thx Evo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by e.v.o
and what about the swiftech WB? someone has tried this?
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thx Evo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by e.v.o
and what about the swiftech WB? someone has tried this?
Max FSB Ive seen is 607 on air, 670 with CPU on LN2 (or DICE, can't remember now).
The MCW30 will fit, but fits better if you mod it slightly. Theres pics in the thread somewhere. The MCW-NBMAX is made for this board (and the rampage extreme) so it will fit perfectly onto the existing heatpipe setup (not directly onto the nb chip) - look at the pics for an idea of the options you have.
Links to pics here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=205323
MCW30 fits just fine, there was NO modding requiredQuote:
Originally Posted by KURTZ
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...DSCF0035-1.jpg
So it sits perfectly and the mounting posts are straight without modding?
For my board at least, I had to flip the mounting arms upsidedown. In addition to that the mounting posts were slightly crooked.
If this makes any sense:
Heatpipe/sink <---screw---(washer - spring+stopper - thumb screw)---screwhead.
Probably a dumb question, anyone using sata optical drives on the "speeding" sata headers, or is it not possible??
Posts are perfectly straight, yes the mounting arm had to be reversed but if thats considered modding:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
The new NB block from Swiftech looks nice but dont see a need for it if you have the MCW30
Quote:
Originally Posted by s@ber
Now i cant have even biostar working.. Well earlier I managed to run few tests with HD 2400 XT atleast:
http://hwbot.org/user.do?userId=10270
I already orderes new PSU if my old is the problem for all. Tomorrow I see what happens.
Can you post your NB&SB temps with this block please?(in order to make a comparison with the MCW-NBMAX i recenlty owned).Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I run 8*500 and my temps are ΝΒ:46 Idle - 50 Load SB:40 Idle - 47 Load.
My W/C consists of ''Eleven's'' CPU Block [~33 Idle - 61 Load (Linpack) cooling a E8400 1.33v]/ MCW60-R that cools a 9800GTX 840 Core [32 idle - 40 load - Testing with Furmark] /Triple Radiator/Tank/MCP655.
It seems to me that something rong with my SB/NB Temps.Maybe Probe reports wrong temps.:mad:
If Asus doesn't start taking care of the people buying their high end boards "ROG" will change to "ROC" (Republic of Crap). :shakes:
Oh wait, I did get a flashy little ROG light. :ROTF:
My NB temp 39c idle 45-47 load running linpakQuote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
SB 40c idle 47c load
Running 471x8.5 @ 1.40vCore and 1.39150 vNB 1.1/1.5 vSB
PA120.3, Apogee GT, EK full coverage 3870X3, MCW30, MCP655 single bay res
Using Everest 4.60.1500
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...on_Moniter.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
Xexe..:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
Thanks for the info!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Did you mentioned any SB temp drop (aprox. 9-10C) after putting the block to the northy?
So there is a problem with my NB temps..(vnb=1.29)..
I will re-check my block/heatpipes contact..and i will mod my block..because it has a lite (inside) surface.:up:
Its been on water out of the box so I cant say what kinda temp drop the block madeQuote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil
Nice, and no I definitely don't consider reversing the mounting arm to be modding :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Hey, I was wondering if I could get some advice on what to tweak to get a stable 4+ GHz with this board and an e8600- I've looked through the thread and tried setups posted by cstkl1, BuGjAE, radaja, CryptiK, and others that have posted 4+ GHz dual core bios settings, and with all of them orthos invariably craps out with a rounding error within minutes (no pattern in which core fails that i could detect.).
Specs: MIIF 1306 bios w/ e8600 VID 1.25 watercooled
GSkill 2x2gb pc8800
pcp&c 750w
winxp64
I can get pretty decent memory bandwidth with the following settings (and I ran memtest for 5 complete rounds and 30 rounds of test 5 without errors), but again it fails orthos within minutes (usually seconds):
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
FSB Frequency: 572
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1142Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto (also tried advancing all these 250 to 300)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 65 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
PCIE Frequency: 101
CPU Voltage: tried 1.35 all the way up to 1.43
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: tried 1.22 to 1.27
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
North Bridge Voltage: tried 1.27 to 1.37
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Tried auto and -40 to +40
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Tried auto and -40 to +40
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Thanks for any suggestions. I was wondering if I just needed to bludgeon it with more vcore, or if it simply won't fly with this lofty of a fsb goal (but many of the other setups I've emulated employ a lower fsb in the upper 400's to lower 500's range, and I still can't get stability with them).:shrug: I did set everything to stock timings and volts and i ran an error free orthos session for 8hrs (I was hoping this would throw errors too so i could blame the equipment!!!)
EDIT: I just got home to see my system at 4.05 GHz (450x9) is still priming error free at 10 hrs! I know I've tried 450x9 before and failed; I did however flash to the 1307 bios, disable loadline calibration, and bump up vcore a bit (I think I'm at 1.42 in bios and 1.36 according to everest under load) this time compared with previous failures at this speed.
I see a new bios for the M2F - 0803. It has a much smaller file size besides being out of numerical order. It is on the Asus web site but I think I will let someone else be the guinea pig on this one. Sounds a bit strange to me.
Yah, that one is an error. It is for the P5Q-SE series. Someone at ASUS dumped it into the wrong motherboard archive. Seriously, would you trust a bios that was released on a Friday afternoon???Quote:
Originally Posted by genec57
:)
@ drnick - you have 2 possible approaches. You can use the 10x multi and keep the ram 1:1 with the FSB, keep the timings loose, set PL10, give the cpu ~1.2v vFSB and the NB ~1.30v and find the max cpu clock for the vcore you are comfortable with. Then bring everything else up and find the best ram settings for whatever FSB you have settled on. Finally adjust the voltages so you are giving the bare minimum for everything to be stable.
or
Keep the multi low (eg 6x) and push the FSB to the level you're aiming for keeping the ram initially at 1:1, PL10, and when you have the FSB and ram stable at the given speed, bump up the multi until you find the max the cpu can handle for the vcore you're comfortable with. Then adjust the other voltages so your giving everything the bare minimum required for stability.
Guys...need some help.
Recently replaced my dying 780i with this Maxumus II Formula, but I'm running into some problems.
This cpu did 4.5GHz with ease on the 780, however right now I'm struggling with 4.1 GHz.
The problem seems to be that the only way I can get past 400FSB is with the 400MHz Strap and the 4:3 divisor.
The only problem with that is I am then limited to ~430 FSB (DDR 1146).
I would like to use the 1:1 divisor and drop my multi, but if the FSB is at all over 400, with the 1:1 divisor the MB will not post.
The LCD freezes at "DET DRAM".
Any suggestions?
Here is my working config...changing the divisor to 1:1 again results in no post.
Thanks for the helpCode:Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
FSB Frequency: 430
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1146Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 5
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5
2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 4
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 5
Write to Write Delay (D): 6
3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay: 16
Read to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 6
All PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
PCIE Frequency: 100
CPU Voltage: tried 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10
CPU GTL Reference (0): +20
CPU GTL Reference (1): +20
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20
CPU GTL Reference (3): +20
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Up PL to 10 for now. 10 is lowest you can go 1:1. Maybe some more vNB will help. Also set DRAM CLK Skew to advance 250Quote:
Originally Posted by Codeman05
I can't lough about that anymore. The board, for its price tag.. is simply just crap at all. DFI boards do better FSBs, cost less and also have a better soundcard. it is frustrating to see that asus doesn't take care about their RoG line...Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
I too am a little disappointed with the board's performance. For the price, it's very disappointing. I think with the ROG line, Asus have tried to entice fanboy gamers rather than legitimate, skilled overclockers. Take a look at the 'Level up' promo video on the drivers DVD that came with the mobo, and I believe the demographic Asus have aimed the board at becomes clear. I saw it weeks after I bought the board when I installed asus probe, and thought "oh no". I honestly believed it when Asus said RoG was for serious overclockers, but sadly it seems like it surely is not. Perhaps the Rampage Extreme is good though, but this board is weak, and there are many other P45 boards that can do as well as it, and cost less.
However there is no P45 or X48 board currently out I'd spend any money on. The Rampage Formula doesn't do it for me, it struggles to get a quad over 495 FSB, and seems flimsy in construction with poorly designed heatsinks sporting plastic pushpin retainers, and a bios lacking the depth of control I'd like to see. The UD3P looks like the cherry picked boards one or two reviewers got are ok, but the retail ones are nothing special, and the recent failures of a few boards taking the cpu's with them is very disconcerting. The Biostar boards are too lacking in features and have too coarse voltage adjustments to use 24/7, and the P5Q range have poor quality control and exhibit erratic behaviour. DFI's latest X48 or P45 offerings have not turned out to be impressive either (all the DFI P45 does well is SPI 1M,a nd the X48 is just bad.
If Asus made a board that was identical to the Rampage Extreme in hardware and bios options but had DDR2 instead, I'd probably go for it, but sadly they don't. Trying to choose a good board these days is pretty much impossible.
The MIIF is ok for a 24/7 system, but it's nothing special like it was cracked up to be.
EDIT - if I were to buy another board, I'd probably get the Rampage Formula, as it comes the closest to what I want in a board. I probably wouldn't be 'happy' with it though.
Need Advice on getting past 3720MHz with my Q6700. BIOS is 1307, memory is G.Skill PC28800 (2x2GB). System is water cooled so keeping the heat in accpetable ranges is not an issue. 3720Mhz (8x465) is rock solid at current settings. I haven't been able to get stable at any settings that result in a cpu speed greater than that. Ultimately, I'd like to hit 4MHz or a little higher maybe 9x445. The only seetings I have adjusted beyond those below is the vcore, and I've had it up to 1.5v with no stable success. Any help/ideas would be appreciated.
Code:Processor: Q6700
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1119MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto
Performance Level =
PCIE Frequency : 100
CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5265
FSBT : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.1265
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1265
CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto
Load Line Calabration : Auto
CPU Sread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
You're already pretty much at the max acceptable vcore for 24/7 and you said you hadnt gained anything by increasing it to 1.5v. Your vNB is very low though I'm actually surprised your stable at those settings now. First we can eliminate the ram and leave it 1:1 and find max cpu speed.
Try these settings, Ive made changes in bold:
Processor: Q6700
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 470
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Dram Read Training : disabled
MEM OC Charger : disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Performance Level = 10
PCIE Frequency : 100
CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5265
FSBT : 1.25v
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.3v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1265
CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto
Load Line Calabration : enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : disabled
If your cpu has a 9x multiplier you could try this for 3.8GHz
Processor: Q6700
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 423
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-846MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Dram Read Training : disabled
MEM OC Charger : disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Performance Level = 10
PCIE Frequency : 100
CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5265
FSBT : 1.25v
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.3v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1265
CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto
Load Line Calabration : enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : disabled