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02-01-2009, 12:54 AM
pangingIII

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

mike thats the problem i cant get it to run 5:6,which is the 333 strap. even if i lower the fsb to 480 no go.i dont get it ive tried 2GB cellshocks and now im using 2GB teamsand still no go.its weird cause that was the strap ive always used with my dual cores and never had a problem it always seemed to be the best strap to use(556fsb was no problem with dualcore using 5:6 333strap)thats why im wondering if my memory controller is borked.when i try 480fsb and use the 333 strap 5:6 divider it does this weird boot thing where it boots then shuts down real quick then starts up and shuts down quick again and then keeps doing this till i turn it off at the psu switch.it doesnt do the three boots and reset to default thing.so im kind of stumped here

5:6/4:5 may be a bit harder to deal with than 1:1 since you're running a high fsb on quad, well i'm not quite sure which one is harder til i try it myself.
it seems to me it's mostly about your bios dram setting, voltage and reference voltage settings are also important, but it doesn't seem you have this problem.
and this's happened to be an easier said than done and i'll want to sit in front of your computer screen and try a few changes in your bios and a few system boots before i give this up.
02-01-2009, 01:16 AM
Ghostleader

Quote:

Originally Posted by pangingIII

You're welcome.
and i'm not quite understand your question.
if you mean whether or not i can run 450fsb with the same BIOS voltage setting above?
then my answer is, sure i can, with the above voltage setting my system will boot into Windows fine at 450fsb, but the system may not stable due to 450x7.5 it will certainly needs more volts and some other tuning in BIOS.

anyways, all of these following BIOS set worked for my E8400 and Q9300, 4x1GB HyperX 9600's (and 4x1GB HyperX 9600+Gskill 8500 HK)...
450fsb, Turbo or Standard (Extreme mode never worked for my ram kits), strap 333mhz, memory multi 2.4B, , 5-5-5-15 DDR-1080, tRD 8,
450fsb, Turbo or Standard, strap 400mhz, memory multi 2.66D, 4x1GB, 5-5-5-15 DDR-1200, tRD 7,
450fsb, Turbo or Standard, strap 266mhz, memory multi 2.50A, 4x1GB, 5-5-5-15 DDR-1125, tRD 8.

Was I wonder was if you could run 450 1080 with strap 333 2.4B, I see that you can. Sorry for not be that clear.

Thank you, much apprecieted. :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by clo007

I'm set 1:1 now and it fails. I contacted Gigabyte Tech Support and there response to me is to go buy some value ram to see if it works. WTF?! So you make a mobo that supposedly supports DDR1333 but I am to go buy value ram?

I´m speachless, I don´t know what to say, it seems like some UD3P have problems. :shrug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunky Phish

Sorry Ghost, only just seen it your question.

Its G.Skill PC2-8500C5
Rated
266Mhz 4-4-4-10 1T 1.8v
400Mhz 5-5-5-15 1T 1.8v
533Mhz 5-5-5-15 2T 2.1v

I´m doing some runs with my E6600 at 450 3150 ram 2x1 1200 555 15 tRD7, I have stable throu 50 loop LinX and 3 hours Prime95 blend.

Next step are 450 3600 1200 and try to lower some volts.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...7200901312.jpg
02-01-2009, 01:40 AM
radaja

ok,i got it to boot with 266strap 4:5 at 500fsb with ddr 1250 pl8,then i tried 506 fsb 266 strap 4:5 ddr at 1263,these worked fine but were not that stable needed to add more mch and vdimm(too much for my liking).so i then i noticed when scrolling through the dividers that if strap is on auto and memory speed is auto it defaults to ddr1200 the 5:6 divider.so i tried it with both on auto and it booted up just fine.it just doesnt boot when i manually set it.very weird.anyways my everest scores arent much better using the 5:6 or 4:5 divider with pl8 compared to what i get using 1:1 pl 9.if i used the 5:6 or 4:5 at pl9 it would almost be the same as 1:1 pl9.http://i41.tinypic.com/21jt2bl.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/352i06c.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/n5fzo8.jpg
02-01-2009, 03:03 AM
Phunky Phish

@ Ghostleader

Any chance of your bios settings mate?

[QUOTE=Ghostleader;3619420]

I´m doing some runs with my E6600 at 450 3150 ram 2x1 1200 555 15 tRD7, I have stable throu 50 loop LinX and 3 hours Prime95 blend.

Next step are 450 3600 1200 and try to lower some volts.
02-01-2009, 04:10 AM
Ghostleader

@pangingIII

Sorry but there´s no luck for me to run 400 1066 or 450 1080 with my 2x1 Kingston HyperX PC9600, I can run 450 1200 with them thou, kind of wierd, don´t you agree.

I have the same with all the official BIOS (F4, F5, F6, F7).

Well I have to see what to do, anyway thank you again for all your help.

@radja

Nice OC on that quad. :up:

I got one myself after the price drop, shall drop it in my UD3P next week, kind of excited.

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Originally Posted by Phunky Phish

@ Ghostleader

Any chance of your bios settings mate?

Of course, here you are.

Code:

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P BIOS F7 E6600 2x1 Kingston HyperX PC9600 Micron D9GKX MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ..................: Auto CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7 Fine CPU Clock Ratio......................: 0 CPU Frequency ............................: 3,15GHz (450x7) Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control CPU Host Clock Control....................: Enabled CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .................: 450 PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 100 C.I.A. 2..................................: Disabled Advanced Clock Control CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv PCI Express Clock Drive...................: 900mv CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps DRAM Performance Control Performance Enhance......................: Turbo MCH Frequency Latch......................: 333MHz System Memory Multiplier ................: 2.40B Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..................: 1200 DRAM Timing Selectable ..................: Manual Standard Timing Control CAS Latency Time.........................: 5 tRCD ....................................: 5 tRP......................................: 5 tRAS.....................................: 15 Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter] tRRD.....................................: 3 [Auto] tWTR.....................................: 3 [Auto] tWR......................................: 6 [Auto] tRFC.....................................: 42 [Auto] tRTP.....................................: 3 [Auto] Command Rate (CMD) ......................: 0 [Auto] Channel A Channel A Timings Settings Static tRead Value......................: 7 Channel B Channel B Timings Settings Static tRead Value......................: 7 Motherboard Voltage Control Load-Line Calibration.....................: Enabled CPU Vcore...............1.32500V..........: 1.43750 CPU Termination.........1.200V............: 1.360 CPU PLL.................1.500V............: 1.570 CPU Reference...........0.760V............: 0,800 (66,7%) MCH/ICH MCH Core................1.100V............: 1.260 MCH Reference...........0.760V............: 0,760 (63,5%) MCH/DRAM Reference......0.900V............: Auto ICH I/O.................1.500V............: 1,500 ICH Core................1.100V............: 1,100 DRAM DRAM Voltage............1.800V............: 2,300 DRAM Termination........0.900V............: Auto Channel A Address Vref..0.900V............: Auto Channel B Address Vref..0.900V............: Auto Advanced Settings Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled No-Execute Memory Protect.................: Enabled CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................: Disabled C2/C2E State Support......................: Disabled x C4/C4E State Support....................: Disabled CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...............: Enabled CPU EIST Function.........................: Disabled Virtualization Technology.................: Disabled

I have a hard time to get it stable at 450 3600, it won´t run stable at 400 3600 neither, I know it can do it, I ran it on my good old Striker Extreme.

Well, I try it a other day, run 500 3500 ram 1000 555 15 right now, just finished 50 loop LinX, running Prime95 blend right now, have to wait and see if it can pass it, if it´s okey then I start to work on lower volts.
02-01-2009, 08:37 AM
clo007

Ghostleader: i actually have a UD3R.

I took out the cmos battery and shorted the CMOS over night. Tried 2 sticks again and no post. pull one out, it boots right up. I am seriously pissed!!! I have spent $230 on two identical boards,one rev1.0 and one rev 1.1. Both boards have the same exact issue!!!!
02-01-2009, 08:38 AM
Phunky Phish

@ Ghostleader
What RAM is that you are using? My G.Skill rated 1066 so I am guessing you are using higher speed RAM?
Do you think your E6600 would do 450fsb with x8 multi?
The board is not so keen to OC the E6600 chips as it is 45nm duals you think?
02-01-2009, 09:05 AM
clo007

Contacted newegg and getting a refund on this newer rev 1.1 board. i am going to try and figure out the issue with the ram on the rev 1.0, as I am stuck with that one.
02-01-2009, 10:49 AM
radaja

im pretty happy with the performance im getting with this clock.gotta say these 9650's are beasts,i recommend that everyone should get one.heres my bios settings,hope it helps.http://i44.tinypic.com/167tbtw.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/2m2ffo0.jpg BIOS F7 Q9650

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)

Robust Graphics Booster ..................: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio......................: 0.5
CPU Frequency ............................: 4.318 (508x8.5)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control....................: Enabled
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .................: 508
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..............: auto
C.I.A. 2..................................: Disabled

Advanced Clock Control
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 1000mv
PCI Express Clock Drive...................: 1000mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps).......................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps).......................: 50ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance......................: Turbo
MCH Frequency Latch......................: auto
System Memory Multiplier ................: 2.00D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..................: 1016
DRAM Timing Selectable ..................: Manual

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time.........................: 5
tRCD ....................................: 5
tRP......................................: 4
tRAS.....................................: 12
Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
tRRD.....................................: [Auto]
tWTR.....................................: [Auto]
tWR......................................: [Auto]
tRFC.....................................: 30
tRTP.....................................: [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) ......................: 0 [Auto]
Channel A
Channel A Timings Settings
Static tRead Value......................: 9
REST AUTO
Channel B
Channel B Timings Settings
Static tRead Value......................: 9
REST AUTO
Motherboard Voltage Control

Load-Line Calibration.....................: Enabled
CPU Vcore...............1.32500V..........: 1.4125
CPU Termination.........1.200V............: 1.420
CPU PLL.................1.500V............: 1.570
CPU Reference...........0.760V............: 0,924
MCH/ICH
MCH Core................1.100V............: 1.42
MCH Reference...........0.760V............: 0,939
MCH/DRAM Reference......0.900V............: Normal
ICH I/O.................1.500V............: Normal
ICH Core................1.100V............: Normal
DRAM
DRAM Voltage............1.800V............: 2,200
DRAM Termination........0.900V............: Normal
Channel A Address Vref..0.900V............:Normal
Channel B Address Vref..0.900V............:Normal

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect.................: Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................: Disabled
C2/C2E State Support......................: Disabled
x C4/C4E State Support....................: Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...............: Disabled
CPU EIST Function.........................: Disabled
Virtualization Technology.................: Disabled
02-01-2009, 12:19 PM
fatguy1992

Very nice work radaja :up:

I wish I had enough money to buy a Q9650 :(
02-01-2009, 12:34 PM
Ghostleader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunky Phish

@ Ghostleader
What RAM is that you are using? My G.Skill rated 1066 so I am guessing you are using higher speed RAM?
Do you think your E6600 would do 450fsb with x8 multi?
The board is not so keen to OC the E6600 chips as it is 45nm duals you think?

You´re right, I´m using 2x1 Kingston HyperX PC9600 (1200MHz) right now but the strange thing is that I can do 450 ram 1200 but not 400 ram 1066,1200 or 450 ram 1080, don´t know what´s. :shrug:

I have problem running 450 8 3600, I don´t know what´s yet, I have done it in the past with my Striker Extreme.

I have it stable with 500 3500 ram 1000 555 15 tRD10 right now, working to get those volt down a bit.

I think it´s okey to run 65nm on this board, I have tried my Q6600 and now this E6600 and both run okey, you need to change your CPU ref from 0,760v to 0,800v, then it works a little better.

E6600 is old now so I can recommend to get a E8400, E8500 or even E8600 if you have some money, they are all amazing CPUs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clo007

Ghostleader: i actually have a UD3R.

I took out the cmos battery and shorted the CMOS over night. Tried 2 sticks again and no post. pull one out, it boots right up. I am seriously pissed!!! I have spent $230 on two identical boards,one rev1.0 and one rev 1.1. Both boards have the same exact issue!!!!

Okey, well they are almost the same, no big different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by clo007

Contacted newegg and getting a refund on this newer rev 1.1 board. i am going to try and figure out the issue with the ram on the rev 1.0, as I am stuck with that one.

Good luck with that, I probably gonna RMA mine, thinking of getting me a P5Q-E and try Ket modded BIOS and see what it can do compare to UD3P.
02-01-2009, 02:22 PM
clo007

i may give up on this board too and go for a Asus as well.
02-01-2009, 02:51 PM
stingush

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingush

here's what i've got with the UD3P...
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9430/cpu4209cc1.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=496284
and that's for SPi 1MB :
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4118/lidornubfz1.jpg
please watch out for the memory tab on the CPU-Z validation... all dimms are taken and the 2X2GB is PC4200.. :P

is this any good? or its like an ordinery UD3P ?(please give less attention to the voltages... its just for safety - no use in them 24/7)
02-01-2009, 03:34 PM
bobreece

hey guys installed the ddr3 version and my ram is cosair 1800mhz dominators 888 24 but i carnt get it to run at stock. i can get my cpu to 450fsb to make it 1:1 but it wont have it i have o lower my ram any ideas guys apart from rmaing it and getting the ddr2 version
02-01-2009, 04:13 PM
coop

I got a UD3P after reading some in this thread. I am really happy with it so far. I have to post. Thanks for all the useful information posted too. These bios are a bit different from a couple years back. [IMG]http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8781/4203b2x1xj4.jpg[/IMG]
02-01-2009, 06:01 PM
Jor3lBR

CPU and MCH Ref = Stability or No Stability

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

im pretty happy with the performance im getting with this clock.gotta say these 9650's are beasts,i recommend that everyone should get one.heres my bios settings,hope it helps.d

Well done RADAJA you did good and played VERY well with the CPU Ref and MCH Ref. None of that stability will last without those 2 key figures in the play. :up: And thanks for posting stable template for folks here!

I've been saying this for some time now, the key for stability and even booting ram on this board is MCH and CPU Ref. and those can be different from board to board. My Rev 1.0 board template will not work on the Rev 1.1 because of different CPU Ref setting.

So people that are getting Prime95 blend fails or Memtest #7 errors once again this is your tip: CPU Ref and MCh Ref.
02-01-2009, 07:10 PM
radaja

Jor3IBR,thank, yep when i first started with the quad i was still thinking like i was using my dual core in terms of mch ref and cpu ref.but i kept messing with it and i think i found what my 9650 likes.heres my latest,voltages are all the same as my last template.i think i might go to city hall tomorrow and see what it will take to get a marriage liscense for my Q9650 and UD3P,cause i think they are in love.any one can see that they are meant to be together.http://i42.tinypic.com/bjbih2.jpg
02-01-2009, 07:45 PM
Jor3lBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

Jor3IBR,thank, yep when i first started with the quad i was still thinking like i was using my dual core in terms of mch ref and cpu ref.but i kept messing with it and i think i found what my 9650 likes.heres my latest,voltages are all the same as my last template.i think i might go to city hall tomorrow and see what it will take to get a marriage liscense for my Q9650 and UD3P,cause i think they are in love.any one can see that they are meant to be together.]

Yes Radaja they are a perfect match.

I believe I had my running for quite some time with those same settings your using up to 518Mhz x 8.5 multi (4403Mhz). Vcore on CPUZ was between 1.37-1.39.

This multi is very forgiven and it gives great temps for the cpu, unlike the 9 multi that starts to toast a bit :-)
02-01-2009, 09:22 PM
neo mike

tried to warn u

Tried to warn people BOB, the ddr3 version of this board is not a good board, trust me your better off with the ddr2 version, RMA IT as fast as you can.

I have to get me one of those 9650 quads, those things rock, anybody want a e8500:rofl:. Who has the best prices on the 9650 quad ?
02-01-2009, 09:23 PM
EliTE22

well... anyone had trouble with your UD3 not wanting to go over real 1.440v??? for a hour it would not go higher:shrug:, even with 1.7v vcore in the bios, now it working but i didnt change anything but the vcore anyone had this happen?
02-01-2009, 10:21 PM
fatguy1992

@stingush

:eek: at those volts

Lower the PLL to 1.57 or lower and VTT to 1.3v or lower

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliTE22

well... anyone had trouble with your UD3 not wanting to go over real 1.440v??? for a hour it would not go higher:shrug:, even with 1.7v vcore in the bios, now it working but i didnt change anything but the vcore anyone had this happen?

Wow thats werid :shrug:
02-01-2009, 11:59 PM
pangingIII

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostleader

@pangingIII

Sorry but there´s no luck for me to run 400 1066 or 450 1080 with my 2x1 Kingston HyperX PC9600, I can run 450 1200 with them thou, kind of wierd, don´t you agree.

I have the same with all the official BIOS (F4, F5, F6, F7).

Well I have to see what to do, anyway thank you again for all your help.

your welcome.

i rechecked for you again on the 400fsb 400 strap 3:4 ddr1066, and 450fsb 333 strap 5:6 ddr1080 since i normally don't run my system with these 2 cpu fsb and ram speeds.

i don't seem to have problem at all with my 333 and 400 straps, my system will boot and also run fine with the straps at anytime i wanted it to, as far as i can remember.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8...2135931tj2.png

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7...2141441rf0.png

i'm just curious as to why you are having problems running these, the only thing i can think of right now is, maybe you are using one of 1066 MHz processors on this board, and mine is always using a 1333 MHz processor. of course it may not be this as the reason, and it's still mystery to me.
anyway, have you tried checking with gigabyte tech support about this?
02-02-2009, 01:17 AM
pangingIII

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

ok,i got it to boot with 266strap 4:5 at 500fsb with ddr 1250 pl8,then i tried 506 fsb 266 strap 4:5 ddr at 1263,these worked fine but were not that stable needed to add more mch and vdimm(too much for my liking).so i then i noticed when scrolling through the dividers that if strap is on auto and memory speed is auto it defaults to ddr1200 the 5:6 divider.so i tried it with both on auto and it booted up just fine.it just doesnt boot when i manually set it.very weird.anyways my everest scores arent much better using the 5:6 or 4:5 divider with pl8 compared to what i get using 1:1 pl 9.if i used the 5:6 or 4:5 at pl9 it would almost be the same as 1:1 pl9.

looks like you're really having a good time with your new q9650. i think this cpu appears to have some fsb overclocking headroom.
anyway, have you ever tried to get to maybe 533fsb on a low cpu multi yet? also, i still wondering, so how much vdimm voltage you need to use on the team kit to stable at your 500x8.5 and ram running at ddr1200 (5:6), and how much NB voltage did the system take to handle the overclocking?

as of now, i don't think i will have a chance to buy and try out a q9650. it will be easier for me to decide on buying a new socket 775 quad processor if i don't already have a single one with me.
02-02-2009, 02:13 AM
bobreece

it seems this drr3 version is just a ddr2 board altered to run ddr3 will test a bit more tday but if not happy by tea time its time to order the ddr2 version
02-02-2009, 02:14 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobreece

hey guys installed the ddr3 version and my ram is cosair 1800mhz dominators 888 24 but i carnt get it to run at stock. i can get my cpu to 450fsb to make it 1:1 but it wont have it i have o lower my ram any ideas guys apart from rmaing it and getting the ddr2 version

Get the DDR2 version Bob, I loath my DDR3 version too. Tonite will test it with the Corsairs low voltage DDR3 1600C8 dimms. If it has stabilty issues with them too I'll RMA mine ...

At the moment I have to run my Mushkin rams at 1333mhz speed max... this board has way too many issues... and bios development is far too slow...

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