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09-20-2009, 01:04 PM
Kylzer

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Never heard of FRAPS slowing down framerates before...

I have but i think its in rare cases TBH.
09-20-2009, 01:08 PM
LiquidReactor

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Never heard of FRAPS slowing down framerates before...

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Originally Posted by Kylzer

I have but i think its in rare cases TBH.

Maybe with old single core P4 pcs but I've never seen a slown down due to it with either CS Source, GTA IV or Crysis.
09-20-2009, 01:23 PM
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:rofl:,am not the only one looking forward to new series :)
09-20-2009, 02:36 PM
cybereality

Thanks a bunch 'postumus' for the benches. I'm so going to get this card.
09-20-2009, 02:46 PM
Eastcoasthandle

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Originally Posted by postumus

Dunno if the fittings are the same, it's a pretty heavy card I can tell you that much so the hsf inside is likely larger. \

Uhh some1 earlier pointed me towards the NFS Swift demo, I dled and installed it, but I dont see anyway to bench it. That said I tried it at 1920x1080x16AFx8aa and it runs smooth as silk :D

Ah man thanks!!! What kind of frame rates are you getting?
09-20-2009, 04:08 PM
Sh1tyMcGee

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Ah man thanks!!! What kind of frame rates are you getting?

I run NFS Shift 1920x1080 4XAA with a 4870 512mb smooth. I havnt noticed any slowdowns or issues other people talking about with ati and this game. cat 9.9
09-20-2009, 04:29 PM
Kylzer

Any word on the HD5770 performance?
09-20-2009, 05:42 PM
postumus

Crysis

Run #1- DX10 1920x1080 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 29.89

Just chews through the AA ;)

Anyway it's back to work tmrw so I think my lil preview is over, thanks again guys for the helpful links, my small hd is now full of demo and benching material ;)
09-20-2009, 05:44 PM
astrallite

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Originally Posted by postumus

Run #1- DX10 1920x1080 AA=4x, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 27.42 with 8xAF, seems kinda low but maybe it's the drivers/something with my setup.

I got

26.6fps no AA
21.62fps 4xAA

1080p Very High
with GTX285 SSC + i7 @ 3.6ghz
nvidia 190 drivers Vista Ultimate x64

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Originally Posted by postumus

Crysis

Run #1- DX10 1920x1080 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 29.89

Just chews through the AA ;)

Anyway it's back to work tmrw so I think my lil preview is over, thanks again guys for the helpful links, my small hd is now full of demo and benching material ;)

Postumus, how did your framerate increase with 16xQ? O_O

Also how did you set this in the game itself or the ATI Control Panel? The benchmark is based on the game values so you have to restart the game to set the settings. Forcing values at driver level seem to have zero effect (16QAA supersampling/16xAF did not change my framerate at all). I ask this because you have an AF setting and I don't see the game has any setting to change AF, only AA...

Since 16Q is not a native ATI AA but rather Nvidia it could be a bug and simply defaulting to the next highest (8x).
09-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Milos-stancene

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Originally Posted by postumus

Crysis

Run #1- DX10 1920x1080 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 29.89

Just chews through the AA ;)

Anyway it's back to work tmrw so I think my lil preview is over, thanks again guys for the helpful links, my small hd is now full of demo and benching material ;)

you need two of them :welcome:
09-20-2009, 06:49 PM
jam2k

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Originally Posted by Kylzer

Any word on the HD5770 performance?

Around 4890 performance.
09-20-2009, 07:21 PM
dinos22

so whats the verdict
it's just a touch faster than 4870X2? correct

man that thing will just wipe the floor with nvidia in quadfire in vantage looking at those numbers so far
09-20-2009, 07:36 PM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by Sh1tyMcGee

I run NFS Shift 1920x1080 4XAA with a 4870 512mb smooth. I havnt noticed any slowdowns or issues other people talking about with ati and this game. cat 9.9

Again as I asked earlier in the thread, how? I run 2560x1600 2x AA at around 35-40fps during races maxed in-game options 16x AF, sometimes up to 45 if not many cars on screen, in the full NFS Shift game. My system is a GTX 280 1GB, i7 920 HT on @ 3.72ghz, 6GB DDR3, X-Fi XtremeGamer, Asus P6T X58. Something smells funny with your statement.
09-20-2009, 07:50 PM
Soultaker52

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Again as I asked earlier in the thread, how? I run 2560x1600 2x AA at around 35-40fps during races maxed in-game options 16x AF, sometimes up to 45 if not many cars on screen, in the full NFS Shift game. My system is a GTX 280 1GB, i7 920 HT on @ 3.72ghz, 6GB DDR3, X-Fi XtremeGamer, Asus P6T X58. Something smells funny with your statement.

I don't see what's wrong with it. I'm pulling around 50fps durring races with 2xAA and everything else maxed at 1920x1200 on my 4870 512mb.
09-20-2009, 07:57 PM
hurleybird

Can anyone tell if this image is a fake? It's supposedly a RV870 die shot, but the interesting thing is that people (tweakers, rage3D) are counting 2560SPs. It would make a lot of sense, given the rumors of TMSC 40nm problems, that even with the larger die ATI could get a great yield if they only enabled 62.5% of the compute and texturing resources on RV870. After yields improved they create a full on 5890 SKU to go against G300. On the other hand, we've already had a fake die shot coming out of chiphell.
09-20-2009, 08:09 PM
zerazax

That's a fake....

The real die shot was shown in the slides on ATI's strategy...
09-20-2009, 08:11 PM
Jowy Atreides

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Originally Posted by hurleybird

Can anyone tell if this image is a fake? It's supposedly a RV870 die shot, but the interesting thing is that people (tweakers, rage3D) are counting 2560SPs. It would make a lot of sense, given the rumors of TMSC 40nm problems, that even with the larger die ATI could get a great yield if they only enabled 62.5% of the compute and texturing resources on RV870. After yields improved they create a full on 5890 SKU to go against G300. On the other hand, we've already had a fake die shot coming out of chiphell.

Rumour says the 5900 will have 2560 sp's

Nvidia camoflage!

http://www.techfuels.com/attachments...assified-1.jpg
09-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Kylzer

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Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides

Rumour says the 5900 will have 2560 sp's

Hmm that seems a bit too crazy.
09-20-2009, 08:36 PM
adpr_02

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Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides

Rumour says the 5900 will have 2560 sp's

That's messed up. that's 1.6x the performance of a 5870 right there.... why would anybody buy one now, if in 2 or 3 months you have something that much better? It wouldn't be called a 59xx...

if 1.6x a 4870 is a 5870, then 1.6x a 5870 is a 6870, no?
09-20-2009, 08:40 PM
Jowy Atreides

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Originally Posted by adpr_02

That's messed up. that's 1.6x the performance of a 5870 right there.... why would anybody buy one now, if in 2 or 3 months you have something that much better? It wouldn't be called a 59xx...

if 1.6x a 4870 is a 5870, then 1.6x a 5870 is a 6870, no?

It could be a stupid rumour
...or a super cunning bait and switch ati are pulling for the gtx380 launch

who knows :shrug:

99% I'd say rumour

btw, tomorrow is the 22nd - is the nda over then?
09-20-2009, 08:52 PM
Mr. K6

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Originally Posted by postumus

Run #1- DX10 1920x1080 AA=4x, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 27.42 with 8xAF, seems kinda low but maybe it's the drivers/something with my setup.

I know it's not the EXACT same engine, but throwing this out there - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...0_8.html#sect2
That doesn't seem too far off :shrug:. Looks like ~30-35% boost over a 4890 AND it's using beta drivers.

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Originally Posted by postumus

Crysis

Run #1- DX10 1920x1080 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 29.89

Just chews through the AA ;)

Anyway it's back to work tmrw so I think my lil preview is over, thanks again guys for the helpful links, my small hd is now full of demo and benching material ;)

Now THAT's amazing :clap:. I don't think any other card could ever run 16xQ AA in Crysis and get playable framerates, never mind at 1920x1080 :eek:. Fantastic results.

Thanks for all the posting and testing you've done, I appreciate it. :up:
09-20-2009, 09:25 PM
Newblar

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Originally Posted by hurleybird

Can anyone tell if this image is a fake? It's supposedly a RV870 die shot, but the interesting thing is that people (tweakers, rage3D) are counting 2560SPs. It would make a lot of sense, given the rumors of TMSC 40nm problems, that even with the larger die ATI could get a great yield if they only enabled 62.5% of the compute and texturing resources on RV870. After yields improved they create a full on 5890 SKU to go against G300. On the other hand, we've already had a fake die shot coming out of chiphell.

yes its fake
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=3035

i just woke up -,-
09-20-2009, 10:31 PM
Kylzer

http://i38.tinypic.com/66eyxg.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/2e5oaqd.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/fu179c.jpg
09-20-2009, 10:37 PM
dinos22

looks like that game is optimised better for ATI cards for superhigh res
09-20-2009, 10:58 PM
villa1n

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Originally Posted by Kylzer

http://i38.tinypic.com/66eyxg.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/2e5oaqd.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/fu179c.jpg

Doesnt look a very optimised game... the 285 killing the 295 gtx at 1080p....

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