Try enabling the phase pull ins, that should get you a little more.
Try enabling the phase pull ins, that should get you a little more.
I did, However the system would not post after enablling them (3 per channel / 2 channels) system would not post. Ill be honest i don't know much about how the phase pull ins work(what needs to be increased if anything to get them to work).
I afraid that this wont help any, but result of mine Q9550 @ 3.8GhzQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00328/3273055.jpg
Just if you want to compare, My 4870 was 760/950 so i could say that nearly on stock setting
ah I squeezed alittle more out of my card and broke 10000, looks like is time to go gpu shopping, I seem to be at the limit with this one...
subscribed.....gonna read this later...
Just wanted to share my little O/C.
Seeing and ready some what most of the end of this thread, i see other people are seeing the "auto" voltage setting is over-volting as well.
After a few adjustments i have seen some amazing O/C's with my E8600.
Mind you that this is on air and max load temps were 69c at 1.42v (bios)
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...40-2000fsb.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...aw/44-2200.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...45-1800fsb.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=471360
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...46stable-2.jpg
So for the large photo :(
what did you get your card clocks up to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
mine stabilized at 945/1080 (both cores/mem)
Tried BIOS 701. Was able to get my RAM to 925 with it.... Would only do 771 with 308. Probably sustained a bandwidth penalty though.
Hey guys. Nice FAQ BTW
Is it possible to flash a maximus extreme to rampage extreme? I believe its the same board only the DDR3 is the different. Thx for answer
OK, I'm back with the new and improved settings. I want to get this up and running at 1066 for the ram (should be 5-5-5-15 according to SPD @2.1v), but every time I set it that way (only changing the divider and the timings above) I get a DET RAM hang. Suggestions??? Right now I am testing the NB strap @ 333 and the ram @ 962, 5-5-5-15. Boots OK, and bandwidth was about 7777 MB/s.
Also, I am still looking for suggestions on a new PSU to power this board. Thermaltake 1200W is out, as I know the two I tried didn't work well with this board. Any other ideas?Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2t
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.41875 (1.4 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto (1.616 actual)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63 (1.648 actual)
DRAM Voltage : 2.04 (2.112 actual)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52 (1.44 actual)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 (1.12 actual)
Loadline Calibration : disabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto (1.056 actual)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55 (1.584 actual)
EDIT:
Doing some more testing. I have set the strap to 266 and lowered the multi. I have manually set the PL @ 6. I have slowly increased the FSB up to 420 MHz, and then to 425 MHz 1 MHz at a time. I can boot at 424 MHz, which puts the ram at 1061. However, if I go up just 1 more MHz to 425, the ram goes to 1066, and the mobo does a "soft" power-off before rebooting. When it comes back up, I have the DET DRAM hang.
Why can't I get over the wall? :(
Has any one removed the IHS from the north bridge chipset and if so how?(without destroying the MB in the process).
I would imagine the same thing could be done for Extremes, as is done for the formulas.... Good time to be a Guinea Pig ey? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Inpanic
I think it is; went to the microcenter yesterday for parts for a build and picked up a BFG NV GTX 260 OC. Here are my stock results @ 4Ghz (Q9550 @ 8.5 x 471).Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Damn, i think Maximus extreme to Rampage extreme dont works perfect.... U cant config ur voltage settings... dunno why (i think the bios are different or so)
Its rather simple, remove the screws, pull on the NB ( you might have to take a screw driver and use the dimm slot for leverage and GENTLY pry up on the NB)Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Once you remove it, settle in for a while you now get to remove the cement like tim.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...DSCF0128-1.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...DSCF0126-2.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...DSCF0127-1.jpg
I'm going to get a 4870X2 2GB I think, cant go green as much as I would like to:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I would like to toss another 3870X2 for crossfire, but dont want to make the investment if it wont pay off...
Yeah, if I had the dough, I might have considered x2 on the red team, even though I think the 295 x2 is going to be the new bad boy for a bit. I'll be overclocking the card in the next few minutes, see what it's about. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
great this will give me chance to see what the card can do,
I got my 3870 to 900/1000 atm, will push it harder on Vantage after a few 3d06 runs, need a better HWBOT score :D
First oc. in; vantage next, then bump cores/freq. again. Not looking bad so far for air; fan @ 75%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
No.1 on the ORB for similarly configured systems.
Hello again fellas. I'm new to this and kinda need to know where to go / what to work on next. This is my first oc so I'm doing a lot of reading and learning as I go. Here's my current setup and, at the risk of sounding like a 'tard, I guess I don't know what the next step is or what I should focus on from here to improve my system performance. I'll try to not ask too many questions along the way (plus, I know I learn better the more research I do).
9x400 BIOS Settings (24hr prime stable)
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...x400stable.jpgCode:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 800MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : (5)
RAS# to CAS# Delay : (5)
RAS# Precharge : (5)
RAS# ActivateTime : (15)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
CPL: 8
CPU Voltage : 1.54375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF + 10mv
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: DISABLED
Vanderpool: DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit: DIABLED
CPU TM Function: DISABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit: DISABLED
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...tand3DMark.jpg
Hmm, your statement is a bit vague because it seems you don't have a overclocking goal in mind, like a definite target? Systems can be improved always depending on how far you want to go to "improve" them. In short, what is your target overclock? Not bad at all, but certainly can be improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
Vantage scores:
Heh, I guess therein lies the problem. I don't have a "target" because I don't really know WTF I could/shoot shoot for. Perhaps that's where I could use some direction. I've basically hit a wall with my knowledge and don't know what I should be trying to accomplish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
..... I hope that makes some sense and.....THANKS for the reply (from one Michigander to another ;) )
Nice score m8 :clap:
Heres my 3d06 @ 900/1000, going to push it further to see what I can get.
Thanks, you too. 22k is within reach. I'm at 1992 now 3dm 06, better watch out with that x2, I may be cranking things on the cpu side :D (8.5x500). I think I'm nearing shader limits as it won't do 1600 (3200) without artifacts. I may be able to squeeze a little bit more on the core and the memory. I wonder what the limits of these cards are, would be nice to compare my ocs to some others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Oh hi, mate! Didn't notice; weather is looking good today, don't know about the winds though. Anyway, generally speaking, it all depends on your hardware and cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
Best thing to do right now is to shoot for that 3.6ghz "standard" of the G0s. I suggest 8x450 for a nice speed boost.
There are many OC profiles on the first page you can use. I suggest you begin there and then ask for help if and when you ran into problems.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Grnfinger, I think he's referring to the IHS on the NB, not the NB heatsink. To my knowledge, the only ones I saw that had been removed got killed in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
On, to my latest struggle...
When I set the FSB to 425, it hangs at DET DRAM. So I looked at the OCZ site for my ram, and it says 2.1v - 2.3v, but not to exceed 2.1v if it says so on the lable. Mine seemed perfectly stable at 2.1v, so I didn't think anything of it before. I looked at the stickers and it says 1066, 5-5-15 at 2.2v. So I bumped up the juice to 2.21v and it posted, but locked up on the post screen. I reset it and upped the voltage again to 2.3v, and it posted again, at least occasionally. Sometimes I would get a weird error saying "New CPU installed. Update the BIOS to take full advantage of the features for this CPU." Other times I got a Bootmgr error and Windows wouldn't load :eek: The CMOS wouldn't reset right away for that one either - it took a little trying :(
I was up to almost 2:00 am last night working on the FSB issue. I got tired of trying to figure out why it wouldn't hit 425 FSB and ran Prime at 9 x 424 (3.8 GHz). It went for over 9 hours error free. :confused:
Included for your viewing pleasure is a MemSet ss. Any suggestions for getting over the 1063 MHz wall would be appreciated.
I tried every one of them and either hung at DET RAM or had stability issues. I was eventually able to get things stable at 8x450 for a 24hr Prime run by increasing my voltages one by one but they had to be much higher than any others I saw around here/the net and my temps got pretty high during the stress test. Here were my 8x450 settings from a previous post here...if you see where I might have messed something up please feel free to correct me:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=7647
For now, I'm using all my 9x450 settings but had to change CPL from 8 to 9 or I got BSOD when the OS tried to load (post was fine). I'm wondering if I had one of my CPU Config settings different than I do now or had something else changed because I didn't figure I'd get anything other than BSOD with these CPU, PLL, NB, and so on volt settings. Will start Prime and see what happens.
I think both your nb and cpupll volts are too high for that overclock. You'll be surprised, but I'm sure even all auto settings would give you lower volts and still stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
First off, run on the 333 strap, set both gtls to 67, advance both DRAm clockskews to 300 each
Set PL to 8
Too high vcore can also become a problem but you should generally add .40v for that 400mhz difference between 3.2 and 3.6ghz.
I'll set pll to 1.60v (real), check hardware info section in bios
NB to 1.55v
Run ram 1:1 so 900mhz 5-5-5-15 (you can tighten things later) set full max recommended volts too; test later with memtest if you're still having problems
Hopefully, this is not a cpu wall. remember, not all chips can do 3.6ghz stable. Goodluck.
Prime went for 5 minutes then got an error.... suggestions?
Attachment 91625
EDIT: just noticed the post above this one. Will try those recommendations.
......and thanks again, thanks a lot.
made all your recommended changes but I have 2 questions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
1. Re. vcore... you suggested adding .4v because I moved from 3.2 to 3.6ghz. Are you suggesting I increase the vcore from 1.54 to 1.58? --- just want to clarify
2. My PLL voltage... No matter WHAT I change it to, when I check the hardware section in the bios to see what it's 'really' at, I get the same reading: 1.68 or 1.69. I changed it down and checked, moved it down/rebooted/rechecked and still the same thing..... it always reads 1.68 or 1.68.
Other than that, all the other suggestions have been applied and I'll give Prime another shot.
Mike
You need 1.54v for 3.2Ghz?Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
I think i may have miss spoke. I meant the actual IHS(the silver shim that is glued on top of the north bridge like a CPU has).Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I also have a heat gun that is capable of up to 500C(did not use it at that setting). That is how i go the "cement" like TIM of in under a minute. I would just like to know where the resistors and such are so i don't cut into them with a utility blade.
Hey xxDayTrader, just out of curiosity do you have the 8 pin supplemental power connector plugged in? The one that sits behind the IO connectors.
YES, I do. Do my numbers look suspect? I'll recheck to make sure the plugs are seated firmly though.Quote:
Hey xxDayTrader, just out of curiosity do you have the 8 pin supplemental power connector plugged in? The one that sits behind the IO connectors.
No, I don't recall what I needed for 3.2 to be honest. I was 24hr stable at 8*450 with 1.55625 vcore and 1.76 PLL. Now, I believe I've got vcore at 1.54 and PLL at 1.6.Quote:
You need 1.54v for 3.2Ghz?
Does this help:
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...aremonitor.jpg
see if you can post with this:
Bios:
CPU v: 1.45
CPU PLL: 1.5
FSB Term V 1.4
North bridge 1.53~1.55
If your using the 400 FBS strap use:
static read to enabled
AI Clock Twister to light(for now)
set your memory PL to auto(for the moment as its a wired bug with this board then for 450FSB set no lower than PL 6, but start at 8 or 7 then walk it down between post).
Also a good rule of thumb i have found with this board; change the voltage/save before you change the multiplier/frequency/PL values in the bios.
Zucker had me change it to the 333 Strap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
For what it's worth, when set to Auto, booted into Windows and restarted I got the following settings in the BIOS Hardware section:
CPU Vcore 1.46
PLL 1.616
NB 1.63
DRAM set to 2.20 by me (this is the max Mushkin "recommends")
Anyway, left in AUTO for those 3 settings (and FSB Strap @ 333) I tried Prime and after about 1 minuted I got BSOD.
Commander, I'll try those just for S&G. :up:
Actuals were:Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
CPU v: 1.44
PLL : 1.60
FSB Term: 1.45
NB : 1.55
POST was OK but BSOD as OS was loading up.
I don't think you really need to worry about it. Throw a waterblock on it and you should be good. I have 1.65v going into mine and temps are always around 25C.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Otherwise, if you're still insistant, you could do a google search for dead ones :rofl:
nice score! lets both push for 22k today, me on dual you on quad :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
The reason why i ask is because i have not move to water cooling yet so i am stuck with the default maxims formula(non SE)north bridge heat sink atm. Leaving me to have to fight to cool the north bridge so it stays under 55cQuote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
what voltage are you using? i can run up to 540fsb with the rampage mod @ 1.53 which keeps the nb at 48c. that is with the factory heatsink with a antec spot fan on it. i did however re-do the thermal material *to tell you the truth for me it was very easy because there was no cement or anything like that... seemed like it was already done with mx2, so i re-did it with ceramique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
1.53 Bios, Everest says 1.57. I have not tested lower though... currently IBTing and NB is at 61, SB is at 57
test lower nb volts. my nb sets the voltage dead on, yours is obviously over volting. try 1.49? what fsb are u running?Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
If you remove the IHS, you may not be able to get the stock heatsink as tight. Sort of like the Athlon chips and how clip-on heatsinks no longer worked with the RM in stock condition. Yo may have to do some modifying to get it to sit again.
Before I did have better luck with air cooling when I had a fan directly on the NB heatsink. TBH though, it would have been a lot better if I had just replaced the TIM. After seeing what mine looked like when I took it off for watercooling, I wonder how it ever got cool at all with the stock TIM. :mad:
Been having a strange problem lately of my Western Digital 500GB HDD dropping in Vista and going from NTFS to uninitialized and then getting converted to RAW where I have to recover the data and reformat the drive as NTFS.... Does anyone know what the problem could be? Its a rather new drive on Rampage Formula 407, and I am using RAID mode but this drive is not part of an array.
I also ran Spinrite on the drive, and nothing came up out of the ordinary.
Is it an REII?
Yep
Any people have flash the new RF bios (701) on MF??
yeah. seems on par, nothing special, but all I have to compare it to is 0601. Also, didn't solve the 430 fsb wall with 45nm quadcore.
i took a old socket a cpu heat sink. i hacked it up, drilled a few holes, lapped it, put a small fan on it, put it on my n/b with artic silver and it stays much cooler then the stock se block did..
That 430 FSB wall only seems to occur on X38, X48 flies past it with ease.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
They have heat issues. Is the drive in very close proximity to another? Does it have air going across it?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
The whole rack in the case has 2 120mm fans goin across it, the drive is never above 30c...Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
Also why does my transfer from drive to drive start out at like 180-200MB/s and drops off to like 20-30MB/s?
Help please i was playing a game when my pc crashed when it restarted a the bios setttings were gone and the pc hangs on the blinking _.i tried installing windows again, system restore, clear cmos from the back and nothing always hangs on the blinking line (-)any ideas? ty
Sounds like an issue with the drive or the cable. Have you tried another cable?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Just used a different cable. Will see how it fairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
Hello guys,
Well after the fist post i did in this thread (post #7706), i did some voltage changes at the heart of the board.
Surprised myself with my findings.
I thought i would run a couple of tests to see just what voltage it took to make my O/C's stable.
As you can see from my last post that my voltages were kinda high to start with. But after adjusting most of the settings that count, i ran with it.
So these 2 tests were done with IntelBurn software, 10 irritations to be sure of stability 2X.
For each test run, i dropped the voltage to CPU 1 increment until i came up with the correct voltage required for my CPU.(Screen shots provided below)
Asus Rampage Formula
Intel E8600
Voltage as follows:
CPU ********
CPU PLL 1.50v
NB 1.55v
Dram 2.14v @ 2T
FSB Term 1.36v
SB 1.050v
SB 1.5v Voltage 1.50v
Load Line Enabled
All other voltage settings set to auto.
All the setting above were left alone on these tests, only adjustments i made were to CPU voltage.
(1.33750v to CPU bios)
4400mhz x 8 @ 2200FSB, Bus speed 550.0mhz @ 59c load temp.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...b133750v-1.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...133750v2-1.jpg
(1.24375v to CPU bios)
4000mhz x 8 @ 2000FSB, Bus speed 500.0mhz @ 50c load temp.
As you can see i threw the Asus Probe software in there to help with CPU voltage confirmation. Yes it is a bit buggy as well.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...sb124375v2.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...fsb124375v.jpg
As you can see in the screen shots i managed to get my CPU O/C'd stable with a huge decrease in voltage to CPU. :)
A Thank you to Renegade5399 @ BPC for the voltage help :)
I hope this will help others in the long run with there o/c's.
Source thread @ BPC
Enjoy :)
With these settings Prime went about 2 1/2 hours before there was a hardware error in one of the cores. Usually, I'd begin to bump vcore, then give it another shot, and slowly bump the PLL, NB and/or FSB (documenting along the way) to figure out where they had to be to get a 24hr stable run of Small FFTs in Prime 95 unless one of you guys have a better suggestion.
With vcore, PLL and NB set to Auto, I got a POST, booted into Windows. I restarted and got the following settings in the BIOS Hardware section:Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : MANUAL
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : LIGHTER
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 8
CPU Voltage : 1.54375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .67
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF +10mv
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
NB LED : NB Volt
SB LED : SB Volt
CPU LED : CPU Volt
Voltmeter: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
CPU Ratio Control : MANUAL
Ratio : 8
C1E Support : DISABLED
CPU TM Function : DISABLED
Vanderpool : DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit : DISABLED
Max CPUID Value : DISABLED
CPU Vcore 1.46
PLL 1.616
NB 1.63
--DRAM set to 2.20 by me (this is the max Mushkin "recommends")
In AUTO for those 3 settings (and FSB Strap @ 333) I tried Prime and after about 1 minuted I got BSOD.
Thanks again guys.
Anyone?
I had a similar problem years ago and it turned out to be a HD issue......but you said you were able to reinstall the OS whereas I wasn't able to.Quote:
Originally Posted by KALISPIMENTA
i install it but at start up hangs again it wont pass the black screen with the blinking _.tried new memory disconnected hds and nothing.im on the asus support phone line by the 2nd time now for 30 minutes Now with no luck*.god i miss evga support:(
edit:omg no help what so ever,right away rma 12 to 21 business days.Guiet tech guy with no answers??!!
Anyone else with ideas browsing the net on this ppc is fliping me out.
had the same issue. Turned out to be a grounding issue. the (-) I was told is a general fault code that encompasses many things. Asus support told me it is most commonly a grounding thing, which turned out to be my problem. Unplug all your peripherals, put your system on a grounded power bar and make sure the case isn't conducting.
Grounded power bar?ty for the help.this code is generated on the screen correct?
what country R U in?
If ur not in the US, I'm not sure what they call them but I'm referring to a grounded surge protector plug, just to rule out your electrical source as the issue.
So I finally get time today to open my RMA from Asus, with teh holidays and all its been a busy week, and the wife gave me the evil eye whenever I went near it...she was kinda piss'd about my 2 hour benching session on Christmas day...go figure
Been waiting since August and 3 RMA's later to get my board back and working.
So I sent them a Maximus Formula SE and they were supposed to send me a Rampage as the SE is no longer in stock, guess what they sent me?
A freaking Maximus II Formula, now what the hell am I going to do with 2 boards of the same chipset?
I want to laugh, but not at you, just the idiocy of ASUS's RMA department.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I'm not pleased but it is a nice upgrade, I just did not want 2 boards of the same platform, I was looking forward to benching a bit tonight with it.
are both PCIE slosts 8x or is one of them at lest 16x(physical/electrical)?
yes one is 16x and one is 8x
I dont do crossfire tho so its of little importance to me, my new GPU will be a 4870X2 2GB card so it will not be an issue
Yeah having at lest one 16x slot is fine. Just couldn't remember if they where both 8x or not.
out of spite you should bench that board to a early death *less than 72 hours* and rma it again to asus and tell them to correct the order! i want to see 600fsb quad!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Grnfinger,
I got my G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK from Newegg today. Whats your recommended settings and starting point for these?
Ahh new ram :bounces:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
What clocks are your running your 6700 at?
Heres my Q6700 3.6GHz setup
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advanced 250ps ( assuming your ram is in the blue slots)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advanced 250ps ( ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ )
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.46 ( start here that what mine needed, you can adjust from here)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 ( you can try to lower this)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Finally decided to play with this some more, been running @ 3.2 for a while with stock volts so i figured I'd tackle my temps issue and lapped this scythe ninja copy. Finally got somewhat stable temps and completed prime for an hour with 1.325v, benched it in 3dmark also. Still needs alot of tweaking and the OS seems to boot a little sluggishly, I will play with non cpu volts tommorow to determine which is the culprit, most likely the southbridge.....
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9428367
Whats a decent PI 1M time with this setup? I'm pulling 14.172s untweaked for PI with sig parts.
Prime didn't error, but it looks like my 3rd core (normally the one that errors) stopped.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d.../OCing/new.jpg
Thats odd my q6600 does 3.2 at 1.225v (stock VID) and the board undervolts it to 1.208.......then again it is #47 out of a batch but I didn't think batch really mattered when they glue 2 dies together from other batches.
You sure it not you memory settings?
I figured out why windows was sluggish, Hosed my OS with a couple BSOD's finding stable settings, reinstalling now, appears alot snappier.
Might be, but I upped my CPU V and I think that fixed it.
If it still craps out, it has been my findings that if you drop a core on 1042 test up vtt or vNBQuote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
LMK how you make out
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...x450stable.jpgCode:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : MANUAL
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : LIGHTER
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 8
CPU Voltage : 1.5625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.06 (might have been 2.08 - can't read my writing)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .67
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
NB LED : NB Volt
SB LED : SB Volt
CPU LED : CPU Volt
Voltmeter: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum : DISABLED
CPU Ratio Control : MANUAL
Ratio : 8
C1E Support : DISABLED
CPU TM Function : DISABLED
Vanderpool : DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit : DISABLED
Max CPUID Value : DISABLED
These settings ran stable for about 4 or 5 hrs and even though I worked up very slowly to them, I hoped to bring some of my temps down (maxed out around 74 degrees in 2 cores / 69 degrees in the other two) from Real Temp. If I bumped Vcore, PLL, NB or FSB down even one step I'd get an error in the 3rd core of Prime. So, I went back to my original settings and am running Prime again just to be sure I don't get any errors.
Assuming this looks OK, I'd like to get into improving my RAM but, much like what I've done so far, I'm rather in the dark about where to start, what to adjust and so forth so some advice (even if it's something to go read or research) would be great.
Mike
EDIT : Got the following failure
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...450failure.jpg
Those redlines should do 1081 @ 5-5-5-15 easy
run the 12:10 divider and bump up the ram to 1081MHz
Next change these settings
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : MANUAL
Common Perf. Level : 7
retest your ram if it craps out try clock skew first and alittle more volts, I think there safe to 2.2 volts so set max in bios to 2.12 if required
grnfinger, Have you used the OCZ plats 1066 sticks in this board? What were you able to manage with them if so.
Will using AS5 on the NB and SB lower my temp that much?
No sorry I have not , never had much luck with OCZQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
My QX6850 just cannot do 500MHz FSB. :( I've used all of my 515MHz+ settings from my old Q6600 and it locks after about 5mins. What voltages would you push to boost the FSB(or the wall?)?
Hmm well they are doing rated specs, NP atm, read alot about users having problems getting reapers up to speed though.
Any thought on prime stable small fft's , 3d06 stable but crysis bench crash? I'm thinking NB volts or ram.
Once i get the my TRUE in a couple of days I will post some OCZ ram tests (temps are to much for extreme ocing atm ). I picked it up for phenom II but figured I'd try it out in this first.
I prefer ceramique to as5, it's the universal soldier of thermal paste. Yes it will make a difference as well as straightening out the heatpipe assembly, only one corner of my SB was making contact when i recieved the board. Lay it on a large piece of glass and see how evenly it sits, adjust till its flat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Oh no I'm not bashing the ram, I just had bad luck with them and even worse with RMA
I would agree most likely vNB, you could also try dram clock skew advanced 100ps to start and move up from there it might help..
I find alot of PLL will move the wall slightly if you havent tried it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Shawn I found a small fan over the NB also does wonders. The way the heastink is pinned screws fasten to it quite easily. Don't mind the mess I just recently organized everything when i swapped PSU this is just an old pic.
http://members.cox.net/hoobahans/my%20rig.jpg
12:10 @ 1081 CHECKQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger CHECK
Com. Perf. Level : 7 CHECK
As for Clock Skew.... am I correct in assuming the lower the advance the better? At someone's recommendation here (I believe it was Zucker) I had the CLK Skew Channel A & B to : Advance 300ps. When I was inputting your suggestions, I changed it to NORMAL and hung at DET RAM. Bumped both to Advance 50ps and got BSOD as I was posting this reply so now I'm back to Advance 300ps on both. Is that ok or should I try to lower it?
Sorry for all the N00B questions..... just trying to keep myself on track and have something to work on while I'm waiting for replies. ;)
Here are the rest of my memory settings:
DRAM Frequency : DDR2 - 1081MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Advanced 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Advanced 300ps
1st Information: Manual -> RAS# ACT Time / Auto for the rest 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
2nd Information : Auto (8-3-5-4-6-4-6)
3rd Information : Auto (14-5-1-6-6)
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
I found advanced 350ps was the sweet spot for my setup, if its running solid on 300ps then I would not touch it.
What would you recommend as max? I can't believe I lost all my saved settings when I formatted. :eek: :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
iirc 1.70 is max, someone correct me if I'm wrong please
is this going to be a 24/7 setup?
That real voltage or set because mine overvolts like crazy, etc 1.50 set = 1.61 measured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
It'll be a 24/7 Folding setup. I'll try up to 1.65v and that will give about 1.7v actual. What did you run on yours, Grn?
Figured out my crysis bench problem. Won't even bench at stock, either the bench is screwed, the game is screwed or my dx10 is screwed because it benches in DX9 fine.
about 1.72 actual for over 6 months, chip was still going strong when I sold it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
got a Fatal Error 2 1/2 hrs into Prime95 "Blend" test (usually I'd just run the Small FFTs) in core #2. When I was running the Small FFT tests it was usually core #3 that would get the error.
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...re2failure.jpg
Its vcore or pll, up pll first if that wont help, you'll need a drop or 2 of vcore
usally 512 errors its pll
Sweet! I didn't realize the iteration gave a clue as to what went wrong. Now I wish I would have been posting up my Pirme screenshots a week ago when I started this mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Had CPU Voltage : 1.5625 & CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60. Just bumped PLL to 1.62 and rerunning Prime.
Thanks again Grnfinger!
try some vtt
WOW!!! :eleph:
I just did that and WOW! I was thinking about doing something like that a couple weeks ago but never did. My NB Idle temp dropped from about 40c to 33c. My load looks to be staying around 37-38ish. They were in the 46-47ish range.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*