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CPU VTT is the last pic - for some reason it wasn't showing up, but it's fixed now :)
It is close to the CPU socket, you can see the socket lever in the pic.
When measuring the voltage of a well designed circuit there are multiple points that can be used. The exception to this would be a circuit with the inclusion of an inductor. In that case, the proper voltage value would be after the inductor. Although from a technical point of view one always tries to measure the voltage at the component the circuit supports. The reason I indicated VTT where I did was twofold. It's an easier spot to access for someone not familiar with probing circuitry and also depending on the CPU cooling used the area around the processor can be next to impossible to access.
Ok now I'm getting somewhere.
My board does run close to whats set in BIOS if not slightly over.
Using Clunk/Jimmy's measure points:
vCore set: 1.5v / shown in BIOS: 1.53v / DMM 1.56v
vDimm set: 2.19v / shown in BIOS: 2.19v / DMM: 2.20v
NB Core set: 1.63v / shown in BIOS: 1.66v / DMM: 1.63v
SB Core set: 1.51v / DMM: 1.51
VTT set: 1.453v / shown in BIOS: 1.45v / DMM: 1.46v
GTL's manually set to 120 in BIOS
GTL 1/2 DMM 0.98v
GTL 0/3 DMM 0.99v
NB GTL DMM 1.02v
Praz I think you have the VTT & PLL indicated measure points round the wrong way on the "SK12" chip.
I don't get any VTT voltage drop if anything a slight over volt so the Clunk/Jimmy charts are out a bit IMO & should be checked again on an X48 with BIOS 0320.
CN :)
sorry to ask here, anyone heard any news about the dd3 version?
It's possible. I can double check them. Graphics isn't one of my strong points by a long shot.
Your readings compared to what Clunk posted is most likely completely normal. Got to remember that it will be just a matter of chance that two boards are going to read the same. What's considered in the industry as high precision is still a 1% variance when talking about components such as resistors. The voltages and charts any of us post is best considered as nominal values instead of absolute.
John
wasup, have now a new x48 and oczreaperX but, my system doesn´t start :S have a lcd post error code C1 , what i can do :(
Actually I just had a look at my P35 board & although the chip is in the same place the D6 side of it is switched out on the X48 so your P35 edge of stability pic is correct its just switched out on the X48.
I accept the variance between boards but I would not expect 1.63v vtt set to drop to 1.55 to be high precision & it sure isn't 1%. As the GTL charts voltages are derived from the vtt voltage it would be nice to have it double checked with the new BIOS.
CN :)
I have Reaper X 6400 & 8000's & they both run fine on my x48.
You could try a different stick of memory to make sure it boots/posts etc then try again with the Reaper X but remember to slacken them off 5.5.5.18.5.54 rest on auto should make 1000mhz easy with 2.0v?
CN :)
1.603 set and actual being 1.55 is more likely a divider issue. If so it should be the same on all boards. Can you check your board at that setting?
Sure seems like the 03/20 BIOS is setting a different divider compared to the table.
Updated with some bigger pics and clearer labelling. :)
X38/X48 Voltage Measuring Points.
I think this may be down to the type of CPU - do you have a 45nm CPU you can try and see if your BIOS values match the tables?
Or if anyone else could verify this for me, that would be great :)
In other words, if you have any 45nm CPU, what VTT voltage settings do you have a choice of?
Thanks.
arrival my pcs. :D
a few pics
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/478/img0591md6.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6721/img0593vo4.jpg
Q9450.3/20/08 Bios.Will post rest of voltage options soon:up: .
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/P4080636.jpg
Thanks for those.
So, my theory was wrong :lol:
I'll find out the problem and post back here later (might be tomorrow) for anyone that's interested :)
Any news about the UT X48 T2R version?Has anyone got it?
the oficial page,has having problems, i trying to download bios, from official page, but appears corrupt info or a lot of letters and numbers.
The Digital PWM gets pretty hot although my Q6600 is running @ stock speeds + volts. I already replaced the factory compound with AS Ceramique. Any options of a fitting PWM/Mosfet block for the LT-X48 or will Eddy make one for us.... :D
hey anyone using that bernstein card? i gave it a few weeks , playing with settings/drivers and hopeing it would get better , but my god , it has to be the worse sounding card ive ever heard lol its terrible. voice is so low and no bass . very tinny sound .
i tried a few realtec drivers and the sound is bad with all of them. must be the card.
im looking at getting one of these -Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro but im worried it wont fit. the pci slots are so damn close to gpu. itll be really squashy.
Yes we are waiting to get the German Watercool soon, if you interested put your name on the list:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=182949
don't worry, fits very well, i must put in the slot two, my gfx card, because dont fit my pcie x1 tv card if i put in slot 1 my gfx card.
Look my sistems
EJTREM3
Hi m8 i have the same nb cooler as you but on your pick it looks like you have the nut all the way down to the black plastic spacer. Is this so as i have a good 1.5mm space between mine on both side`s ??
Thank You :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
My concern is that I live in Singapore, pls advice :(
Do u guys recommend to replace the stock TIM of the PWM, with for example MX-2?, or it isnt worth the hassle
I would recommend changing it.... :yepp:
I dont know where I had read but some1 said u have to be carefull doing it since those chips are pretty sensitive, they arent the paste they used on isnt that sticky right?
Mine on the other hand was soft and moist and had good contact before I got rid of it by using earbuds.... :p:
My board is Rev A01.... :up:
I had 4x 2gb DDR2 1000 OCZ Platinium, is a good ram to do 450~500FSB on this motherboard ??
I've noticed that my board overvolts everything, so I've had to set the CPU VTT voltage a bit differently than mentioned at http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/12434-post9.html
However, the GTL settings do seem to be correct, once you get the CPU VTT voltage exactly the same as the "real" voltages mentioned at the page.
I'm now running 8x450 (3600MHz) with 1.328vcore , CPU VTT 1.310v, NB 1.510v. If I find these settings to be primestable, I'll post them here for ya :)
someone can tell me the distance beetween the two holes of the NB please ?
http://www.exoid.com/wp-content/uplo...3/img_1136.JPG
i need the distance beetwen holes we see on this HS ..
please afterburner can you measure for me the distance beetween two hole of the nb ?
Advice needed lads about to upgrade my CPU soon so which way would you go :confused: I'm mainly a gamer will be also be putting it under water once I know what CPU and GPU card I will be using. I was looking at the E8400 "Wolfdale", is this a better buy than the higher clocked E8500 for this board or should I wait for the Q9450 to come back in stock. I use photoshop and some video stuff, but like I said gaming is my main thing :up:
Sorry dude....time difference and I was on the verge of sleep typing :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by noobzed
Can the voltage read points from the link to Clunk's be applied to the P35 LT board?
I swear it is overvolting. Took my E8500 at 1.47v:(
Should do but the CPU GTL measure points are orientated slightly different as are the PLL/VTT measure points.
This may help http://edgeofstability.com/index.html it was made up for the P35.
My LP UT P35's CPU voltage measures pretty much the same measured with a DMM as what I set in BIOS with vdroop control enabled & something like a .03 ~ .04v over-volt with droop control disabled. DMM measure voltage is something like .02 ~ .03v higher than CPU-Z shows.
There are some areas of the voltage supply that get a bit funky as you run through the scale but I have never observed any wild over-volting rather under volting from what I set/asked for in BIOS if anything.
The LP UT P35 is a very powerful board & can max out anything you put near it real quick.
CN :)
Thank you for link!!
You rock:rocker:
For some reason and I can't explain why, I booted up at 580FSB and I was scaling in 5mhz increments as usual looking for the max FSB when the system cut off at 595FSB. At first I figured the CPU just needed more voltage but in the end I realized it was gone. I have been wondering about the real voltage the board was putting out.
Thanks again man:)
just recieved another 2gb of crucial ballistix 1066. i tried to match the batch number to my other set, but crucial is very sneaky imo when it comes to this, they wont give u the last 4 digits, even though i requested them. so i had no way of knowing they were one sided modules as the rest of the batch number was the same as my originals.
luckily they still overclocked fine upto 1142mhz, thats not bad for 4x1gb.
i just think these companies should be honest and be willing to release all information about there product.
The last 4 or 5 digits are the extension number and usually only on the modules themselves, the outside packaging box doesn't list these extension numbers so no way for someone to know unless the break the seal on the packaging. I guess crucial would have their own way of knowing maybe ?
yeah im sure they do , but they wont let u know i asked them. they say they wont release that information. and there all single sided now. im abit worried since ive read everywhere about how bad these single sided modules are. i heard there dieing after a month in most cases. damn.
only two are the 8FE5 the other two modules installed are the 16FD5 im not sure how having them mixed will effect performace but time will tell i guess.
i didnt have any die, i just read in about a dozen threads that there very short lived and troublesome.
i only had 2gb of the 16fd5 then i thought id try my luck and see if i could get another set of the same rev. but they sent me these single sided modules .
i just installed a 90 mm fan along them that will blow the hot air of them straight into a 120mm exhaust fan above them .
hope it helps with overheating.
Keep an eye on the heat spreaders they just come off for no reason... Use 1 inch binders to keep them in place.
I bet most of them died becase ppl where not active cooling them and combined with a hspreader that just peals off = death.
I still have my 4 sticks of 1gb double sided running since Jan/08 1200Mhz 2.1v (2gb sticks at a time). With OCZ XTC and Binders...
Hey anyone try this board with a Xeon 3360? I just got the Xeon today and put it in the X48 board with the 3/20 BIOS. I noticed that this new BIOS has a warning for the vCore and it goes up to 1.4500v before the numbers turn pink or red ... supposedly to let you know you may fry your CPU ... :rofl: Anywho, does anyone have a template for the quad 45nm Xeon? I have been out of touch with this thread and didn't read ALL of it yet ... so if anyone can give me a ballpark start, it would be greatly appreciated ...:up:
Just curious if going past the 1.45 vCore voltage would really do any harm to the 45nm processors ... so far with a little up and down experimenting, RealTemp hasn't shown anything over 55C ... just not quite ready to put a heavy load on this proc ... not yet anyways ... :D
Xeon 3360 w/IFX 14 and two Noctua NF-12P
LT X48 T2R
4GB OCZ Reaper PC2 8500 (2 x 2GB)
Yeah, had the same issue recently, I had to RMA one of my ballistix tracer 1066, got back a single sided, which sorta sucks because the LEDs are single rowed instead of the double I have on the other 3 stick. It's not killing me, just a minor drag. Now I'm have more memory problems, had to underclock them tonight just to pass 90 minutes of memtest. Not sure which I'm paranoid more about, the RAM or the P5K dlx. But that's why looking to go back to DFI and put a new system together. :) ( I have a 80mm fan I've been blowing on them and the NB, didn't help enough though.)
That's right, we had quite a few spreaders that came off at one edge - more pics here.
The last set of Tracers I got were D9 and had the old style heat spreaders on, and they too were already peeling off, so I removed them entirely and they have been my longest serving set of D9 RAM ever. :D
This was the Brand new set of tracers before I de-spreadered them.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...d/IMG_0199.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...d/IMG_0204.jpg
yeah same with older crucial pc2-8500 tracers i had http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4218 - one set hs was installed off center heh and other were lifting off... no probs with non-tracers even for older clip ones.. the tracer LED chip in middle of module is usually slightly taller than ICs forcing the gap from what i can see on mine.
not yet. hopefully soon.. got 5 sets of 2x2GB memory to test out on UT X48-T2R :D
I am also interested in this 'problem' of the Tracers.I have 4 sticks of 1 GB.Can you show some photos too with them after you 'fixed' them ?
Mine fixed :D
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...istixfixed.jpg
how do they work with no cooling at all?
How I fixed: I placed 5 1in binder on them then let a overnight Memtest #5 on tight timmings and high speed.
Now with the tape re-glued by the heat I only need 2 binders on each module and it will fit the 4 sticks without touching each other.
All with active cooling (OCZ XTC).
:up: Fixed:
http://i32.tinypic.com/2yvnltw.jpg
Sorry to be a pain, but I was hoping someone could answer my question regarding a vCore limit to the 45nm Quads ... in my case the Xeon 3360 ... :confused:
I am slowly working into this board and proc with 4GB OCZ Reaper PC2 8500. I can't quite seem to get a decent range of voltages that will let me go above 445FSB with either the 8 or 8.5 multi ... any suggestions? At 440 FSB with the 8.5 multi, and vCore around 1.36v she'll boot into Windows (XP 64) without a hitch, but as soon as I try to run Prime95, the first two cores halt immediately , yet the second two keep on working ... really weird shyt! I can bring it back down to stock volts and not a single problem with all four cores ... :confused:
I have been working with them today ... I started all over from scratch and now I am in a Prime run with settings as follows: vCore-1.26v(real 1.24v); CPU VTT-1.1v(same); NB-1.462v(real 1.45v); DRAM-2.19v(real 2.16v); 8.5 multi x 400 FSB, DRAM Target speed is 333/800, GTL is disabled for the time being ...
I have had it up higher and did some preliminary benching with SuperPi but what is the fault when the error says "NOT IN ROUND" or "NOT IN CONVERGENCE" or something to that effect? Do I need more or less of whatever?
thanks, now im really worried lol
i checked them they dont look like there pealing yet. and they seemed stable with all 4 at 1140mhz . but then today i got the c1 error and it wouldnt boot , i restarted and it boot ok. so im getting worried. and im too scared to run a memtest on them incase i get bad results. lol
Silly question, are the green and yellow board connectors UV reactive?
If X48 is like X38, then memory clocks maybe sensitive to clock fine delay values once oc'd - might want to fine tune the values for your memory http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4743 which can product very dramatic gains in some cases!
Greetings all,
Can't seem to get my X48, Q6600, or G.Skill PC28000 2gbx2 stable at anything past 3.6 on 333/800, or anything reasonable on 333/677. I know the chip can boot into windows at 4.2, and the memory clocks to around 1030. Would I use 333/667? When I do get anything remotely stable, I have corruption on downloads and random crashes in small applications (Firefox, pidgin), but they can OCCT for 30 min+.
Here are my current settings I'm using to achieve 3.6 barely stable.
Any help appreciated, as I have a sweet WC setup and want to hit 4 :up:Code:CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Disabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Execute Disable Bit.......................Disabled
Virtualization Technology.................Disabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled
Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 1
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Enabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x
CPU Clock.................................450 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/800
PCIE Clock................................100 MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.4V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.1V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.327V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A
DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................3
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................48
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................2
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................4
Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 456ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 534ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 289ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 400ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 367ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto
edit: I also have tinkered a bit with gtls, and maybe that was one of the reasons I hit 4.2 and posted one time. Any recommendations for 4.0-4.2ghz gtls and corresponding vtt?
double edit: I am no longer even stable at 3.6 for long periods, ater a while I get app crashes then bsod.
I just got all my new parts up and running but i keep getting random system freezes while playing games (Pro Street, Supreme Commander).
Running XP 32, 8.2 Catalyst. Rest is in signature. Not to sure if its related to voltage settings in the bios. Even with everything at the defaults in the Bios it still freezes.
Any help would be great.
Have you run 3dmark 06 yet ??
Yeah i did. Multiple times. Supposedly there is a compatibility issue with DFI X38 and 3870X2. Guess the problem was brought accross to the X48. Anyone know of a sure fire fix for this?
eva, ive been reading through that link,( since i just discovered im not occt stable).
my question is wouldnt setting fine delay to relaxed have the same effect? or am i better of reducing memory speed abit then reseting fine delay to match stable settings?
edit* relaxed settings didnt do anything, so forget that q's . still unstable with occt. im trying what u said and i reduced my memory speed. but i had to reduce fsb to reduce memory speed. how can i reduce memory speed only? it doesnt seem to have a separate setting for reducing memory speed? i overclocked using strap settings and increasing fsb i didnt increase memory manually.
also is occt to strict? seems stable with prime but looses out with occt.
For OCing and WCing, is it ok to stick with the stock SB heatsink? I'd expect so, since if I recall what I read somewhere, 2 of the things the SB is responsible for is the JMicron and the on-board sound, neither of which I'll be using I expect, plus that high intake fan on the TJ09 will probably put air right on it. I'm just in planning to order parts mode and wanted to see if I needed to snag something like an Enzotech SLF-1.
i reduced my fsb/memory to 450/1080 ive been running occt for 1 1/2 hours seems stable , so ill go into bios when its finished and note down fine delay settings. then increase fsb/memory back to 475/1140 with stable fine delay setting on manual.
edit* ok i did it , but the stable "current" settings wont match the manual settings? sometimes by more than 50. i had to use the closest figure. any way of setting it to the exact figure?
damn i cant get it stable at 475/1141 . becuase i cant set fine delay to the exact stable settings.
is it better to just keep lowering it till its stable? lower= stable? its a shame this bios wont allow me to set it manually properly.
I just ran prime95 for 11 hours straight with my q6600,
9x420 = 3780MHz
strap 400/800
vcore 1.392v
VTT 1,312v
NB 1.504v
And now I installed another 4 gigs of ram, let's see how high I can go with 8gb :) Now benching 9x425
damn lol i dont test prime more than 1 hour no more
puts too much stress on components for my taste
9 hours i bet you stable:rofl:
Nope, I use just prime.
425fsb gives a BSOD within 30 minutes. If the CPU isn't getting enough juice, shouldn't the prime worker threads just halt to an error? So, is this a memory/NB -related issue?
@zsamz_ - How did you put the X48 BIOS on your DFI X38 board?