AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

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12-03-2010, 12:34 AM
duploxxx

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Originally Posted by eric66

seems to me that amd screwed up 6970 so its 580/570 all the way this christmas :D

oh yeah sure they did, I really like to work on my 570, man the uber performance i get, low power, for that low price is amazing.... i love to play on these 570 cards, I just bought 3 of them for so much SLI power..... they are all over the place to buy, massive stock.....

same for my 580 rig, had to buy 3 of them for massive SLI, only problem in EU is that you never find 3 of the same part at the same time, so i just bought a MSI-PNY-ASUS one from each.... looks really cool in my rig....
that was off course to replace my 4 way SLI 460 all EVGA FTW version the only one which is able to look decent against the new 6870 that off course replaced my 3 way sli 480 which i used only to heat my house.

a good link for you:
http://www.nvidia.com/content/global/global.php
12-03-2010, 01:04 AM
herderien

there's the word iron in irony ^^
12-03-2010, 01:33 AM
Sly Fox

I really don't know where you guy's get the energy to argue so much before anything is even officially released.

I'm almost kind of jealous to be totally honest. :p:
12-03-2010, 02:11 AM
Raystream

Every year we get less and less information. :down:

By now we should have official specs, over the top specs that everyone and their mother wants to believe, official photos and a leaked pdf.

What gives?
12-03-2010, 02:14 AM
zerazax

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Originally Posted by Raystream

Every year we get less and less information. :down:

By now we should have official specs, over the top specs that everyone and their mother wants to believe, official photos and a leaked pdf.

What gives?

AMD's gotten better at keeping things secret.

People forget that Eyefinity surprised many people - Nvidia included
12-03-2010, 02:22 AM
thebanik

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Originally Posted by zerazax

AMD's gotten better at keeping things secret.

People forget that Eyefinity surprised many people - Nvidia included

The reason is simply because they haven't distributed any/many samples yet. See its never an AMD employee who leaks the info, when the information is with 1000 different Reviewers around the globe, some1 with a week stomach leaks that info for website hits or just some attention but sadly that is not the case this time around.

Now the debate can be whether its something deliberate or whether even AMD is in a fix.
12-03-2010, 02:38 AM
eric66

clearly there is some problem with 6970 and from the look of it seems they still couldn't fix it
12-03-2010, 02:50 AM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by eric66

clearly there is some problem with 6970 and from the look of it seems they still couldn't fix it

admins please get rid of this useless troll....
12-03-2010, 03:17 AM
informal

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Originally Posted by eric66

clearly there is some problem with 6970 and from the look of it seems they still couldn't fix it

Yep indeed.AMD just can't make the decision on the branding and colors on the boxes,they are in big dilemma! Also a huge problem is a new logo design,last I heard they had 3 parallel "design" teams working on it 24/7 to meet the December deadline,but chances are slim they will make it :(

/sarcasm off
12-03-2010, 03:43 AM
eric66

meh we all know that something isn't right you must just admit it... delays, no single info reviewers receiving 6950 only etc
12-03-2010, 03:49 AM
Florinmocanu

Look at page 69, monstru put a pic of him holding two cayman cards. So... just drop it eric66... The cards are obviously in the hands of reviewers
12-03-2010, 03:52 AM
eric66

aren't they both 6950s ?
12-03-2010, 03:56 AM
zerazax

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Originally Posted by eric66

aren't they both 6950s ?

says who?

stop being delusional

and i hope to god you didn't think that 217W slide for the "6950" is real too

ps. one got blacked out too

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Originally Posted by thebanik

The reason is simply because they haven't distributed any/many samples yet. See its never an AMD employee who leaks the info, when the information is with 1000 different Reviewers around the globe, some1 with a week stomach leaks that info for website hits or just some attention but sadly that is not the case this time around.

Now the debate can be whether its something deliberate or whether even AMD is in a fix.

They've actually had the architecture presentations already - the main thing is that the final specs were all labeled TBA and so any specs floating around were probably either fake ones and/or decoys sent to AIBs
12-03-2010, 03:59 AM
eric66

lol seriously one got blacked out i wonder what was the reason they looked identical to me
12-03-2010, 04:05 AM
herderien

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Originally Posted by E30M3

when did amd produce a single GPU card which was the fastest on the market??

not since Nvidia failed with the FX5800
otherwise nVidia always been ahead of AMD

and will probably win this round too
it is certainly what history tells us.

very true...untill it's not anymore ^^
wich happens all the time on "get it for granted" facts
12-03-2010, 04:43 AM
cegras

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Originally Posted by eric66

meh we all know that something isn't right you must just admit it... delays, no single info reviewers receiving 6950 only etc

Eh, the cards were delayed (one delay, not delays) to the 13th. Why are you so ansty? Exact same thing in terms of info for the past two releases.
12-03-2010, 05:13 AM
Lanek

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Originally Posted by eric66

meh we all know that something isn't right you must just admit it... delays, no single info reviewers receiving 6950 only etc

the 6950 use the same core with 2 SIMD disabled, If something is wrong with the 6970, the same problem is with the 6950.
12-03-2010, 05:29 AM
Picao84

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Originally Posted by Lanek

the 6950 use the same core with 2 SIMD disabled, If something is wrong with the 6970, the same problem is with the 6950.

Following your logic, GTX480 with 480 cores should never have existed :rolleyes:
12-03-2010, 05:37 AM
Lanek

So you suggest AMD face same problem of Nvidia ?and they will need to disable 2SIMD and release cut off "fermi version" .... lol

if it was the case so the 6950 will have 4SIMD disabled so ....

If the full Cayman have some problem, his little brother using the same core, will face the same problem .. if AMD need to redesign the 6970, they redesign at same time the 6950...
you can't separe the downgraded version of the 6970 ... as you can't separate the GTX470 of the 480 ( who is just a 480 with 1 SIMD disabled ( with memory controller downgraded too )
12-03-2010, 05:55 AM
Picao84

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Originally Posted by Lanek

you can't separe the downgraded version of the 6970 ... as you can't separate the GTX470 of the 480 ( who is just a 480 with 1 SIMD disabled ( with memory controller downgraded too )

Exactly.. Thats my point?
Both GTX470 and GTX480 DID launch, nevertheless the problems Fermi suffered. So tell me why cant AMD launch HD6950 while HD6970 has problems?

EDIT - Im not claiming that Cayman has issues. Im just pointing at your flawed logic.
12-03-2010, 05:56 AM
informal

There is no problem,people are just getting impatient... Won't be long now. A week+ a few days and Cayman will rock your games :)
12-03-2010, 06:34 AM
flopper

the 6970 issue is that its to fast.
AMD couldnt handle the speed it run the games faster than you could see.
the 10.12 cataclysm driver is HUGE, breaking the 1gig limit.

It all points to the same conclusion, people have to high expectations to have information about stuff before they are out.
12-03-2010, 06:40 AM
eXceeded

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Originally Posted by flopper

the 6970 issue is that its to fast.
AMD couldnt handle the speed it run the games faster than you could see.
the 10.12 cataclysm driver is HUGE, breaking the 1gig limit.

It all points to the same conclusion, people have to high expectations to have information about stuff before they are out.

Probably because it happens so regularly in every other industry :o
12-03-2010, 06:44 AM
Heinz68

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Originally Posted by eric66

seems to me that amd screwed up 6970 so its 580/570 all the way this christmas :D

The above is your reply to Hd 6950 FAKE slide. I wonder what other evidence you have to confirm your statement that "amd screwed up 6970" and maybe you can share it with us.

Since this is AMD thread you should not be surprised that some people see such post as a troll specially without any evidence or at least a rumor that AMD did screw up something.

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Originally Posted by eric66

meh we all know that something isn't right you must just admit it... delays, no single info reviewers receiving 6950 only etc

This time you did tone down a bit, but still the same arguments. How do you know what cards are the reviewers getting? How about delays? I recall only one three weeks delay and it was not on HD 6970 only.

The reviewers usually get the cards about five days before the NDA ends. The GTX 570 is supposed to be released December 7 which means all the reviewers should have the card now and I don't see any info coming from the reviewers the same was before the GTX 580 release so what is so unusual about the luck of info from the reviewers on the HD 69** cards?
12-03-2010, 08:15 AM
nascasho

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

the 6970 issue is that its to fast.
AMD couldnt handle the speed it run the games faster than you could see.
the 10.12 cataclysm driver is HUGE, breaking the 1gig limit.

It all points to the same conclusion, people have to high expectations to have information about stuff before they are out.

You were close as to why it was delayed, it's actually because the card was so fast that it created micro-black holes that in small amounts showed no harm till they tested in massive groups that created one large black hole and sucked up all the 6900's meaning they had to make some more, tone down the speeds a bit, and re-test the newer batches. :yepp:

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