Got the LV Plats to run 240b-5:6 divider in the rev1.0 giga board. Seem to score as well in Everest as the GSkill pi's.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6...40b1200mhz.png
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Got the LV Plats to run 240b-5:6 divider in the rev1.0 giga board. Seem to score as well in Everest as the GSkill pi's.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6...40b1200mhz.png
Today I installed 4 GB of OCZ 1150 Low Voltage to my system (Phenom II 955, Gigabyte GA-MA790X UD3P). I have the impression that the RAM is getting to hot... my sensors show 45-52 C°. The problem is that Gigabyte overvolts the RAM, so the minimum of voltage I can give to my RAMS is 1,84 Volt. Hm, according to the OCZ homepage they should work finde with 1,84 volt... is it ok that they get so hot?
THX for your help!
I'm considering getting the Platinum 1066 version of these. I have a question on compatability though, I have a DFI P45 Jr and DFI boards are known for quirks and being picky with components this one seems no different. Does anyone know personally or read that these sticks are working fine with that board? A generic 'it will work with P45 boards' answer won't mean much so if you don't know for certain don't waste your time posting :)
More details, if I decide to just try them or if someone says 'yes' - it will be with a Q9550. I'm looking for somewhere between 425-450 FSB and will thus need to use an up divider ratio for the RAM. Does anyone know which dividers work well or not on P45 in general and the DFI P45 Jr in particular? Thanks.
Its pot luck with DFI. I've owned a lot of DFI boards and made sure every component was on the compatibility list - I still got problems. I own a LV Plat 9200 kit and they are good and stable, even on my board they get rather warm though so a fan / RAM cooler will certainly help them.
Had these sticks for about 2 weeks and they just crapped out. Had them running in a P5Q Deluxe @ 1216 max 1.86 V or so, set at 1.8V in bios but the board overvolts. Crap Ram if you ask me, no over volting and one stick doesn't last a month. OCZ fails to impress yet again.:down:
I'm sorry but I think is't bad luck :(Quote:
Originally Posted by vrdublu
What's up with blades and availability in EU ? It seems that they're out of stock for over 2 months now, at least in memoryc.com...Anyone has any info from OCZ on that ?
i think there is "general" supply shortage., check for example newegg, u wont find them for sale, also geizhals.at returns eshops only to find out a moment later that all are zero stock. who knows maybe OCZ got scared of ddr3 elpida-chip deaths.. and didnt want to repeat this in ddr2. I recently bought the Gskills 8800 pi 8gb (4x2gb) and they behave like being with elpida chips.. (1200 5-5-5-15 trfc 60 with 1.89volt (minimum volt on DQ6) and almost zero scalling with voltage), u should try to find a "fresh" stock-ed 8800 pi 4gb kit , (i say fresh cause older kits were reported to top at 1170 and weren't elpida) and hope to have similar chips like that used on 8gb kit.
These kits are great, vrdublu.
May be you have "bad hands" ?
What power supply do you have? My 1150's running strong at 1.85v (real is 1.86v) for 2 months. and I have the platinums...they run hot compared to the blades.Quote:
Originally Posted by vrdublu
These LV sets are a thing of the past... that's the way DDR2 is going. Check ebay, everybody is selling their stuff off lol.
My 1150 Blades did 1150MHz below 1.8v. I think it's luck of the draw - since they started binning them more tightly, they don't clock as well or like the extra volts.
I'm sorry for your bad experience but these sticks are decent quality most of the time. My kit has been running half a year now in my 24/7 computer without any problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by vrdublu
I think other manufacturers got interested in these sticks as well, but supply by Elpida is not up to the demand. So the prices increase and most likely OCZ doesn't want to pay huge prices for DDR2-ICs any more. Just have a look at the DDR2 Dominator GT and you get what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by felix_w
Dying of Elpida ICs was only the case for MNH-E Hypers, DDR2 ICs, afaik all other ICs made by Elpida were not affected.Quote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
Yeah, guys. My top kit OCZ2B1200LV4GK runs at 1200 Mhz at @1,78 volts. And the kit is just warm. I was running Windows MemTest 3.9 the whole night using 3500 Mb - no errors.
I`m just happy with this kit.
If the Trident LV kits use the same ICs as the blades, which I believe they do, then you can still get them but they are extortionate. There's a set on ebay UK for £150.99 :rofl:
have u tried to increase voltage to see their "response" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Sold mine this week for about 100$. :D
Think this is top-of-the-line DDR2 memory,at least for those who managed to grab one of those pre-binning kits.
These I had have been binned pretty tight,I could not go past 1135MHz on both DFI UT P35-T2R nor GB P35-DQ6,both topped at around
1130MHz,so I think it's not up to the board,but to the memory instead.
But they are ice cold compared to my Mushkin I had owned before these Blades LV.
1066 MHZ are available at newegg for 70 bucks.
I bought this kit months ago with ~the same results as Tony, but I run AMD.
940-980 4-4-4 is doable with 1.85 no sweat. Never tried for more, adjust skew to -150-300 to pass 900 though.
5-5-5 at 1.85 scaled right up to 1175 MHZ. Never tested for stability. Using mine now a 900 MHZ 4-4-4 1.775v (and skew as mentioned) for the last 3 months :)
Drive strengths and sub-timings?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuromancer
I'd love to do 4-4-4 at the speeds I'm at right now, I've got an 1150 kit @ 960. Just, I can't get it to post. ...:ROTF:
It's an AMD platform but I'd think there would be someway of getting it to run there...:confused:
Didn`t try, I am afraid of it. It is not a legendary CellShock "Red Devil" kit (see my avatar :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by papatsonis
Have not had the time to play with DQS and subtimings are all on auto. Will grab a memset screenie though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Someday I hope to know enough about DRAM to tune it up nice :) I run all types of hardware though so getting the time to run on a single platform, generally does not happen.
Will you use the Blades in your 965 BE C3 rig? They "should" clock better on a newer IMC revision.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Yeah, but my old 2x1GB promos sticks did 1000 4-4-4-10...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
The 790X motherboard is coming soon, 965 BE is far away...about a month from now...its my Christmas present. :rofl:
Also while on the topic:
How well do these take 1.9v? Would it be safe for 24/7?...my new motherboard is either 1.8v or 1.9v, nothing in between. I hate Gigabyte but its my only choice for a mobo which wont blow up if I OC the CPU.
I run 1.83v now...
There are over 5 auctions on ebay (more than 10 items per auction) with 299€ (!!!!) price for a pair of 8500 Blades...all from the same seller.....:down:
Even at the price of 111€ found on some EU stores, you get a promising product...but 299€ ????, man...someone's making a very high profit...:shakes:
Those are most likely binned pretty tight.Nevertheless,300€ for a memory which is on it's leaving is brainless.
Overclockers.uk have 2 kits in stock atm with 70 pounds price tag.
Well, my LV Blades did 500MHz CL4 on my Intel rig too... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
I think I'll get myself a AM2+ board for Christmas too, I'll give my sticks a spin.
My sticks are running at a little over stockspeed at 1.80V in my 24/7 rig, 1.90V will make them run hotter, you should at least put a fan over them. I'm not sure how they will react to 1.90V over an extended period of time, they did it just fine during my testing however.
Nah,1.9v certainly won't do them any harm.They are ice cold at 1.9v compared to my Mushkin PSC based modules i've had.
I believe some of the moderators from OCZ forum state 1,93V the highest safe voltage for them,anything above won't generate
anything but heat.
Yeah, I know Tony stated that and I told the same in one of my first posts in this thread. ;)
For benching a tad over 1.90V is fine, I just meant I don't have any experience with these Blades running at higher volts for a long period of time.
is it possible to use a trfc < 50? with 1.8v and 1200mhz ...
i'm 24/7 with this setting
1200 5 5 5 15 50 pl 7 on p35
i can bench 10070mb/s in read and 50.6 in latency but i seen a little increase from trfc 54 to 50...
Quote:
Originally Posted by žile
Thanks guys...I'm running the Platinum's though, same sticks with the black PCB but they do get a tad warm at 1.80v...which is why I'm wondering if 1.9v 24/7 would do any long term damage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Yeah I am interested in the LV Blades for a 790FX M2R (had it laying around so I'll just use it instead of spending ~$195 for a newer DDR3 board) like Tony over @ the OCZ Forums (and here???). So......IF Lenny is right how would I know???Quote:
Originally Posted by LennyRhys
GSkill Tridents @ Newegg for $94
Can't find the LV Blades anywhere and Amazon has 1-3 months??? for shipping...too bad I wasn't looking for these last May......
Has any one tested the LV blades with an Asus Commando?
If yes, does the board boot with the sticks after a clear cmos.
I still love my D9 ballistix but having to fiddle around with valueram and removing the ballistix after every crash or clear is quite annoying.
Theoretically these LV sticks would be the solution to my problem. If nobody has tried it I might just buy them and try for myself:p:
Gendo
I guess you are the first :)
Too bad they are very hard to come by here in the Netherlands:( It would suck to wait for them for a month and then find out they don't do what I need them to do:p: Aaah well, I'll contact some webshops after christmas:D
Got 'm from Alternate.nl a couple of months ago, not sure if they still sell them. Pretty sure your board will boot after a cmos reset with those sticks inserted.
They have them listed but they can't give an eta, as all webshops that have the LV Blades listed:(
I remember C de Weerd @ hardwareinfo had a kit for sale some time ago, don't know if he still has them though but it might be worth looking into. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gendo
A few months ago it was a pita to come by with them, and now is even worse I believe.
Try looking on eBay perhaps? I got mine from there back in October.
I think they might even be EOL as it seems. Whenever I saw them in webshop, they were out of stock, some of them state they won't
be getting them anymore.
I guess they had too small yields and given the fact DDR2 is legacy, probably we won't see much of them anytime soon.
Pity cause I think it was the best DDR2 memory. Shame it emerged on the market when DDR2 technology was already in decline :(
I don't remember where I read it but last week I read somewhere on these forums about a new shipment of these Blades, so I quickly scanned the webshops for stock and I found a PC8500 kit:D Well actually according to the spd it's PC8900:p:
But then my good news: they BOOT on Asus Commando after a clear cmos:D
Testresults coming soon, I need a cpu that doesn't have a 133 or 200 fsb with locked multi:p:
Don't be expecting anything crazy since they are probably binned tight. :p:
Only the first few batches were awesome with 1260 with low vDIMM, after that they started to bin them.
Expect to hit the next Blade SPD declared frequency, but not much after that.
Well, here I go:
1150's...at 1.9v (read as 1.95v on BIOS sensor)
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4320/everest1200.jpg
They top out at 1165 at 1.8v *shakes head* At 1.9v, (or, err, 1.95?) I can not boot into windows over 1210 at even 5-5-5-18 tRC 30.
I'm sending mine back to get my money back. I started another OC project and I'm not planning on benching S775 much the next few weeks/months.
Time for 32nm:D
I already spent the Blade money on Gskill 1600 CL7 Ecos:p:
Has anyone had to raise the voltage on these? It used to run fine at 1.8v at 266-280 bus speed but now 1.8-1.9v get me bsod. I'm having to run them at 2.2v right now since even 2.1v crashed firefox and gave me a 0xc0000005 error in L4D2. I'm 90% sure it's my motherboard at fault it's given me nothing but :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
:eek: 2.2v will certainly fry them if they aren't already dead.
Put everything back to stock, try one stick at a time using memtest (not the DOS version) etc. Last time I had a problem like this it was my PSU, which happened to be the last component I checked :brick:
Holy crap! 2,2V will kill this kit!!!
Use Windows MemTest. DL it here.
ddr2 spec says ram has to be able to handle 2.2v without permanent damage.I'll be sure not to rule out the PSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by LennyRhys
I don't know whether to laugh or cry...Quote:
Originally Posted by vazel
Your OCZ kit is protected up to a MAX of 1.85v - official OCZ page for LV kits is right here :up:
These sticks usually don't gain any clockspeed with that much excess voltage anyway. Either way, lower the voltage or hope OCZ will take back cooked sticks :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by vazel
It's part of the JEDEC spec that 1.8v ddr2 has to run at a max of 2.2v without permanent damage. It doesn't have to run stable it just will not die. I've had ddr2 that doesn't run stable at 2.2v but I was able to lower the voltage again without any permanent damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by LennyRhys
That guy got me thinking it could be my PSU. I'll try my old Antec PSU. There is something in my system responsible for oddities I thought it was the mobo.
Got a 4GB kit of the 8500 LV Plats on the way from Amazon. Bought for $98 on Sunday a day before they shot up $10.
Sounds like a stupid spec to me - all my Micron D9 kits have died below 2.2v, one of them at only 2.15v with active cooling. In any case, these LV modules don't comply with the JEDEC standard because they use low voltage ICs.Quote:
Originally Posted by vazel
@WrigleyVillain, hope you get one of the kits that was made before the binning got tight and you should get nice numbers with it. I used to have the 1150 LVs which would do 1200mhz @ 1.9, unlucky for me I didn't get one of the pre-binned 8500/9200 kits which could do 1200 at stock volts. :(
Haha well it's not stupid since JEDEC is the one that sets down the rules for RAM. Your micron didn't die from the volts if it died only at 2.1v. You're right in that OCZ Blade RAM doesn't comply with JEDEC standards but not because of voltages. Any ddr2 speed beyond 800mhz is not standardized. I'm confident the ram could've kept running at that voltage but I put it down to 1.8v to test with the other PSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by LennyRhys
Edit: And actually the maximum ddr2 should handle is 2.3v I just checked. Says it should remain stable up to 1.9v but still be able to handle up to 2.3v without permanent damage. It's just like how CPUs have maximum allowed voltages, I think 45nm Intels are at 1.36v maximum.
vazel, though it's specced you know it's not always true.
Alot of GKX and GMH kits died out at just 2.2v after not-so-much time...
This LV Blade / LV Platinum is 40nm Elpida stuff, it can't take much more than 1.9v...it's basically low-speed DDR3 on a DDR2 stick imo.
I'd say with voltage it's about as tolerant as D9JNL DDR3.
Have fun with your kit! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
RAM manufacturers did never care a lot about JEDEC specs, there were sticks featuring D9GMH/GKX that were rated for 2.5V, though it was never specced by JEDEC. These LV Blades will degrade very fast at more than 2.0V, they already get warm at 1.9V. This is not your typical DDR2 memory, forget about JEDEC. Please understand, I don't want to sound rude, but what you're doing is very dangerous for your memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by vazel
And by the way, DDR2-1066 IS standardized. ;)
Isn't OCZ a prominent member of JEDEC? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Many RAM manufacturers are a member of JEDEC, how could they get access to the latest technologies and have a say in the developement of future technologies otherwise? Being a member of JEDEC and actually caring about their specs when designing a product are two totally different things though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Just because manufactures make ram outside of spec does not mean they don't care. You are grossly underestimating the role JEDEC serves for compatibility. There has always been memory made outside of JEDEC spec to cater to enthusiasts since the ddr1 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
And yea my bad about ddr2-1066.
Where did the rest of your post go? So did you find JESD208 now? ;)
Sure, this is what I mean. I'm not underestimating JEDEC as a factor defining standards that are needed for stable operation of memory modules, but you can't tell people that every RAM has to be able to withstand 2.3V without problems, cause I'm pretty sure this RAM will get very hot doing so and thus run very unstable. Have a look at my first or second post in this thread, my kit was able to run 533MHz CL5 ( stock settings in fact ) at 1.65V. This has never been specced by JEDEC as well.
I just don't want to get people to kill their memory because they think it's safe using high voltages on this kit.
Taken from JESD79-2:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/206...dr2voltage.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/362...ddr2speeds.jpg
79-2 shows 800 as the highest standardized, I haven't seen JESD208 yet.
Max voltage IS 2.3v but look what I highlighted...
EDIT DDR2-1066:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8...21066jedec.jpg
I'm not saying it can't be done, D9 won't die from 3.0V instantly as well.
Did you ever hear of Electromigration? If not, check it. :)
Edit: There we go. ;)
I was never planning at running 2.2v for an extended period. Ok getting back to my problem. Changing PSUs didn't help but changing ram slots did. So far. Will have to continue gaming for a week to know for sure. Reason I don't just run a stability test is because this doesn't show in a stability test. I've passed prime95 for 24hrs, Linx for 20 passes and memtest and then during regular gaming/desktop it'll crash anyway.
LOL I accidentally ordered 3 sets from Amazon instead of just one. Already got a refund auth for two of them but guess what I'm thinking...just not sure if I can safely open them without voiding any returns.
These OCZ blister packs tend to split and crack very easily. I'd say it'd be safer just to open the one. :)
So how far do they go? any luck with 1100MHz and over at 5-5-5-15?Quote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
They get here Thursday. Just read this whole thread and I was already kicking myself (while scratching my head) as I somehow missed these when they were released and cheap and plentiful. Now I read I could have gotten this Plat kit (with black PCB too) for $43 from Amazon early last summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpuTnicK
Sonofab1tch. :slap:
Ok they are here, a day early. Good old Amazon. One set of the 3 doesn't have a black pcb or otherwise scream "pick me!!!" so I'm going to open the one that actually has the labels placed on non-crookedly :lol:
EDIT:
Well so far the good news is that the packs open really easily (which when it comes to blister packs is welcome in general). The bad news so far is I am having trouble with them at low voltage, so far even rated 1066 at 1.95v. Memtest chokes right away. My board does undervolt RAM .05 (according to BIOS anyway) but I am accounting for that. Though not about these specific sticks, according to this post at Clunk's my board should be able to do it, in fact one guy is running 8GB of OCZ Flex LV near 1200 1.85v. Before I changed from 333 strap to 400/800 and manually loosened tRFC and PL I couldn't even POST. My Dominators for example will fire right up at stock clocks which is 333/800 strap at 1.85v but these won't. Tried more than one kit and a single stick too.
Going to try a different BIOS or two next. Any other suggestions appreciated! :up:
Hello Villain, stalked you here from the linkback. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by WrigleyVillain
Just to be accurate, I don't have Flex LV, I have 4 sticks of PC8500 Platinum LV, exactly the ones you have, and your same board too!
That's why I am extremely surprised that you're having all this problems.
Haha I havent given up yet!
When I got my 1150 blades they were straight in at 1.8v...any sign of instability and I was getting my money back pronto. Fortunately for OCZ they were stable at 1.79v actual.
If LV modules aren't working with rated volts (EVP is 1.85) I'd argue they aren't what they claim to be. Something is definitely wrong if you can't get 1066 stable, considering it's now a standardized frequency and in practice should be "plug and play."
Well, my Plat's worked quite nice and top out at around 1230 benchable @ 1.9...
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3029/15350.png
They dont do more than 1190 @ 1.8v
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the advantage of the LV version of the OCZ platinum verses the higher voltage ones? I understand the less heat generated, somewhat. The reason I'm very interested I have the Gigabyte MA790X-UD4P and will be upgrading my cpu from an AM2 5600+ to the 965BE c3 and I'm wanting to get the best memory I can get for this board and cpu combo. Also, would there be limitations to running two kits for a total of 8GB's? Sidenote, BeepBeep2, where did u get that wallpaper of the Dragon? I WANT IT! Thanks, in advance, for any responses.
Hi!
I have OCZ PC2-9200 (1150Mhz) Low Voltage Blade Series. and i wonder what is max. safe volt for 24/7.
Is 1.85v max or can i have 1.9v?
1.85v don´t work when i try 1200Mhz.
//Tommy
Holy thread necro.
Extremely nice sticks. My LV Platinum 1150 only did 1180 5-5-5 realistically, and barely did 1000+ 5-4-4-10.
thx! i know and i am sorry! i didn't want to open a new topic but i also want to share these results. :buddies:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
does anybody think that this sticks will run good with foxconn a79a-s and phenom II x6?
no:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spcial
thats ddr2
you need ddr3
A79A-S is AM2+Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
that's right. the dfi doesn't support phenom II x6 cpus so i have to rip-off the a79a-s form my fathers pc! :up:
does the ocz lv blade scale with 5-4-4-x? i haven't try it, only 4-4-4-x or 4-4-3-x!?
It did for me. You might be able to pull off 1066 5-4-4 :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spcial
i will try 5-4-4 these days. here is my cl3 result:
375 MHz | 3-3-3-5 11 2t | 1.80v | Screen
http://www.abload.de/thumb/375cubcd.png
You have a really good kit ;D
yeah they run very well. i have just tried 5-4-4 and i could hit 530mhz but this was not 32m stable. :shrug:
I'm still sorry that I sold mine (rated 1200). Your kit seems similar to mine and it was one of the best I've seen - 1320+ MHz 5-5-5-15 benchable on AMD system.
I was able to pull ~1060 4-4-4-12 if I remember correctly.