I don't know if it "needs" one, but I put one on just to be safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionheart
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I don't know if it "needs" one, but I put one on just to be safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionheart
your 8x8 fan on nb is enough even with high fsb, check your nb temp with asus probe, speedfan ... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lionheart
as Pantera i put a heatsink on my sb because the chips was hot but the heatsink is cold so you can do this but i think it's not necessary
Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
Thanx for the screens! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
However u got me confused. I see no prob with 4300 and P5N-E. These are some descent clocks for this cpu on air.
One more question. I've seen posts about pci-e reverting to 8X for no reason. Have u experienced this?
problems in oc a E4300 with this board are the fsb holes, if you avoid them it's ok :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
You must be carefull selecting your ram too because some have difficulties with latest N650/680i
I never saw pci-e problems at least for what i read :D
can someone make a pi 1M with a E6400 @ 3.7 ram sync 4/4/4/12 please ?
i did one @ 3.7 with ram unlinked 520 (4/4/4/12) and 550 ( 5/5/5/12) and i just try the same cpu on P5B-Dlx @ 3.7 sync 462 ( 4/4/4/12 ) and i won nearly 1 second !
I'd like to know if unlinked ram performs bad or if it's N650i which is a lot slower ...
Thanks for the help !
Order placed for a 6300. No need to mess with fsb holes... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
Tomorrow, probably i'll have preliminary results.
some website observed fsb holes with E6300 too so maybe it's true for all C2D ... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
I hope yours will be a good cloker ! :cool:
Is there a big difference in price with E6400 because with 7 multi you'll be limited ?
Quite a big (40€ here) for my 2nd rig...
Plus with the upcoming April price cuts, 6300 will lose less than both 4300 and 6400. This is not my final cpu. I can upgrade it whenever i like... ;)
you're right, i bought a E6400 for my 2nd ring too and i'll sell it before end april :D
Let us know what you can do with this E6300 ;)
New Bios Release 0505
Haven't tried it so your on your own.
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...N-E%20SLI/
Changes:
1. Add C1E function support for Conroe-L A-1 stepping CPU .
2. Support new CPU, please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...el=P5N-E%20SLI
3. Support FSB 1333 CPU .
4. Fix CPR might fail when overclock too much.
thanks a lot John !
I'm actually on P5B-Dlx so as soon as i'm back on P5N-E i'll try this new bios ;)
Anyone had time to try the new bios yet?
Mine is awsome. I never thought this thing would be able to get to 3700mhz. You need to remember that the same cpu can perform totally diffirent on diffirent boards. You should be able to get to 3500mhz if your chip has no fsb wall like my first one did. Even at 400mhz it was still a good chip. Cool the NB and you will be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
I'm going to read a little about it first. I'll get it today though. I'll post results when I'm finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Good good, I don't have the energy to switch mobo again if the stability issues aren't resolved with the new bios
we wait :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
OK. I've found that the "magic vcore" is 1.443v for 3.5ghz stable. 0505 BIOS didn't do anything noticeable on first impression. I'll have to do more testing to see if there are any benefits over 0401.
I am going to update 0505 too ^^
Can you still change multipliers on 0505? Someone tried it and said it lock his multiplier.
Did not have that problem. Thats very odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
OK. I changed out memory and now I can't boot to windows. It freezes after about 15sec. Not very happy. Any suggestions? I don't think it has anything to do with the BIOS. I think my board has had a problem from the beginning. I've never been able to do an Orthos blend. No matter the settings. Now it is just broken. I love this board, but what a headache. I'm getting closer to RMA. If I can't find the problem this weekend the egg gets it back.:slapass:
This bios is really weird and unorganized...I'm too used to DFI. I have to go back and forth between ~6 different pages to change OC settings and it gets really confusing.
Also, whats up with the DDR2 clock needing to be one half the FSB clock in bios? You would think that setting 1:1 would actually make it 1:1 and not 1:2 :slapass:. So I spent 30min trying to figure out why it kept failing POST and only booting every other boot until I went into CPU-Z and saw that setting it to half the FSB was actually 1:1 :confused:. Yea apparently my RAM doesn't like to post at DDR1066 533mhz :rolleyes:.
which ram do you use now ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
i suppose you tried on black slots ... :rolleyes:
Let us your bios settings please
yes bios values are a bit strange but you only have to konw that fsb is " quad pumped" so you must divide by 4 to get real fsb and for ram frequency you have to divide by 2 ... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kobalt
So far people with a E4300 have reported locked multipliers with the 0505 bios. Let me know what results you get if you flash to the new bios and what chip you have.
Thanks
EDIT: That would be a downward multiplier only.
i'll try to get results on french forums with E4300, i'll post here if i find something ( and if nobody answers before :D )Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
I think my problem was related to an unsecured connector. Everything seems fine now.
So is the 0505 bios yey or neh?
I have a very strange issue. Ive had the board since release, and all of the sudden tonight my ATi card was locking up and while in a game it locked up and wouldnt go back. I had to go to a PCI card before it would even bot up but it takes FOREVER for the BIOS to come up. The CD drives spin for 10 seconds as if its looking for a CD, then probably 20 seconds after I hit the power button does the monitor turn on (PCI Card only).
I had the original BIOS, and just went to the 4xx one from the site and still the same issue.
Weird thing is my OC is still the same??!! What the hell is going on? I have NEVER had this kind of issue before. I dont know if my GPU is dead, even though it wasnt OCed, or if the board is having issues.
did you try a clear cmos ( important with a bios flash ! )Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
with pci card it boots up but it's long ( maybe it's normal with a pci videocard ... :confused: but it's strange )
If your oc is still the same the board seems to work :stick:
The best way to be sure is to try your ATI on another ring if you can ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by james111
0505 is a Downgraded ROM file. It will lock your multiplier. Best bet is to stay with 0401Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
I dont have another rig, so I am guessing it is the card. Time for a 8800 GTX now I guess. :( The card is still in the system, but I dont even see it under the Device Manager or anything.
To clear CMOS I take the battery out. Is that ok?
it really lock multi ? you tried with your E6400 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
i saw some people who noticed an increase in oc with their E4300 with the 0505 bios ...
what i can suggest you is to remove your X1900XTX from pci-e slot, put it in another time. Then, you plug off your power supplie, you move the clear cmos jumper on the motherboard ( see where it is in the manual, it's on the down right ) , let it a few seconds next you put it back as original. You plug on your power supplie and switch on your computer ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
I hope this will help you and that your ATI card is not dead
I haven't tried it. My system runs to good to try it. Enough people have reported back that it locks there multiplier downward ( E4300, E6300, E6400, E6600 ). I guess it's a bug in the bios. I can't see Asus eliminating that option. Most of the people flashed back to their previous bios The only ones that benefit seem to be running Vista and the fix is minimal ( Hibernation )Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
Vdroop on this board is horrible and unmoddable. Even doing the vdroop mod I still get ~.02vdroop. Here are my results if anyone is interested...btw the intial resistance was 129.5k ohms
1.343v idle 82.7k ohms
1.283v load 82.7k ohms
.06vdroop
1.345v idle 77.6k ohms
1.285v load 77.6k ohms
.06vdroop
1.350v idle 66.7k ohms
1.295v load 66.7k ohms
.055vdroop
1.351v idle 57.3k ohms
1.307v load 57.3k ohms
.044vdroop
1.3431v idle 41.6k ohms
1.310v load 41.6k ohms
.033vdroop
1.361v idle 31.5k ohms
1.328v load 31.5k ohms
.033vdroop
1.362v idle 27.6k ohms
1.331v load 27.6k ohms
.031vdroop
1.356v idle 20.7k
1.330v load 20.7k
.026vdroop
1.348v idle 14.9k
1.327v load 14.9k
.021vdroop
1.348v idle 12.4k
1.327v load 12.4k
.021vdroop
1.357v idle 9.75k
1.338v load 9.75k
.019vdroop
it was confirmed by a french user too on a E4300 multi are locked but he can oc a little more with this bios so it can be interesting for those who use original multi ...Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
some bad results :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobalt
i just made a pencil mod and i obtained good result with nearly no vdroop at all.
Maybe you could try it with a 2HB pencil
what was your ending resistance?
Pulling it down to around 100kohms worked for me. Your results are definitely strange. What are the markings on the chip next to the resistor that needs to be modded?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobalt
yes couppi made a nice thread about this mod :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=127528
ADP3198
J #0637
1002951.1
Korea
I'll try to get a picture later, but it was hard to get the writing to show up when I just tried.
And yea he made a nice thread...cept I've taken up the last page lol.
it's the correct chip, and i suppose you did the mod on the good resistor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobalt
Last pages are interesting too :rolleyes:
i've tested mine with dry-ice....but after test i've use hairdryer to remove all humidity to be sure... put my infinity on....running with my 24/7 setting for around 2 hour and got a nice blackscreen and after nothing....board seem to be death....return to that %*&% P5B vanilla for the RMA time...
but i've got nice result with it before death
E6600 L637A
Asus P5N-E SLI bios 0202
eVGA 8800GTS 640mb
Team Xtreem 5300 3/3/3/8 2*1gb
http://public.ntic.qc.ca/Boogotop/2k1%204537mhz.JPG
http://public.ntic.qc.ca/Boogotop/Be...3.27%2032m.JPG
nice results Boogotop ! :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogotop
sorry to see it death :(
ps: come to see us on OCM ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
It was a pretty tiring weekend with P5N-E.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
I've spent about 2 days trying to make the stupid onboard lan to work. :mad:
I've searched around the web trying to find a solution. Learned about the RIS driver issue and NVidia. However i haven't managed to install the RIS driver that asus list on P5N-E download. Both 8.26 and 8.43 drivers result in a non functioning lan plus if u try to play with different drivers u'll end up with a CPU utilization of 100% all the time. Not even drive cleaner can do the job.
So after 3 winxp formats the only working solution for me is to install lan drivers from the install disk (which includes both NV driver and RIS) while installing the sm bus driver from 8.43's. Anyone else haven't experienced this prob?
Apart from that, I got the worst 6300 that exists. This crappy thing can go up to 2.9ghz and this with 1.6v vcore! :eek:
Right now i'm on 2.8ghz with 1.475v. FSB isn't an issue cause it's working till 470mhz with 6X multi. I would change it asap for a new one, but i'm a bit busy @ this time, so i'm going to leave it on till the April price drop and then change it for a 6400/6600.
Apart from these. The mobo is way more stable than what i have expected. Even after 3 days of testing and playing with settings, it didn't require a psu shutdown for CPR to kick (like my P5B). I've had a long time seeing such a good oc'ing behavior from a m/b. Vdrop is terrible on this board however and nb needs to be cooled asap. I'm using Coolermaster chipset hsf on mine.
I'm using 401 bios. Haven't tried 505.
I had bad luck with my first e6300. It wouldn't post above 400mhz. under 401 was fine, but 401 and above won't work. With the chip I use now, I can boot at 532mhz, and clockgen to 534mhz. It isn't stable, but that is because of the vdroop on my S3. I can't get this to be stable over 507mhz, but I think vdroop (even after the mod) still plays a role as well as nb voltage. I sure would like to use my chip at 528mhz fsb like I could with it in my S3.
0505 official is posted on asus website, Im gonna wait to see if it still locks downward multi's before I try.
My e6300 is getting hung up on 507fsb too. I think we're being limited by the motherboard because 500fsb is totally stable at 1.38v but 508 isn't stable at 1.6v. I'll boot fine at 500, clockgen up to 506/7 and the system will freeze. I have the vdroop mod too. Maybe the 0505 bios with the 1333 support has a new strap that will allow a higher overclock? I haven't tried it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
for what i heard it locks multi :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
just try ...
yep maybe, someone should try the 0505 bios to know if fsb can go higher with itQuote:
Originally Posted by nosleep
I have P5N-E & e4300 just few days. First impression is very good(not the hot NB HS :D ).
http://ceemic.pri.ee/c2d/17.563.JPG 1,55V vcore(just in case); 1,3xV vNB, 2,2xV mem...
But here comes the problem: I can't go over 385MHz FSB :mad:
Tried 6-8 multies, 0307 and 0401 BIOS, different memslots, different voltages and mem:FSB dividers, no result:confused:
NB is cooled by a custom 80x80 fan, zalman heatsink on SB...
(I dont believe the crappy samsung 2x512 667 "value" rams are the reason)
Tomorrow I am going to try mu CPU in a different board; "hopefully" it is "CPU FSB wall":stick: ...and maybe I can try e6300 on my board-->this should finally reveal the truth:)
How is your vdroop?
Haven't measured...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobalt
I don't think vdroop has anything to do with it:rolleyes:
CPU does easely 3,4GHz@1,55V, NB 1,208V;)
I think it has to do with the NB. I still have vdroop even after the mod, and I'm completely stable at 3.5ghz. at 507mhz it will boot into windows easily, but it will freeze if you put any kind of a load to it. I think (think) that you could go higher if you did a vmch mod. I have adequate cooling for 2v I think. I haven't seen anything higher than 510mhz fsb on this board. I'll do a vmch mod when I get some VR's for the vdroop mod as well. I couldn't get stable at 500mhz until I put my HR-05 SLI on the NB.
OK. This is what I booted to.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5309/boot505ey0.png
This is what I clogkgened to.
Well, the image got corrupted, but it was 509mhz. I went to 511 after that and it froze instantly. I'm going to mod it soon and I will post results when I do. We'll find out if this will go over 510mhz or not.
It very well could be the NB. I'd like to see the results with 2v. Just keep a close eye on those NB temps lol
I think they fixed the multiplier problem on the 0505 bios. They took it off their site yesterday for repairs. It then popped up again and so far one person confirmed that the multiplier works as it should.Quote:
Originally Posted by geof
Luckily the problem was e4300 FSB "wall"
Tried e6300 on my P5N-E: http://ceemic.pri.ee/c2d/18.718-fsb465.JPG
better than 385, but still much to go:cool:
e6400 is arriving next week:D
Asuck P5N-E SLI BIOS version 0505 ... freaking piece of sh****t
http://members.cox.net/hung1410/asuc...0505_error.jpg
Don't know what the f***k Ass-suck programmers are doing .....
If there any pencil mod to fix the vdroop?
Yes, in the mod section. Or try the SEARCH funcition, or read this thread, or try googleQuote:
Originally Posted by Hyde`fK
sbinh,
It's only a downgraded ROM file if you try to upgrade from 0401. From 0202 or 0307 it's an upgrade. Use awdflash.exe instead of EzFash to flash that bios. Try it, you can always upgraded back to 0401 lol Stay cool you know how this stuff works.
Hi guys
I just got this board(Came with 401 bios) with a E4300 my memory is Corsair 6400C4 v1.2 D9.
Im new to intel how should I oce the chip Unlinked,linked? should I use the 9 or 8 divider?and are there any important settings I should disable?
My memory is sli ready should I mess with the sli settings in the bios?
linked, unlinked causes random crashes from what I hear.
Will I be able to OC an e4300 to 333x9 = 3.0GHZ without having to worry about vdroop?
vdroop applies at all voltage levels but is does increase alot with more voltage. If you are aiming for 3ghz you wont have to worry about it much tbh
I want to ask if anyone has tried the vdimm voltage mod for this board ?
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4450&s=12
My board wont boot because the ram is being a pleb (needs 2.2v) and the bios has decided to reset itself after I left it off for a few mins.
I dont really want to risk this ginea pig style but having the board out of operation unless I buy some more ram is crap also.
Im hoping the mod raises the vdimm from the base, so 1.8v default will become 2v
Anyone got any info?
[QUOTE=Hajpoj;2087259]linked, unlinked causes random crashes from what I hear.
Then how im a suppose to oce I only see Unlinked,linked and auto.
Im gonna get either the thermalright HR-05 or thermalright HR-05 SLI for the NB im gonna put a 80mm fan on it if i get the HR-05 the fan will be blowing upward if get the HR-05 Sli the air will be going down which would give better temps to the NB.
[QUOTE=malik22;2087452]I mean run it linked. Unlinked causes problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hajpoj
linked doesn't work right for me...if I set it to linked it wants to do FSB to DRAM of 1:2.
any help on my HR-05 question.
I have the stock NB heatsink with an 80mm fan (side case fan) blowing on it and I get fsb2000 (3.5) with my 6300, stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
HR-05? Sure. Although I'd just put an 80mm fan on the stock NB and be done with it.
As for settings, and general info, here's a good place to start:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...VIEWTMP=Linear
I'll say that I haven't had any problems with this board. I'm now running bios 0505. never had a problem with linked, unlinked, auto or anything.
Thx for the reply what I really wanted to know is which one of the HR-05 would give better temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by nosleep
Found it. Very much thanks. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
yesterday night my mobo is dead :mad: :mad: :mad: with no reason. NF650i is easy die?
Check its really dead, remove bios battery and leave alone for 24hr unplugged
Yes I removed bios battery but not work.The screen boot is blank
I haven't experienced any probs with unlinked after a week testing with numerous settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hajpoj
I have an infinity and the mormal hr-05 would not fit. I had to get an sli version. They are the same and cool the same. Getting one over the other is pointless. The both help you with nb temp, even if used passivly. As long as you have a fan on it, it doesn't matter what direction it is blowing. mine is blowing air toward my video card.Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
me neither. Linked causes more problems for me than unlinked. This motherboard is weird on fsb holes and ratios. Some will let you get a higher fsb, while others will limit your fsb, but let your memory run wild. Strange board.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Does it power up at all? Have you shorted the cmos jumper? What were you doing when it "died"? What were all of your voltages. You might have killed your video card, or your memory, or your cpu, or your psu. We need more info.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionheart
I tried to check everything and know exactly my mobo is dead :(. But others device still work well :banana: :banana: :banana: . I had recevied new mobo yesterday moring :) hope new mobo will not die again ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
I have a E4300 running with this board at
3ghz
vcore 1.4
Vmem 2.19
Nb 1.39
offset auto
unlinked 1333 Qdr
I raised everything to the following just to see if i could boot into windows at higher clocks im using the 9 divider.
vcore 1.55
vmem 2.28
Nb 1.7
offset 100v
the pc will boot at qdr 1400 but wont at 1450 1500 1550 1600 what could be the problem?
Do i need to change ltd from 5? or change NB pci Mhz from 100?
I disabled everything unnecessary in bios tried my corsair 6400C4 in the yellow and black slots even loosened timings to 5 5 5 15 2t but it still wont boot at 1450 1500 1550 1600 linked or unlinked.
malik22, if you use unlinked, whats the mem freequency?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceemic
Its at 800.
try to lower multi to see is there some FSB "wall":rolleyes:
my e4300 had wall on 385mhz:mad:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceemic
Used the 8 multi and it wouldnt boot at 1600.
I shouldnt touch the ltd and NB pci Mhz right?
no need to, IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by malik22
try multi 6 also
Could the pin mod for the E4300 help me oce further?
I cant go further than 1440 3.24 ghz It doesnt seem to like other multis im still using stock cooler on cpu and have a 80mm fan on NB maybe temps raise to fast.
You need an aftermarket HSF. Tower, infinity, ninja, gemeni, something other than the crap stock hsf. If that doesn't cure your problem, try putting an aftermarket hsf on the NB. That cured my random rebooting problem. My NB was overheating and causing my pc to freeze. I put an HR-05 sli on there and no more problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
Quote:
Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
Im gonna do that PanteraGSTK but how about the pin mod does that open up a E4300 for ocing or is it not worth the risk?
northbridge cooling aside form the stock heatsink is a MUST, i can not stress that enough.
if you dont put a fan on there its gunna over heat. even at stock its insanely hot.
i've said it before i'll say it again. no matter how cheap asus wanted this board they were absolutely retarded for not putting a fan on that northbridge.
and it would have costed them less than a dollar to do it.
hell 50mm fans are only like 3 bucks. go buy one, you wont regret it.
and you should seriously look into a heatsink and or heatsink/fan for the southbridge, that sucker gets hotter than hell too.
My e4300 didn't boot past 333. Did the pin mod to fsb 266 and it didn't help in fsb wall (altough it booted at 266). But imho there's no risk in making the pin mod...Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
I ghetto mounted an 80mm fan right between the video card and hard drive and it works well. It cools the southbridge very well in addition the the RAM and northbridge. I don't like whiney 50mm fans :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I have a half kilo brass lock sitting on my northbridge, soaks up the heat nicely though the heatsink itself is still hot enough to hurt when touched. Registered temp with a cooker thermometer is only 50c but thats likely under estimating a bit. Highest Ive seen is 150F
Get a better heatsink.Still,it's very hard to get E4300 orthos stable past 1450 FSB at 9x multi.Mine also doesn't like lower multi's.:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
Got terrible vcore drops from 1.6v idle to 1.52v under load, done the pencil mod and now the vcore seems a lot more stable (1.6v in bios now shows 1.63 in software).
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4525/desktopsz5.jpg
Currently set vcore to 1.53v in bios, shows 1.55v above under software.
just sitting in windows, my cpu is always at 50% load, usually with 1 core at 80% with the other at 20%.any reason for that? and this rig is really slow at logging of and shutting down(takes over a minute.) performs normally in all my benchmarks and games.currently on the 0401 bios.does it support the q6600?
@ RAMMAN Sounds like a software program causing that. Open windows task manager and see what all you have running. Close everything in sys tray one at a time and anything else running in the background til you find what it is.
turns out it was abit uguru still installed from my last mobo.now my cpu is back to 0% load.
is it safe to assume linked is more stable than unlinked in the bios? and is the q6600 compatible with my board?