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Ok, it's going up when I increase the voltage. It just stuck at 1.36 twice in a row. Why doesn't it match what I input?
what is it currently at?
March 11th is also what i've heard. I think it is a good upgrade but not from a 780i as the price for DDR3 and performance increase just arent worth it... just think... it may have higher bandwidth but still has slower timings.
I agree... a new 45nm quad may not be that overclockable on a 780i but on a 790i where the fsb is 1800 vs. 1333 it may be very easy to achieve 4.0+
March should be an interesting month. I do however think that it wouldnt be a wise choice for us middle classers to upgrade from 780i to 790i and am disgusted to see anyone burn money like that... DDR2 is still the best choice but the FSB increase is a nice upgrade.
http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/dsc00319.jpg
Edit: Is that caused by vdroop? I thought that only occurred during load.
well you can always keep raising the voltage until the factory installed smoke comes out and then it will perform really good :up:
do the vdroop pencil mod. that fixed mine.
lol
Well, a couple pages back someone stated
So I was using that as my safety net. Although I think 1.5 is red.Quote:
my q6600 ran at 3.6ghz @ 1.5v and 3.9ghz @ 1.56v
well the manufacturer will never know cause all you really need to reverse this mod is an eraser lol right?
no, it will not void the warranty because you can reverse it's effect by using an eraser.
that's half the reason your voltage is so far off. it should be A LOT closer to what you have it set at.
the actual mod is in this tread somewhere. probably on the first page or so. i will look.
ok so does everyone so far like their 780i boards?? Just wanted to get an overall feeling from everyone using them.
its ok i guess but i also have a 680i for my other comp. its kinda plane jane in the looks department though if you ask me. I like the way Asus boards look:up: .
the only reason i went with an Evga instead of an asus is kinda for a funny/crazy reason. A while back when all i had was my Evga 680i, i had taken it to work to blow it out with our air compressed shop air to get it nice and clean inside. well after blowing it out i had sat it on the trunk lid of my car while attempting to open the door. well i got the door open but my computer crashed to the ground from the top of the trunk lid straight to the concrete. Im talking about a freefall from like 4ft!!:eek: :eek:
i nearly cried and my boss just laughed at me. well from that point i was convinced that it would be nothing more than a really expensive paper weight.
well after picking it up i took it home and pulled it out of its smashed thermaltake armor Jr. case and set it up outside the case. As shocked as i was i powered it on and it posted no problem and booted into windows without a hitch. the only thing that i could see that was physically damadged was the the armor case. :D
and from that day on Evga Proved itself to me, and not to mention their great speedy service i have had with em in the past.
that exact same Evga 680i is still currently in use in my other rig and running strong without a hitch.
well i dont owe them but they have proven to be strong in departments i would prefer never to test again. After all how the hell did that board, 4 hard drives, 2 graphics cards, and cpu survive? Did i mention that i had a ginormous zalman 9700 attatched for cpu for cooling and it didnt even dislodge. If i was to guess what might happen in a situation like that i would think that a zalman 9700 would rip a hole in the motherboard where the cpu used to be. but nope, not even a scratch.
What kind of voltages are people giving for a 4.4ghz clock?
Is 1.375 for 4.05ghz or 1800fsb alright?
I have my memory set to unlinked and it runs 9:8 ratio. It's prime stable but will I be able to go higher like 2000fsb with unlinked memory?
Your really pushing it bro, Some chips cant do the 4.4 stuff, i finally got mine to 4.05GHz, and these E8400 do DEGRADE. Which means that when you push the chip too hard, you wont get your previous settings back. Thats why im leaving mine at 4.05GHz with 1780(QDR) at 9.0x multiplier with Ram at 800MHz with 4-4-4-12 2T. Really i couldnt ask for more. Everything is blazing fast. No point in trying for more.
I agree... I was just wondering if people are running that high 24/7. What do you mean 1780(QDR)? If you mean FSB that would make 4.05... that would make 4005mhz. Very close to 4.05 though. I set mine to 1800mhz... with 1.375 in bios. What voltage are you running?
So you must be running unlinked memory right? Mine is unliked and I have SLI enabled. I wonder if this is best performance. It's either that or link it and run looser timings.
i've run 4.2ghz on my maximus formula. it allows the use of a lower vcore than the 780i's do though. im selling my e8400.
Mine needs alot, but i havent tried to lower it because i havent had heat problems or anything. set the vcore to 1.425 in bios. On idle its 1.39. Underload its 1.37. Its fine, chip doesnt go above 55C so its doing great
Does the thermalright ultra extreme fit this mobo without issues?
What is the max FSB anyone has got on this board?
My max so far with the E8400 is 534 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=314798
An benchable is http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=313568
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5283030
Im looking to get some 1000mhz ram but cant decide on what to buy.
Currently ive tried Corsair XMS2 5-5-5-12 an it t5ops out at about 975
Im currently working on some OCZ 4-4-4-15 platnum but reguires more SPP voltage just for 900mhz than the XMS2.
Any suggestions for some 1066 an higher ram for this board?
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Im looking to get some 1000mhz ram but cant decide on what to buy.
Currently ive tried Corsair XMS2 5-5-5-12 an it t5ops out at about 975QUOTE]
Crucial DDR2-667, DDR2-800, or DDR2-1066...any of those will hit 1000 with 4-4-4-10 timings with ease.
Ive got this board ariving soon, could someone explain how to fix Vdroop with the pencil mod
I.e where and how 'application'
Also how successfull are the results after this Pencil mod?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=VDROP
Also can be found here http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=...1&key=𚱄
Same pic on both sites. But you can read feedback from both.
I have done it to the 680i an 780i an had no problems an works great.
There still running. One to my left an one to my right. The 680i actualy volts up just a tad under load an the 780i has just a slight drop. I assume the 680i has more graphite in it than my 780i. I did all 3 spots which I have read cons on doing the one closes to the ram slot. I belive the pencil mod has been around for awhile on other boards such as Asus a couple a years ago when this mod was introduced.
I read so much stuff it ends up spilling out my head lol. Guess thats why I have such a low post count is cause I always find my answer usualy.
You can always erase the marks if you feel it is causing a problem.
cool.. but how long have you had them running now? do you know of any cases where a board or cpu has died because of the mod?
got my 780 i yesterday. config in sig. i flashed bios right away to p03. when i could not install vista 64 (blue screens) i googled and found that i should install with only 1 2gb stick installed. which i did (G.Skill pc2 8000 PQ, which is on the compat list), and vista 64 installed ok. but it still blue screens whenever i try to run with 2 sticks. any speed, any vdimm, linked/unlinked, synced/non-synced, any dimm slots, dc or sc. i have tried with all at auto, and default, but with nb voltage set to 1.5v (as spec'd in first post) and vdimm set to 2.3v. it always blue screens at the splash screen. with only one stick, either stick, it runs great. both sticks pass the nvmem test, fast. medium and slow, both sticks pass memtest86. my hardware is fine, i just swapped it out of a dfi lp ut p35. what am i missing here? i really, really dont want to rma this board, i got my first d.o.a. board in 6 years with my last mb (my first lp ut p35) i am hoping this isnt 2 in a row. thanx.
it is now fixt. i installed the ms hotfix kb40105 and now it works fine. it would even bluescreen going into safe mode before. according to the hotfix notes, this fix is for some issue with allocating memory while gaming (?) whatev, it worked. thanx anyway.
Hi guys, Have a question for all of you-
Im clocking my RAM- its pretty much stock- but stock for me is prettty nutty i bought Patriot PC2-9600 Ram. Its rated at 2.3 volts @ timings of 5-5-5-12-34 (TRC)
This is what my question is about- What should i set my TRC as- when its set on auto it gets 31 automatically- is this good? It seems stable- Should i be lowering this at all? On older forums i see people saying it should be TRP+TRAS (5+12 in my case- 1st number and 4th number for above) But this might be dealing with 1T which i cant figure out because 34 would be double that.
Let me know Thanks
I run my OCZ reaper DDR2800 PC6400 2X2GB set at 4-4-4-15-2T with TRC set to 11. It's very stable and the 11 helps with memory bandwidth... I am going to try to run my at command rate 1T but will get memtest before I try that...
This guy gave me the idea of 11 for trc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApUiWgzUkGM
So what would one set the TRC at if you were running PC8500 1066mhz Crucial Balistix Tracers?
Mine is currently set @ 30 with no O/Cing of ram
question, is this a limit of the mobo or a limit of the cpu?
my 680i ran my q6600 @ 3.6 1.400v 24/7 orthos and occt stable. i've upgraded to a 780i and was hoping for a better oc. my goal is 1666QDR with 9x multi and 6:5 with 500mhz mem.
I put all the bios voltages for the mobo to the highest Green value, left the mem on auto and cpu at 1.475v (real vcore - did the pencil mod). I put the multi at 6x and occt passed. bumped the multi to 7x, passed, 8x, passed. Tried 9x and the mobo won't reboot (error A0). Did a hard reset, booted into windows, but occt failed after a few mins. Tried 1.500 and bumped all the mobo voltages to max, still didn't pass occt.
Is this a mobo limitation or a cpu limitation? I'm surprised the mobo would be stable at all other multis but 9x, and I can't imagine going from 3.6 @ 1.4 to 3.75 @ 1.5 is that big of a leap. I've read a lot of people having problems with the evga 780i. anyone have a suggestion?
UPDATE
hm...i might have an answer. 1800qdr with 8x multi and the mobo rebooted, using highest Green voltage values. Put the vcore at 1.450v. so guess that means my cpu is limited to 3.6ghz?
UPDATE
so this is weird. I'm guessing it's maybe a combo of mobo and cpu? I tried lowering it to 1750QDR and 8x multi and the system wouldn't reboot. This definately can't be the cpu since it's less than the 1800QDR that passed OCCT. Is this one of those "holes" in the FSB? It really seems to limit what combinations fsb and multi I can use?!
UPDATE
ok, just for grins and giggles, I left QDR at 1800 and put the multi to 9x and vcore to 1.600v and the thing not only booted, but i could run SPi 1M!!!!!! Man, this is awesome! I've never come close to running anywhere near this speed! I'm peeing my pants...I can't stop laughing!!!! now i just need this sucka stable! :)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7084/4050cm3.jpg
UPDATE
ok, so i can't get it stable, but I think it's fair to say that it's the mobo holding me back, not the cpu. so, question is, what to do about it? Again, I'd like to shoot for something faster than 3.6 since i'm sure the cpu is capable, but this stupid mobo doesn't seem to play nice. Any suggestions?
Yeah I dont think TRC of 11 is going to work out well in the long run, Ive done some crazy tight timings with my ballistix and they all end up failing within a couple of months, I want this to last a year at least lol.
anyways my ram is specd for DDR2-1200 @ 5-5-5-12. Which in itself is pretty impressive, Its TRC is rated for 34- i might try to put that to 25, but i have a feeling it wont be Prime blend stable.
Any ideas waht a good setting is- for this- 11 is way too low for prime stable im sure of it. Have you tested it on prime 95 hughy?
hey guys i need some advice - a few weeks ago i was thinking about doing the pencil mod because i couldnt get my qx9650 stable at 4ghz, but held back. anyway i finally got it stable at 4ghz without the mod, but it requires a voltage of 1.475 (bios) which comes out to 1.44v idle and 1.368v under load. i heard that 1.44v idle is high for one these 45nm cpus, so if you were me would you just do the mod or let it run at 1.44v?
^^ Depends, purely on temps- I see most people are running this chip at that for 4 GHZ. Anyone who says 1.3 obv dont have it Prime Stable for more than 2 hrs or have a 1/10000 Miracle Chip lol which does happen.
yeah sorry i forgot to mention, max temps are 76C only on the first two cores. i ran prime small ffts and it was stable for 33 hours. occt i ran only for 30 mins but it was stable. as for the 76C, i know its kinda high but which real world apps would actually push the temps up that high?
Hmm I dno.... Im watercooling my Chip with Dtek fusion and a PA 120.2 on it (only thing in that loop) So My temps are much less. 76 is pretty hot, IMO i wouldnt go over 70 on a chip i spent 1000 bucks on
But Im sure it can handle it, Im not positive on all the specs but you should be able to find the Thermal specs of this Chip on intels site.
alright im gonna do it tonight. just want to confirm though, i got an HB 2 pencil, is that right?
how do you check the temp of the NB? I'm running 475*8 @ 1.475v and my machine shuts off (loses power) after 20-25 mins into occt! my cpu temp never exceeds 55C on load, so i'm wondering if my NB is overheating?! Anything else I could check as to why my the whole machine just shuts off?
unfortunately as far as i can see the only way to check the nb temp is in bios
so can someone clarify, if you use opt for 3 way sli, there will know longer be any more room for any other pci cards ? thanks in advance.
i was just about the do the mod, and i noticed these pics point to two different resistors. this pic points to the one on the left:
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?i...1212121il9.png
and this points to the one on the left:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=16
which one is it?
MCP is northbridge temp
and i did the pencil mod according to the second picture in your post
EDIT: actually come to think of it the EVGA does have the nb temps in windows, its the striker2 that doesnt
im on a different pc at the moment but i think even in windows software like everest its under MCP if i remember correctly
someone correct me if im wrong
just did the mod and it seems to be working great. just a few questions. i set 1.3 in the bios and its being reported as 1.28 idle and load. it hasnt budged from that ever even during priming and occt. is that normal, because i noticed that for others it would increase from idle voltage when under load. is that more desirable?
edit: never mind, i take back what i said above. i just set it to 1.3625 in bios at 4ghz and idle voltage was 1.344. now that m running occt its at 1.352
managed to get 4x 1066 1GB EPP modules. so 4GB running 1066 5-5-5-15 with 1.8V fully stable with a revised SPD im workin on...again tRFC was key.
Will try to post pics tomorrow, also posted over at the EVGA forum asking them to add tRFC to bios.
These boards could be some much more if they had all the tweaks for the end user to play with
Pretty sure the Striker 2 has NB temp readouts man, maybe ya everest software or co doesn't support it...
Building a rig based on this mobo right now.
What's the best bios to use with an E8400 ? I have to redo the heatpipe, temps over 75°C on idle ( lol ) just installed windows added an extra fan that kept temps around 65°C level... but I've seen better here...
your probably right, ive been testing 5 different mb's in the last 2 weeks so i cant keep them straight.. lol
i probably shouldnt have even posted anything but i was trying to help the guy out.. all 5 mb's ive tested are completely different so i couldnt remember but it sure seems like i couldnt find nb temps in windows with the striker II but i dont have it anymore so your probably right (although as you said maybe its just the version of everst im using)..
as for bios i only used the 9650 with that mb so i had to use the new beta bios.. 1001 i believe.. but from what ive read since your using the e8400 dual core you should have alot more luck than i did with quadcore.. atleast for me the strikerII and yorkie quadcore wasnt all that much fun
if anyone's interested, i took the 3x Raptors out of RAID 0 and disconnected power and just left one running and bingo, OCCT stable at 475*8! next step is see if the 3 drives plugged in cause the problem (not enough power) or if putting them in raid causes the problem (mobo is too weak).
Feedback welcome.
Interesting.......
What size is your power supply? More important, how much power can the rails deliver (Amperage)??
how old is your power supply???
this will tell you the mcp temps. Its not free but it kiks a$$
http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2872
I have an Enermax Noisetaker EG710AX-VE(W) (24P). It's 600W and 35A total.
It's about 3 years old.
I was thinking to replace it with this, but not sure I'm getting the best bang for my buck.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703009
if anyone is interested....
EK JUST posted the new 780i NB waterblock on their site.
Clear...
http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=239
Acetal...
http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=241
Firstly, Thanks to GAR for his excellent guide.
OK I am wanting to know how to ensure MEDIASHEILD drivers are uninstalled.
ie. I was getting a random nvgts.sys error and yes I have a SATA DVD-RW, even at stock settings.
What I have done in an attempt to uninstall mediasheild is run the setup from original disk (XFX 780i v9.46) and de-selected mediasheild. Installer then said it would uninstall current drivers then install chipset drivers upon reboot.
Upon reboot it did not automatically install the chipset drivers but I was getting 'new hardware found' indicating the chipset drivers were successfully unistalled.
I then proceded to install the chipset drivers from disk minus mediasheild drivers.
Does this method ensure mediashield drivers are NOT present on my system ?
my 780i evga just died yesterday, i had my q6600 g0 at 3.7 1.5v, it was 100% stable for a week or so..then yesterday it just rebooted...and it would reboot nonstop while turning back on..it would go into bios sometimes..which i did..set everything at stock..etc..but that didnt work..it would keep rebooting nonstop, i was able to log into windows one last time..and to my desmise..windows was showing my quad core as a dual core..lol , then the mobo restarted agian..nonstop once again..so i was like :banana::banana::banana::banana: this..i got a rma ticket with newegg..im gonna send it tomorrow..and have them send me a new one.. i really dunno what happened it was so stable and working perfectly..
PLease help,
OK I am wanting to know how to ensure MEDIASHEILD drivers are uninstalled.
ie. I was getting a random nvgts.sys error and yes I have a SATA DVD-RW, even at stock settings.
What I have done in an attempt to uninstall mediasheild is run the setup from original disk (XFX 780i v9.46) and de-selected mediasheild. Installer then said it would uninstall current drivers then install chipset drivers upon reboot.
Upon reboot it did not automatically install the chipset drivers but I was getting 'new hardware found' indicating the chipset drivers were successfully unistalled.
I then proceded to install the chipset drivers from disk minus mediasheild drivers.
Does this method ensure mediashield drivers are NOT present on my system ?
Im confused. I see everyone using Everest to monitor MCP temps, but all i have that even could possibly resemble the MCP is a sensor called Auxilary. I have the latest downloaded from Everest's webpage, and i have a license code that i've activated. I dont see MCP :(
As far as I know the only Everest versions that are 780i capable are beta builds. I've used 4.20.1257 Beta and now 4.20.1285 Beta. There have been some newer version but I haven't tried them.
This is the latest beta version that I found on the Everest forum.
http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...l9xdsv2crt.zip
Hi all, I have just purchased this board and a Q6600 CPU.
I have read almost the whole of this thread, and being the noob that I am :shrug: , haven't found an actual step by step guide to O/clocking?
The graphics card is self explanatory, although the CPU is not.
All I did was up the FSB in BIOS, I'm guessing there is other stuff I have to do, but all I can get my Q6600 to is 2.61. Any higher and it won't boot.
You guys talk of 3.2 and 3.4 etc. How the hell do you get to those speeds considering this CPU is suposed to be a great o/clocker.
It is the SLACR G0 version.
Any help in a step by step guide would be much appreciated!!!!!
Cibby.
your q6600 should do wayyyyyy more that 2.61....
i suggest you re-read this thread...a few people have posted their bios settings..try to copy them and see what you can do
Thanks, I must have missed the bios settings.
I'll re-read and see how I go.
Cheers.
anybody get decent results with the vdroop pencil mod? i got it to about 105k (closest i could get) and it did zero for my vdroop. i set 1.46v in bios, and its 1.41v measured. and it drops to 1.37v at 100% load. same as before i "modded" it. and yes, i am sure i did it right.
edit also i have been noticing that guys are monitoring their southbridge temps with everest. is there any significance to this temp? i mean does it really matter much if its low or high? as it controls the third pcie slot, the one that is not pcie 2.0, shouldnt high temps only affect guys running tri-sli? and is there any way to monitor spp (northbridge) temps, or is there not an included sensor for this?
here they are man, i found them for ya...try some of these settings out...
thx to ncsa
Advance Chipset Features
System Clocks
** Frequency Setting **
CPU Multiplier - x9
PCIe x16_3, MHz - 120
SSP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHZ - 250.0
** HT Multiplier **
nforce SPP --> nForce MCP 4 x
nforce SPP <-- nForce MCP 4 x
** Spread Spectrun Setting **
x CPU Spread Spectrun - Disabled
x HT Spread Spectrun - Disabled
x PCIe Spread Spectrun(MCP) - Disabled
x SATA Spread Spectrun - Disabled
FSB & Memory Config
FSB - Memory Clock Mode - Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Ratio - Auto
FSB (QDR), MHz - 1700
MEM (DDR), MHz - 907
Memory Timing Setting
Memory Timing Setting - Expert
tCL (CAS Latency) - 4
tRCD - 3
tRO - 3
tRAS - 8
Command Per Clock (CMD) - 2T
** Advance Memory Settings **
tRRD - Auto(4) (4)
tRC - Auto(26) (26)
tWR - Auto(6) (6)
tWTR - Auto(10) (9)
tREF - Auto (7.8uS)
CPU Configuration
Limit CPUID MaxVal - Disabled
Intel SpeedStep - Disabled
PPM Mode - Native Mode
CPU Thermal Control - Disabled
C1E Enhanced Halt State - Disabled
Excute Disable Bit - Disabled
Virtualization Technology - Disabled
CPU Core 0 - Enabled
CPU Core 1 - Enabled
CPU Core 2 - Enabled
CPU Core 3 - Enabled
System Voltages
CPU Core - 1.60000 (1.52v)
CPU FSB - Auto (1.4v)
Memory - 2.200v ( 2.200v)
nForce SPP - Auto (1.40v)
nForce MCP - Auto (1.500v)
GTLVREF Lane 0 - Auto (+00mv)
GTLVREF Lane 1 - Auto (+95mv)
GTLVREF Lane 2 - Auto (+00mv)
GTLVREF Lane 3 - Auto (+00mv)
HPET Function - Disabled
Intergrated Peripherials
RAID Config
IEEE1394 controller - Disabled
HD Audio - Disabled
IDE HDD Block Mode - Enabled
Onboard FDC Controller - Enabled
Onboard Serial Port 1 - Disabled
PnP/PCI Configurations
Init Display First - PCIEx
Reset Configuration - Disabled
Resources Controlled By - Auto(ESCD)
PCI/VGA Palette Snoop - Disabled
PCI Latency Timer(CLK) - 32
** PCI Express relative items **
Maximum Payload Size - 4096[/CODE]
Do you get better ocing results if you run the RAM linked???
How are some getting there TRAS down to 8? I have mine set at 15 and couldnt even boot at 12.
What is the max some are getting 24/7 stable with the E8400?
ok, my first mobo was DOA and replacement was working fine for a month until a couple hours ago when I restarted and it didn't boot again. "FF" code and nothing happens.
That's it!! After reading this forum I knew I had a "time bomb". Man... this sucks big time.
I'll get a replacement from EVGA, thank God their cs is awesome, but no more!! Had enough of nvgts crashes, checking MCP temps every day and testing a new driver every week hoping this time I'll get better scaling and a few more points on 3DMark from my SLI setup.
Time to unsubscribe. Good luck guys!! Thanks for all the help and info. Nvidia no more!!!:down:
When i get my board this saturday, i want to get same setting stable i have currently on my X38 mobo
450x8 @ 1.4V
What are the key values ill need to raise on this mobo and to what?
In the bios settings listed above. Why is the SATA Spread Spectrum Disabled? What does the Spread Spectrum do? The default is Down Spread. What does all this mean?
@ GAR
What 3dmark06 defult score you get?
With your Q6600 @ 3600
And your 8800GTS SSC SLI?
I'm really wondering if I should get a 780i board. I've read a lot of horror stories about them, and I have heard that the 780i doesn't OC as well as the X38 (If I don't go 780i I will go X38). What is the maximum stable OC that people have been able to get with a Q6600? (As long as it's 3.4+GHZ average I think I will go 780i)
no probs here, I love mine. Some peeps just expect too much.
Any recent board will do that mate... Only thing to check with these mobo's is to verify directly MCP temp, if it's too high from bios, you need to redo the heatpipe to lower temps... also I added a 6cm fan on the NB instead of the fan foreseen by eVGA... it's running now at a friends at 8 x 450 with his E8400 for over a week...and if it survives the LAN of next weekend I will be a happy assembler...