what power supply are you using? you may be right in thinking you were stable before you overclocked your video card.
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what power supply are you using? you may be right in thinking you were stable before you overclocked your video card.
I am using Antec Truepower trio 650w. I would really like it stable at 3.6, i think i have more testing to do :(
*edit*
But since i got some crashing in orthos doesnt that mean its not the video card?
It was fine in orthos before added the pci card 2ide hd's and 1 sata hd
On our board... in order to increase the Mhz of the memory Ram... the only factor is the Vdimm?
Of course i am not talking about a tight FSB:RAM ratio...
I have the following ram:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...G&promo=hx2shp
Even with a 2.25 volt on them and 3:4 ratio, i can't get them over 870 MHz...
:(
Any suggestions? (or my dimm sucks?)
I believe what he's saying is that you may not have enough power. I know in the past I had an Opteron 148 that could do 3.1GHz+, but after a while of video card upgrades I found the CPU would barely do 2.9GHz. Turns out I was over-loading the PSU, and in turn starving the CPU.
An easy way to check would be to put a basic video card in and try to OC it. If the basic vid card (which draws less power) allows your OC to be more stable, then your PSU may need to be upgraded.
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp
check this one
hello, what is the function of "dram write recovery time" in the bios ?
Thanks for the tip!
BIOS 2602 installed
- P5WDH, 1.02g; Q6700 G0 @ 3.0g; FSB: 300
- running normally for past 48 hours
- BIOS EzFlash/Thumbdrive method.
- quick 15min OCCT test successful.
Testing Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5G (2gB x 2 for 4gB)
- 5-5-5-18 @ PC-7100 (450mhz; 2:3); 2.05vdc
- cheap, $74.00 USD after $40.00 Mail-In Rebate, NewEgg
I Have a big problem. I've received today the E8400,. After installing the computer is not booting up, there is also no sound of error from the bios. I've tried to put back the old cpu, but the same problem...Did i do something wrong? I did not broke anithing on the mobo, aparently. The bios is 2602 version.
From the bios? Or from the jumper?
yes and make sure its unpluged from the wall and remove the battery for ten min..s or so and good luck
Rich
I have my Q6400 OCed to 3.2 ghrtz, at a 1:1 ratio using OCZ DDR2800 2 gigs platinum revision 2 RAM. I want to throw in another 2 gigs of the same ram, would that impede my OC or affect it in any way? would i have to reduce my overclock?
Anyone tried some clocking E8400\8500 with this mobo yet? Speculating about buying one E8400, and i am waiting for x48 asus mobos.
I have tried a E8400. Works fine with latest beta bios. With 1,65v to Northbridge it is stable in 400x9=3,6GHz. E8400 on standard voltage 1,2v. When going higher the board gets unstable. I cannot boot above 409Mhz FSB. Over that the FSB sets to 69MHz :confused:
Sometimes it stops at bios for about 30sec before booting OS. Did not have that problem with E6600. Hopefully ASUS releases non beta BIOS with support for Wolfdale.
Do you know which are the CPUs supported by the new BIOS?
On Asus website, CPU support page, nothing can be found as for the new bios 2602.
My principal interest is to see if finally QX9650 is officially supported by this main :D :D
Can someone with a E8400 at 3.6GHz post your 1meg SuperPI score?
Thanks
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...a_SuperPI1.jpg
Looks like the Maximus Formula offers a little bit of performance at 5-5-5-15 (3:4).
I have the same CPUwith teh same problems, i tried ocing to 415 mhz and the fsb went all the way down and cpu was running at like 650 mhz and i had to reset the cmos lol.
So you say you use 1.65v? i just switched mine to that last night. mind posting your other voltages? I'm trying to stabilize mine too and would love to know your voltages. thanks!
when i turn off the switch of the psu and then turn it on, the pc boots up!
why does this happen? How can i prevent this "auto-boot"?
you can disable it in the BIOS to. it's called Power On After Failure or something like that.
What bios is currently most stable/adviseable? Im using a G0 e6850 with 4 sticks of ram.
the latest one, whatever that is. my daily driver speed on this mobo is 400 FSB. i can do that with all the chipset volts in the pink. i had to max my chipset volts to get it to run 425 FSB, so i figured the few extra MHz weren't worth all the extra voltage. i just set it to 425 for some bench runs and put it back to 400 when i was done.
try the max. vMCH you have for starters then lower from there if possible.Quote:
4x2GB
Yes, max it but actively cool the NB and then boot into DOS to test with a few rounds of memtest86 (I use test no. 5 and then 8), don't try booting into Windows till memtest86 clears. Next reduce vMCH and retest till you get the minimum to be stable.
weird. i have a brand new Bone Trail sitting right next to me, so i'm about to do some major surgery on my rig ;). no need for me to investigate why i can't manually set 1.225 on mine. i bid you all farewell. my P5W will be missed. maybe i'll build an HTPC out of it instead of selling it. it's been a really great motherboard.
Remote Control...
I want to have the feature to "power on" with the remote
i have already set it to "off" but still power on...
my pc used after a power loss... to boot up for a few secs in order to enable power on option for the remote (as the manual of the remote says)...
But now it completly starts up... and if i unplug the psu cord... the power on button from the remote doesn't work until i get into windows and shut down the pc again... any ideas?
Turns out I do have a faulty HD3870 card, waiting for a replacement so got a HD3870x2 loaner which runs OK on the P5W DH Dlx, seems to lose out very very slightly to 2 x HD3870 though.
HD3870x2 Score: 16089
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4919830
2 x HD3870 Score: 16142
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4918330
:)
damn i wish i could get the p5wdh to do 450*9
Is there any location to get ALL the BIOS revisions in one download? This would be very beneficial to basically flash through the various revisions and see which ones work the best for me.
Im about to install the latest 2602 (2nd release within a month?! :mad: )
Last week after not being able to run a stable 3G overclock (around 5.5 hrs is when I got the 1stg error in Prime 95). I then loaded defaults and ran memtest for about 30min the next day thinking it might be the memory. After coming back up to my room to check the status...the PC had shut off...not reboot...shut off.
I then tried to boot up again and it would not post at all. It would simply shut off after about 30sec. I initially though it was because I was bumping up the mem voltage from 1.9 to 1.95 so I tried to restore defaults but it would still not post.
The next day I opened the box up and tried testing the RAM. I took both sticks out. I then put one back into one of the orange slots I've always used and it booted right up. I then tried the other orange slot with the same stick (same story). I took that stick out and did the same with the next stick (same results).
Next I stuck both of them (dual channel config. like I initially had). I booted up...the post took VERY long...after almost a min on the initial splash screen...I considered it a bad post and restarted. I tried again and it posted...very slowly (not sure if this is dual channel related-it seems to be).
So anyway I set the RAM to run 800mhz @ 5-5-5-15 with 1.9V (factory "overclock" settings) ran the latest memtest version for about 3 hours and it seemed fine...about 6 tests and no errors.
I booted up this morning and got the BIOS message the "overclock failed" :confused:
This board is beginning to be a real pain in the ass. I could have got an MSI Neo series for half the price and from Im hearing nowhere NEAR the amount of trouble that this board is providing.
T_Ski: thanks for the in-depth response to my posts, man ( appreciate that )
....off to try an other BIOS
yeah, i put it in the 8400 thread. it's kind of off topic in this one, seeing as how i'm not using my P5W anymore.
here
Please help me over here,
yesterday i tried to flash from 2504 to 2602 just because i love always to have the newest bios ver.
so from a weird way ASus EZ doesnt want to let me get the update running, it just freezed when i tried to enter it showing me the files from the USB Flash A:\ and C:\(was the usb) i tried without the usb flash and it was still freeze, freeze means i couldnt move between the files i had in the usb files i had like 3 ROMS, and without it i couldnt do CTRL + ALT + DEL thats how it freezed.
So i said i will update from Winxp using Asus Windows Flash , turned off all Overclocking ofc and before in Asus EZ. and everything was smooth, reset and to configurate to LOAD DEFAULTS, reset, booted, so it look liked it was freezed, so i reset again and it freezed again, ( i think it wasnt freeze because as you know when you do the Defaults it activates the slow FAN Controls so it gives it more 7 sec or something, and i forgot it at the time) so i turned the computer off, and when i turn it on it didnt boot. I Was IN SHOCKED*, tried everything, pulling memory sticks i have 4x, pulling the power cable, reset CMOS, everything i could think off. so i was at thinking i leave the computer for the day , thinking about RMA and such.
*I KNEW the motherboard is not dead because everything was smooth, no error and i did everything like i always did. but i just thought about moving foward.
So after the day i thought what the hell before i am going to store i will try to turn it on, and POOF magic, it booted and works. but i saw i cant change the CPU VOLTAGE and i dont have EIST anymore, where did they go ?
please help me restore them and if someone could explain the weird syptom.
***FOUND THE FIX FOR EIST. DISABLING THE CPU RATIO MAKE EIST TO APPEAR
No, Im not sure its all BIOS related. That's just the thing...
The longest I've run Prime95 is about 5.5 hours with 1 error. That was @ 9x333 using the Vcore setting one below 1.2625 (not sure the exact number as Im not looking at the BIOS right now).
I just tried this again with RAM at 667Mhz 5-5-5-15 with 2.0V. I got an error in Prime95 about an hour into testing so I bumped up Vcore to 1.2625. Im about an hour into it with now errors yet.
My plan is to run the Prime95 for about 8-9 hrs. If the results are good, I'll then run memtest for the same amount of time.
Again, Im not sure what is giving me the inconsistent and odd results (Im fairly new to this). Is it the BIOS, the RAM, RAM settings, CPU, CPU settings or MOBO-I dont know?
Im using an OC guide from Toms forums and have all of the basic settings:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...ds-duals-guide
Do you guys have CPU VOLTAGE and EIST using 2604 Bios ?
because EIST is gone and it says to disable it for changing voltage, well of course but its not there and its Enabled. What's wrong with it grr, i cant do any overclock without changing the cpu voltage.
***** NEVER MIND : i found the fix, Disabling the CPU RATIO makes it EIST to appear and then i can change the CPU VOLTAGE.
Just to add a couple of bits of confusion.
A lot of members have said they have a motherboard version 1.02 and cannot set the MCH higher than 1.65. I have that same board version and can set mine as high as 1.85, although I find it the most stable at 1.75. I don't know what the changes were between 1.02 and 1.03.
Crap. Forgot the other two points I was going to put in.
I am probably going to try to put an E8400 into this machine because this e6600 overclocks so poorly. I can do 333 for months, but will die at 334 in 5 minutes. Something weird happening there. If the e8400 runs in the new machine, I will be a happy camper. If not, I'm onto a new board. Personally I am happy if it works because it has been a good board until this morning when it died...happily it was memory related. Strange in that I am use to hearing motherboard beeps with memory issues.
Getting late. Time to go....
Um.......what?
That's going to do a hell of a lot of good if you have an unlocked multiplier CPU, right?
Disabling the CPU ratio and then you cant change the multiplier, but you can change the vcore by disabling EIST?
But ENABLE CPU Ratio, and the Voltage is STUCK at auto, because EIST is not available to be changed??......
That means this BIOS is worthless with an Extreme edition.
This sounds like a complete fatal bug, don't you think?
Not really...the reference design of the 3870 has a lower 3d clock vs the 3870 X2 but has better memory. When you have a 3870 in CF it at times performs better then the 3870X2. The major difference is the GDDR4 vs GDDR3. That's why IMO it's better the GDDR4 X2's (when they start to surface).
Had the same experience. It's not really frozen tho, somehow the keyboard events got "stuck". I finally managed to get to the file and program it by hitting a key (arrow, enter) and then hitting shift until the previous key registered.
Same thing. Board got stuck after the USB init message on screen, but would eventually continue to boot after pulling USB devices..
Well, havn't powered it up ever since, will try that..
I'm having similar problems with a Q6600: it's stable until 328Mhz bus speed. Even @330 i start to get some stability issues (I/O errors), while @333Mhz the board becomes unstable: it works under winxp64 but there are random errors or lockups, no matter the voltage or settings i use: i can make a crazy overvolt on ram, cpu, nb etc etc, no way to gain stability, even using ultra relaxed memory timings etc etc... very strange. I really would like to know the origin of this problems.
LOL i always confused with those bioses, damn asus always makes jumps between 504 to 506 and than 602, so its confusing and i forgot .
:ROTF: :rofl:
r
and asus when the fix something they ruin something else, when the CPU Ratio was on default x8 when it should be on x9 for Q6600 you needed to Enable the it so you can change it to x9, well after this bios update 2602 you need to disable it to see EIST LOL again. what is wrong with them, and lets not talk about the permantly unboot that could happend before, i thought the motherboard was toast with some weird things in it.
For me, my main peeve with the Asus BIOS is that pesky "Config Disk" which appears now and then as a new Hardware Detected by Win XP... such a PITA. Do you guys get this too?
I have already removed both jumpers and disabled it in the BIOS and yet it happens once in a while.
:)
I used to get that but not for like a year. Don't know how I stopped it..
Lately my computer takes forever to shutdown and restart. I'm talking like 15-20 minutes. Has anyone ever run into this problem?
Be more specific? Sounds more like a Windows issue if you're talking about shutting down times..
Clean up your HDD, www.ccleaner.com is a good help.. defrag HDD.. etc//
Lower your o/c a bit as well to see if it goes better.
Did you modify anything in the registry? Like "clear page file on shutdown" etc?
Hi,
I'm using G0 Q6600@3.150Mhz. (350x9) default voltage with SpeedStep enabled. It looks stable, but over 350MHz. FSB I cannot make my PC stable. Is there any way to use Q6600 about around 3.6 Ghz.? BIOS ver: 2602
Thanks,
Hicksetto
a P5W can easily do 350 FSB. just put your north bridge volts in the pink. i think 3.6 is probably right around the limits on a G0 Q6600 on air though. go through your overclock one piece at a time, use the process of elimination, and find out which component is holding you back from going further. the motherboard is likely not what's holding you back here.
My G0 chip barely reached a stable ( 18 hrs+ Prime95 ) clock of 3Ghz ( 335 * 9 ) on the P5W DH yet it can do 3.8 Ghz on the DFI X38 board with less vcore.
P5W DH is a very fine board for dual-core chips, but you'll need motherboards with P35 or X38 chipset to really make your quad-core shines.
Usually shutdown issues seem to be driver related. Unfortunately, it's usually a PITA to diagnose and nail down.
You're welcome :D
I got a 3870x2 in last week, but I haven't had a chance to bench mine yet. If I can remember, I'll bench it and post the numbers for you.
Cheers, did you test it with "at least" 12 hrs of Prime95 ( 4 instances ).
I have the rev. 1.02 board for well over a year now and it has no problem running well over 400 fsb on an e6400 and e6600. My B0 Q6600 reached a max of 390-ish but 335 is the best I could do to make it Prime95 stable.
I'm sure make users here will agree with me that i975 isn't particularly friendly with quad-core CPUs.
But if yours is indeed stable @ 3.6, then congradulation !!!
hey, what exactly does the 2602 bios have/do that 2504 doesn't? asus says it adds support for new cpu's, but they don't show any new cpu's in the support list...
quick question, has anyone here tried to use both PCI-E video slot without using the crossfire function? Meaning using 2 video cards at the same time under Vista, so i can have 3 monitors hook up for games? Any performace impacts?
Thanks
Well, I forgot I don't have a bench done with the E6850 @3.6GHz and CrossFire 2900XT's. Right now my OC is @ 3.6GHz and I don't feel like going back to stock speeds ATM for you (no offense ;) )...
E6850 @ 3.0GHz w/CrossFire 2900 XT's - 14283
E6850 @ 3.6GHz w/3970X2 - 16103
Next time I back to stock I'll bench the 3870X2 for ya ;)
No worries, those numbers are more than enough for me :p: - If you take the CPU overclock out of the equation they look pretty even. Which makes it even harder to make a decision :shrug: .
The choice is:
1. Another 2900xt for crossfire.
2. 2 x 3870's
or
3. 3870x2
I hope to keep this mobo until at least September so 2 X 3870's seems the best choice.
I'd really really really....like to get 2 x 3870x2 but as the P5W is lacking PCIE 2.0 I don't think CrossfireX would run on it as the cards would be running 8x / 8x - Each GPU would run at 4x That just screams bottleneck at me but I had a Google around and there's been no mention of CrossfireX on 975x/P965.
Hi. I've searched and read for tips over the months on oc'ing my E6400 with DDR2 800 patriot ram (4-4-4-12 2.2v) and have had limited success trying to get the ram to run 1:1 at it's 400 mhz (ddr2800). So I recently loaded up bios 2504 and decided to make one last effort to reach that goal.
First, is it uncommon to set the DRAM Freq to 400 so that the ram will 1:1 with the E6400? I've tried various bios setups. The highest overclock I could get was with the CPU frequency set to about 360. SO I read about enabling SPD to overcome that 360 barrier, which I did, even got the machine to post, but couldn't get it to load windows. Could that be an overheating issue?
Right now, i'm booted up at a CPU freq of 375, giving me a clock of 3ghz (375x8), but with SPD still enabled, CPUZ is saying the memory timings are at 5-6-6-18! So I dunno, it's time to seek experienced help I guess. I was expecting SPD to set the timings as low as possible for any FSB under 400mhz. So the CPU clock is great, but i'm not where i want to be in terms of the memory, but if i take it off SPD, i can't post.
Temps seem ok- CoreTemp says cpu is 38-40 degrees, TJunction is 85 degrees. Or is that high...hm.
Other voltage settings: mCH-1.55, FSB-1.4, ICH-1.05, Memory 2.2v, CPU 1.375v
Thanks for any suggestions.
IS this the only fix for this? Changing the SATA HDD to other header doesn't work for me. I have an external HDD and if I turned that on everything works, but I think I paid to much for this mobo to have to do this crap just to work properly.
Specs:nothing OCed
P5W DH (just flashed to 2602 ,but it was doing the same thing with 1305)
E6600 with Tuniq
2GB Corsair XMS
7900GT KO with Zalman
X-Fi Gamer
Seagate SATA
OCZ 700W PSu
Should I RMA the mobo?
Thanks
i have the sam problem of "POST lock up during Detecting IDE Devices" it´s common in the p5w dh or it´s a motherboard error???
thanks!, but that´s not the problem, the problem is that the detection of usb devices is too much, it´s normal ?
Has anyone gotten an E8400 to work with a P5W? I got my E8400 in today and decided I'd try it in my p5w since I'm not getting my new dfi dk p35 for a couple weeks. The bios I was using was 2504 and I just couldn't get things going with the E8400. It would post fine and I could work in the bios with no problem at all, but booting into windows was a different story. Windows would load but before my startups were finish loading the computer would reboot. In the bios it showed the default cpu voltage of 1.17 and I'm pretty sure that's pretty low.
I decided to up the voltage a bit and found that the lowest voltage I could set was 1.375 so I decided to give that a try. Again, it booted into windows and then rebooted. I go back into the bios to find the cpu voltage showing 0.98.
I went to the asus site and they show that the E8400 should work with 2504. Do you guys think I should wait for my dfi board to get here or should I give it another try using bios 2602?
give the 2602 a try and let us know how it works
Rich
I get the same problem when my printer is turned on because it has a card reader built into it. If the printer is turned on, the computer will hang at the same point . It will continue to boot when I turn the printer off. It's crazy, but it's the truth.
For those of you wanting to know about the E8400 and bios 2602 - I'm going to try it when I get home after work. I didn't feel like messing with it any longer last night after I had put my e6600 back in. I'll update you all later today and let ya know the results with 2602.
Ah I'm getting really pissed off
I have a P5W DH 1.04G and an E6420, and before, because of heat issues i wouldn't go over 3.4Ghz with it (425 * 8). I had an old Zalman 7000B CU.
I just recently bought a Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme, and obviously all my heat problems are over.
But that also showed me that my board won't go over 428 FSB no matter what I do! Vmch is already at max (1.8v) and it's cooled properly.
What else could I do to try and take it higher? Do any of the other voltage options matter?
My mem sticks can go up to around 1000 easily.
It's also not a processor issue. This very same processor used to run at 3.8Ghz (475 * 8) at a P5B Deluxe before I put it in my mobo.
Could anyone help?
Thanks in advance
Hey, Khalmyr
Alot of mobos are diff i found that i cant bring my 6750 past 3.6Ghz without crashing and thats with the 450FSB wall. And my voltage is upthere but i got proper cooling which makes me sleep better.
Im running 3.6 stable... But if i go 1FSB higher i go BSOD. And thats with my voltages up there and tried every setting possible.
And this CPU i had it past 4Ghz on a Maximus Formula SE. Friend let me play with his mobo while he was waiting for his wolfdale. :)
well, 450FSB is already better than 428.
I'm very frustrated that even though I bought a new cooler i can't overclock any further than what i already did.
any special adjustments to be able to use 450FSB 24/7?
when i start the pc the detection of usb devices is too much, it´s normal ?
I've P5W DH Deluxe and an E6600 running at 340x9= 3060MHz with stock volt, Orthos stable... and I want to go higher but, if i go any higher it results in BSoD :/ I've read the thread and I wonder if you guys have any tips for me?
The cooling isn't a problem, I've a Scythe Ninja which's cooling my E6600 and the temps is like, 25/40 which isn't bad? And yes, I'm running latest BIOS...
So, any tips?
I tried my E8400 again last night with bios 2602 and got the exact same results as I did with 2504. It would boot with no problem at all but reboot just after loading windows. I put my e6600 back in and all is well.
Do you guys think it has anything to do with the revision of the board? I don't remember the exact revision of mine but it only goes to 1.65 for the NB. The chip information reported is accurate, but when loading all bios defaults and then looking at the reported cpu voltage in the bios it reads at 1.75. The lowest voltage available for me to choose is 1.375 and I know that this is WAY off.
Any ideas?
Anyone else having temperature reading issues with latest bios (2602)?
Last weekend I upgraded to 2504(?), and after doing so my CPU case temp went up from 36 to 42 C (C2D E6600). I thought I had high temperature before, considering I'm still at stock clock but now it's ridiculous. The core temp hasn't changed though, it's still 50-52C (which is pretty high too isn't it?). So I thought this was something that came with 2504, but after flashing to 2602 the issue is still there..... anyone else seen this?
Btw, what's the highest clock anyone reached on stock voltage for my kind of cpu (E6600 C6 stepping B2)???