Beep, don't you have /had some 1.35v G.Skill Eco? I'm thinking about using somthing like those for a LLano HTPC. My Patriot 2000C8 1.65v won't even run 1866.
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Beep, don't you have /had some 1.35v G.Skill Eco? I'm thinking about using somthing like those for a LLano HTPC. My Patriot 2000C8 1.65v won't even run 1866.
That's what I was hoping when I stuck them in.
Using the blue slots, Stock (1.65 Cas8) @ 1866 gets me color corruption, random reboots and lockups.
Runs great @ 1600 Cas8 1.5v though which is all I need for HTPC but was hoping to get more out of those 2Gb 2000C8 sticks. They were really expensive a couple of years ago.
Already stuck it in the case and mounted it in the rack. Will experiment with timings after the holiday.
I think the integrated GPU benefits much more from more MHz than tighter timings though. So playing around in an attempt to get 1866 would be more worthwhile
To be perfectly honest, I'm not certain these are JNL, but I'm 90% sure they are :\ I just remember reading they were JNL from the OCZ thread. Actually, I think it might have been ME who asked LOL
I've held off on buying any yet. I'll wait till G.Skill gets whatever out to me that they can, if they can.
Anyone know what these PNY XLR8 have for ICs? The 2 kits I got arrived today (couldn't pass up for $19/ea 2x2GB), and I left my Timings as-is for what those PSC Kingmax run fine at for 1600 (7-8-7-22 @ 1.65V/1.7V actual), but the XLR8 wouldn't POST. They required their 8-8-8-24 2T advertised at 1.65V (actual), but seemed to need an extra .1V in order to pass Intel Burn Test 2GB@5 passes (set with 1T though). They perform great at those timings and speed, managing 10GB/s in MaxxMEM with 3.2GHz on the 1090T and 2800NB (2200HT not that it matters). I think those Kingmax with 7-8-7 and tighter subtimings only does like 9.8GB/s, so if so I think that's rather impressive. I've got all 4 modules in (unmatched, mind you) running their defaults with 1T, same voltage of 1.66V (actual). Passed IBT with 6000MB@5 passes. Tried to see how low they'd go for timings and won't even do 5-5-5 @ 1066 :\ Have yet to see if voltage helps. Surprisingly the MaxxMEM is only down to 9.14GB/s, with the copy dropping about 250mb/s to 13000mb/s, read dropping from 10600 to 9000 and write staying the same at 9200 o_0 (again, 4 modules, stock CPU, 2800NB)
Mhz does help. Right up until voltage kills it. That's why I want lower voltage ram. The more voltage I give these patriots the worse it runs. I can get into desktop and halfway through a 1080p Youtube vid @ 1866/C8 1.5v before it reboots. More voltage = bluescreen. I need some other ram but these will work at 1600 1.5v
I have a little Question: I haven't read the hole 25 pages of this thread, but has somebody of you tested G.Skill Flare 1800 @ 7-8-7 1,65V ? Are these Hypers ?
Yep, 1600/6.6.6.1.65v works fine just like it did with the X6 but 1866 isn't even close to working no matter what I do.
Swapped out the Patriot PVV34G2000LLKB for 4G of G.Skill 1600C7 1.6v and set them to 1866C8 1.60v and BINGO no problem! Vantage went from 4180 to 4372 but windows experience is still 5.9 for Ram... should be higher shouldn't it?
No, because you're now at C8, which offsets some of the performance gain from increased speed. Aside from the tests being very different, your WEI could be what it is because of your hard drive, as mine is. (X6 at stock, NB@2800, 4x2GB PNY XLR8 1600 8-8-8-24 2T 110ns) Now, if you mean your Memory's subscore = 5.9, yes, something is a bit wonky. Unfortunately I don't know what my score is with my NB@2000MHz for comparison to where I'm at now for WEI, but I'm quite certain my 555BE with my 2x2GB OCZ Reaper at 1600 7-7-7 was still a 7+ subscore.
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Yeah, it's the ram sub score that is 5.9. Hard disk (SSD) is 7.9 This is for an A8-3850 on an Asus F1A75-M pro board.
Can you post a screenshot of your Memory timings page from AOD (or CPU-Tweaker, if it works), and list what you IMC is running at?
Two things I can think of as the cause: Platform is new enough that there are some issues with RAM compatibility, or your running in Ganged mode. On the latter, please don't think that I think you're not competent enough to spot that, but "to err is only human" :D
There is no Ganged/Unganged mode in the factory Bios for this board. Asus F1A75-M Pro
I'm not trying to overclock it, just optimizing the stock settings and find which is the best ram from the sticks I already have. The Patriot 2000C8 1.65v ram should have worked at 1866 (failed @ 1866C10!) but I had failures similar to what the guys that are OC ran into, usb failure, PS2 port failure, colored blocks and lines artifacts etc. 1600C6 or 1333C5 1T 1.65v is OK. Works great at 1600C8 1T 1.5v which is what I am looking for - fastest ram at 1.5v (or less).
The G.Skill 1600C7 1.6v will do 1866C8 1.6v (only at 2T).
The 3DMark Vantage scores are good for stock speeds so I'm not worried about the WEI Ram score, just thought it was a little low compared to the other systems I have. Maybe future bios will help.
That worked.
I combined those 2 4Gb kits (@1600C8 1.6v) and WEI ram jumped from 5.9 to 7.5.
Lost 60 points in Vantage.
What can you say about this G.Skill F3-14400CL7D-4GBFLS http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=274 ...
Did you test with 1333 C5 1T? You should have significantly higher gaming FPS with the 1333 C5, which if both kits can pull that off, that would be even better! :D
Aside from being virtually unobtainable? :( (Ukraine may be a different story, but it's pretty hard to find in the US)
They are optimized for AMD, just so you are aware. Like any RAM it doesn't mean they won't work in Intel, just the advertised timings are for AMD.
My Kingmax modules (the 2x2gb 2200 10-10-10) have PSC and King's site states a max operating voltage of 1.8V. Mind you, I'm not trying to insinuate in any way that would be smart as I really am not sure safe 24/7 on the PSC IC. King offers lifetime (who doesn't?) so it'd seem like if that was going to be a high risk for module death that they wouldn't spec them at that, right? :shrug:
Though, they might have re-done their timings it looks like, as their XMP on my sticks is 10-10-10, vs this page spec listing of 10-11-10. Maybe they will do 2200 after all haha We'll see when these FM1 boards come I guess :D I've managed 7-8-7 at 1600 1.65V
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‧CAS Latency:1600MHz / 2000MHz :CL9
2200MHz : CL10 (10-11-10-30)
2400MHz : CL10
‧Bandwidth:1600MHz(12.8GB/sec)
2000MHz(16GB/sec)
2200MHz(17.6GB/sec )
2400MHz(19.2GB/sec )
‧Voltage: 1.5~1.8v
‧Capacity:
1600MHz / 2000MHz / 2200MHz:
- Single Channel - 1GB/2GB/4GB
- Dual Channel - 2GB/4GB/8GB
2400MHz:
- Single Channel - 2GB/4GB
- Dual Channel - 4GB/8GB
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My Ripjaws are better than that and will not post at 1333 5-6-5.
1.8v is not safe or even logical on PSC. Scaling past 1.7 is useless.
Yea nothing I have will do CL5 either, considering these Kingmax won't do CL6 1333 lol They just aren't the best binned, which isn't much of a surprise. But my D9 IC OCZ 1600 7-7-7 1.9V sticks only manage 6-6-6 1333. It'll do 5-5-5 but is not stable.
Good to know that 1.8V isn't wise, but that does make me wonder how long these modules will last heh I've not had them long, but I HAD been running them rather high our of ignorance, and then I found out the BIOS setting is ~0.05V lower than actual. So 1.8V was quite a bit more! :S
Just like ADATA Hyper XPG+ kits were...
Loose binning, so your kit might need 1.5v to do rated specification while another might barely do it at 1.8.
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Prime95 blend test (2Hr. 44min.)
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nice clocks, but wouldn't it have been cheaper to go straight for decent PSC kit ?
and LinX
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Patriot Viper II Sector 5 2250 9-9-9-27 (PVV34G2250LLK) Elpida MGH-E, 1.72v
Pre- test...
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The one site I had read a few months ago, along with a spreadsheet with DDR3 overclocks showed SP1 as taking out a fair chunk of bandwidth. However, and I could be blind, but I don't see where it says he IS running SP1 :\ Unless you meant SPi, as in SuperPi...
I tried talking G.Skill into releasing a new kit for the AMD FX series... don't think they went for it lol
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the new memories from GSKILL for AMD have F and X , but they aren't ripjaws :D :D
A bit of a rare set G. SKill Flare 4GB Kit DDR3 14400 CL7 8-7-24 1.65v, strips were taken 4х2GB, twin whales.
The first sets were released on ELPIDA MGH-E HYPER, then went to the PSC (Powerchip Semiconductor Corporation)
http://s09.radikal.ru/i182/1110/97/8ab830e66cbe.jpghttp://s54.radikal.ru/i143/1110/e1/95d96a32e7db.jpg
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For lack of a platform for AMD, has been tested on BIOSTAR TP67XE.
Profiles written into SPD.
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Starting at the same timings failed, had to raise trcd unit above is not clearly Elpida ...: scratch:
Omit samples and search for stable frequency / timings as that found for super pi 32m is 2133MHz CL6 9-7-24 1.68v.
http://s41.radikal.ru/i092/1110/0c/56adc06366ce.jpg
The highest incidence was unable to determine because of the weak bus in the processor. It is clear that AMD will reveal quite memory
And for a snack, something that inevitably would have to do :D
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These strips on Asus Crosshair IV running 6-6-6-21 bei 1800 MHz 1.65V
Let's wait for this set of tests Judge13
my Eco vdimm 1,65v
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more and max push at same vdimm
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i bet can reach timing Flare @2000Mhz but i can't got stable :rolleyes:
please run 32m and see how far it can go regarding Eco.
I ordered 2133 cl9 Gskill 2x4 and will compare it with eco :p I Too bad 2133 cl7 is sold out for 4gb though it'd be funnier to test 16gb for OC in future
Deneb before week 15 2010 - up to 1.4v should be safe 24/7 after that follow thuban.
Thuban - keep it around 1.35v.
best ram for buldozer ? i cant get any to work over 1333 on my BD setup :(
What have you used till now?
Here is my FX-8150 with my Corsair Dominator GT-1600mhz 6-6-6-20 hypers from my X58 setup
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any effect if for tRAS & tRC if both is below18?
tRC =11, easier on Thuban IMC = sometimes more ram clock to offset bandwidth losses. chew* described it as your heart skipping a beat, it won't kill you but its not optimal for efficiency. Keep it at tRCD+tRAS.
As far as tRAS goes, on Hypers above 1800 Mhz you MUST slacken to 17 in most cases, my ram definately didn't pull 15 much over 1600. I could run 17 until 1900 though. It will continue to need slackened as Mhz increases.
I would have to guess that Riska is up in 1.85v-1.9v land with his sticks. My STT 2000 C7 needed 1.91v to validate 2022 Mhz CL6-6-6 on Thuban. My kit is a little better than average Corsair 1600 C6 looking at other results.
My sticks is getting 1.7825volts and they have never gotten more than that. On my Rampage black edition with my 980x id did nearly the same speed at same volts
Crosshair V Formula is overvolting Dram quite a bit, real voltage on the rams was at least 1.8V i guess. Never the less, very impressive frequency for 6-6-6 timings.
any thoughts about this kit for BD?
im looking for 16gb kit (for eventual 95w 8120 bd which I dont have yet).
Difficult to decide if I'd use Gskill Eco for OC and use any cheap 16gb kit for workstation hmm. psc, hynix bfr?
DDR3-2585 9-9-9-28 in dual channel with GTX2. Didn't push hard, but I bet 2600+ is possible. And this on CHIV :D.
Not sure if possible with current bios. Tried hard at 2285, but couldn't manage to run Prime95 error-free for more than ~10 minutes.
I think the IMC craps out or the divider is buggy. Same with the Trident kit, which validated 1330MHz, but I reached the CPU-NB limit. Really need other mem dividers (highest now is 1866).
The 1.7825volts are measured with a DM and it is set at 1.725 in bios
Thanks Leeghoofd! :up:
I just ordered a set of these (hopefully it's the same kit :p:), they're on sale at the Egg for $70 w/discount...!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231476
I didn't read this whole thread so if you don't mind would you post your best clocks (or link it for me)...
Thanks, Dave
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Well, I finally got these Ripjaw 2133's today. I haven't had much time to play with them, so these are really early results. ;)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231476
So far, I kind of have mixed feelings...
The clocks are really good, but I'm having a hard time tightening timings.
Maybe it's just the nature of an 8gb kit, but my old Mushkin Lovos (4gb 2x2) were killer and did 2040 @ 7-10-7 stable.
Anyway, heres what I've gotten after a few hours (seemingly stable):
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...133RipJaws.png
It's a nice kit for $70... Guess I was just hoping for a little more as far as timings go. :p:
I obviously have alot more work to do, but I'm just looking for opinions... ;)
4gb density says it all...
Do I have any chanche for 2133MHz on BD with the below four modules?
http://i41.tinypic.com/110vcs1.jpg
Hypers, yeah I should think so.
I got me a kit of Gskill Tridents 16000 C9 i planned to put into my mom in law's computer but after testing i think i am gonna keep them myself:
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I think 500% HCI memtest can be considered stable.
I tried higher but it errored, more volts backfired badly, 165V in bios which is approx. 1.675V real seemed to be the sweet spot. It booted at Trcd 8 but it wasn't even remote stable.
From what i've read these babies should contain Elpida BBSE chips.
Only paid €60,- for this kit so not too bad i think. :)
Very nice.
better BBSE was able to pull just about 2000 7-8-7...
I'm eying a Team LV kit, 2000 9-9-9 ;)
Thanks.
I think this kit can pull that off too but not stable and i prefer to have my ram fully stable to avoid a corrupt OS.
I tried DDR2000 7-8-7 with 1.625V in bios and it did boot but once i tried to set trcd back to 9 and tried to save and exit it frooze. Some more volts will get me into Windows i'm sure but not as stable i would like.
very nice RAMs here...I dont tried much some max RAMs at FX, for daily use Im at 1134.5 MHz( so 2269 MHz) 8-10-8-28-44-1T
It seems to me that GSkill is doing a pretty tight binning process for the ic on their kits. I think the good strong clocking ic are binned and held for their more expensive offerings. Their more pedestrian everyday kits seem to perform up to spec along with perhaps a nominal overhead.
I bought some cheap (on sale) 2x4gb Gskill Sniper 1866 kits (9-10-9-28-2T @1.5v) and they don't seem to tighten up very much or for that matter overclock all that well... i.e... 2133 with more relaxed timings while raising the dram volts to ~1.65v. I'm currently running 16GB at 1920 9-10-9-27-1T with ~1.587v.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231460
These are my initial impressions... I haven't had them for long or even tried them on my SB platform... so there may be room for further improvement. :shrug:
Adata2000G v.2 @2087 C6-10-6 1T :D
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Phenom II X5 1055t + Sabertooth 990FX + Super Talent Speed 2200 CL8:
749 MHz @ 5-5-5-15 11 1t @ 1.66v - 32m
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906 MHz @ 6-6-5-15 30 1t @ 1.73v - 32m
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I've just got myself a set of Corsair Vengeance 1600 CL8 sticks which appear to be Micron based, currently got them at CL7 @1333. Anyone know if these are better at tighter timings or higher speeds?
thanks for the offer
but I've bought 16gb kit, cheapest one :D I got know from Hiwa that all RipjawZ are hynix bfr so I will check it out with my phenom 955 limited imc (a bit over 1900). I dont know how hynix bfr plays with lower latency.
http://www.memoryc.com/computermemor...79quadkit.html
1600 CL9 might not be Hynix BFR. All the high performance kits are (2133/2400)
Phenom II X4 965 BE + Crosshair V + Dominator GT 1600 CL6:
906 MHz @ 6-6-5-15 22 1t @ 1.74v - 32m
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929 MHz @ 6-6-5-15 30 1t @ 1.76v - 1m
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Hey spcial- change tras to 17+ and you will gain ~50 MHz with no efficiency loss...also 6-6-5 is slower on AMD for some reason
hmmm, slower than what? (6-6-6)?
Yes. But you don't lose stability with 6-6-5 anyway. Try 6-6-6-18-11 or 6-6-6-17-11. I can easily run tRC = 11 on AMD platform with my Dominators.
Highest I've run on Deneb/Callisto was this http://hwbot.org/submission/2132423 . Maybe I could have gone higher, but the challenge rules didn't allow CPU speed above 4500.
Guys, I need your help. I am trying to get full stability from my Samsung 30nm. I am quite stable as you can see in the screenshot on my signature but with AUTO sub-timings I am getting random Prime95 errors.
Now I have put them like this (according to memory SPD @ CL8):
http://digilander.libero.it/m4puni/p...0120123013.jpg
but in the memory SPD (according to Everest) I couldn't find right values for:
- tRTTO
- tWRRD
- tWRWR
- tRDRD
(The values set to AUTO from top to bottom in the bios screen).
What should I put there?
Also, from the timings I have already set which would you change and why?
Thanks a lot. Goodbye.
8+8+8 = 24, try 24 instead of 22
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:eek:, unbelievable!
'grats mate!
I have to quote. I would like to see more real stability test like Prime95 too, set as follows:
- select Blend as Torture Test and then Custom
- put 7000MB of RAM to be tested (leave at least 1000MB for s.o.)
Result:
http://digilander.libero.it/m4puni/p...hz_1.6V_1m.jpg
Keep it for at least 2 houres (better if more than 8/12).
Goodbye.
Update @2400C6 Vdim1.79 :D:D
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:clap: how much voltage for that?
It is definately a WR for stability @ CAS6