http://www.shrani.si/t/2l/k4/2ezWdYhB/11.jpg
I hate this stupid 3DM11 :mad:
I7 930@4000MHz 7470 points, GPU 1005/2290
I7 930@4650MHz 7600 points, GPU 1006/2335
Only 130 points difference :shakes:
Printable View
http://www.shrani.si/t/2l/k4/2ezWdYhB/11.jpg
I hate this stupid 3DM11 :mad:
I7 930@4000MHz 7470 points, GPU 1005/2290
I7 930@4650MHz 7600 points, GPU 1006/2335
Only 130 points difference :shakes:
I haven't run the benchmark yet myself so I can't say for sure, but it probably responds more to increased gpu clocks rather than increased cpu clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by cole2109
Thats a good score, looks like 3dm11 likes X58/Bloomfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by cole2109
Yes i know 3DM11 is more GPU friendly, but 650MHz more on CPU and just 100+ points :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP04
I tried 05 to and got low score. I think that 580 or latest drivers are not working properly on 05.Quote:
Cant figure out why I score higher with a 470 in 3dm05 vs this 580. Was able to hit 49,400's with a GTX470 at 890ish mhz, same cpu clocked at 5400mhz.
This is what I get with the 580. Maybe I need a fresh install.
My 580 doesnt like 05/03/01/AM3 either, its not too bad in 11. It only really shines in Vantage and 06.
:)
Very nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Please check your PM. Think I screwed up:yepp:
Dumo, is that 2600K chilled-water-cooled? High voltage with HT, no decreasing visible?
It cooled with single stage. For vantage I use 1.62Vcore bios LLC2 HT on and 1.575Vcore bios LLC2 for other 3D marks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asmola
So far so good, of course high Vcore used only for a few rounds of benching and never run it with air or water
Damn, i need to buy single stage for my self too! LN2 is worthless with SB and it also cost's way too much..
Had a bad scare for a couple hours. I flashed the card and bricked it, during the process I erased the eeprom to try and get it to flash using ..nvflash -Protectoff...nvflash -Eraseeprom, because it wouldnt allow me to override the protectoin. Then it wouldnt allow me to reflash the card, tried everything, booted back to a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. Finally got it running again, guess I can cancell the RMA lol. Finally tried this... nvflash --index=2(adapter number) biosname.rom
I was getting real nervous for about an hour.
Thanks Dumo for helping. :up:
No problem:up:
I put a note for that just in case it happened to me:D
To remove protected bios use nvflash -r
Playing with '01 now...Trying to pass 130K sli run:)
My Crysis OC results are odd
with 1.088v @ 900Mhz core min FPS is a bit lower at 19fps while I get a higher and avg fps and with stock speeds I get a higher min with 24ps while avg and max is at bit lower.. also the tests really have HUGE variances in the min fps per batch run may it be stock or overclocked, warheard on the other hand is pretty consistent with min fps and gives me a boost of about 3-4fps minimum and 3-4max from 797Mhz (stock) to 900Mhz
Seems like my Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz finally met a GPU that bottlenecks it!
is your 580 on water?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
My card does the same so i believe not.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
mine i think does not... actually i'm with stock cooler..and i can't push more than 935mhz 1.1v..... :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Asmola
not as bad as you may think :) its pretty good :up: bump up the voltage for higher clocks.. good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
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guys please read the 1st post.. the 1.025V in the thread title is the vid not the voltage 950 runs @
Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
nice to hear that :rolleyes: btw, i've got 1.000 vid as default, and 1.150 max, wich voltage you suggest me to hold on daily / oc use? ;)
depends on the temps/fan setting/your preference.. you can run it @ 1.1v nonstop no problemQuote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
title changed thanx Gautam!
do you think that if a get under liquid cooling my 580 i can push more event with less voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/...3dm-record.jpg
this was a run of 3dm06 made just yesterday , as i said b4, 580 stock cooling... let me share a pic if you guys don't mind ... :bravo:
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http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/...690-resize.jpg
and a koolance ready to go ..
http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/...484-resize.jpg
I have a stability question,
With several loops on crysis using the ambush and GPU maps, maxing everything out I dont have any crashes / artifacts, same with the warhead benchmark and 3DM demo looped several times.
I do get a hardlock with Dragon Age 2, but im NOT sure if its caused by the GPU OC ( 1.088v , 900Mhz Core ) Dragon Age 2 stays at about 50-60% GPU usage.. The music in the background or sound continues but the system hard locks.. its NOT that often though and very very hard to reproduce!
Comparing the GTX480 PCB and GTX580 reveals differences and similarities. One thing I noticed immediately on the 580 was the lack of filter caps after the chokes, despite there being spaces for them. On the 480, the caps are present. You will also see on the Direct CUII there are filter caps post choke. Anyone with some tantalums lying around want to fill in the blanks on the 580 and see if it makes any difference in clocks?
Pics (first 2 pics from Hardware Canucks review, 3rd pic from techpowerup review):
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...580GTX-480.jpg
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...GTX-580top.jpg
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...echpowerup.jpg
Since GDDR5 has some sort of ECC, whats the best way to test for stability on this ?
Diminishing returns vs clockspeed increase probably. Plot a graph and see when it starts to become non-linear.
Since these cards mem chokes seem borderline under-specced when OC'ing and like to fail, how far is even safe to push the mem 24/7?
depends on the liquid temperature/flow/how fast the waterblock absorbs the heatQuote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
normal liquid cooling same ~voltage.. with extra voltage up to 50mhz core gain
since you got a waterblock go for it!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
simple higher core voltage :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
:D all 3x 1.025viddersQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
http://i55.tinypic.com/k4e7pi.jpg
^ a few extra mhz/higher performance per clock/increased IQ - texture depth/rez
unfortunately puts great load on the system so i dont recommend it up to you guys
Nice work. Can you expand on your comment 'puts great strain on the system' ? They look like 330uf Tantalums, that shouldn't load it up too much capacitance wise although the cap size may change the timing of the circuit inappropriately and a different size may be better. If you feel 330uf is not optimal, can you try something in the 100 - 270uf or >330uf range? The Direct CUII is running 470uf tantalums and the GTX480 uses 390uf polymers.
thanks.. from 4.8ghz i had to lower i7 980x to 4.6ghz then when liquid temp rose had to lower to 4.4ghz unless i kept the liquid cool i had system instabilities
thats i used the very same caps used on the rest of the card: aluminum panasonic ecg polymer 2.5v 330uf 6.0mohm esr
at first i was surprised too just how much load it felt like lol but after the results im ok with it
yeh i couldve gone with 470uf or like the ones on gtx480 but since the waterblock covers over these caps i was in no mood to try different capacitors+capacitances
i didnt test single card went straight to 3x cards but for a single card id say this mod is a go the load wouldnt affect the system as much
That's odd, to me that sounds unrelated. Having to lower CPU 400MHz to remain stable and then experiencing instability as liquid temps rose sounds system (not VGA) specific. Unless your cards became unstable at same clocks/voltage (and in fact you said you gained clocks), I'd suggest it's something other than those caps causing the CPU issues.
The caps don't cause the card to draw more power, nor run hotter. They just filter the mosfet DC output and the only added load would be the initial inrush current at power on when the mosfets have to charge the caps.
ok, tnx for the advice, i'm waiting for a 360 rad, then i'll koolance my evga ... :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Hi, guys!
I bought a GTX 580.
When I placed in the PC...My VID GTX 580 is 1.000V
Nvidia Inspector
http://computerforward.webcindario.com/VID%201.000V.jpg
What is the command for flashing GTX 580?
Nice 1V VID
If you use nvflash (and you should ;)), use commands "nvflash -r" first, it disables protections. Then "nvflash -4 -5 -6 580bios.rom".:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by M_T_M
I tried but does not grip "nvflash -r" first and "nvflash -4 -5 -6 580bios.rom"
You have to call your saved bios you want to flash 580bios.rom in that example too btw.
How well would you expect this to overclock? I have one that I havent tested yet and have listed it for sale, so tempted to keep it....Quote:
Originally Posted by vern
:up:
Any ideas of when is the Gigabyte GTX580 SOC going to be launched?
hi, i've got the same vid, msi reports 1.000 but gpu z reports lover vid,Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubeola
http://www.xtremeshack.com/immagine/i84503_vid.jpg
wich one is the correct one?
:D
http://www.shrani.si/t/H/10V/3SJrqwzs/7805.jpg
:D
http://www.shrani.si/t/1d/LT/2iOlwX42/1.jpg
BUT...
1. 3DM11
- SS + 6core CPU@5300MHz + GPU@990MHz on water. Score 75xx :down:
- SS + 6core CPU@4000MHz (just to see the difference) + GPU@990MHz on water. Score 75xx :down:
2. 3DM11
- AIR + 6core CPU@4400MHz + SS on GPU@1080MHz. Score 77xx
- AIR + 6core CPU@default + SS on GPU@1080MHz. Score 77xx-7805
WTF i don't understand this 3DM11 :confused:
This is not possible. Why 1xxxMHz brings no difference?
@p3gaz_001
Both, at idle the VID lowers to reduce temp and power usage.
I probably have the highest stock VID in this thread lol 1.088
whaaaaaaaaaaa 1.088? ahah ... wich temp do you get on your sys? :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cole2109
btw i need to know how come your 580 is running @ 1ghz :confused:
stock cooling? (i don't think) wich brand is yours, how much voltage for 1ghz? plz :up:
I think he wrote "water".Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Temp on the GPU ?Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Thats a bit hard to compare due to the auto fan speed profile, I've been running my voltage at 1.000 for some time already while using the reference EVGA SC speeds, (797core) and its pretty fine. Im not sure how much the 0.088v adds to the heat as well.
Probably gonna try 1.000 @ 850Mhz core next week, highest I tried to OC my card with at stock volts is 900Mhz Core, I dont know how to start or even check for memory stability so I didnt touch it.
Stock cooling? No hehe. Water. Max on water with open window 1006MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Its a bit hard to compare the temps since the fan is auto adjust and keeps the card under 85c at all times. Does 0.088v generate that much heat? I mean I've been running my card at 1.000 at EVGA SC speeds and I really cant tell the temperature difference but the card runs fine at 1.000Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
I also wonder why evga decided to give this card a stock 1.088v, i mean it runs perfectly fine at 1.000v and it OC's to 900Mhz core at stock VID.. maybe Im not stressing the card enough with games/3dmark11/heaven2.5 thats why I dont see it go unstable at 1.000v ?
i didn't saw it, btw i'm still waiting your 3dm vantage with ppu off, do you remembere? :rolleyes:.... (hwup)Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
ye i mean gpu temp on idle ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
u should try that 1.000v @ 850mhz, but make sure to rise up your mems ,
800\2000 850\2100 900\2200 --> 950mhz 2300 1ghz \2400
i have to try this too :up:
wich waterblock are you using on your card ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cole2109
don't know.... but for sure in my case if i try to run any 3d app at stock voltage (1.000) with 900mhz it crashes :down: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...tx-nickel.htmlQuote:
wich waterblock are you using on your card ?
nice :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cole2109
Depending on the time of day and ambient temp in my spot, its between 41 to 45c, looking at MSI ab now the lowest recorded core temp it went down was 41.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
How do I exactly test for mem OCing as people said GDDR5 as ECC and will be a bit difficult to overclock and check for stability because it automatically downclocks or is 2400Mhz 100% achievable on most cards?
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9092/catturaplxi.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Demo
this are my vga temps.
to test memory stability , some people suggest to use OCCT, or better crysis bench tool with 50 loops or more, unigine heaven, & co .... ;)
So how would I know if its stable, my performance along 50loops does not degrade coz from what I understand GDDR5 has ECC and auto downclock..
At 1.088 Ive been getting 40 as my min temps at 797core, so Im sure at 1.000 i can get about 37 as well. altho my ambient is pretty high since its summer in a tropical country!
Nice runs there Cole:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by cole2109
Do you have a pic of SS evap mounted on your 580?
can use this bios with my asus gtx 580 dcii to unlock voltage ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Asmola
thax .
http://img.techpowerup.org/110315/nv...315_171122.png
I have trial version so just one run. As I said, in any case, that GPU score is not influenced at all by PPU, so just make comparisons on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
some help plz .
Fermi Bios Editor 1.5.5 with GTX580 support
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia-driv...r-1-5-5-a.html
SLI run stock air 1.213V
CUIIs s/n B2CVCMs..
With UD7 gotta run 16X and 8X because of 3 slots each card
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7...nshot009cc.png
Guys with reference cards and water cooling - if you stick your finger on the back of the card (on the opposite side to the mosfets) is it hot when the card is under full load?
Yeah, and gets much hotter with OC, of course. I use fan, just to be sure it lives long and prosper. ;)
'11 kinda fun too:D
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/586...enshot018s.png
So its watercooled but you have a fan strapped to the back or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Very nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
**EDIT - what are you guys measuring for stock vgpu at the back of the cards? Is what you set in software what you get under load?
On stock volts doing 920 MHz core / 1840 MHz shader totally game/bench stable and have left mem at stock for now.
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...mstockvgpu.png
No, not all the time, just when looking for the edge of stability, to keep secondary heating out of the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I haven't measured actual temperature, but by the touch of the fingers I guestimate it's around 70-75°C.
Holy Bleep thats a lot of screen shots but nice man.
Damn i love this Asus DirectCu II GTX 580. 950MHz 1.125v 2250MHz mem 100% stable on any stress.
Here temps when stressed with Unigine Heaven 2.1. Fan-profile can be seen on left.
http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00517/7714296.png
Only "minus" comes from stock fan-profila which is way too tame.
I don't have the SS to prove it, but I can run about 965/2200 on my 1.000VID EVGA vanilla GTX580 on AIR stock cooler @ 100%, at 1.1v :) Heaven stable. 925/2200 at 1.075v BFBC2 Multi 6hour+ stable at 70% locked fan, max temp 75c
Pushed things a bit more testing the card.
950c | 1900s | 2250m @ 1.125v
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...250m1125mv.png
Stable at the above settings for over an hour in BFBC2 all settings maxed 1920x1200 32MSAA
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...2250m1125v.png
mine, a little bit ...Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
how to unlock voltage on my card ?
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5889/eewk.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/110315/nv...315_171122.png
I havent seen anyone else post a 1.088 stock VID card yet aside from my self, haha!
I fried the GPU folding for F@H and I dont find it reliable since some WU's only stress the GPU to a certain degree, like some WU's only push my GPU as high as 65c while other WU's can push it to 71.. Games on the other hand can easily make it hit 75c
i can say that my evga 1.000vid , never saw 70 C* even with stock cooling, 950/960/965 1.100 > 85% fan, now that i've koolance'd my evga, can't have 1ghz ... as don markoni did :|
(btw, i'm wondering why isn't present yet a gtx 580 official/overclocking, or whatever official 3d, like 460/560/570 has )
Mines 1.082 VID, so it's not far off yours. Yet it does 920c | 1840s | 2250m on stock volts, and as I showed in my last post 950c | 1900s | 2250m totally game/bench stable @ 1.125vQuote:
Originally Posted by Demo
You can also see there are guys with 1.000 VID cards can't hit 900 MHz on the core, and although may get to 950 MHz on say 0.0125v less than a higher VID card, still can't get much more than that when watercooled or with higher voltage.
I think core binning may not depend on VID but other properties too, and there is evidence of a MHz cap most can't push past regardless of VID/vGPU.
Mine only does 900Mhz Core (stock volts) and I dont know about the mem as I never bothered to OC them nor do I know how to test the mem for stability so it does not auto downclock. My max volts though is 1.150v
I had a 1.000 and a 1.038, neither would do over 880 at stock volts , nor over 930 maxed, even with asus bios mod. I have another one now that is supposed to do over 1000 so Im keen to give it a shot but I need to get the mcw80 fitted first.
:up:
Is there like a specific crysis or warhead benchmark loop that really stresses out the hardware that much ?
Benchmarks just don't stress the cards like gaming does. Furmark is just stupid, and works your PWM's and tests for max heat etc. Like I care how hot it's possible to get my card under those conditions. May as well put your tower in the oven and be like yo that's an awesome test my cards 200*C for 40 mins turning once while I cooked my dinner stable.
BFBC2 everything maxed 32MSAA is a good test, my personal fav is Atacama Desert as the the card has to render a lot of dust and smoke. Just play that for an hour or more and see how your card fares. Temps will climb slowly if you are on water and the system equilibrates to the CPU/VGA/Mobo heat output, and once it stabilizes thats when the stress test starts so to speak. If your OC is unstable (system too) that game will show it up pretty quickly.
I've only played the SP for BFBC2, is that a multiplayer map that I can load alone to testing/running around ?Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
your 1ghz video card how much voltage does it need to run at that speed?! :confused: and wich thermal grease have you used? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
@ Demo - Yeah jump in multiplayer and find a map no one is on, or just game like me in populated maps but make your own squad and lock it so no one joins you or just don't select put me in a squad so you can game alone.
asus tweak voltage cards has max 1.22v i've seen in some screens, i was wondering if i put that bios in my evga card if it will work or even edit ma bios ..... don't know if it works, and first of all if it's safe to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
I almost confirm this, I have Asus Voltage Tweak:Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
stock voltage: 1.012v
max voltage: 1.213v
Screenshot:
http://digilander.libero.it/m4puni/GTX580_nv_insp_1.png
hey my italian friend! :PP ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
wich is your asus card!? .... i suppose yours goes more than 970mhz?! isn't it?!
you should lc you card ;)
Unfortunately stock cooler. Benchable @about 940Mhz (no matter the voltage, it is just too hot).Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
got it, ..... when i was on stock cooling i was able to bench till 960mhz .... pretty good, by lc my 580 .... thinks aren't changed so much, 975mhz on unigine, but others benchs like 3dmv & 06 keep on crashing ..... this week i'mg gonna change thermal compound (i've used the one provided with the wb, Koolance) and see if i can go a little bit higherQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
And what about memory clock? How does it scale with voltage (tipically)?Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Give it some more juice! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Mine is 1.012 VID card and it needs 1.175V for 1000/2000/4800. Cooled with EK GPU Supreme, which is GPU ONLY WB (see below). Used OCZ Freeze thermal paste.Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
It's safe, as long as you keep it cool. I used up to 1.3V and it's still alive and kicking. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by p3gaz_001
Agreed. :up: Pushed up to 1.3V, but 1030MHz is just about all I can get with water cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
I was just about to say: play Crysis 2 multiplayer demo for couple of hours, it's stressful for graphic card, and releases stress from you. It does the the job for me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
I started thinking that these DirecCu II 580's doesnt support 1.213.. i get exactly same clocks with stock bios (1.15v) and this modded bios (1.213v).
I need to find my multimeter to confirm that but im pretty sure that's how it is..
Maxed 980MHz on Unigine Heaven. Atleast it's totally stable @ 950MHz 1.125v, and that's fast enough for 24/7..
So it seems high voltages are in most cases useless with these cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asmola
How about the Crysis Ambush demo loop or anything in Crysis warhead? I didnt download Crysis 2 Multiplayer. As of now Im playing Dragon Age 2 and its not a good game to stress the card, thats why Im resorting to automated demo loops.Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Why not. I was just referring you to something that could be fun. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
something like 900mhz -> 2000ram 930mhz 2200mhz 950mhz 2300mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
but u have to try since i've seen that 2300mhz ram speed is enough to handle diffrerents gpu core speed :)
ye i agree :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Maxed 980MHz on Unigine Heaven. Atleast it's totally stable @ 950MHz 1.125v, and that's fast enough for 24/7..[/QUOTE]
i've maxed 975mhz on unigine.. but is fine enough :rolleyes:
:up:
yes it seems so!Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher!
Crysis Ambush is fine , go for it like 30/50 loops, if you are not stable, u will see it in few loops!Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
What needs to be done to access vcore higher than 1.213v?Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
:up:
V-mod.
Alright, How about GDDR5 stability, I heard these things auto downclock if it goes to high.. would 2200Mhz on a GTX580 be like 100% attainable ?
EDIT:
Looks like ambush is not even able to maintain a constant 90% GPU usage, probably its my Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz thats being a bottleneck to the GPU.
EDIT2:
So today I was just stability testing on my GTX580 its been running at 900Mhz core for quite some time at stock VID of 1.088 and on my first run on heaven 2.5 I got a red colored lens flare rendering glitch, which I fails to repeat it self after i tried 10 more loops. Stability testing on videocard OC's are quite unsatisfying (haha!) using 1.1v is too much for me just to get 900Mhz core, maybe ill just dial down to 850Mhz core and undervolt my GPU.
I wonder how nvidia/evga came up to binning this chip at 1.088v, I mean if the chip can do 1.025v with 850Mhz core why is it binned at 1.088v
Your Q6600 is def bottlenecking the GPU. It doesn't nearly stress the gpu since you're bottlenecking hence theres no stability issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
I speak of experience, BFBC2 Q6600 GTX480 Low fps, overclocked a crap load, barely any fps difference.
Went on my 980, GTX480, just simply incredible :)