The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

Nah, 8x multi...I just got up, and am a bit sick, sry.


Auto seems to work fine, but the whoel thing of not knowing if it would change something as I clocked...well...that's not OK by me, so I just set the standard auto timings manually. Then you are not left with a guessing game as to what is causing instability...for me, I've not maxed out my ram yet, I'm FSB limited by the cpus i've got now(2x B3 quad, 2x E6600, 1x G0 Quad). QX9650 is next to go in this board...just gotta fully understand the board before I start with another cpu...and I've had my board since about 3 days after this thread started!

A bit off topic but what intel qx9xxx is going to be around the 300$ mark ?

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Originally Posted by leoftw

A bit off topic but what intel qx9xxx is going to be around the 300$ mark ?

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none qx will be around 300 dollar mark , Q9450 will be, though it's multi is at 8x.
I really think the Q6600 will stay at it's current price level due to the 9 multi just like the E6600...when they released the 1333FSB CPU's. And on the Q6600 3ghz is so easy to do ( mostly on stock voltage ), so you get the speed of a stock QX6850 for free...

I'm having some problems with overclocking on this board (SE, BIOS 0907)...
I have a Q6600 G0 which I had no problems with getting to 3,8GHz @ 1,48ish volt on Asus P5k Premium. On this board however it wont even boot at that volt (or anything up to 1,5V) . I'm using the Anandtech setup from the first page. Any tips?

@ Heanwi

I had a similar experience. You could try the following settings

vcore 1.4750
CPU PLL 1.70
FSBT 1.51
NB 1.53
SB PLL 1.6
SB 1.10
vdimm 2.28

Im running stable with these settings. The CPU PLL/FSBT does the trick :up:

Thanks, I'll try it right away! :)

Btw, CPU PLL below 2V is "safe" right?

what Volts are actually needed for 425x9 on a Q6600, with transaction booster enabled and clock twister strong?
NBv:
FSBv:
CPU PLL:
SBv:
CPU/NB GTL:
SB1.5v:

I just need a direction , I think I am holding to much the volts down, comming from a P35 might explain:X

I think I found whats holding me back... My ram.
I used to (on P5k premium) run (2x1024) 2gb Ocz flexxlc 9200 @ 1200MHz. Now its almost a struggle to boot at 1000MHz with 4gb (4x1024). Any ideas? :S

Okay guys this is how far I’ve gotten so far and I’m very happy with it for now, OCCT and Prime stable I just need to know if you thing I can improve on, on any of the setting. I have been using AMD setup for a long time so I'm still a noob with Intel so any suggestion you can offer would be appriciated big time.

BIOS 0907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: AUTO
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency DDR2: AUTO
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# ActivateTime: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay: AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D): AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister: AUTO
Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: 0

CPU Voltage: 1.45v bios
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56v
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35v
DRAM Voltage: 2.14v
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference: AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference: AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage: AUTO

NB LED Selection: NB Volt
SB LED Selection: SB Volt
CPU LED Selection: CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED: ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...ICS/GPU-Z1.jpg


SPECS:
MB: ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA V1.03
CPU: INTEL C2D E6850 G0
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DOMINATOR 8500C5D 4x1GB
GPU: ATI Radeon X2900XT 1GB
HD-1: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB
HD-2: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3300622AS 300GB
HD-3: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3750640AS 750GB
DVD: PLEXTOR PX-716AL Dual Layer
SOUND CARD: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic
PSU: PC Power and Cooling ULTRA-QUIET, SILENCER 750
CASE: SilverStone Black Temjin SST-TJ03 Aluminum Case
FAN CONTROL: Sunbeam 4 Channel Rheobus
COOLING: Watercooled CPU and GPU, Active Aircooling NB and SB

Thanks:up:

This post will pop my cherry. I have been reading the forums for a few months now. Recently purchased a Maxmus Formula which was told it was the SE but was not when I got it. I can not decided to either send it back and get a different MB or keep it. Specs Below:

Black TT Armor+ (I love it)
Intel Q6600 G0
TR Ultra-120 Extreme (lapped)
2gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500
MSI 8800GTS (G92) 512 OC740
2X 74gb Raptor
1tb Seagate 7200.11
Corsair HX620
24" Dell 2407WFP (A04)

I posted here to get help from you Formula SE guys.

Does increasing PCI-E , yields a better overall overclock? Or it just give u abit of a boost to your GFX speeds.

Anything much past 115 and your RAID will go nuts and not boot. I run mine at 110 and there was MAYBE a 300 point difference in my 3dm06 scores.

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Originally Posted by adrenaline7879

This post will pop my cherry. I have been reading the forums for a few months now. Recently purchased a Maxmus Formula which was told it was the SE but was not when I got it. I can not decided to either send it back and get a different MB or keep it. Specs Below:

Black TT Armor+ (I love it)
Intel Q6600 G0
TR Ultra-120 Extreme (lapped)
2gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500
MSI 8800GTS (G92) 512 OC740
2X 74gb Raptor
1tb Seagate 7200.11
Corsair HX620
24" Dell 2407WFP (A04)

I posted here to get help from you Formula SE guys.

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The only difference between the SE and non SE is the heatsink on the NB.

The SE has a fusion water block and the non SE doesn't.

So you are saying there is no difference on how the board overclocks when not using water. If that is right then I will keep the board and have some fun with it. Ty for the help.

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Originally Posted by adrenaline7879

So you are saying there is no difference on how the board overclocks when not using water. If that is right then I will keep the board and have some fun with it. Ty for the help.

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The boards are identical except for the NB cooling.

I have a 120mm fan pointed at my non-SE NB to keep it cool.

Oke here I go again. I tried OCCT version: OCCTPT1.2.0.b06, and I was wondering If u do Custom test. And u are able to move the Slider, so I did it, to Very large Data 1024MB , so RAM test, however I noticed OCCT bar shows the CPU is only 75% load here, but If I look @ the Taskmananger , I see OCCT.exe 99% @ cpu use.

I hope this is not the prob I had with P95 with only multiplier 9x when I pass 1.4000vcore @ bios, prime.exe wont load 99% @ taskmanager, but this time it is the reversed result LOL, taskmanager shows 99% but OCCT shows during RAM test 75% on the bar oO.

New OCCT beta out, b07.

Oke this is only with the b06, with the non beta It will goes up to 99,81% or so, but with b06 here, it will start @ 146% or sumtin then it dropping to +/- 75%

Is the orignal 1.1.1.b good enough? Or this this version buggy? or shall I use b07

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Originally Posted by kup

New OCCT beta out, b07.

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Does this one have the slider as well? Can anyone confirm? I used it on another board and the slider was not present. Not sure if it was a bad install or what.

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Originally Posted by nordien

@ Heanwi

I had a similar experience. You could try the following settings

vcore 1.4750
CPU PLL 1.70
FSBT 1.51
NB 1.53
SB PLL 1.6
SB 1.10
vdimm 2.28

Im running stable with these settings. The CPU PLL/FSBT does the trick :up:

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I would be very carefull with your CPU PLL @ 1.70

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Originally Posted by iadstudio

Does this one have the slider as well? Can anyone confirm? I used it on another board and the slider was not present. Not sure if it was a bad install or what.

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No slider, just a drop down box to pick from CPU, MIX and RAM.

I have a question, with my q6600 why is it that with my fsbterm volt at 1.3 i can pass prime/occt longer than with a 1.4-1.5fsb term volt. I thought the higher to fsb volt the more headroom for FSB speed. In fact, anandtech's little review recommends 1.54fsbv and 1.61nbv.. when I set it around there I fail tests almost instantly. My temps are under 47C for NB and my cpu temps load around 56C.

450x7 with PC8500 5-5-5-12 t2 (Stap 400, ddr-1199), 4x1GB 2.28v(2.32real, spec'd for 2.25-2.35)
CPUv- 1.375v
CPU PLL- Auto
NB-1.55v
FSB termv-1.3v-1.5v
SB-1.05v

I have been trying for a week to find a stable setting, it seems pretty stable so far for general use and gaming, but I want to be able to pass 8 hour prime blend/smallfft, memtest, OCCT with no errors. Main question is what setting is needing a change and what exactly does fsb term voltage do and what should I set it at. Any other voltages look off? I have basically tried everything so far.

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Originally Posted by mc2k

what Volts are actually needed for 425x9 on a Q6600, with transaction booster enabled and clock twister strong?
NBv:
FSBv:
CPU PLL:
SBv:
CPU/NB GTL:
SB1.5v:


I just need a direction , I think I am holding to much the volts down, comming from a P35 might explain:X

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My 24/7 (p95 stable) at 9x425


NBv: 1.53
FSBv: 1.40 (it works fine at 1.3v too, don't ask me why).
CPU PLL: 1.50
SBv: 1.100
CPU/NB GTL: Auto/Auto
SB1.5v: Auto

PS: I'm on the 333 strap using the 5/6 divider. Hope this helps.

PPS: I'm running a 4-disc raid0 setup so that might explain why I need 1.100v for SB.

PPPS: I'm running a 2x1GB memory configuration.

Hi :)
I'm new here so hi to everyone :)))
After messing around with my new rig for a bit I managed to figure out occt stable bios settings:

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1199MHZ]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [18]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Write Recovery Time [Auto]
Read To Precharge Time [Auto]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.50v]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.30v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.5v]

1. The only thing that worries me is the NB temp, in bios it shows 61-63C with [1.61v] setting, isn't that a bit too high, my room temperature is around 21C, but it's winter now and in the summer it gets really hot and the temps may go drastically up. The problem is whenever I try to lower the voltage on the NB I cannot boot, 1.61v it's the lowest setting. Any ideas hot to change my settings to lower up the NB temp?

2. Ok and here's the tricky one :) I tried installing all versions of Pc probe, it installed with no problems but each time I try to run the application I get a blue screen and sys reboots??@#@@!! WHY?
Same thing happens with AI tweaker(I don't really use it cause I change the settings in BIOS)
Maybe there is a different application showing NB and SB temps? Or how to make the Pc probe work

I'm running Windows XP Pro polish version SP2c

thx for your help :)

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Originally Posted by Zucker2k

My 24/7 (p95 stable) at 9x425


NBv: 1.53
FSBv: 1.40 (it works fine at 1.3v too, don't ask me why).
CPU PLL: 1.50
SBv: 1.100
CPU/NB GTL: Auto/Auto
SB1.5v: Auto

PS: I'm on the 333 strap using the 5/6 divider. Hope this helps.

PPS: I'm running a 4-disc raid0 setup so that might explain why I need 1.100v for SB.

PPPS: I'm running a 2x1GB memory configuration.

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Thnx zucker for sharing, I found my OC prob already man, I was like wtf, I cant get my sticks stable while with my P5K deluxe even with much higher speed with very low volts, but it was my CPU..... I did 8x425 instead and ques what I could do now 2.00v...... before it failed even 2.20v , odd thing is I did first test the CPU, with prime95 small FFTS 12 hours stable @ 1.400vcore bios set. However I need more vcore to pass OCCT it seems:X

Is it normal that I loose 2 cores when PLL is under 1.6 (1.712 actual)?
Now I'm running at 9x400 at 1.384V (CPUZ), using Thermalright - 66Celsius@Prime Small-FFT.

My NB voltage is 1.49 (1.520 actual), and it gives me 58 Celsius temps. Is that normal?

Yes I heared this is the cause of to high PLL, and eventually it can kill your chip, I would lower them asap!

It appears when the PLL is to LOW. I need to set it higher to have 4 cores.

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Originally Posted by tommithy

The boards are identical except for the NB cooling.

I have a 120mm fan pointed at my non-SE NB to keep it cool.

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did you mount it somehow to the heat sink?

Any ideas of what to change next? CPUpll? Can't seem to get past the 2 hour mark on the blend test. Then another core failed at 10 hours. Think it is undervoltage issue or a heat issue? From my experience most undervoltage causes BSOD and restart. Also, it always seems to fail at the end of the tests (IE end of TEST9 to the next test 1).

CPUv-1.375v (1.352v cpuz) (never above 56C)
CPUpll-Auto
NB-1.59v(never above 48C)
FSBtv-1.3v
SB-1.05v
ddr-2.28v

Set CPU PLL to 1.5v (should be 1.6v+/- real voltage) and see how it does.... also bring your NB voltage to 1.53/1.55v..... crank down your ram voltage, thats running 2.28v in BIOS (in reality its 2.38v+/- maximus overvolts DRAM) I personally use 2.12v for DRAM....

Also set CPU GTL - .63x and NB GTL - .67x and see how it does.

EDIT: What RAM timings and speeds are you trying to get, and what sticks are you using? I can better help you from there.

Ram is the Micron D9, Muskin 4x1GB PC8500 (2.2-2.35v). I set at 2.28 because on my board it is 2.32v (everest) and it seems to be more stable than if I set it lower. However that stability might just be because of other settings. I have it set on 400strap, 450fsb, ddr2-1199. Timings are now set to 5-5-5-12 t2 (subtimings auto), I used to have the anandtech subtimings exactly entered in, but this seems to have more stability.

I already had the x63 and x67 set manually. However, I manually set my PLL to 1.58 in bios and running OCCT set to RAM. Just got back from class and it is still running (2.5hours). What test would be more of an indicator for stability? OCCT-set to ram or Prime 95 Blend? You think I should lower the PLL to 1.5 and see how it does?

Also the pattern I have seen so far, in terms of failure in p95, is that it never fails on the lower fft packets but fails on fft 640k, 768k, 1024k; higher numbers like this.

3.83Ghz Stable with 4GB (1GBx4) of RAM

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Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1033
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.500v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
DRAM Voltage : 2.18v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.6v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

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http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=294488

CPU-Z Valid

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...IG-Chipset.png

I'm at 3.0 stable and thinking to move up to 3.2 b4 hitting 3.4 and 3.6Ghz. You guys have any guide for 3.2Ghz stable with 4x1GB RAM? I really appreciate it.
P/S: I'm still using 0602 and it appears to be stable for me, should I upgrade to 0907?

I have a Problem seeing temps using Everest Ultimate. Everest only see's the the W83791 sensor chip. Any reason why it is having a problem. Speedfan see's all sensor chips and see's all temps. But once in a while it gets screwed up and see's only 1 sensor chip. Is it possible I do not have the rght drivers or is it Vista Ultimate the problem???

Using probe see's the temps but it also gets screwed up once in a while!:)

PS It is not only the temps from the other chips it does not see, it does not see the voltages/fans/etc.


******Found out why! I was using an older version of everest.. The 4.20 version does the trick!

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Originally Posted by youraa

did you mount it somehow to the heat sink?

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It's in the side window of my case.

Once in while, the indications just get removed. This happens in speedfan, everest, probe, etc..

Does anyone have this problem?

Do i have to update the drivers for the mobo for these sensor chips?

I am using the air cooled version, and for stable system I really have to set NB to 1.55V. That means 58 Celsius for NB!!! Do you think is that safe? Is it some kind of s**ty thermal compound from factory, or its just the case of X38?

Hi all.

What kind of overclock should i expect to achieve with my system. Stated in my signiture. I am running at 3ghz stock volts at the moment and my temps are 25 idle and 41 on full load. I would like to get a better oc but not too sure what my cooling can handle.

c.

I have a question about the Overheat protection on this board.

Once I updated to 0907 there is no longer an option for the CPU overheat protection in the BIOS under hardware monitoring. Now it just says "COP EX" in black and the overheat protection for the chipsets. Is there soemthing else in the bios that needs to be set to enable cpu overheat protection? or am i loosing my mind? This used to be an option, right?

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I am using the air cooled version, and for stable system I really have to set NB to 1.55V. That means 58 Celsius for NB!!! Do you think is that safe? Is it some kind of s**ty thermal compound from factory, or its just the case of X38?

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I'm 1.61v on NB with 61-63C :) and yeah it gets hot :)

quote: "IMO that is a high temp on the NB, but I don't think that it's going to cause any damage. As long as you're stable, it's all good man
CHeck out the data sheet on the X38:
Link
All of the info you need is in the document entitled Thermal and Mechanical Design Guidelines.....the Tc Max for the X38 is 92C, and you will experience instability with OCing well before this temp I would think....."

Sorry, been offline a lot to test the board and I can only conclude it is really wonky.

The only way I can get it stable is by resetting to the default setting and then by choosing SuperMem Profile (Profile 1). This sets the Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500 timings to 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v (Everest reads 1.97v) and everything else is mostly auto.

If I should tweak any settings, it becomes unstable and will fail MemTest+ 1.7. The reason I started tweaking is because while the system is stable it will once in a while fail to boot and get stuck at "det ram."

But after tweaking the system will become unstable and even reverting it back to the setting above will not make it work again. The only way I can get it working is to repeat the process above -- resetting to default and picking SuperMem.

I am really confused. All help is appreciated. Thanks.

PS: I have tested the ram on a different machine and it is working perfectly.

I repeated the test a few times again.

Everything stable when i choose SuperMem but the minute I switch to Manual (I have to cause if not I won't be able to set DRAM voltage) and set the DRAM voltage to 2.1 (the board will over volt to 2.2) it fails the MemTest+ 1.7.

The test it will fail on is Test 6.

If I now pass the OCCT "RAM" Test for 4.5 hours but fail the "Mixed" test in exactly 2 hours, what setting should I change? I mean my when I tested small fft packets in p95 it was stable (8 hours), so I have my CPU and RAM stablized. Maybe the fsbtv too low? I remember setting it higher started causing me problems.

Q6600 (450x7)
4x1GB Muskin PC8500 (DDR2-1199, 5-5-5-12)
400strap

CPUv-1.375v(bios) 1.352(everest) (57C Load)
CPUPLL-1.58v(bios) 1.66(hardware monitor) (This too high? It seems to have allowed me to pass the ram test/p95 blend test for 4+hours now)
NB-1.59(bios) 1.58v(everest) (47C Load)
FSBtv-1.3v(bios) 1.31v(everest) <<<< Bump up maybe?
SBv- 1.05(bios) 1.06v(everest)
DDR2v-2.28(bios) 2.32v(everest) (Warrantied up to 2.35v)

Any ideas?

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ampage_Formula

Asus Rampage bios, who thinks it'd flash to the Maximus, seeing as aside from a different binned North Bridge, it's the same board? Same PCB, same everything?

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Originally Posted by kup

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ampage_Formula

Asus Rampage bios, who thinks it'd flash to the Maximus, seeing as aside from a different binned North Bridge, it's the same board? Same PCB, same everything?

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I was wondering the same.

Also Kup, Can you add my Overclock to the Main Post?

As for the CPU PLL discussion. In my case my cpu needs a high PLL to be stable.

I'm running 465 x 8 with 1.52v vcore (lousy G0) . However it needs a quite high PLL 1.66v set in bios, about 1.78v actual. Anything lower and P95 fails withing 10'.

At least the Anandtch's claim that over "1.67v PLL doesn't gains anything" is bs, in my case. :p:

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Originally Posted by Warboy

I was wondering the same.

Also Kup, Can you add my Overclock to the Main Post?

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Link me to the settings list and I'll add it.

The Rampage bios is newer than the latest Maximus bios. The Rampage was end of December, the Maximus was mid December. I'm very curious about this, in theory, if Asus do it right, it should pick up after the 0907 Maximus bios for fixes and performance etc...

If someone can show me how to get around the flash protection between models I'll flash it now just to see...

I'm @ 3.2Ghz prime stable overnight (>10 hours) and I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I notice my CPU temp at full load is 74, is that too high at 3.2?
Also CoreTemp gives me 83 for all 4 cores while Speedfan gives me about 63-65 both at full load. Which one appears to be more reliable? Any versions that give me the accurate temp?

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Originally Posted by kup

Link me to the settings list and I'll add it.

The Rampage bios is newer than the latest Maximus bios. The Rampage was end of December, the Maximus was mid December. I'm very curious about this, in theory, if Asus do it right, it should pick up after the 0907 Maximus bios for fixes and performance etc...

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Originally Posted by kup

If someone can show me how to get around the flash protection between models I'll flash it now just to see...

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=634


Linked

Also In theory, ASUS Update might bypass these. But May Corrupt the bios and/or your windows.

I don't know a easy way to bypass the model checks.

But I did notice yesterday when i was playing with my P5K Deluxe with the newest bios, IT HAD ALL THE SAME FEATURES AS THE MAXIMUS. Just less voltage settings. I was really upset.

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Originally Posted by iTravis

I'm @ 3.2Ghz prime stable overnight (>10 hours) and I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I notice my CPU temp at full load is 74, is that too high at 3.2?
Also CoreTemp gives me 83 for all 4 cores while Speedfan gives me about 63-65 both at full load. Which one appears to be more reliable? Any versions that give me the accurate temp?

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I would stop right there and reevaluate :D

What multiplier are you using?? I'm getting 65c load on a 3.6ghz setting (9x400)

Are you on air?

83c is too hot for normal everyday use, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by ReZ_

I would stop right there and reevaluate :D

What multiplier are you using?? I'm getting 65c load on a 3.6ghz setting (9x400)

Are you on air?

83c is too hot for normal everyday use, in my opinion.

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I'm using 8x400 and yeh, I'm on air cooling. My concern is whether CoreTemp or SpeedFan give me accurate temps so I can decide to move on from there. Btw, you get 65 load for all 4 cores at full load? That's impressive, maybe cuz you have WC. :clap:

Does anyone know iof the bios setting for ACPI 2.0 should be enabled or disabled?

anyone getting a quad to 4.0 on this mobo
im at 3.9 stable with 1.55volts and a load temp below -22c and lower. :)

Hey guys, I got a question...

What is the differents if your getting 3.6Ghz using 8x450FSB or 9x400FSB?

Any advantages of having a higher FSB or multipler?

I have see a lot of guys using either setup, or is it just personal preferance?

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I'm 1.61v on NB with 61-63C :) and yeah it gets hot :)

quote: "IMO that is a high temp on the NB, but I don't think that it's going to cause any damage. As long as you're stable, it's all good man
CHeck out the data sheet on the X38:
Link
All of the info you need is in the document entitled Thermal and Mechanical Design Guidelines.....the Tc Max for the X38 is 92C, and you will experience instability with OCing well before this temp I would think....."

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I installed an Antec Spot fan in my case. It is blowing directly on the NB heatsink and the temeperatures dropped by 10C :)))now I have 42-44C SB 47-51C NB :)))))) will try to go higher on the NB Voltage to reach 4.0GHz (which is most propably hopeless on my VID :)) but will give it a go :)

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Hey guys, I got a question...

What is the differents if your getting 3.6Ghz using 8x450FSB or 9x400FSB?

Any advantages of having a higher FSB or multipler?

I have see a lot of guys using either setup, or is it just personal preferance?

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Higher fsb is better :) do some benchmarks, you'll see I had quite a diference

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Originally Posted by iTravis

I'm using 8x400 and yeh, I'm on air cooling. My concern is whether CoreTemp or SpeedFan give me accurate temps so I can decide to move on from there. Btw, you get 65 load for all 4 cores at full load? That's impressive, maybe cuz you have WC. :clap:

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I have 55-57C on full load 450x8 3600 on air :)

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I have 55-57C on full load 450x8 3600 on air :)

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How the hell could you do that? :eek: I might have to download the latest version of CoreTemp and see.

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Originally Posted by iTravis

How the hell could you do that? :eek: I might have to download the latest version of CoreTemp and see.

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pictures of my rig above, my room temp around 20-21

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I have 55-57C on full load 450x8 3600 on air :)

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Either your rig sounds like a wind tunnel or your temps are not displayed correctly.
At 1.50v I highly doubt your load temps are 55c

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Either your rig sounds like a wind tunnel or your temps are not displayed correctly.
At 1.50v I highly doubt your load temps are 55c

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Well when I'm doing stress test I have th vents set for medium or high and it's a bit loud then (I have a good airflow in the case), but usually I have them set to minimum for gaming and normal usage and it's quiet, i also wrote the range
55-57C, when I get home I wil do some screenshots of the temps, note that the room temp is low, maybe sometimes it's 19C cause I have the window open :)) bad habbit of smoking :) i use latest coretemp. I use Zalman ZM-STG1 paste.

Thats not bad then for Air, hell its pretty darn good.

It`s amazing.
I have Temps about 54-56&#176;(load) with 450x8=3,6 @1,312V, nearly the same and I only have dualcore cpu and that low Vcore.
And I have a(n?) good airflow in my system with my 8x120mm and not a bad cpu cooler.

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It`s amazing.
I have Temps about 54-56&#176;(load) with 450x8=3,6 @1,312V, nearly the same and I only have dualcore cpu and that low Vcore.
And I have a(n?) good airflow in my system with my 8x120mm and not a bad cpu cooler.

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1.50v is bios setting, cpuz is 1.480, as I was saying I will do some more tests at home, now I'm at work :)

p.s. It may have been the low temperatures outside when I was doing the testing, window was open, maybe my room temperature was lower.

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1.50v is bios setting actual is 1.480, as I was saying I will do some more tests at home, now I'm at work :)

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I thought that Maximus always overvolt.I have Vcore to 1.41 in bios and its 1.392 in cpuz.So i guess cpu overvolting is not common.

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Originally Posted by ChaosAD

I thought that Maximus always overvolt.I have Vcore to 1.41 in bios and its 1.392 in cpuz.So i guess cpu overvolting is not common.

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enable "LOAD CALIBRATION";)

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Originally Posted by ChaosAD

I thought that Maximus always overvolt.I have Vcore to 1.41 in bios and its 1.392 in cpuz.So i guess cpu overvolting is not common.

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its the vdrop, that is very commen, but this board doesnt suffer from vdroop, thus idle/load , no differences, on some voltages it actually overvolts!

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Originally Posted by Scooby

Hey guys, I got a question...

What is the differents if your getting 3.6Ghz using 8x450FSB or 9x400FSB?

Any advantages of having a higher FSB or multipler?

I have see a lot of guys using either setup, or is it just personal preferance?

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Higher FSB is best, but I opted to go the 9x route. Temps are more reasonable, and running the stock multi for your cpu is a good idea... It seems more stable for me on the 0907 bios too.

Imagine if you want to reach 4ghz, you will need to go 9x444, as 8x500 is pretty much impossible on this board...

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Originally Posted by newls1

enable "LOAD CALIBRATION";)

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Take a look at Anantech's article regarding OC'ing the 9650. They don't recommend this at all (nor circumventing the vdroop).

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Originally Posted by Creek Tha Gray

anyone getting a quad to 4.0 on this mobo
im at 3.9 stable with 1.55volts and a load temp below -22c and lower. :)

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I am, but it's a 9650. I upped the volts a little on the CPU PLL and it helped.

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Originally Posted by iTravis

I'm using 8x400 and yeh, I'm on air cooling. My concern is whether CoreTemp or SpeedFan give me accurate temps so I can decide to move on from there. Btw, you get 65 load for all 4 cores at full load? That's impressive, maybe cuz you have WC. :clap:

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coretemp and everest give exactly the same temps for me... As of the latest bios, i do not trust the "cpu" temperature, it's wonky. :shrug: Trust the core temps.

I trust everest. I don't even use speedfan. I tried it and i think it sucks more than pcprobe! I still use coretemp to monitor my cores on the fly (everest takes a few seconds to load, coretemp is instant)

65c is ok, not all that great... I have the Gigabyte Galaxy WC kit pre-modded in my case... it's not all that great a system. 3/8" tubing... somewhat noisy pump, but the small rad is the weakest link IMHO. I reached 3.84ghz with it, stable, but cores were close to 80c... so i backed off to 3.6ghz. I don't feel the slightest difference... it only shows in benchmarks.

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enable "LOAD CALIBRATION";)

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You mean bios option named loadline calibration right?Many have this option enabled and others have it disabled...So whats the optimum set for this?What is the real difference?Does it affect stability?

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Originally Posted by iadstudio

I have a question about the Overheat protection on this board.

Once I updated to 0907 there is no longer an option for the CPU overheat protection in the BIOS under hardware monitoring. Now it just says "COP EX" in black and the overheat protection for the chipsets. Is there soemthing else in the bios that needs to be set to enable cpu overheat protection? or am i loosing my mind? This used to be an option, right?

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Anyone?

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Originally Posted by youraa

1.50v is bios setting, cpuz is 1.480, as I was saying I will do some more tests at home, now I'm at work :)

p.s. It may have been the low temperatures outside when I was doing the testing, window was open, maybe my room temperature was lower.

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sorry guys you were right :) it was much colder than it is now 19.2C in my room, I think the temps will go over 60C but don't have time to run the test longer :( gotta work.

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Anyone?

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I have the same
COP EX black'd out

And I do recall the CPU overheat protection option in 802

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Originally Posted by ReZ_

coretemp and everest give exactly the same temps for me... As of the latest bios, i do not trust the "cpu" temperature, it's wonky. :shrug: Trust the core temps.

I trust everest. I don't even use speedfan. I tried it and i think it sucks more than pcprobe! I still use coretemp to monitor my cores on the fly (everest takes a few seconds to load, coretemp is instant)

65c is ok, not all that great... I have the Gigabyte Galaxy WC kit pre-modded in my case... it's not all that great a system. 3/8" tubing... somewhat noisy pump, but the small rad is the weakest link IMHO. I reached 3.84ghz with it, stable, but cores were close to 80c... so i backed off to 3.6ghz. I don't feel the slightest difference... it only shows in benchmarks.

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Maybe I just rely on CoreTemp from now on since SpeedFan gives me about 15-20 degrees difference in temps. :( Btw, I'm still at 3.2Ghz rock solid stable but I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I might as well consider watercooling if I can't reach 3.6Ghz, don't really know if it's worth it.
And you're right, there might not be a difference in performance but we as OCers wanna reach the highest clock as possible right? :)
P/S: CoreTemp gives me 50 at load @3.2 Ghz and over 80 at full load? Is that normal?

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Originally Posted by youraa

pictures of my rig above, my room temp around 20-21

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That's impressive for 3.6Ghz at such low temp like that. I'm in CA and the weather doesn't get that cold. I would say the lowest is around 40-45 at night but oh well...as long as I can't reach 3.6Ghz stable, that's all I care. :D

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Maybe I just rely on CoreTemp from now on since SpeedFan gives me about 15-20 degrees difference in temps. :( Btw, I'm still at 3.2Ghz rock solid stable but I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I might as well consider watercooling if I can't reach 3.6Ghz, don't really know if it's worth it.
And you're right, there might not be a difference in performance but we as OCers wanna reach the highest clock as possible right? :)
P/S: CoreTemp gives me 50 at load @3.2 Ghz and over 80 at full load? Is that normal?

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The performance gain from 3.4GHz to 3.6GHz is very little unless your going to overclock the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of your ram, Core Temp is best to monitor temps.
3.4 should be easy to hit if you have 3.2 stable. I would recomend the 8 multi for bandwidth but thats up to you.

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Originally Posted by iTravis

P/S: CoreTemp gives me 50 at load @3.2 Ghz and over 80 at full load? Is that normal?

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I've said it before, that's the max i would go : 80c on hottest core.

3.2ghz = 80c? what multi is that again? 8x400?
maybe try 9x355, recheck the temps.
maybe try 7x450!

my advice is to not go above 80c. Hey, maybe it can run at 90c for 365days, do you really want to find out??

maybe reseat the cpu fan? If i had to start over, i would probably save a few $ and go with an excellent air setup.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

The performance gain from 3.4GHz to 3.6GHz is very little unless your going to overclock the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of your ram, Core Temp is best to monitor temps.
3.4 should be easy to hit if you have 3.2 stable. I would recomend the 8 multi for bandwidth but thats up to you.

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Thanks Grnfinger, good to hear that. (The :banana: makes me LMAO) :lol:
I'm using 8 multi and it's been stable for me so 425x8 for 2nite. I used the previous version of CoreTemp so it might give me the wrong temp. I'll go ahead and download the latest to run along with a new benchie 2nite as soon as I'll get out of work.

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Originally Posted by ReZ_

I've said it before, that's the max i would go : 80c on hottest core.

3.2ghz = 80c? what multi is that again? 8x400?
maybe try 9x355, recheck the temps.
maybe try 7x450!

my advice is to not go above 80c. Hey, maybe it can run at 90c for 365days, do you really want to find out??

maybe reseat the cpu fan? If i had to start over, i would probably save a few $ and go with an excellent air setup.

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Yeh I use 8x400 for 3.2Ghz. I'll check it out if it goes above 80 when I hit 3.4Ghz 2nite and decide from there.
I don't know what else to get for my cooling since I think the Ultra 120 Xtreme is consider one of the best for air cooling. :(

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I don't know what else to get for my cooling since I think the Ultra 120 Xtreme is consider one of the best for air cooling. :(

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did you reseat it? Those temps are unbelievable with that cooler... :shrug:

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did you reseat it? Those temps are unbelievable with that cooler... :shrug:

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I'm testing with 425x8 and 378x9 at 1.41V and both appear to be unstable and fail Prime95 after just couple mins. :( My core temps at idle are 55-55-47-48 and full load at 93-93-86-86. Don't really know what went wrong and I don't think re-seat could help but I'll do that today and see what happens. :(

What is the best bios for Maximus Formula + Qx9650 KIT? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by M3kk

What is the best bios for Maximus Formula + Qx9650 KIT? Thanks.

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I don't have the CPU, but from an official support point of view, the latest 0907 bios would be best, IMO.

Yes, only latest 0907 has workin 0.0 multipliers.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I have the same
COP EX black'd out

And I do recall the CPU overheat protection option in 802

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That actually really sucks. Since everything else is air cooled, I don't think the machine would shut down until the water does it's damage.

GD ASUS, wtf are you guys doing over there!!!!!

to make things worse, I'm on Vista 64 so flashing back to an older bios would be a real PITA!

Anyone with insight into this problem PLEASE ADVISE! This drastically decreases the value of this board for h2o. To replace that feature with hardware it would cost quite a few $.

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Originally Posted by iadstudio

That actually really sucks. Since everything else is air cooled, I don't think the machine would shut down until the water does it's damage.

GD ASUS, wtf are you guys doing over there!!!!!

to make things worse, I'm on Vista 64 so flashing back to an older bios would be a real PITA!

Anyone with insight into this problem PLEASE ADVISE! This drastically decreases the value of this board for h2o. To replace that feature with hardware it would cost quite a few $.

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Are you saying the machine should be able to detect a water spill and shut off?

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My core temps at idle are 55-55-47-48 and full load at 93-93-86-86.

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jesus......

i hope the reseat will work.... did you try the cpu on a different board?
maybe RMA the cpu, those temps are..... not normal :ROTF:

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jesus......

i hope the reseat will work.... did you try the cpu on a different board?
maybe RMA the cpu, those temps are..... not normal :ROTF:

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Perhaps b4 you get the guy all worked up thinking his cpu is a dud why not get some info
room ambiant air
case ambiant air
what brand of thermal paste
how was paste applied
current bios settings

I would personally lean towards it being an improper install

Are really none of u dont got this P95 bug? if u set vcore higher then 1.4000v @ bios with multiplier 9x, prime.exe wont load 99&#37;. but with 8x multiplier it wont. Just wait 1 min before it pass test1 then u see the is dropping to 89% instead of 99%.....I really hate it, so I am limited by this, otherwise I could test 4.0ghz.... for 24/7 on air....

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Perhaps b4 you get the guy all worked up thinking his cpu is a dud why not get some info
room ambiant air
case ambiant air
what brand of thermal paste
how was paste applied
current bios settings

I would personally lean towards it being an improper install

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I don't think it's the CPU since I get pretty good temp at idle and load (40 idle at 3.4Ghz ain't that good?). And I think Grnfinger might be right about the way I install the heatsink and such. Anyway, FYI:
- Room temp: 45 F
- Case temp: 37 F
- I use the ZM-STG1 that came with when I bought my Zalman 9700.
- I just applied a thin layer and spread on over the CPU surface.
- My BIOS settings are based on yours :D

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.41
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

P/S: I might consider water cooling since this gives me enough headache. You guys have any recommendations for a good, budget WC kit?

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Originally Posted by iTravis

I don't think it's the CPU since I get pretty good temp at idle and load (40 idle at 3.4Ghz ain't that good?). And I think Grnfinger might be right about the way I install the heatsink and such. Anyway, FYI:
- Room temp: 45 F
- Case temp: 37 F
- I use the ZM-STG1 that came with when I bought my Zalman 9700.
- I just applied a thin layer and spread on over the CPU surface.
- My BIOS settings are based on yours :D

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.41
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

P/S: I might consider water cooling since this gives me enough headache. You guys have any recommendations for a good, budget WC kit?

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Not sure on the budget part, but I can help you with WaterCooling:) PM if interested.

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Are you saying the machine should be able to detect a water spill and shut off?

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No, im's saying overheat protection for the cpu is an important function. It would be nice if I could get it back.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

Perhaps b4 you get the guy all worked up thinking his cpu is a dud why not get some info
room ambiant air
case ambiant air
what brand of thermal paste
how was paste applied
current bios settings

I would personally lean towards it being an improper install

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come on.... 83c at 3.2ghz....:poke:

brand of thermal paste??? :rofl: that's ridiculous.

improper install? that's what i'm discussing : RESEAT :yawn2:

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come on.... 83c at 3.2ghz....:poke:

brand of thermal paste??? :rofl: that's ridiculous.

improper install? that's what i'm discussing : RESEAT :yawn2:

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With this temps, he didn`t use any thermal paste
Is their a cooler at the cpu? :rolleyes:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...39001408VC.jpg

I d like to share this .. running EK WB with the Alphacool "Kreiselpumpe "
ordinary WC setup -great CPU VID 1.21 :)
1.408 under load VDROOP is there , though, no voltmodding has been done

;)

Just got this mb the other day, wish I had the se water cooled mb.Trying to get the oc that other people get (e6600) when I have a good wc setup was getting crazy 1.65Vcore, pll 1.8v and nb 1.7-8 for 425fsbx9 with nb temps at 40C, good right? Wrong.

I now know it is all about cooling the nb. With a 100cfm 120mm fan over the nb, now running 475fsbx8, 1.5Vcore, nb 1.65V and pll at auto with 32C temps on nb with p95.

Now to see if I can get the same to work with the quad.

500fsb first with e6600 I think I will try.