HA! I QUOTED YOU! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo
If it was under 125W for 3.5GHz then you wouldn't need a TRUE to keep it cool enough. Like I stated earlier, the opteron 165 came with a nice quad heatpipe 80mm fan cooler, and that would be enough for 125W easily.
Actually you're right; I'm Catholic (at least I consider myself one since I haven't been to church in years). So let's see, you post to affirm what I've already said and proceed to attack me at the same time; hmm, what does that make you? Let me take a wild guess: a protestant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly Fox
OK please stop it right there. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
There is absolutely no reason to bring religion into this. It is totally IRRELEVANT and AGAINST THE RULES.
Goes for both of you.
occt says 3500mhz 1.35 volt is stable after 1 hour testing.
cpu reached 58 degree which would be below 50 degree if i used blowers on full force.
they only need a small improvement but then we would have no oc headroom.
even if its fud, its possible. the 940 already has max 125 watt now on crap cooling on 3500mhz.
Seriously! I've been just sitting back watching this in disbelief up to that point but that was WAY outta control. Just for the record I am neither one of those religions, but I wouldn't go atatcking them. I'm no saint either, but that was way outta control.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
I think you are wasting your time with Zucker.The dude can't miss a chance in AMD thread to troll. It's like a safe bet with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
As for the cooling needed for the "hypothetical" 3.5Ghz Phenom II,it should be something better than the current ones bundled with BE.But we must not forget AMD's CTI program and constant process node improvements.So by the time second half of 2009 arrives,AMD could probably easily milk another 13% clock over the forthcoming 3.1Ghz 950 model and get to 3.5Ghz ,while staying withing the rated 125W.If need be,they can even rate that chip as 140W and we know from the case of 9950BE 140W model that even if rated at 140W the chip never draw anywhere near that(Was closer to ~100W under full load using 4x stress prime).
Yes, my general! :rofl::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Last time I say it: OCCT or Prime95 mean NOTHING for AMD/Intel.
Try it in Vista64, just for the lulz.Quote:
Originally Posted by BertM
i dont have 64bit windows installed, somebody else can try that :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
occt benching now with 3 stronger blowers at 3500mhz 1.35volt results in 45 degree cpu temp. (simular to very good true setup)
Please do, AMD chips are famous for clocking much higher in 32-bit systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by BertM
to be fair, PhII has not been exhibiting this behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
I find, in general most chips clock better under 32bit settings.
I thought the current Phenom II's were using the same hsf as the old Phenom 9950? I heard they would be developing a new hsf for later revisions :shrug:
Whether or not you believe that AMD can achieve 3.5 doesn't matter. The point is that to drone on and on is pointless. There are solutions that have been brought up. It just gets old never being able to have a decent AMD topic.
I meant no offense with the catholic comment and I would call it a joke in admittadly bad taste. So let's bury the hatchet on the issue and move on.
On this note of moving on, I'll give it a rest as well.
Erm... right I tried to get this logic to be working but somehow I cant:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Yes, we know by now. But since we still dont know what stability really means for AMD/Intel you cant just say it's useless either;) Just use the right version, settings and amount of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Well, could you please tell me the difference cause I couldnt:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Is AMD a good chip to own anymore?
In short, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Sorry if you don't get my sarcasm, it's actually not difficult to grasp for any normal thinking person. And please stop abusing the rolleyes smilie, it gets tiring; if only you used it when it actually counts. You make no sense with your posts and you're always adding attitude to match. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
The news in th OP was proven to be fake somewhere on page 3.... ...Why is this thread still going?
Is there like a Mod-holiday on the internet or something?
Speaking of adding attitude... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Zucker, what do you ever add to these threads? seriusly all I ever see in these is a few people talking about hardware and then youl basicly post.........no its not, or no it cant, or FUD!!, or It can never happen..........then a few more on topic posts and then you again with the........no it cant, Intel's better, bla bla bla. Its a cycle that hapens in every News thread and you never bring anything to the topic. Why do you do this? I realy dont understand. Dont you relize that you make these threads unpleasent for those who realy do want to discuss the topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
It would be greatly appreciated if you would just let people discuss the topics they want to. Even if you dont agree and think they are out of touch with reality because they dont share your personal views.
And yes, I know there are others that do the same the other direction but its 90% of the time only after you provoke them.
Thanks
How did I provoke anybody when the news for the original post was already said to be fake? :shrug: Once again, those of us who expressed skepticism at the news have been proven right..... well until AMD actually releases that product. Don't you think it's a little bit of frustration on the part of those who are basically defending a hoax? I mean how pathetic can it get? I never said Intel could do it; and I highly doubt AMD could and since the news turned out to be fake, wtf is with the hostility? It's clear some are pissed because of this, but please pick on someone else. Go to my first post and see what I typed before I had to defend my very pure and untainted record for recognizing PHII and calling it for what it is? And this from someone who nearly picked one up at the Microcenter the other day, but had to refrain from it since the Q9650 proved too irrestible.Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
nope, the 9950 is a 140w TDP hsf.. quite a bit taller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frontl1ne
940 HS is the same as 125w 9750-9850s and 6400BE's
Why are people saying that all ph2 can hit 3.5-3.6ghz at stock voltage? Looking at the phenom2 list of overclocks in the AMD section it would seem that they do not on average? Am I missing something?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=213248
http://www.pcrpg.org/pics/computer/octprime.png
To be on this list only 2 hours of prime is needed to be considered stable
I will word it this way so as not to upset the AMD emokids.
Intel can not launch a 3.5-4.0ghz quad anytime soon, I know that people can overclock them to this level quite easily but due to allowing for the worst case seniero with thermals i.e hot climates, 5 years worth of dust build up, bad case cooling etc. it is not as easy on a commercial scale.
Then there is the whole stability problem, They can not be on the edge so will have to provide enough v core to make sure that all cpus are stable, They will not be setting up each system individually so will need the vcore higher that what the avg needs to cover the worst.
Always the same thing, AMD say they will launch a 3.1ghz cpu, Fanboys say AMD will launch a 3.5ghz cpu, People interject logic but get labelled fanboys and some people reading start to believe fanboys, AMD launch a 3.1ghz cpu as promised but due to hype some are disappointed. See the pattern
I dont know what your problem is, whether it's sarcasm, a joke or epic phailure, it was a useless post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
And if you try to tell me Im not a normal thinking person, go ahead, but you already told your self you ain't one, so why would I take you serious at all.
Damn, that was pretty much an open door:rolleyes:
PS::rolleyes:
Some PhII's can, at least I didnt say all can. However, it's called revisions which might make it very well possible. As said, whether they do it, I dont know. Im just saying it aint impossible at all since some intellectuals (lol) claimed AMD cant do that while some of those have been contributing that C2D/Q could be 4Ghz easy. And yes, that's very unlikely and I dont believe that right away, C2D/Q @ 3.5Ghz, why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
So? Anyone OC'ing knows 24/7 usage wouldnt ever only run for 2hours. In the end 2hours is just as useless as 8hours anyway. It's more to prevent suicide shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
Go go trollgadget:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
I dont know, think it's slightly different since launching an higher clocked one wouldnt mess up with the entire C2D/Q line, what would the 9650 become worth? Meaning things have to drop slightly which will be felt mainly in the value section. I guess it's more a strategic problem than a physical problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
AMD is basing from 3Ghz, meaning they can go higher and they can go lower to fill a lot of market spots. Im curious what C3 will bring since that already has slightly improved TDP over C2.
Of course, being on the edge is dangerous. With certain improvements however this edge can be moved higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
No, I only see certain people indoctrinating that AMD users are dissapointed. Where the :banana::banana::banana::banana: that's coming from, Ive no idea. We were talking about the possibility that AMD would release a 3.5Ghz CPU after some table showed up with all eventual future names and clocks. Whether that table is any reliable, I doubt it. But from there the discussion more or less came up about 3.5Ghz CPU's. Even if we had to wait for C4, I think it's very well possible. Unless they can get a decent IPC boost in C4 which makes the run for 3.5Ghz less, but yeah, no one knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag