upped pll from 1.60 to 1.62 and got thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/1-1-fail.jpg
since that didn't work, I'll drop vcore one, rerun and if that doesn't help drop it again........and if THAT doesn't work I'll get back to ya. ;)
EDIT: pll @ 1.62 and vcore down one notch to 1.55625 and got:
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...l162vcore1.jpg
HELP GRNFINGER
xxDayTrader,
What are you cooling that 6600 with? 75c seems way high...
lapped Q6600Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
lapped Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120
Artic Silver 5 TIM
given what i've seen in other posts here, i'm suspicious that i'm putting too many volts to my cpu
all in a Silverstone TJ07 case - all air cooled.
I have some OCZ plats in this board (not sure of the revision off hand, but they are rated @ 2.2v). I can get them to run up to 1063 MHz FSB, but id I go up one more notch on the CPU FSB (from 424 to 425 MHz), they don't post. Still trying to figure them out. Can you post your timings please?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
xxDayTrader
I think you might be over doing it with your CPU and RAM Voltage. Try some of this..
DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLED
Ai Clock Twister : Mod- Strong
Transaction Booster : Enable
Common Perf. Level : 7
CPU Voltage : 1.4V-1.45 (maybe less)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98 (your ram is rated for 2.0-2.1V @ 1000MHz)
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .67
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Well I'm going to take the Rampage BIOS dive again. I just got an 8GB kit of Geil Esoteria, and I'm having a little trouble getting it stable. So far I can only get it to DDR2-846 5-5-5-15 (rest set to auto for timings). I'm currently running the latest Maximus Formula BIOS. Any suggestions on the Rampage would be greatly appreciated.
I have my CPU and NB on water too.
I can't seem to find who was asking before, but the question was "what happens when you set the memory FSB to 1066 and all the ram timings to Auto?" The answer: same thing. DET DRAM hang :(
I also played around with setting the NB strap to 333, which brought the ram down to around 1021, then upped the FSB to 425 to see if there was an FSB wall @ 425 and got the hang again.
Grnfinger, that may be it! When I saw that post I figured it would be worth a shot, since I have never messed around with those timings before. I set the vdimm to 2.208v (actual) and set the DRAM CLK Skew on Channel AB to Advanced 350ps , then changed the FSB to 425 and it posted! It even went into Windows perfectly fine. I am now playing around @430 FSB (mem - 1071) and Priming away for about 15 minutes so far. Probably going to reboot and go higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Thanks! :worship:
Just for the hell of it I gave this a shot and I posted fine but got BSOD as Windows was loading up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
Going back to Grnfinger's 8x450 settings
CPU : 1.5625
PLL : 1.60
NB : 1.53
FSB : 1.52
DRAM : 2.02 -- this is what I've had mine at for a bit now.
.........AND AWAITING FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS
1071 went for 21 minutes so I stopped it. Now up to 1088 and Priming. How are my mem scores? They look so much better in Everest - I was using SANDRA before, which is reading them about 900 MB/s slower. :(
EDIT: Doh, two cores failed :(
Do any of you other guys use Intel Burn Test for your stability testing? Just asking as i see primarily Prime95 shots.
All right I flashed the latest 0701 Rampage BIOS and all is well at 475FSB. I'm pretty excited now....I was worried that this new Geil Evo One RAM sucked, but it seems it was just the MF BIOS that didn't play well.
I passed stability for an hour in blended.....good enough for now.
No, I just use Prime 95. I've heard some horror stories about people melting MOSFETs while stressing with the Intel tool. I ran it once and saw the temps.....it's WAY beyond what you'll ever experience in any computing environment. I was actually shocked to see how much power my CPU was consuming compared to Prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
I think it may be useful for a shorter run for those who are lazy (like me.) One thing is for sure: it will stress your CPU more than any application out there.
I have both OCCT and Prime95. I use Pirme95 because I need assistance and with Prime, I get more assistance. Hell, I'd run "I'mAPainInTheAssN00b.exe" if it would help things........ ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
How many Volt i can config for 24/7? The board is watercooled, so i havent any temp problems...
My damnit maximus extreme isnīt stable with 500 FSB@1.59 vNB ....
My old rampage did it with 1.35 vNB... Is x38 to x48 so different?
Hey guys is there a fix for the usb ports not working? I connected the front case usb cables and they wont work,is there a setting on the bios or something ?
TY
try a drop or 2 more of FSBT, it should help you, if not post your complete bios setup and I'll try your settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
I use IBT to do a quick test of my settings, 10 loop with min memory in use, till the chip will pass, then 10 loops with max memory till it passes, then I tweak volts to lowest and run a 15 loop with max memory in use, if it passses it then goes to prime for 4-8 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Prime is very good and over the last 6 months or so I have been making a spread sheet of Prime errors, I have a good idea what needs to be adjusted depending on what test it fails. Its not a 100% guarantee but usually it works
I wonder the chances of me getting 543*7 stable? Man that would be insane for memory performance.....now that my NB is on water I can push the juice. I seriously doubt it's possible......but one can dream, right? :p
I wish this chip had half multipliers.
on a 65nm quad?? I would like to see that :up:
Is it just me or does my RAM performance seem week for 1066?
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...RD/WeakMem.jpg
Hehe I know, that would be badass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
5-5-5-15 other than below settings leave to auto for now....Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Dram static read Disabled
AI clock twister Lighter
AI transaction Manual
Performance level [07]
Dram clock skew CH A 300ps
Dram clock skew CH B 300ps
Dram volt 2.14
Fsb term 1.28
NB voltage 1.55 (Real)
Settings are for max clock on ram.
Grn,
Any ideas on a black screen of death while priming?
I got my TRUE 120 today bumped up to 3.7 fine, primed for a few hours fine, bumped to 3.8 boot to windows ran a quick PI 1M, fired up prime ran 2 cycles reboot/BSOD, no blue screen no errors just like its rebooting the more voltage i toss at it the faster it crashes.....I'm thinking PSU.
Also anyone experience weird problems after a power outage or disconnecting power? This thing hangs on USB devices, loses hard drives, everytime after unplugging it to work on, never did it with the maxximus formula bios's. I have to pull all USB sticks out and unplug and plug one of my sata drives in to get it to realize it's there.
I've never experienced such issues with my MF. Do you have the PCI-E OCed high?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
set at 100, fsb strap to auto but this does this even at stock clock when power is disconnected :confused: like for instance i set everything to defaults saved. rebooted at stock. then shut down and disc power to install TRUE.Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Shawn i just ran it although I just have a trial ( no Key gen ), at stock settings on ram I getQuote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
8380 read and latency is 61.6ns. Looks like you might be able to tweak some stuff but it could be due to your overall cpu clock.
Zucker or grnfinger (or whoever with experience on this board with a 65nm quad and 8GB):
What timings do you suggest I run on my Geil Evo Ones? I can post my BIOS settings later, but I'm at 8*475 Prime blended stable with the same timings as SPD, except 18 instead of 15....I'll post more later when I get home from work.
I would like to run DDR2-1128 or so if possible.....I think these Evo Ones can take the voltage. The heatsink on them is amazing.
Do I gain performance from lower multplier, and higher FSB?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I guess so...
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d.../membetter.jpg
tried a couple drops on FSBT, lowered vcore and upped PLL (per your previous post) (did all one at a time and got failures each time). Here are the last 3 failures and the final BIOS (that went with the third failure) below.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...er/1-2fail.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...-9lastfail.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...r/1-2-fail.jpg
0308 BIOS
Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : MANUAL
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
DRAM CLK Skew A : Adv 300
DRAM CLK Skew B : Adv 300
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
1st Information: Manual through RAS# ACT Time / "Auto" for the rest 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
2nd Information : Auto (8-3-5-4-6-4-6)
3rd Information : Auto (14-5-1-6-6)
DRAM Static Read Control : ENABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONGER
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 7
CPU Voltage : 1.550
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .67
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
NB LED : NB Volt
SB LED : SB Volt
CPU LED : CPU Volt
Voltmeter: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
CPU Ratio Control : MANUAL
Ratio : 8
C1E Support : DISABLED
CPU TM Function : DISABLED
Vanderpool : DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit : DISABLED
Max CPUID Value : DISABLED
Yes, you will see improvement in benchmark programs, however the real question is will you see improvement in applications like games? That is the real question because not all gaming applications will see improvements from increase of bandwidth as not all games are codded to utilize that extra memory bandwidth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
You have to experiment with the software you have now and take notes and finally compare your results. Your best results will be with games that use large textures, or large environments.
As for other programs i believe that programs like Photoshop when working with very large resolution/numerous images will see improvements.
You will see a tremendous benefit in memory bandwidth and latency on Intel platforms due to the memory controller have to communicate to the CPU through the FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
Now on Intel Core i7 and AMD systems tighter timings normally take priority, as the memory controller is on the CPU die (thus behind the FSB.)
Ok here are my settings that are 1h20m prime blended stable:
Maximus Formula Converted to a Rampage Formula
I would like to get DDR2-1141 and tighter MCH latencies....so any advice is greatly appreciated.Code:BIOS: RF0701
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 475
DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A1 : AUTO (greyed out? don't remember that..)
DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A2 : AUTO (same, greyed out)
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B1 : advance 300ps
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B2 : advance 300ps
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950 (would like to run 1141)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18 (haven't tested lower much)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60 (maybe 65 or higher to clock higher?)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled (open to suggestions on this one..)
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [9]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.52500 (probably can run lower, just for now)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54 (don't know if I need this much)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
SB 1.5V: 1.60
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
Hey day can you do me a favor and run just small fft's, It would help to determine if it's system/ram related or just the cpu *EDIT* Actually it errored on 8k.....thats more than likely cpu related. I usually run small fft's first get CPU real stable then shift to dealing with the rest with blend after.
binormalkilla
Thanks for the info on oh the memory bandwidth is so linked to the CPU. As for what advice for you I would say try increasing CPU PLL Voltage. I had to raise mine. I think I'm around 1.58 to 1.62. Increase CPU GTL Reference to 0.67X. I've not had to increase my South Bridge Voltage or SB 1.5V. And running at 3.8 what is you core temps doing?
I pretty much just run small FFTs.... Once I started adjusting my RAM a bit I ran a large FFT and a Blend just to make sure the RAM had "some" stability. The tests above were all Small FFTs.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Mike
Not done testing yet this is just small fft's, loving the low volt OC's.
BIOS
cpu 1.325
PLL 1.50
fsb term 1.28
nb volts 1.45
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/8%20hours%20prime.jpg
Updated pic from a few days ago before i added the true 120.
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/updated%20case.jpg
Reason it's important to lap all heatsinks no matter how good they are or how much they cost.
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/TRUE.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Man, I can't get anywhere NEAR that low on cpu voltage without a BSOD as Vista loads up. ....ahhhh, back to my guesswork.
hmm, Im at 8 hours blend so far, probably going to shut it off soon, need to make sure 3d is stable as i have a clan match tonight.
My chip is a really low vid, but I would check your mount on your heatsink and or heatpipe assembly for chipset. I couldn't get over 3.2 on that OCZ cooler till I lapped it and got a good mount with the proper amount of thermal paste. I repasted the NB/SB the day i got the board.
some sweet ram clocks grn, looks like you didn't optimize that PI run yet, I'm guessing you can probably squeak out a sub 13 ;)
Here ya go 9 hours blend and still going, the timings I listed for OCZ platinum ram earlier appear to be stable for at least 1080mhz( I think they finally errored out in memtest on test 5 at 1120mhz ). Been surfing the net all day as well no issues. Gotta test 3d real quick match is coming up soon, Will try to push more later.
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/prime%...rs%20blend.JPG
3dmark 06
9x400
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9428367
3dmark 06
8x450
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9492767 0701 bios
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9493053 0308 bios
whether or not in games it will make a diff is another story, maybe 1/2-1 fps.
I think the 0701 bios is a little better performance wise for 3d, I ran the tests a few times and they were consistent.
Seems the 0308 is a little better for memory performance.
0308 bios
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/0308%20bios.JPG
0701 bios
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/0701%20bios.JPG
I am currently in the process of learning how Asus packages there bios modules(the units that make up the rom file), Aiming for a four phase project: extract, interpret, modify, and repack for use. Currently i have the tools to extract the modules, and I am currently in the process of interpreting the information...Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I know that it is possible to use customized bios files with any given motherboard as i have used several with board back in the day, I just never spent the time to see how they(the coders)compiled them...
Can you share your bios settings because i am trying to make my q6600 stable at 3.8 with my p5e@rampage308?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
THese settings on my board are prime stable for 1h20min so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDcomer
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=7829
Seems the 4870 scales a little better @ 3.6 versus 3.2 same clocks on card. I originally only gained 300 points @ 3.2g, now gaining 400+.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9502086 card @ 850/975 fan 50%
Have you double-checked the USB header? When I put everything in my new case I missed the pins by one row. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by KALISPIMENTA
A little bit. I am running close, but my timings are just a hair tighter. What PL are you running them?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
Chew*, what difference does the skew setting have on yours going from 300 to 350ps? I never messed with mine until the other day, and started at 350.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Also, in regards to your boot issue, do you have a USB drive in there every time? Is the machine trying to boot from it? I saw a computer I worked on recently have a black screen on it upon reboot, and when I noticed the flash drive in the USB hub connected to it, I pulled the drive and it booted.
So my pump died a couple of days ago, and I was experimenting with ways to run pumpless until I got a replacement pump. So I set my chip to the stock vcore of 1.232v, dropped the multiplier to x6 and started bumping fsb till I got this:
Edit: Idle was 50c on highest core, and prime blend load was 70 before I stopped it.
how did you manage pl8 w/ 1:1? what are your settings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
multi = x6Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
dram skews = 300 A/B
RAM timings = stock = 5-5-5-15
Dram Static Read = Enabled
Ai Clock = Stronger
PL = 8
vcore = 1.2500v (1.232v real)
cpu pll = 1.50 (1.58 real)
NB = 1.65
Dimm = 2.10v
FSBT = 1.60v (1.52v real)
SBV = 1.50v
SB 1.5v = 1.50v
LLC = Disabled
CPU GTL = x65
NB GTL = x67
Are you on a maximus formula x38 Rampage converted? or are you on an actual x48 rampage? I just can't figure out how you are getting such high fsb clocks on the Q9550.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
On a rampage...Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
This thing is rock stable.... I'm browing and and using word 2007....
Higher skew adds stability depending on the ram thats all, tony reccomends advance 300 so i rolled with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Iv'e got one USB stick modded for booting, one 8 gig for whatever and speedbooster in vista and a media drive.
I never had the issue with the maxximus bios's however and they appear to have the same usb options. I dunno what the issue is but as long as I don't disc power its all good. I already tried removing all USB devices, for some reason I think my old seagate is causing the issue because when it happens that drive dissapears and only reappears after i get it booting properly and unplug/plug it in hot.
My temps are somewhere around 50-60C on Prime95. Does FSBT help improve PL settings? I thought that was only FSB.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
Anyhow, I can't even post at DDR2-1141......meh.
binorma if those are the OCZ plats they start erroring around 1120, I really haven't played with them that much yet, I will see if I can get memtest to pass higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Well, after a lonnnng weekend, I think I'm finally on the right path with my OC. After a lot of help and suggestions, I was still getting errors in Prime (usually in the 8k tests). {Previous post with full BIOS : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=7827}. I documented every setting, and switched CPU, PLL, N Bridge, and FSBTerm to Auto, rebooted and took note of the readings in the BIOS hardware section.
CPU Voltage : 1.46
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.616
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.568
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Even in auto, I got Prime failures within the first minute. So, I took these settings and did my best to incorporate what was suggested to me here and came up with:
CPU Voltage : 1.5625 / actual : 1.552
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56 / actual : 1.664
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 / actual : 1.552
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52 / actual : 1.584
I got an error in Prime after an hour and a half but it did make it through the 8k range. From there I cut the PLL a bit (per Grnfinger's earlier recommendations), ran Prime, added to VTT, ran Prime, cut PLL again, more Prime, then bumped vcore and ran Prime again. That last move has been stable for almost 6hrs (once through Prime) and is still going (settings below)
CPU Voltage : 1.568 / actual : 1.552 (raise of .02 didn't show an increase in bios hardware)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 / actual : 1.61 - 1.63
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 / actual : 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54 / actual : 1.616
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...er/1-5pass.jpg
Assuming Prime is stable for 24hrs, I'm tempted to leave things where they are unless someone sees an error in my setup process, something alarming or something that could or should be improved.
EDIT: I'm kinda worried about my temps. I know they don't get to the 76 degree mark during normal use but is this something I should be fearful of? Considering every attempt to run a lower vcore results in Prime failures, I'm assuming I just happen to have one of those chips (or motherboards) that needs a lot of juice to OC.
Have you lapped with 800 grit, If you have lapped with higher relap with 800, higher grit hurts temps, what kind of paste.....arctic silver ceramic helps, are you running dual fans on that TRUE, and if you have done all of the above you can try adding a washer to the TRUE to apply more pressure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
CPU and the TRUE were both lapped down to 1500 grit (what can I say, i went to a military college and we shined stuff to the extreme). Perhaps I went too fine on the grit. I've read posts that support stopping at 800, others that said going finer was ok and others that said the finer the grit the better. I 'may' have used too much TIM (Artic Silver 5 btw). I don't think I did, but it's possible. Perhaps I'll take my rig apart and remount my heatsink. I knew my Silverstone TJ07 case wasn't the best for aircooling but my temps rise one or two degrees (in prime) when I have the side panel in place. (the dual fan / exhaust into the pc chamber video card I have doesn't help either). I do plan to go water-cooling eventually, just not right away ($).
That said...... do the temps seem out of place given the vcore setting I'm using?
Hello!
anyone have settings for maximus bios to reach 3.8Ghz on Q6600? whats best here? 475X8 or 423X9?
i have now 3.6Ghz stable, thanks to settings from this thread :)
Hard to say, each chips runs different, for instance mine runs hot even with low volts. FOr those volts it seems cool to me, just offering up more ways to bring temps down a tad more ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
@ simkin, if your board/cpu/ram is capable 475x8 will net you better bandwidth.
Re. temps........ what should I be trying to keep my NB at and what program to you (you all) like for NB temps? I have Asus Probe II but it's kinda buggy (ie picking up 4V readings on my DRAM for example) and sets off alarms that mysteriously fix themselves.
Anyone know what I should look to adjust for this failure 12 1/2 hrs in (man, it's alllllllways on core 3)?
CPU Voltage : 1.568 / actual : 1.552
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 / actual : 1.61 - 1.63
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 / actual : 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54 / actual : 1.616
RealTemp recored max temps of 78 for 2 cores, 73 for the other two cores (idle temps now are high 30's to mid 40's)
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...rprimefail.jpg
At last, I found some stable settings for q6600@3.8GHz:
Bios: 308
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 422
CPU Voltage: 1.55 (CPU-Z)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
North Bridge Voltage: 1.41
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
Loadline Calibration: Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
NB GTL Voltage Reference: 0.67x
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3842/38ghzpv2.th.jpg
vcore or fsbt will fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
hi i got an x38 maximus formula, is it possible to have 2 raid setups? i already have 2x 250gb drives in RAID0, but i also need a raid1 setup, i got 250gb of data on my media hdd and if that died i would probably cry. So is it poss to have a raid0 and a raid 1 setup on the mobo? or would i have to get a controller?
Absotutely, I have a RAID 1 & 5 right now on the ICHR. Your biggest issue is going to be ports. Most configs these days have a SATA CD, so you end up with 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBird28
Nah, they're the Geil Evo One's (4x2GB.)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
hi, i'd appreciate if anyone could tell me wich the latest rampage formula (x48) bios is that i can fit into my P5E :) 403 works like a charm, but perhaps (at least i hope so) a newer version will make it work even better.
many thanks in advance ppl!
btw, is there anybody out there with a Q6600 vid1.3125 that is also this high on volts? i mean 1.456v for Linpack 64bit 10 min stable (VTT 1.20, PLL 1.5).
the thing is that it is really difficult to get to 3.6GHz with this cpu... i had an older Q6600 G0 with the exact same vid that would do it with 1.55v (sold the sucker :p).. PLL and VTT don't seem to do the trick.. tried different STRAPS and MCH voltages too, till i got really fed up and let it sable as it is now. does anybody have any thoughts on this? would apreciate: trying to run 3dm_vantage with higher cpu clocks + my pencil-modded 4850 :)
New 65nm quads do not clock very well and they scale rather horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by vodka3dg
I have had 3 Q6600's and 1 Q6700 and they all needed atleast 1.4875 for 3600MHz.
imo 1.20vtt for 65nm quad at 3600 is way to low and is problably the problem.
I would recommend 1.40vtt and 1.60PLL, but it could be the Rampage bios on your P5E limiting your overclock. Have you tried to flash back and see if you can get the chip stable?
Sorry to hear about your pump, did you lose any hardware?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
you're probably right about new 65 quads... i got my hands on 3 of them (all vid 1.3215), and even thought some say vid has nothing to do with OC potential the three of them made me feel a complete chump for buying/recommending them, oc potential wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
i did go back to (i dont remember wich) P5E bios... with my previous quad i could switch between RF and P5E maintaining the overclock. still, the only 2 reasons i still use the RF bios is because it has many more options (of which i don't know if all ar functional :rolleyes: ) and the lovely post splash screen i get :D so i wouldn't mind switching back to the corresponding bios.
thanks for the advice on PLL and VTT... i tried 1.6PLL, but it didn't cross my mind going that high on vtt :) i'll start with FSB400x9 then (if success) test FSB450.. the later one would be the best choice obviously :D
another question... do you, or anybody else know how much fsb to expect when using STRAP 266? thks :up:
Cory, thanks. I did lose my raid0 setup. Strangely, this was right after I did a bios flash from 0308 to 0701. I don't want to blame it on that, but I suspect something went awry. I did lose a lot of valuable software/media collection. I got a new pump so all is well and dandy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Oh, I got my filthy paws on a 4870 x2. :up:
ok cheers fella. I use the intel matrix software im sure will sort it. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by chawks2
Anyone who flashed from the Maximus Formula to Rampage have the problem where temp monitoring on the nortbridge and voltages on RAM and NB just go away? I monitor temps and voltages on my G15 and they just disappear after some time....weird.
:bounces: me too :bounces:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
its in tha mail now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
When I did the flash I had the same problem, I updated my chipset drivers and all was well.
Need some help! can someone with a q6600 and some g skill f2-8500cl5-2gbpk memory post their bios settings.I had to reflash the bios and didnt save my oc and now cannot get 3.6ghz stable.
Thnak You
Using the same installation as before? Just overwriting or what? I have to reactivate Vista too :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I'm going to update the chipset drivers tonight. Maybe the Intel installation program will recognize different driver files or something.
Thanks!
BTW enjoy that 4870X2....she's a beast!
*jealous*Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
some bandwidth pr0n. tested memtest86+ stable last night testing lower and lower volts. currently 2.14 *working in reverse from 2.25*
this is 2x1gb newegg ram (crucial lanfest) pc6400
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cachemem-5.png
if you want my settings let me know.
Jeebus man that is some sweet ram, NICE timings!! :clap: :clap: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
gotta link?
Holy crap man that's insane. Great job.:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
You can overwrite older chipset drivers, but I do a clean install.Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
fyi grab a OEM version of Vista and activation will be a thing of the past.
Dell's OEM version works ratehr well.
Yea I bought that retail copy....meh. I'm going to overwrite for now, but if I have any problems then I'll just reinstall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Ai Overclock Tuner : ManualQuote:
Originally Posted by KALISPIMENTA
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 450
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Advanced 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Advanced 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay : 14
READ to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Performance Level 7
CPU Voltage : 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
this ram was discontinued in 2007 :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148144
dropped it down to 2.14v memtest86+ 100% stable :up:
and screw vista, get server2008!
Thanks for the link m8, To bad about the ram, I'm sure I could find it tho, we have great resources at work!
Server 2k8 any good for gaming/networking?
I game and I need ax to work computers via VPN, I have 5 computers at home all networked and a NAS, so it MUST work :D
Should I try increasing my clock skew to 350ps (picoseconds?) in order to help RAM stability? I still can't post at DDR2-1140 :( I'm at 300ps right now....haven't tried 250 either....
since ive switched back to 2gb im using xp, but server2008 was my main os for quite a while. its faster than vista, rock solid, and can look exactly like vista aero. you can download it for free and use it for 240 days. the conversion is really easy, use this utility and enable/disable what you want. for the gameux dll file, copy it into the system32 directory first or it will give you an error. also extract all the files first it is very very important. you can configure what services run after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
you will LOVE the power of the os.
also, more pr0n, i was trying to see how the voltage scaling would go and ran out of cpu shortly after hitting this its a bit looser timings, but you will love the speed. this ram is incredible on this motherboard.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cachemem-6.png
5-5-5-15 @ 2.32v :up:
Thank you for such detailed settings grnfinger will text tonight:D
I can't even post at PL7 at 423*9 :(. I've tried a few different pull-ins on PL9 and it's not stable. I reboot after ~45minutes of Prime blended. The same with PL8. I suppose it's the 8GB holding me back.
Has anyone had success with overvolting the MCH with +10mV (or 20, 30?)
EDIT:
I'm going to try testing with 2x2GB sticks later.
hey guys. I have an opportunity to basically swap out my board for a true x48 Rampage. Would I be able to break the with that board? How high do the Q9550 go on the x48 Rampage? or shoudl I look for a p45 if I want to push this chip?
Ok well no luck on any better PL settings with 2 sticks....what gives? Something's missing.....maybe my MCH just isn't the best compared to others? Meh......not giving up yet....runing 0701 BIOS, so maybe I should go with another version?
what is your settings?Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Check this post. I've tried a lot of different voltages, different pull-ins, CLK skews, you name it. I'm stable at these settings, which gets me just shy of 9K write and 57.2ns in Everest. I came from a 4GB Geil Esoteria kit that ran DDR2-1128 at really high voltage (something like 2.4V, but it warrantied up to 2.5V.) I was in the 9s with that kit IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
333 strap, pl7, clock twister to moderate. you will probalby want to drop your fsbt and nb volts. your computer is crying in pain from those volts. also i have not ever had to exceed 200 skew. it could be that your ram does not want to clock that high.
you could always buy my dfi too... that is supposed to cruise 8gb no problem.
Yea I only have my NBV that high for testing. I have it on water so it loads in Prime blended at 32C. I'll try turning down the FSBT, but IIRC it needed to be fairly high....maybe not that high though :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
BTW I'll try moderate, but I wouldn't even post at lighter at PL7 IIRC. I tried 333 strap as well. I'll give it another shot though. Thanks!
PL7 is still a no go with those settings :(
my guess is your ram is not going to clock as high as hoped.Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Yea I don't think it will either.....however my tRD should be able to be tightened independently of the RAM from what I've read.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Maybe I'll try another BIOS version.
try 4GBs and see if you can clock the ram a little higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
I have never needed anything above 1.53 for vNB and that was at 485+FSB
bios 308 is still the best imo
Hi I need help please to overclock Q9450 which I have managed to overclock to 3.21GHZ but cannot go any higher as really I am not sure what I need to do, and unfortunatly I dont have the time to do the trail and error approach as I have a young family and my wifes giving me what for for spending hours on my pc!
I have flashed my Maximus formula to Rampage and I am using bios 601 .
I have Corsair Dominator ddr2 1066 ram
I would like to get 3.4 or 3.6 ghz is this possible on air cooling?
Any help or settings would be greatly appriciated!
My settings
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066MHz
DRAM Command Rate : auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 DRam clocks
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : auto
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage :auto
South Bridge Voltage : auto
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference :auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Auto
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto
vDroop Mod / vCore Mod / EPU Mod
Tested extensively with OCZ ddr 1066, don't expect anything more than 1110 out of them for 24/7 stable. Tried every option in bios save slack timings which would be pointless.
From a different point of view this is better than those who bought OCZ ddrII 1200 that can't reach 1200 speeds with this board, IIRC they max out at 1150.
Ugh...... I'm about to throw in the towel after yet another Prime failure last night.
CPU : 1.575 (actual 1.56)
PLL : 1.52
NB : 1.49
FSB T : 1.52 (actual 1.62)
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...owler/fail.jpg
Before I go crazy I think I need to get some clarification. As you can see, I've got my voltages pretty high as it is (max temps were 80 in 2 cores with 15 degrees to tjmax) and I think I'm at the level where pushing my cpu or vtt with any more juice might start doing some damage (although, I may be off base here).
Is it likely that the 48k error I had was due to something else like my RAM, graphics card, PCI-E frequency, or maybe even Windows? I ask because when I woke up and turned my monitor on to see how the night went with Prime, Windows was acting "funny." I was as if someone was hitting Alt/Tab all the time because every time I'd click on the prime window, the realtemp window, or even the start "button," within a few seconds that window would de-select itself. Just shutting down without resorting to holding in the power button took some quick finger speed to key the windows key, arrow down and hit enter to get "shut down." This may have been because of a Tivo Server program that I had installed because there were half a dozen Tivo Server error boxes open as well - I uninstalled it this AM.
Hell, I dunno. I'm frustrated and not sure what to do next. I don't drink anymore so getting bombed isn't an option like it used to be. :D
Lay it on me fellas. Would a reformat / window reinstall do any good? (I hesitate because, like an idiot, I have a lot of data on my c-drive and I'm not sure I have enough space on my other drives to hold it all......not to mention tracking down all my firefox favorites, password saves, game sign-ons and saves, and so forth) Should I continue to raise voltages? Should I just call it "close enough is good enough" with 9hrs stable and leave things alone? Should I go back to 9x400 and see how that works? Should I sell this rig on ebay and go buy a Dell and quit bothering all of you? ;)
So are you running 950 or 1140?Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
That chip is too hot. What cpu gtls are you running?Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
Day how new is your Q6xxx series chip?
Mine is from an old batch and a year old. Older batches clocked better. The newer batches are ok at best might just be your chip holding you back. Heard a lot of experienced guys feeling like chumps at overclocking with the newer batch Q6xxx.
I bought it in Feb 08 +/- direct from Intel (through an Intel employee).Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
CPU GTL : .67Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
and NB GTL : .67