I tried from the rated 1.35 to 1.55V... None give extra stability.
Weird because IntelBurnTest can do 20x 8Gb runs and not crash. The crashes are random.
Weird, I had SLI a few days and it just vanished.
And I have disabled power saving in Windows, but after a while my screen goes blank!! While Windows is running WTF?? And it's not the power plan because Windows keeps working. Can't get the screen back and always need to reboot with power button. Really weird.
And yes, I cleared CMOS many times :(
This POS is haunted. Sent mail for RMA for GB.
I'd like to you check a few things.
1. Are you on Windows 7 SP1? If not, you'd have to download a patch or it wouldn't matter if you are 6 days pass, you will crash randomly.
2. Are you using Offset voltage? If so, you should use Regular or Medium for your LLC. SBs can scale between high and low clocks very fast but the voltages many times don't change as fast and it can cause crashes. By using lower LLC, your resting voltages stay higher so you'll have lesser chance to crash.
3. It might be that you are undervolting your CPU or Ram. In these years, I see this trend that people want the lowest possible voltage for their hardwares but this can actually hurt you. Try bumping up a few notches. It doesn't matter if you were Linx stable for 5 days. Just try it.
4. You shouldn't touch IO, SA voltages. They do absolutely nothing for stability nor they give you lower voltage. Asus and Intel stated this already.
Hope you fix your comp.
Kingston HyperX Grey 2133 CL9 kit works pretty well on these boards, 2256MHz CL7-11-8-25 1T.
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2133461_
Well the stability issues are random and everything gets enough voltage. CPU aswel as RAM.
Mailed the store for RMA, no SLI and the memory issues are a hassle. I'm picking up a B2 or 3 Gigabyte...
Is there alot of diference from the P8P67 to the P8P67 PRO? its another 20€ for the Pro thats why i am asking.
Diagnostics readout on the motherboard, plus the inclusion of the Intel branded NIC is about it for the difference between the two.
What do you mean by Diagnostics readout and Intel branded NIC? sorry if its a simple question but i really dont know :)
Oh if thats the only diference then ill go for the normal, im not thinking of doing CF or SLI :)
Ya ive checked that out other then the extra PCI X slot theres nothing else really so i will probobly go for the normal P8P67 :)
Btw how are the Gigabytes and the MSi any good or better then these for OC?
Thanks :)
I'm having some weird RAM problems with my P8P67 Pro. I'm using 2 sticks of 2GB G.Skill ECOs DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24. The problem is I can't get them to even boot at their X.M.P. specs @ 1.35V. I tested them in a P55 board and they worked perfectly, so I assume it was just a P55-RAM-on-P67 hickup.
But then I ran into some very weird behavior: trying out DDR3-2133, I found out a tRCD of 9 causes an infinite cycle of reboots. Instead of hanging with the DRAM LED on as was expected, the POST goes past the VGA phase, then the PC shuts down. With the exact same settings, I can boot into Windows with a tRCD of 8 (yes, 8) although it is not very stable, which doesn't make any sense.
Has anyone seen anything like this?
By any chance anyone known which BIOs is best for the vanilla/regular P8P67? Was able to get a B2 revision.
Same Dimms ( ECOs DDR3-1600) same problem with the newest 1305 BIOS they work at 1.5v before that I needed to go to 1.55 to get them to boot at CAS 8, never seen them boot at over 1600 either on this board on a P55 I could both boot them at lower voltages and at higher speeds.
ERIC
anyone know if b2 and b3 model bios are interchangeable?
I am running the same ram at 2133 8-10-7-27 at 1.65v and it is 3DM06 stable
http://i55.tinypic.com/2pt6oed.png
Asus have finally put the 1305 bios in their servers , though I hear there are several problems .
Should one update the deluxe from 1254 to 1305 ?
the answer is simple : Do you have problems now ? if not do not update... if so give it a try...
No problems , but if it enhances the oc capabilities as it says - would be nice to go higher than 4.8 for 24/7 .
Beleive me the OC is CPU and not board limited... it finally solved the Cold booth with my sabretooth, Dlx performance seems on par... CPU still tops out at 4.7 daily ( heat) and 5.2 when benching...
I could be wrong but AFAIK the enhancement (4.) in 1305 is to set C3/C6 to disabled when set for auto. You can easily set them yourself to disabled manually in previous versions if it helps but expect higher idle temps/power.
Code:Description P8P67 Deluxe 1305 BIOS
1. Enable the display of Intel PCH revision BIOS Setup Screen for the ease of recoginization for B3 stepping chipset.
2. Enable support for ROG BIOS Print
3. Enhance SAS card compatibility
4. Enhance auto rule for better performance.
5. Support new version AI-SuiteII(must work with new AI-SuiteII)
6. Enable support for onboard Bluetooth disable capability.
7. Enable support of "Wait For 'F1' If Error" option to allow user to ignore BIOS warnings during POST.
Version 1204
Description P8P67 Deluxe 1204 BIOS.
1. Reduce boot time if clear RTC.
Beta Version 1053
Description P8P67 DELUXE 1053 BIOS
1. Enable support of "Internal PLL Overvoltage" item to allow better CPU Turbo Ratio overclock capability with D2 Stepping processors.
Version 1003
Description P8P67 DELUXE 1003 BIOS
1. Update CPU ratio item to allow automatic activation of Intel Turbo Boost when CPU Ratio is above the Intel specification.
2. Enhance PCH native SATA performance.
3. Enhance USB 3.0 / PCIE performance.
4. Enhance USB 3.0 compatibility under BIOS setup screen.
5. Enhance USB compatibility.
Version 0804
Description P8P67 DELUXE 0804 BIOS
First release Bios
**WARNING*** FLASHING BIOS IS AT YOUR OWN RISK, DO NOT TRY TO BACK FLASH TO ON B3 BOARDS WITH EARLIER BIOS THAN THE BOARD WAS SHIPPED WITH
backflashing procedure for all asus p8 series boards with AMI EFI bios
download
http://www.ami.com/support/downloads/amiflash.zip
use the utilities in the aptio folder. i used the x64 win flash cuz im lazy but it works. remember to program all blocks. might get an error verifying the blocks during the last segment, but it will reboot. just re-flash via ez-flash after.
FYI I did brick my board flashing from 1253 to 1305 in EZ FLASH. I do not know if this is a side effect of the previous back flashing so this is all at your own risk (i have a chipmax2 so flashing a bad bios is no prob for me.. board is alive and kicking)
I'd probably have picked up an Asrock or Biostar board to save myself some money if I new I'd be having so many problems :shrug:
@l0ud_sil3nc3:
I had settled for very similar settings (2133 8-10-8-28 1.65V) until I found out that reboots would fail if I shut down right after stressing the RAM (ex: starting Prime95, letting it run for some minutes, rebooting = failed boot with hang @ DRAM LED).
So I decided to do some more testing, and then I ran into the tRCD problem. Can you try booting DDR3-2133 @ tRCD 9 (I could reproduce the problem even after relaxing other timings quite a bit) and see if anything like what I experienced happens? That way I'd rule out a problem exclusive to my board.
So are the P8P67 Pro having ram issues? becauase im thiking of going for the P8P67 Normal version.
Still dont know what ram to go for atm.
Does anyone else find Offset Mode kind of useless? It is nice because the vCore can lower while idle, but the voltage for single-threaded loads is over 0.1V lower than for multi-threaded ones, which makes my life quite a bit harder.
My CPU is stable for 20 passes of LinX with AVX @ 4.8GHz, offset +0.1V (~1.4V on load, LLC off), but if I switch from 4 to 1 thread, I get a fail at the second pass. I'd need to raise the offset way more than I'd like to get full stability. :down:
The Sandy Bridge VID does seem to work differently than the older generation in that with loaded cores it can increase. For instance if I run Linx/AVX @4.6GHz, VID will be 0.03V higher with 4 cores than running on just one core or one thread. If your using Regular LLC ie standard Intel spec, then the loadline drop should be much more than 0.030V with 4 cores vs one core meaning your Vcore should be higher for one core than 4 cores. Sounds like something weird is going on if your seeing 0.1V less with one core vs 4 cores.
If you had LLC set to Ultra High or maybe High even, then it might be possible that there could be less Vcore for single threads. LLC is set to auto and not Auto right?
You seem to have a high offset 0.1V are you not using the extra turbo VIDs? If not, give them a go and see if it makes a difference but please make sure your old offset you put in is reduced, say to 0.010V. If you have a really good chip you might even be able to use a negative offset depending how high you want to OC.
I had completely ignored the 'Additional Turbo Voltage' option thinking it was only meant to be used with Auto voltage. I had not experienced much with LLC as I thought it wouldn't make much sense with offset mode, but I'll try more combinations now.
Thanks for the input, SB is kind of alien to me considering I only OC'd on LGA775 before :clap:
Heres my ASUS RMA status
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ew1edt.png
Been using bios 1305 and the resume from sleep issue with PLL overvolt on is still there.
Still no fix yet?
So there are other boards out there by Gigabyte, Biostar, MSI, etc. that can hold say a 4.8-5.0ghz overclock and resume from sleep just fine unlike Asus then, huh?
Only if you're lucky enough to get a CPU that can do that without PLL OV. And I retract my last statement, apparently Intel does plan to fix sleep with PLL OV. someday. But until they provide the updated microcode/firmware/whatever, there's not much board manufacturers can do about it.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1579942
Yeah,well people should know better than to complain and want to switch motherboards because of S3 sleep not working when overclocked.
You would think four years of this would teach people a lesson...But I guess not.
Computers are *designed* to be used at stock speeds, and sleep was designed as a stock feature. Overclocking is a bonus, not a right. Manufacturers TRY to cater to us as best they can, but S3 has ALWAYS been problematic on overclocked systems. That's why Intel is in no hurry to fix something like this. They have far more important things to do on the queue list...when you're using PLL Overvoltage, you're running OUTSIDE the specifications of the system; it's not something that is exactly warranted (guaranteed). PLL is already erratically stable enough as it is, without throwing S3 into the picture.
Back in the core 2 days, there were problems with computers locking up from sleep, due to the chipset straps resetting and causing the RAM timings to be completely out of specification for the FSB (which was why the boards refused to resume; think of trying to run CAS 3 at 1000 mhz to see how that easily happens). This was later fixed in many boards, but in some cases it took months, in others, a year or more.
Now, something like VT-D, I can understand, since that's a non-K advertised feature that is SUPPOSED to work at all times...that I can relate to...
Maybe I'm lucky, but in my admittedly short overclocking experience, I had no problems with S3.
My MSI P45 Neo-F woke up from S3 at least a couple times every day for 2 years while OC'd without major problems (it would hang if you woke it up right after sleeping, but it happened at stock speeds too), and so far my P8P67 PRO has been flawless @ 4.7GHz.
But (there's always a but), I'm on air, and hit my cooling limits already. If I were WC'ing I'd definitely be at least annoyed if I had to choose between S3 and the maximum attainable clocks. It's probably not fair to complain (as you mentioned, PLL overvoltage is definitely on the unsupported side of things), but this is XS, we won't put up with compromises without at least throwing a couple of (metaphorical) punches around :rofl:
Well I'm not saying people shouldn't complain (since that's what gets stuff added that we want. Just think it was just a few years ago that we didn't have CMOS reset BUTTONS on high end boards yet). I guess I mean them saying they're "fed up" and jumping ship to a different board that OTHERS are jumping ship away from, to the board that the first person is leaving...~_~
Seems like the only board that is performing absolutely flawlessly for everyone (besides defective boards) is the Maximus IV Extreme....Perfect LLC (measured with DMM) at 75%...except you PAY for that...big time...zero problems compared to what is affecting the P8P or GB boards...
Take out 1 of the PCIE x16 slots, throw a PCI slot on it and lower the price by 75, and I'd be making love to that board in bed, dressed as a significant other....
Heck, just throw an onboard X-fi like on the GB Assassin, and I'll even remove one of my packages for that board !!!
I just installed my new P8P67 EVO and updated BIOS from 804 to 1305 but never Boots on with OC.
I will reset and enter BIOS again and save config.
It runs at 5Ghz on AIR with 1.43v stable :) and 2133 for memory.
I'm now at 4.5Ghz ant 1.3v, but it don't Boot 1st time, :S
I don't like that every time that I start the system, I have to turn it off and turn on again, enter BIOS, save and exit.
Can ASUS solve it please ?
Any BIOS boot 1st time with OC¿?
Regards ^^
IMO that BIOS setting could have have been clearer to say something like "allows VID increase with unlocked turbo multi's". With a setting of 0 (Auto?) that means for instance the 2500k VID plateaus after 37x multi. By changing that value to 0.200 then VID will increase to something like 1.5V at the 50x multi. IIRC Intel spec is for 1.52V max VID but it seems to stop at 1.5000V.
I had a closer look at VID. It seems with C3 and/or C6 enabled VID goes a fair bit lower with only one thread loaded. Asus calls disabling C3/C6 an enhancement to overclocking but it seems to me to be a work around for a buggy Sandy Bridge. Would be interesting to hear what an Intel engineer would have to say about it. So with offset which is dependent on VID that would mean using extra voltage or losing the highly efficient power saving of C3/C6. C1E can still be used without C3/C6 to give an idle power of ~12W vs ~5W with C3/C6 or if using fixed voltage then VID doesn't come into the equation and C3/C6 can be used without that problem.
Here's showing the difference with C1E/C3/C6, all other settings the same, EIST disabled and running 45x multi. With C3/C6 enabled the VID seems to be a bit jumpy, whether that's due to the software sampling it idk but you can see the difference in Vcore is quite large. I should also point out that while one thread is tied up like this then C1E isn't going to give any enhanced power saving, i.e. it's just going to act like C1.
My new replacement b3 board needs more volts for 8hr prime stable. bah.
Mine doesn't need more volts, but the calibration is way different.
Using the Additional Turbo Voltage and CPU Voltage Offset example for 48x multi...
Old board: +0.005V offset, +.184 turbo VID
New board: +0.030V offset, +.192 turbo VID
My concern is the settings combined with the new board cause bigger transient spikes in CPU voltage when going from high-load to idle.
Will my current heatsink fit on the new 1155 boards? I found a store that has various P8P67's (B3) in stock and ordered my P8P67 Deluxe along with a 2500K. I get back in here when I start putting it togather, but in the mean tim e i need to know if I have to buy a new cooler? Will my ninja fit socket 1155?
Is it this one? If yes, you'll probably need to buy an adapter.
just want to check with u guys
m4e has this issue with ai suite reverting the dram vref to 0.50x as compared to the bios. as long the sensor on ai suite is loaded , values are reverted.
is this the same with all the boards??..
Well my new B3 Asus P8P67 Deluxe arrived a few days ago and for sure does not Overclock the same as the old.
I Just passed a 5 hour run with prime , also a 3 pass with Memtest. Bios 1305.
** Everything else on Auto **
AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
BCLK/ Frequency - 103.0
All Cores - 44
PLL - Disable
Memory - 1922MHz @ 9-10-9-27-2t
EPU Power Saving - Disable
Load-Line - Medium
Phase Control - Optimized
Dutry Control - T.Probe
CPU Current Capability - 100%
VRM Freq - 350
CPU Voltage - Offset + 0.040
DRAM 1.65
CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum - Disabled
C1 C3 C6 - Enable
2 f3"s 1 tb in raid 0 on the Intel ports.
Intel Core i7 2600k
CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 8GB (2x 4GB) 2000 (CMT8GX3M2A2000C9)
*** Note ***
Please post your B3 Overclock settings as I tried for hours and hours to keep prime from BSOD or any suggestions on the above are more than welcome. 25c Idle - 54c Load on a custom water cooled set up.
hmm u guys should complain as m4e was given a max power option so users dont have to configure any of the turbo parameters.
just click max power.
dont get it why they didnt give this option to del atleast the one i have been doing for my friend
hmm c-states. i tend to off them completely for initial barage of test to pass
and then final test of stability with them on to adjust pwm frequency etc.
I would say it's a bit worse b/c it needs a bit more voltage on the offset and that gave me a small rise in Temps 5c or so. Also the LLC AND Phase settings have changed from the old b2 , 1305 bios. I could not get stable with my old settings at all. Mabey b/c I was using Corsair Vengeance 8GBCMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 as they run at 1.5v , I don't know mate just my mind is bent at the moment been up all night fooling with this mess.
Don't get me wrong Overclocking this just needs the right mix and I've almost figured it out.:eek:
I've tried so many timings with this ram it's unreal , 2133, 1922, 1866 , 1600, and 1866 @1.62v 8-9-8-24 1t seems to be the best out of them all.. Memtest passed with those settings , If I lower anything it fails. Believe me I put these modules in so many configurations it's mind bending. I wanted to see how good and what all the hype was on the GT. $139 A Set at MC , so I got 2. Now there $169 ,, added AirFlow Pro and that was a bit of a pain as the cables are short and should be done before you have the MB in the case. Also have 1/2 in feser tubing in the way as my dual rez is in the 2nd & 3rd slot FROM THE TOP on the Antec DF-85.. it was a job , but it's done.
so far in sandbridge i noticed this
say example 4750 my 24/7 clocks
vcore is between 1.400 set to 1.420
glops will pass between 79 - 82glops
lower end glops neeeds 1.4
higher end glops needs 1.42
but heck if u have a 5ghz proc that does 1.36-1.4
dont think that 0.02 hurts lol
btw dont follow too much in some of the overclocking guide out there
a lot of speculative and theoretical guide
so far the asus one is the most accurate
The Modules work in all those settings don't get me wrong .. I was just testing with Sandra and AIAD64 Extreme to see what resulted in the best performance out come. As trying to find reviews on these Modules , I had not much luck. Yes I have a 2 sets of G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL , I been a big fan of G.SKILL as there Trident series preformed outstanding and hooked me on the brand name of G.SKILL and a set of Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9.. I just could not pass up the $139 a set on the DOMINATOR GT's , listed @ $215 on newegg..
And yes I do agree the Overclocking guides out there are not real life down to earth all that true. I had to take a few from here and there and piece them all together when I first started back in Jan/ playing with Little Miss Sandy , now the new B3 board I got you cant use the same settings you used with the old boards well in my case , they just don't work for me.. Needed a bit more on the + Offset Voltage , LLC & Phase Control changes were needed also to keep Prime Stable.
No biggie I just had to take a couple days & nights trying changes , Stress Testing , from scratch pretty much on my own.. Now that I got a stable 4.5GHz and as close to 2000MHz on the Ram I will fiddle a bit more with it but I want to see what the Max is on my Chip & Board.. With my old board the 1st 2 ram slots stopped working and the x16 PCIE slot also.. So I never could have any fun with it..
I just preordered a p8P67 Deluxe from Directron to replace my P8P67 Pro while it gets shipped off to Asus rma
got my Deluxe B3 today in exchange for my gigabyte UD4. liking it much better :up: much more features.
although a bit weird that offset vcore on auto seems to really want to overvolt way over 1.4v for small overclocks even. there should be a +0.000 or "normal" instead of just auto or +/- 0.005 to get normal SVID
Edit: even stranger is -0.005 somehow WAY undervolts the CPU to where it won't even boot, and +0.005 is too much. something doesn't seem right here. that and the BIOS vcore shows much lower than CPU-Z
I hear ya - I've found this frustrating as well. I want - offest to work because of the overvolting, but my box won't boot as soon as I try it. I could rock 4.8-5.0 easily, but won't because of the overvolting crap.
Question: If I use manual voltage, won't the CPU ALWAYS use the voltage I set regardless of when it downclocks back to 1600MHz? That kinda defeats the purpose of the power savings/heat savings. That's why I'm kinda stuck using AUTO VCore, no LLC up to 4.6 - anything beyond and it's too much VCore, but yet I still want to use the C-states/EIST stuff.
so it isn't only me...
I'm using manual voltage right now, but I assume if you have EIST/C1E on and such that it won't undervolt. at least that's how it worked on my last gigabyte board. (which btw gigabyte's offset worked fine, why isn't Asus' working right?)
that's good to know. but Asus still needs to fix the minus offset. I think it has something to do with the board's BIOS running at only the max reported turbo freq. (3.7 on 2500, 3.8 on 2600) regardless of overclock setting. so the minus offset is probably being based off the 3.7/3.8 SVID. that would also explain the low voltage shown in BIOS. (and you can see current multiplier being 37 or 38 somewhere there)
also, even if C3/C6 saves more power, I would imagine there's still concern for lifespan reduction of the CPU if you're always running a high voltage even in idle. but I could be wrong.
Replaced my board with the revised board and it is quite different with the offsets and voltages. It still OC's well but I'm getting consistant BSOD's (0x9C) with everything at default settings about 10 minutes apart. Runs prime and LinX no problem. Hope I don't have to replace the board again.
I just read 100% of this thread, and still can come to a conclusion for which bios to flash to for my (Soon to be arriving) Sabertooth B3 revision board. I wont know what bios is currently flasshed to it as its not in my hands yet, but what bios is recommended at this point? thanks
another small annoyance about this board is that the CPU fan header will only scale fan speed back with a 4-pin plug supporting PWM. It can't scale back by "voltage" like gigabyte has an option for. but the chassis fans do. although the minimum they can run at is 60%, whereas gigabyte can go as low as 30%. (but it only supported CPU fan speeds, no other fan ports) so I need to go rewire my case now >.< also, I'm still really impressed with the software but the auto-overclocking tool had my CPU up to 1.5v and 1.6v!!! OUCH!!! there should be a way to set an upper limit to voltages or temps, as it had my CPU up to 96c at one point. are they trying to fry peoples chips?
my B3 Deluxe came with the latest 1305 (dated 2/11/2011), I'd assume the sabertooth would too.