140$ OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 Platinum XTC Edition 2GB With free shipping.
124$ CRUCIAL 2GB KIT (1GB x 2) MATCH PAIR PC2-5300 667MHZ CL5 I dont know what these are.
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140$ OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 Platinum XTC Edition 2GB With free shipping.
124$ CRUCIAL 2GB KIT (1GB x 2) MATCH PAIR PC2-5300 667MHZ CL5 I dont know what these are.
Firestix PC8000 D9GKX (I believe) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820150043
$239.99
20 kits left as of 1:40am 3/27/07, most of the PC2-8000 Firestix I have seen have been GKX so your most likely right Hutch! Not a bad kit guys! Beats paying well over a $100 more for my GKX unfortunetly!
Well your kit is definately a lot higher binned and use an 8 layer PCB. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
I think I'm gonna have to settle for the D9GMH firestix for $163.99. The price is what's got me ;)
@Hutch
Thanks for the heads up
@Roger_D25
i though you were happy with your memory ; however you can pick a pair of the Firestix for 4GB >>>> to the alphas >>>> more Ballistic >>>> few Cell Shock and start to collect them like stamps :p:
gosh cheap ram everywhere!!! what to buy... what to buy... :)
the 10th anniversaries are available again!!! i shoulda just waited to RMA had i known they'd be available again. :(
Kemo,
I would love to collect and test many different kits of RAM like some guys can do here, but being a poor college kid I'll have to be happy with a single decent kit!
Shimmishim,
Did you sell your GSKills (F2-8000PHU2-2GBHZ) yet, if so are you actually in the market for another kit? Also how has your PC2-5300 (non-Anniversary) modules working out for you? Are you happy with them or did your original kit do much better? I don't know if it's possible or not but get in touch with Crucial and tell them you see new 2GB Anniversary kits for sale (retail) and that you want to RMA your non-Anni for them now that their instock (worth a shot maybe)?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccokeman
You had some BUFFALO Firestix FSX800D2C with Elpida ICs?
Well we can safely assume that the ones from Newegg are D9GMH. Just checked my two kits and they are indeed D9GMH. Maybe the people that bought theirs from Microcenter had an earlier version. Also, you can sorta tell if they are Elpida by the soldering method.Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
Both Elpida from Micro center and both were assembled in October (i am estimating that:D ) and yes were are assuming that they are GMH but low binQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
Hmmm, I would like the see the SPD screenshot from CPUZ. So far my obversation on these kits is that they require about 2.3~2.4vdimm to run 1000Mhz CL4 or 800Mhz CL3.Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1...0mhzxj3.th.jpg
SPD by handleQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
http://home.comcast.net/~somephotos/buffalo.jpg
Here's the one with D9GMH, I see the difference:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3...falospdje2.jpg
Hey Roger!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
No, I still have the G.Skill sitting in the Fs/Ft forum waiting to be sold. :)
The 5300's have actually been a pleasant surprise. They've done quite well for me. For the time being I've stopped benching so I don't know how much more I can push them.
That is a good idea. I will contact Crucial to see if they'll send me a kit of the 10th Anniversary. :)
and yes, i am in the market for new memory. the OCZ FlexXLC 9200 look nice.
Exactly the one with Elpida should be Cas4 partQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
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Originally Posted by memoryman
289$ :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
Kemo,
Do we know yet what IC's this kit uses? At the moment you have this kit listed in the "Price Premium" section but should it be listed in the $260-$340 section instead because it's ony $289 at the moment (then again the price has been changing so often on RAM lately who knows how long it will only cost $289)?
I see $219.99 now. What a deal! Are these GKX 100% or some high binned GMH? Doesn't matter does it hahah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
It is GMH with 8 layers PCB , i am keeping it there duo to water cooling option + it is OCZ highest bin ,right know OCZ is trying to crush completion there prices are very low ATM , the most expensive 2GB kit for 290$ sounds ridiculously low but at the end this is better for USQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
so far GKXQuote:
Originally Posted by deeznuts
OMG, i didn't realize they were $320 before MIR!Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
I better find something cheaper. :)
And it looks like newegg no longer has anymore 10th anniversary. i wonder if crucial still does... hm...
Excuse me , you were expecting lower that this :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
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Originally Posted by kemo6600
Interesting about the FSX800D2B because I thought that these were D9GKX. Oh well, at least we have something to go by (i.e. SPD Screenshot) to tell them apart.
and that what makes the confusion all the 2B i have seen where GKX until they discontinued the product :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
I was expecting $260-$275. so it's not too off but still a bit high. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
I had emailed crucial a few weeks ago regarding the 10th anniversary kits. They said that they were ONLY offered through newegg and they were a one time thing.
Has anyone given the PC2-9200 OCZ 3.0v+? Curious as to how well they'll do...
When's ddr3 being released?
people started to play with some chilled water and that OCZ and then they found cold bug so no one pushed it so far and DDR3 should be around in the same time frame as Bearlake in Q3Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
Should I get the G.Skill HZ DDR2 800 or the Firestix DDR2 1000? G.Skill is $40 on newegg but does it overclock better?
at this point i do prefer the Firestix (higher value) , anyway what is the rest of your configuration and your OC plansQuote:
Originally Posted by Yay for Cheese
I'm planning to build soon
xeon 3060, maybe something else after price cuts
DFI RD600 for CF
All the other parts are pretty much set. Just not sure about RAM.
Yay for Cheese,
What are your overclocking plans once you get your rig built? Would you rather have a kit that runs stock at 1000Mhz (PC2-8000) or a slower kit (PC2-6400) that you could just overclocking to run at PC2-8000 (1000Mhz) speeds? In either case I'd probably go with the Firestix as well, decent modules!
I'll probably take the Firestix then. Seems to overclock better from the small searching I've done.
Kemo just about everything on the list needs a price adjustment for the better :). You should also add OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 2GB
And check this out
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 = 189$ after rebate!!!!
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (1GBx2) DDR2-800 PC2-6400 = 219$ no rebate
Hmm, real nice! I really enjoyed the Crucial Ballistix PC2-8000 (DDR2-1000), very good overclocker indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
Thanks for the heads mate , now we should remove the list and leave two kits only :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
ask irev210 about them . high bin GMHQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
Say I wanted to run 4x1gb of the Ballistix 1000. What would i be looking at for an oc.
say 550-560 MHZ 4-4-4-5 2.4V or around 500MHZ with 2.2-2.25 . running 4 dimms is not much stress on your mobo these daysQuote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
Those cucial ballistix 1000 are very nice memory!
Have a set that clock exceptionally well.
Much better than OCZ 1100 bought a few weeks ago.
Tempted to buy another crucial and sell the OCZ
you can add
CRUCIAL PC2-5300 667MHz 2gb kit. D9GMH, made in Singapure
here in slovenija i can get them for 120€ 2x1GB :)
I know I've said this before but the PC2-8000 Ballistixs were the best modules I ever owned, hands down! For some reason I sold them and I still regred it! Although my Cellshocks are great they don't run 1150Mhz @ 4-4-4-5 on 2.35v stable like the Ballistix did! At $189 after MIR they are probably the best RAMS you can buy for the money!
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 = 189$ after rebate!!!!
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (1GBx2) DDR2-800 PC2-6400 = 219$ no rebate
G.Skill HZ DDR2 800
^^^
Which of theses would you get and why? If not on the list I have up to $240 to spend on ram.
I would personally go with the HZ for 170$ no rebate. Unless you are going to be doing extreme benching all you need from your memory is 1000Mhz and all of these will do that easy.
rfisher983,
It's a tough call with so many decent kits available for small money, as I wrote above though I'd go with the Ballistix over the HZ's. With that said though either kit would most likely do anything you'd need them to do and more! The OCZ Alpha VX2 modules that TeRm has are also great modules and binned pretty high! If I'm not mistaken their also warrentied for 2.5v which can make for alot of fun, lol!
looking at http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/
if you go under super talent and look at part# T800UX2GC4, it still only lists d9 chips as the only ones used, but i did some reading where people thought they didn't use d9 chips anymore but no one actually had evidence of non d9 chips in the threads i read, unless i missed a thread that confirmed non d9.
I am asking this since they are only around $151 at ewiz, newegg has them for $161 after $15 mir.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=T800UX2GC4&show=r
so if chances are good to get d9, then i would think that would be a good deal.
I believe that your chances are approximately zero. They switched a few months ago. Just about every d9 you can find is on the list.
I think that rOOn does his best to keep that list updated and as accurate as possible but IC's change so quickly now it's very difficult to be accurate all the time. With that said be careful buying any RAM based on any list, nobody can know for sure! I recenlty purchased a kit of the GSkill F2-8000PHU2-2GBHZ's which were listed as GKX/GCT, well they arrived with GMH. That is not a great example because GMH is great but it could have been anything!
This is true, they suck, well not if you're only looking to get 800Mhz (its rated speed), but other than that forget about it, at least the pair I got anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
Kemmo6600, I would remove Patriot PDC22G8000+XBLK (D9GKX) from the list becaue Patriot stopped the production.
you are talking about the 667 Cas 5 , here in USA it is not guaranteed GMH , you need to go and check the ICs your self before buyingQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
the best bang is the HZ but if you want slightly better OC get the Crucial PC8000Quote:
Originally Posted by rfisher983
it says D9 because we couldn't identify the new ICs used anyway i will talk to r00n to fix that issueQuote:
Originally Posted by zbomb5610
doneQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
Yes, it was mentioned and confirmed in Super Talent T800UX2GC4 D9GMH (post #13).Quote:
Originally Posted by zbomb5610
They look very much like Nanya, but I'm not 100% sure. Guess I forgot to add them to the list just to make sure people are aware it's not always Micron. It's on the list now.
Thanks, Roger_D25. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Got it, thanks. Until further notice I'll put Nanya with a questionmark behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
kemo 6600: retailer told me 100% ;)
thanks r00n :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by r00n
100% in SLOVENIA not in USA because 2 weeks ago D9NHL was reported :(Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
thanks for the info and thanks for the update.Quote:
Originally Posted by r00n
seems like i am going to pick up the g.skill hz's
The HZ are only 5$ cheaper then the crucial pc1000 right now after rebate. It looks like newegg got the sense to make the hz more expensive than the hk. I should have jumped on the HZ when they were 169$ :( i can still here them calling my name haha.
i would get the crucial, but i also live in ca, therefore i pay tax on 240, plus shipping, which totals to about $265 - $50 rebate, so still costs me around $215 shipped. HZ would still be a good amount less and chances are they will run what i need them to run, especially since the next memory multiplier on my ds3 at 2.5x will want the ram to run at 1300, so chances are i will keep it at 2x and i won't notice a difference b/t the g.skill or crucial.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
http://shrani.si/thumbs/dsc00091xl94.jpg
w00t :toast:
ATTENTION Slovenian people TEDY's retailer got 5 kits of Crucial GMH each for 120€ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, attack TEDY and grab those kits while you can :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
very nice.. :)
hahaha.. ddr2 prices are going down..
mm.. I'm waiting for ocz flex to go down more.. hahahaha.. :)
I've been hearing that the Buffalo CERTIFIED series uses only D9GMH now. $65.99 on newegg for 1GB...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820150029
http://www.shopatbuffalotech.com/car...t=42023&page=3
Only what I've been hearing, will need to get confirmation though.
Confirmation >>>>>>>>>>>> Confirmation >>>>>>>>>>>>Confirmation >>>>>>>>>>>>ConfirmationQuote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
not just an "egg" review
Happy easter :D
The RAM used in the pictures that newegg has up for those modules clearly shows Elpida IC's? Then again the pictures are rarely what you actually get?
nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
newegg sells a lot of stuff, would be impossible for them to update every time buffalo switches to a new IC.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145048
just like this photo, fatbody D9? I think not heheh
Haha that's not where I heard it from lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
Thanks Hutch and Kemo, I just grabbed 4 of these for 271$ Shipped. I hope they are decent. Where did you here about them being microns?
we don't have confirmation that this are Micron ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, wait for a while :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
I must say, I think the Gskill HK's are the best buy for 24/7 usage. They'll do PC8000 4-4-3-5 with acceptable 24/7 voltage (2.15-2.3V.) To be honest too, I haven't really heard any reports of people killing these sticks either.
Sure you can get the firestix, but remember, you're playing with fire! ;)
What the heck, I thought you had a conformation lol they already shipped.
i am so sorry if any of our posts created any conflict ,,,,, i tried to contact you as soon as possible ,,,,, posted 7 minutes after you ,,, send a PM ,,, added you on the MSN hopefully you will show up ,,, the only thing i forgot to do is to mail you :slapass: ,,,,,,,,,,, i am so sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
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Originally Posted by kemo6600
would you take those over the hz's if you had a choice and prices were the same? are those oc'ing higher than the hz's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
Its alright, I went off line right after I posted it. Then i couldent get on xs this afternoon for some reason. Thanks for trying to contact me tho. I guess we will all know for sure in a day or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
Good going kemo6600, poor TeRm probably just bought 4 kits of Elpida based modules because of your suggestions, lol! Of course I'm just joking around guys, it was an easy misunderstanding! In anycase TeRm even if their not Micron based modules they might clock very well but I'm hoping thier GMH because that would be a great buy! Can't wait to hear what they end up being and how well they clock! I hope you'll keep us posted?
What is the cheapest D9GMH right now?
I just got my 6400hz g.skill in today, they have the black pcb, not sure if that matters, but they seem to be great so far.
I was running 4-4-4-4 @ 1040 with 2.3 v, but i did some reading and i am afraid to run any more than 2.2v to them if it is going to start making them worse at oc'ing and not make them as stable after some time.
they are great but not suitable for all XS people , you know we love to benchQuote:
Originally Posted by Hutch
HZ is a better clocker ,, the HK are the best for lower voltage 24/7 use and like Hutch said there is lower rate of deathQuote:
Originally Posted by zbomb5610
i did my best ,,,,, hopefully you are lucky guy ,,,, GMH in a sea of ElpidaQuote:
Originally Posted by TeRm
i need your opinion on this ,,,,, did i posted anything that indicates that i do have confirmationQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Buffalo Firestix however the best thing to do if you are on budget is to get the G.Skill PC6400HZ (slightly more expensive but better quality and support )Quote:
Originally Posted by finaldeathh
the Black PCB was newly introduced on the HZ ,,, better or not , i don't know ,,,,,,,,,,,, you are talking about ram degrading over time ,, yes it sometimes happen so 2.2V will keep you safe or just add a small fan to cool the memory and give it 2.3VQuote:
Originally Posted by zbomb5610
i have an antec spot cool fan that blows a good amount of air, if i put that over the memory, that would probably help, but does that actually help out a good enough amount in decreasing ram from degrading with the extra .1v?Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
thanks for the reply kemo.
4-4-4-x was not stable with 2.2v in memtest
i got 5-4-4-12 stable with 2.2v in memtest at 1040, i could probably get that 12 lower but for now i am good, ill play with it some more tomorrow maybe.
He probably interpreted your post with four times 'Confirmation' as a confirmation. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
G.Skill 6400HZ with black PCB = Crucial Ballistix with flashed SPD.Quote:
Buffalo Firestix however the best thing to do if you are on budget is to get the G.Skill PC6400HZ (slightly more expensive but better quality and support)
the Black PCB was newly introduced on the HZ ,,, better or not , i don't know ,,,,,,,,,,,,
cooling the memory will decrease the rate of ram degrading over time but still they might degrade with 2.2V and fan on them or survive with 2.4V with no cooling ,,,, nothing guaranteed when it comes to OC but you got better chances with a cooling fanQuote:
Originally Posted by zbomb5610
i will try to be more clear next timeQuote:
Originally Posted by r00n
i think i have read that somewhere here in xtreme bandwidth and that might be the reason for cheap HZ lately ,,, i didn't expect it to get lower than the 200$ markQuote:
Originally Posted by r00n
is that a good or bad thing? or does it make absolutely no difference. which model crucial ballistix is it that is flashed to SPD??Quote:
Originally Posted by r00n
Crucial's PCB is a bit better than G.Skill's. Then again, Micron owns Crucial so it's easier for them to adjust the PCB to best suit their own ICs.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbomb5610
Does it matter? It's PC6400 now, so you'll get 400MHz memory capable of more.Quote:
which model crucial ballistix is it that is flashed to SPD??
i was thinking of something else when i asked which model ballistix was flashed to spd, so it was just another pc6400 ballistix that was flashed to spd i would assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by r00n
thanks for the answer about the crucial pcb.
Haldal 2nd to last post at the thread below says pc5300 which is why i asked which model. That would mean it is native 667 wouldn't it? If it is just native 667 and not native 800, wouldn't that mean it will be less likely to overclock as well as a higher binned set or am i way off, because i am still learning how these things work?Quote:
Originally Posted by r00n
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=125394&page=3
I took that as a conformation as in happy easter look at this great deal. Anyway I will just rma them if there not microns. I used my 6400 in a friends rig so ive got nothing to test these sticks with. now im waiting for the intel price drop, then ill pick up a 6600.Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
Kemo/TeRm,
When I read through the forum the other day I truly didn't take Kemo's post as confirmation that the modules were indeed GMH, infact I took it as the complete opposite (that is that you need to get confirmation first before buying)! With that said it could probably be easy to see it both ways, especially if I were excited about finding 1GB modules of GMH for only $69 bucks, lol! Like you said though TeRm, since you bought them through newegg it will be very easy to return if their not to your liking. I would test them out though, even if their not Microns (you never know)?
By the way TeRm, when should your modules get delivered?
That easter egg thing was a joke with Hutch and it was obvious that he understood what i meant
I got the G.Skill 2GB HK Promos chips instead since I heard they overclock just as good as average D9's. They are now sold out on Newegg. When I ordered, there was still 5 left but gone by today.
I plan on running it @ 1000mhz 4-4-4-10 2.1v 24/7. You think it's possible?
That would be very impressive if they did, this is the reason I told TeRm to test his modules first (if their not D9's) because some of these kits clock very well! There are a few great reviews here at XS finaldeathh on the HK's, if I find one I'll give you the linky!
I'll be interested to hear your results because I just received (30mins ago) the same stuff. Temporary replacement while I await RMA on my HZ (1 stick died recently :( )Quote:
Originally Posted by finaldeathh
[edit; stupid comment below... yeah it runs at spec :rolleyes:]
FYI, nothing special but currently @ 800 4.4.3.5 2.1v (folding 100%) other specs per 'Main' in sig.
[edit: currently running at previous HZ spec except 4-4-3-5... 1:1@876 (8x438 3.5GHz) @2.15v. Will be leaving it here for now... work to do ;)]
I've been doing some reading and I think these Promos chips are best left at 2.1v. That's where the sweet spot is.
I think these can do 4-4-4-10 2.1v 1000Mhz with a little bit of tweaking.
Yea. I think Enjoy reviewed a kit and almost got them to 1200mhz. That's why I got them in the first place. I also saw a lot of Micron D9 users having their sticks die on them so I stayed away from the G.Skill HZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
I don't need to do any WR's, I just need it max my E6300 out.
Initially I tried at spec @2.1v. Then I reinstated my prev. OC settings except with 4-4-3-5. The DQ6 reset the OC initially so I bumped the voltage to 2.15v. Past experience with this board says I should have just rebooted and it probably would have booted up fine. I haven't played any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by finaldeathh
There's no point going much higher than 8x438 for me because of CPU temp. I'm inclined to keep Core Temps below 60c and this machine folds 24/7 with or without me working.
Current specs essentially as per 'Main' in sig. except HK's instead of HZ's and latency mentioned above.
So you are actually using better timings. Good news.:toast:
they come tomorrow but I dont have a rig to test them just yet, not for a few weeks :(.
Yeah, I'm happy with them so far :). Certainly a good choice for my current setup on air and 100% CPU 24/7 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by finaldeathh
When I get a chance I'll play around and see how far I can I go before the CPU gets too close frying or bugging out ;) i.e., short spells and no serious stability testing.
1000mhz 4-4-4-10 2.1v needs high bin GMH ,,, i don't think that this is possible with the HK but shoot for it anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by finaldeathh
damn. that makes me sad. my first set of firestix800 did 1000 4-4-4-10 with only 2.1v, and 800 3-3-3-8 with 2.2v. too bad they got eaten up
What do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
They are all elpidas :(. Is there a way to not have to pay a restocking fee. There not opened.
Term, I apologize for the misunderstanding. When I posted that I was mostly asking to others to help get confirmation. Usually newegg doesn't make you pay the restocking fee, especially if they are unopened. You can exchange them for something else also. They are really good when it comes to returns. Since you are without a rig for a few weeks, you may wanna try your luck with the Crucial PC8000 w/ the $50 MIR.
Sorry to hear that TeRm, it was worth a shot! I 100% agree with Hutch, if you can do it get the Crucial Ballistix PC2-8000 modules do it! They are still the best modules I've ever used, even above my much more expensive Cellshocks (GKX)! I guess it's not worth testing because you don't want to open the package right, plus there is a very good chance their not going to clock as good as you'd like! Just to let you know, I have always had a very easy time with returns at newegg, there is a reason so many people buy their hardware there! Good luck and keep us posted please?
I love how newegg has the picture for the 1GB PC6400 Firestix as the FSX800D2B-512m which is the D9GKX model (Cas 4 PC6400 firestix) yet they are shipping the FSX800D2C-512m... Either way though they are cheap! ($84.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820150053
All I can say is good luck with your hardware return
the old D2B = GKX , new = ElpidaQuote:
Originally Posted by Hutch