Tried it, and it didnt do the trick. Gets me in to the desktop, but the its BSOD or freeze and reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Factotum
Upped the mem volt one notch but same happend again.....
Tried it, and it didnt do the trick. Gets me in to the desktop, but the its BSOD or freeze and reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Factotum
Upped the mem volt one notch but same happend again.....
Added zlojack's suggestions to the ones I got from Factotum and voilà I get inn.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Seems its the tRAS that needs to go to 18 and not 15 to boot.
Ill keep on playing some more...
Thanx guys:clap:
Look at the areas in BOLD i edited for you. Give them a try and let us know if you get any further or actually stable.
Look mainly into RAM, 4x1g or 2x 2g is a load on the NB, Also, limit use of performance boosters in beginning. Light or disable is best for stability.
Just try to keep NB cool and you should be fine, about just under 50c under (46c idle) loading is OK, less is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArneAnd
Good luck.
Just got my new q6700
pop'd it in and when it boots I get the cpu init on the lcd poster, and the computer then cycles booting,
powers up for a few seconds and then shuts off, then powers up then off, over and over.
doubled checked the install, its 100%
Am I missing something or is the chip dead?
Never mind
Seems in my haste, it was operator error :shakes:
This happend to me when I removed a Q9450 to replace w/ 64nm E6750. I was on BETA BIOS v1004. Not sure what really solved it, but my BIOS just became buggy ever since the switch, yet whan on the Q9450 for over 2 months it was fine other then the limit of OC ability (CPU limit, not mobo).
I disconnected evrything except GPU, CPU, and 1 stick of RAM cause I was also now getting the DET_RAM bug and occassional CPU_Int message. It took several clear of CMOS and I even reflashed BIOS and it finally got half way back to normal, NO more CPU_Int but I randomly get the DET_RAM on cold wake up from S4 (S3 never works) but waiting a few seconds seems to warm it up so a reset kicks right back in to as normal and resumes just fine. This used to happened once in a blue moon on my BETA v0903 outfit.
I also had to do some basic manual OC profile settings to get her to boot stable and then fine tune. use the F1 to enter set up and make basic settings , save to profile and continue. at least you can keep going back on lock ups.
Not sure it's the same but hope it helps.
I was really bumed at first, but I pop'd it out and back in and the bugger booted right up.
Cant get 3.8GHz, to bad my VID is a crappy 1.325.
I can however get a nice 450x8@1200ram ( priming now) with decent volts 1.50v actual and full load 58c, so I am happy with that.
I was hoping that the 10 multi would give me a 4.0GHz quad core 24/7 setting but I guess its not to be.
Seems I will have to sell a kidney and grab a QX for me to achive my goal. I am torn between a C2D or a Quad for my daily use, I love the bandwidth the wolfdale gives me, but I miss the raw power of a quad. Maybe I should go AMD:rofl:
In regards to your S3/S4 issue I have for the first time had S3 fail, OCCT was running and it would not recover from S3, black screen only, I had to reset to get the rig back, first time its ever happend, I will do some testing this weekend regarding S3/S4 and see what I can come up with for my settings and share my results.
please menn........answer my PM msj :(:(:(:(:( I need help with my Overclock :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I'm doing up some settings now I'll pm you shortly, Sorry for the delayQuote:
Originally Posted by ShArKo
We'll get that chip running right:up:
Thanks man........Im runing my PC in stock now :down::down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
this sucks.......I don´t like see my PC runing at 3GHZ (stock) I need at lees 4GHZ :p::p:
I threw my Q6700 back in my rig tonight and I'm testing it out at 9x425 to see if it can handle it with decent volts and temps. If all goes well, my QX9650 might be for sale. (Not selling because I want to, selling because the CRA just sent me a bill for a large sum of money :mad: because they overpaid me on my tax return two years ago)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
So far it's the Q6700 is going strong at 1.448 small fft at 3.825
currently i'm in the market for a new CF capable board as my iX38 has some boot issues with 2 cards (every 3rd-4th boot the cards don'T init, fans stay at 100%, no image) but p45 seems to be a bit disappointing (see performance comparison p45/x48 crossfirt).
are there any real benefits of flashing the X48 bios and what is the difference between the maximus and the P5E???, what is the max FSB for 45nm dualcores and vdroop with these cpus???
BTW i use an E8400 which is kinda limited by my aircooling right now and i had no time to test it with my watercooling before disassembling it :shrug:
another question: how hot does this thing get ???
guys i cant sit here and read thru 230+ pages.
are we still on 1201 bios ?
i am happy where i am so i dont really need to update the bios but just curous since an update hasnt come out in a while.
Yes 1201 is still the latest releaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Hey guys!
So I just updated my motherboard BIOS from ver.907 to ver.1201
And now the overclock settings I've been using won't work anymore, my comp just keep crashing :(
These we're the settings;
Which settings I should go with to hit at the very least 3.6ghz :sQuote:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 423
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 846
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.38175
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
E8400 SLAPL FPO/BATCH # Q748A144
1201 only lasted on my computer for about 4 or 5 day. Then I have a corrupt CMOS, and had to restore from the retail cd. Back to 0907
How I do that?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
I too just gave a Q6700 a try. You almost seem to be one of the lucky ones with these newer batches. I guess there is a reason they are so cheap now...:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Hi I'm new to communicating on forums, so please feel free to inform me if I'm violating forum etiquitte.
I've been trying to get my system stable for some time now, and, while Windows boots fine, I get frequent BSOD's, mostly when resuming from sleep, but not limited to that. I have run the minidumps through windbg, and the BSOD's seem to be coming from myriad, unrelated sources. I have feared for a while that I am just really good at frying RAM with this board.
Therefore, since I just got my mushkin ram back from an RMA and I don't want to fry it again, I was wondering if someone could evaluate all of the BIOS options available to a maximus formula owner (401, 907, 1201, rampage conversion) because I have gotten mixed messages and want to pick the most stable bios out there.
I think centralizing this information could help a lot of people. thanks.
Arlak do you run Loadline calibration on or off ? if on up the vcore a bit and turn it off... this is the biggest source of all BSOD on these boards... secondly for ya ram be carefull as the board overvolts the ram dimms so for 2.0 volts plz set 1.92 or such...
Quote:
Originally Posted by arlak
Curcial says that Dram Static Read Control should be disabled, the ram dosent like it.
I dont think this chip is going to stay. Its not bad but I'm not overly happy with it, I also just flashed back to a Maximus bios and I can say 1201 is a dog of a bios, WOW is it slow compared to RF 403. Going to flash back to a Rampage bios and retest the chip. I did however only require 1.48 volts for 450x8 on the Maximus bios tho compared to a 1.50 for the same clocks on the Rampage.Quote:
Originally Posted by erocker
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/6700.png
BIOS 1201
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.49
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
You can just flash back to 0907 with a USB Flash Drive. Put the 0907.bin file on the flash drive. Reboot and hit ALT F2 I beleave. Follow the directions from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamb
AsusUpdate did all that for me without any problem ^.^! Just had to find there was an option to downgrade a BIOS,Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
thanks tho!
1201 beta is garbage for me, this is only in beta form correct? I went back to 1102 and all is well, all mobo settings are stock, manually set lowest volts for everything and it takes my e3110 to 4.1 prime stable for 8 hours, my p35 wouldnt do it at 1.35 at 4050mhz.
I guess I willl fiddle some more, I got a hair across my ass to buy 2x4850's and I wanted a true X-fire mobo, i nailed this puppy for $140 shipped open box from mwave, it arrived with EVERYTHING, look brand new, static bag sealed and all.
perhaps I will try that bios version, I was running Rampage bios for awhile so I have been away from Maximus bios since 1004 , the performance of this bios 1201 is crap imo, slow slow slow is all I can say for MF1201, stability is there or seems to beQuote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
any tricks to running rampage bios? any benefits? the 1201 made me hugely unstable for whatever reason.
1102 slight improvement
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../test16700.png
Rampage allows for better ram sub timing and increased bandwidth, boot time is up and imo overall has a "faster" feel to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rattle
I would recommend trying it , little to no effort switching from one to the other
guess I am gonna go for it :)
well the rampage flash worked, sweet
thanks for this thread
Hey Grnfinger, I see a small increase in bandwidth and it lowered latency a tad. I also noticed you were able to lower your timings a notch. You deffinitly attribute this to 1102? Are you able to eek out a little more on your 6700?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
My problem with my Q6700 is I have a hard time getting it stable above 3.4 @ 1.31v. I'm sure if I took the time (and maybe a little help from you ;) ) I could take it up to 3.6 like yours with some tweaking and a bios update (currently 907). But it just doesn't seem that these newer 6700 do 3.8 real easy. My VID is 1.27. Maybe you could give me a hand when I get a little extra time to frick with it?
usually the native bios is best lol
im at 219, and there arent any issues
On the Asus website, if they say, "Memory capability enhanced".
this is what changes once you update the bios
Refresh Period (tREF) Goes from 16383T to a lower 3120T on your memory
This wil enhance memory BW by a littttle bit, but yea if you dont manually tweak your memory once you in windows updating should be fine
1102 is faster imo, boot time is much faster as well. I can lower timing where 1201 I would get a det dram hang if I drop'd timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by By0T0xN
Post your current bios setup and we can see if adjustments can be made.
I can hit 9x425 but I'm not happy with the amount of vcore
Will do, but probably not until tonight. Got to go to work now.
I know this is an extreme OC tread and most OC for the max scores. However, at some point, some of US, (especially ME) want a blend of good OC, yet stable timings. The reality is, those few score numbers do not warrent the the loss of stability when it comes to editing. I dont concider gaming as big a deal because afterall, it's just a game, and unlike that big movie edit or photo edit, you can't often go back to the same level.
So with this, who here can confirm a stable daily BIOS w/ complete ACPI support of S3/S4 of either MF or RF?
I use my rig 24/7 capping , encoding, ect...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
ALL my settings are stable. I use S3 only and I have only had the video resume hang once with OCCT, and it was due to a lock up from ram timing.
Seems I cant use 4-4-4-12
I have tried to get it to hang again but I cannot, only if I repeat the setup that made OCCT crash and that is the only app that hangs.
So I backed off the ram speed to 1080 , changed timing to compensate and now I can run my Q6700 at 450x8 with 1080 ram 5-4-4-12 and OCCT no longer hangs when the monitor goes to power save.
I am currently trying S4 and S3/S4 combo and see how they work.
I have returned to a Maximus bios, 1102. I found 1201 a huge pos.
I can say this, Rampage is a better bios hands down. Boot time is much faster and its a superior bios in all respects. From ram timing to overall stability.
Here are my bios settings you asked for Grnfinger. Not much to it, which is probably some of my problem. Wouldn't mind running @ 3.6. Don't think my ram can go to much further with out upping the voltage at current settings. Would love a little help if you can spare the time. Thanks.
PHP Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.33125v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5...embenchnk5.jpg
WOW alot of auto settings there:DQuote:
Originally Posted by By0T0xN
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level 0
CPU Voltage : Set what you need here 1.40?
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
And you are suggesting Bios 1102? I'm @ 907 right now. Haven't changed it due to it being rock solid right now. I'm Prime stable 24hr and I'm running two SMP clients w/affinity changer and one GPU client as well 24/7 no issues since the gpu client came out on the 19th.
try 907, if your happy with it then leave it alone
like your thinking,.. thanks.
I'm thinking about flashing to RF 0403...
Is it better than 0308?
imo yes it is the best so farQuote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Alright...here we go then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I'm trying to flash my maximus to rampage but keep getting a 'unable to open rom file' error.... Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Tried both iRF0308.rom and iRAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0308.rom.....! WTF?
Make sure your using one of the provided AFUDOS programs on the first page of this thread. Also follow the instructions as well so you use the proper switches on AFUDOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talbo
I'd rename the ROM file to something shorter too like RF0308.ROM.
I got it to work with RF0403, but memory bandwidth is actually worse than the MF0907 bios I had on earlier!!!
Usually initially it is. Now comes the real tweaking with all the extra memory options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talbo
I had the same problem. Start playing with the PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talbo
Hey guys and gals, first post on this forum and looking for help and advice. I want to use this board for my first ever build with an e8400, along with 2x HD4850's. I'll also be using two hard drives in a RAID 0 configuration. Can anyone summarize -
- What is good memory for overclocking with this board? I wanna hit 4ghz on my E8400 if possible.
- Does RAID 0 work well on this board and is it a relatively easy process for a first time builder?
- What are the temperatures like on the board and is 4ghz possible with good air cooling?
- Any specific air cooling devices that fit easily on this board, are effective and will not involve removing anything would be great
Finally, thankyou in advance for any help I get :)
My E8500 temps seem to be a bit high whether I'm using my current Xigmatek S1283 or my Tuniq Tower (temps are actually about 1C higher on the TT). The temps were taken using Core Temp 0.99.
Ambient room temp = 23C
Idle temp = 56C
Load temp = 68-70C (prime blend)
vCore = 1.22v
My old Q6600 G0 ran cooler at 3600 than my 8500@3825. The only difference was the memory (I was using 4x1GB Ballistix Tracers with the Q6600). Nothing else has changed when testing--all the equipment is the same outside of the coolers. I'm even using a stronger fan than the stock 1283 unit.
Here are my BIOS settings:
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http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...5/IMG_1886.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...5/IMG_1887.jpg
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http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...5/IMG_1889.jpg
That doesn't sound right at all. What's the TjMax for your CPU? What temps do you get when you use Real Temp? I noticed that some other CPU utils listed my temps as 10 degrees higher than they actually are. Real Temp use the correct TjMax value to show the real temps on each core.
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeOnMars
Hey guys, any chance of getting some help and advice on the above..thanks.
Core Temp shows the TjMax as 105C.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scyphe
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...--CoreTemp.jpg
Here's what Real Temp shows:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...--RealTemp.jpg
I'm using the G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-8500 kit and running at 1081 MHz using only 2.00v. It's on sale at Newegg for $89.99, free shipping. I can tell you that Raid 0 works just fine. I have two separate striped arrays (see my sig). I can easily run 4GHz but OCCT crashes my E8500 because of high temp readings (something I'm still looking into as you can see by my posts).Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeOnMars
As far as coolers go, the Tuniq Tower's a tight fit but entirely possible. My Xigmatex HDT-S1283 has a bit more clearance but I recommend attaching the fan after installing the heatsink on the CPU.
OK, started playing with PL and now I'm getting results :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by OVERK|LL
Hmm, after googling around a bit it seems E8200/E8400/E8500 all use a TjMax of 95c. That would mean your temps are shown 10 degrees higher than what they actually are. Seen posts about Real Temp having the correct TjMax as opposed to Core Temp. It does make sense because idling @ 56C with your setup is very very unlikely. When I first got my Wolfdale I experienced the same thing: "What the hell, idling at 48C". After some research here in the XS forum I learnt that most CPU temp utilities used the old 65nm TjMax values.Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
Source: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...28&postcount=2
Get PLL of auto,Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
FSBT 1.40 is the max for your chip, this board overvolts FSBT, I would lower that to 1.24 or there abouts.
to much FSBT is a 45nm killer.
Why do you have your NB volts so high?
You should set values for the rest of your bios options AUTO is not good imo.
I've lowered the FSBT, though on AUTO (1.33v) it's well within spec. I'll have to tweak the NB voltage. I left it there because I was running my FSB up very high to see what the CPU could handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
What overall settings would you recommend? Perhaps you can pm them to me.
- About the ram I can confirm what NLight95 said. I have the same ram and it`s running 1081 at 2,0V, too. The highest blend-test-stable clock I reached so far was 1111Mhz at 2,1V.Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeOnMars
- Raid 0 is working fine for me with this board since I got it. I had 3 different HDDs in Raid 0 and the only problem I had was with the 2x Samsung F1 320GB. They would not be recogniced during post every boot, sometimes one of the two HDDs wouldn`t be recognized and I had to reboot and then everything was fine. But that :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed me up after a few weeks ;)
2x Samsung T166 and 2x WD AAKS had no any problems in Raid 0.
light95. those temps look reallly wrong, have you checked that there is sufficiant airflow in your case? (i know it sounds stupid)
and that your cooler is properly Fitted, you can also remove the cooler and check if its not a fualty cooler with a concave bottom.
thats all i can think of :? i dont thnk its your settings
I bought maximus formula, Q9450 and 4Gb Mushkin SP2-6400+ DDR2 800MHz (5-5-5-18)
First, I dont know should I flash to Rampage formula with 0403 bios or just update maximus formula bios 1102 or 1201 wich one do you prefer?
I want to OC Q9450 little, about 3.2GHz first, do I need to put some voltage or can i OC to 3.2GHz easy, just put 400FSB
I read that Maximus formula adds way too much voltage? Can i just put AUTO all or can i OC 3.2GHz with default voltages?
MF bios 1201 is crap STAY AWAYQuote:
Originally Posted by strookeri
1102 is rather decent and yeilds slightly better bandwidth than Rampage 403 bios.
I would recommend against setting AUTO values, if you search this thread you will find some q9450 settings you can try
Hey GRN have a friend from TPU trying to flash his maximus can ya give him a hand pLease.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Sure , I'll need a linkQuote:
Originally Posted by trt740
im going to try to flash the p5q-e to mfII tonight ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
the dual bios makes this almost risk free. :p:
btw im still waiting on asus rma to get my maximus back :(
Let me know how you make outQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
I'm shopping for a new board now, MFII is looking real good to me altho the Rampage Extreme almost made me mess my pants:shocked:
So I'm kinda undecided on what to do. If I can save a few bucks and get the same performance on a cheaper board then I will do it and spend the cash on a xfire setup. 2x3870x2 sounds good to me.
it's cold storm on this thread http://forums.techpowerup.com/showth...=54058&page=23Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
New Rampage bios 0406... gives more fsb... no issues reported so far. As usual, you flash at your own risk. http://kielbaski.com/pmp/MB/ASUS_X48...rmula-0406.zip
So I sat down today and decided it was time to OC my Q6600 to the big 3.6 GHz. i set the BIOS to 400 MHz FSB, made sure all my RAM settings were correct according to mushkin, and booted up. mobo posts everything as fine, but windows instantly BSOD's on startup. Any common causes of this problem? I was thinking it might be related to CPU voltage or the FSB strap, but i don't really know enough about them to be comfortable tweaking them on my own.
I have the same problem w/ my E8500. I can do 450x9.5 w/ 1.32v Prime stable but get temps of 38/76 idle /load. I've reseated my CPU, heatsink and checked if the surface was flat. I've tested my mobo w/ a e8400 and temps were way better. One thing I've noticed is E8500 has a vid of 1.165v instead of 1.125v like E8400.I've bought mine @ Newegg and it was OEM week Q817. It boots @ 465x9.5 but I don't want to overheat it anymore. I'm thinking about RMA but the problem is at stock temps are normal which means it's not defective, just OC's bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
Anyone tried the new 0406 bios ???
NLight, I had all sorts of trouble with the Rampage 0403 bios flash on my E8400 and Maximus Fornula. The temps were too high and I couldn't pass the OCCT test. I went back to 0401 and my temps went down and I have a good clock @4006 Mhz. The 0403 seems to work best with quads from what I read. I don't know about the new 0406 bios I just read about. I might try it soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by NLight95
Post your bios settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by arlak
bios 0406 is not compatible with raid-controller adaptec 3405. computer does not start, the inscription on the LCD poster CPU init, and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
hi guys,
i need an info about E8500 on Maximus Formula.
A friend bought an E8500 and tried it on the Maximus, when he put it on it was giving 50°C as CPU temperature both in the bios and on Asus Probe (idle temp). He checked if he placed a wrong amount of thermal paste on the cpu, but it was ok, tried to change kind of paste too (MX-2, Zalman) but the result was the same. He tried to check the core temps (with RealTemp and Coretemp with 95°C of TJMax) and they were lower than what Asus Probe was showing. He wrote to the shop's assistance and they told him it was because of the Maximus Formula's sensors, and that if he would RMA it they would send him the cpu back because of no problems in it. The previous owner had it on a P35 board (don't know which brand) but he said he didn't have this problem. Trying the Sensor Test in RealTemp the sensors seem to work fine both @default and in overclock, just the idle temp is a little bit high (expecially for a 45nm cpu with just 1.03volts), in the Bios and Asus Probe (and everest too, but just in the CPU temp, not in the cores).
so the question is: is it true that this depends on the Maximus Formula sensors as the shop said? or it's something about the cpu? need some reply from someone with E8x00 cpu on Maximus :) thanks in advance.
EDIT: reading in the previous page it seems that it's not just my friend's case... as someone else said, maybe what the shop said is true and maybe Asus Probe and Bios reports the temp with a TJmax of 105°C (65nm value)... and this is why the temps are reported so high.
Well now I have a 8400 running on MF bios 1102 temps are very good and acurate 30c idle and 55c load 478x9@1.40vCore. Everest and coretemp both read the temps correctly. Asus anal probe is crap, if you have an older version of everest it will read them wrong. Version 4.50.1330 is very acurate for 45nm cpu's, coretemp can be adjusted to the proper tjmax by editing the settings file tjmaxoffset= ( add whatever value )Quote:
Originally Posted by crash2k
ok, so if anybody here is wondering if when you flash your motherboard to a rampage will asus honor a rma if it goes dead? the answer is YES. just dont tell them you flashed it ;)
new mobo on its way to me now :)
This is good news.
Have flashed now. And running 500x8 without any problems. Haven´t tried the bios more then that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Factotum
Another vote for the 1201 beta bios to be a dud. I had constant memory errors and blue screens with that bios. Rolled back to 1102 and its been smooth running since. Is there any advantage of switching to the rampage for me if 1102 has been working OK? I'm not currently overclocking the CPU, but would like to eventually.
I find that 1102 is about as fast as Rampage 403, if your running 4GBs or more and want to overclock your ram alot Rampage will be a better choice for maximum performance / bandwidth. If your looking for a average overclock then I see no benifit. Others will disagree I'm sure but I have spent the last week comparing closely MF1102, MF1202 and RF403 and with exception to 1201 being a pos 1102 is right onQuote:
Originally Posted by NeoRecon
:shakes:
Heh, so delusional. :rolleyes:Maybe you don't have the right ram for 1201...I've been using it since day one without single issue.;)
You must realize by now that most bios releases are for compatibility issues, so don't knock the only bios that works with 2GB Micron sticks, PLS!!!(1201 provides a TREF change that accounts for the poorer performance, also sorts mem compatibility issues)
:up:
I'm still awaiting a bios for 2gb Hynix DIMM support. :shakes:
I checked 1201 and 0403. Even 4GB is about the same. They are close enough that if I did several tests, the averages would be about the same. I get almost exactly 10GB/s on R/W/C with either at sigged E8400. At this time, I do not see a benefit with my setup on Rampage. I don't see any penalty either, so I'm still running Rampage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Can anyone recommend a program that will read my voltages? I have an older beta of everest that is not showing much and asus pc probe is useless.
Check the beta everest thread here...everest has been detecting all voltages as pc probe does for some time now.
BUt everest will use lots of cpu-time for that monitoring...pc probe seems the "lightest" app so far...in other words, stability testing while everest is open is not test stability..it's testing stability with everest running!
which version of pc probe? 1.04.29 shows very little info.
I have 2x2GB power chips and 2x1GB D9's so I see no reason to fault my hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
I have recently went back to MF bios the tref change has been present since bios RF401 and is not there with MF1102, the only reason for MF1201 I believe is compatability with Crucial ram altho I could be mistaken.
I felt the same as you no real benifit or penalty, but I was going to part with my board and flashed back to MF, so playing around with MF bios 1102 I noticed I need less voltage for my Q6700 to be stable so I went with that untill there is a real performance benifit with Rampage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
Can you comment on experience with MF1102 and S3 sleep state? I've read of some problems with some of the bios and would appreciate your first hand experience. Currently running with 907 and have problems with some hardware coming out of S3--CF card reader not recognized and MF included soundcard not working. No other real issues but I am not overclocking either.
Thanks in advance.
Question that maybe someone can help me out with-
My comptuer will run stable for two days, then at random times, it will just crash... doesn't shut down, the USB and video just dies along with audio, however the comptuer still stays on and all the fans keep spinning. When this happens, if I remove the RAM from its slots and swap them around, it boots up fine and will run perfectly again.
I ran Orthos Stable at stock settings with a QX9650 for 4 hours, MEMtest comes up fine. The RAM is Corsair Dominator DDR-800 4-4-4-12... all settings are proper in bios.
This isn't killing me, but its a bit annoying. Any ideas?
Just wanted to say thanks to all the contributors on this thread, so much sound advice and good ideas floating around :) Especially want to thank grnfinger, you've put an astonishing ammount of work into this thread and motherboard, you ought to be very proud of what you've done here.:up:
Anyway, I had this old Q6600 G0 for quite some time now and its always been a right pain to get it to clock, but after inspecting the results and ideas you guys have been putting forward I finally achieved an OC I'm happy with, the temps are on the high side due to the 32c+ ambient and I think the loop needs to be cleaned and maintained. Theres still a lot of work to do, I'm sure I can get a higher clock speed from the CPU and/or pull the timings down a bit, but I think I have a good starting point. If anyone can see an obvious area to improve then please let me know.
Once again, thanks and keep up the good work.:cool:
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Well I think I may need new memory. My Crucial Ballistix Tracer's are not stable regardless of settings. Is one set more stable than the others? I'm currently running them at 800Mhz.
2 - 8500's
2 - 8000's
I've set the DRAM at about 2.14 which tests out at about 2.2V (the recommended voltage) I've also left it set at auto.
I can go anywhere from 4-12 hours and then I'll bluescreen with a 'memory' error.
I've been looking at the G.Skill options that are 2GB sticks so I'd drop down to 2 instead of 4 stick and still maintain 4GB.
I've also read that the Crucials that are single sided are the issue? and that If I can get the double sided ones I'll be in better shape.
Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Have you run memtest to see if one or more of the sticks is bad?
Hello
I just swapped my 4x1gb Ballistix PC8500 ram to 2x2gb Dominator PC8500 ram to fix my system hang problems. But it still dident slove it I always get 1 crash when the system hangs and I need to force reboot no bsod nothing like that just freeze screen. I have been trying 1 millon settings and still no go I having the feeling that it might be a good idea to get a X48 moderboard but I am not sure. Always after 1 hang it runs fine horus after that the system is:
Q9450@3600mhz 1.23v(100% prime blend and small ffts stable even tryied OCCT ran smooth for 2 hours) max temp around 50c with realtemp it is watercooled.
Asus maximus X38 modded to rampage 0403 bios
2x2gb Dominator PC8500 ram
2x Powercolor 3870s in crossfire only one with modded bios might this be it?, both run @850/1271 and I always get the damn atikmdag problem in same games.
Tagan Easycon 580watt PSU should be enough I heard alot of times.
3x hdds, 1x velociraptor 300gb, 1x 500gb WD sata, 1x 250gb WD sata
1x Samsung Dvd recorder
Bios settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 103(tried 100-110 not diffrence over 110 and it dosent boot)
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 4
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : 7 (tried alot of other settings but only boots in 7 otherwise blackscreen)
CPU Voltage : 1.23785v(1.23v load) (tried up to 1.3 no diffrence)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59v(tried from 1.4v-1.65 no diffrence)
DRAM Voltage : 2.04(2.1v real) (tried 1.90v and that makes the system completly unstable)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36v(Everest and bios says 1.26v so it should be fine or should I not trust Everest and bios?)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.5v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto(tried 0.63x but crashed on windows vista boot logo)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x( Tried alot of diffrent but still crashing)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v
NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Plz anyone got any ideas är should I just sell the crap and by a P5Q that seems really good, plz guys I am getting crazy here and I dont really have the money to buy a new mobo, also forgott to mention both gfx and NB is watercooled max NB temp os around 40c max load and gfx around 45c load?
//Aqua
No need to sell the board just yet:)Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaRelliux
A little more info if you dont mind, what bios version are you running?
I think the Dominators need 2.2 volts ( or atleast mine do) so if you set 2.12 in bios you should get 2.2volts actual, try that and see if it improves
anything.
Your timings looks alittle off, try 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3
Please post back results, with alittle effort I'm sure stability is right around the corner.
The 2GB modules shouldn't need that much voltage.
I have run 8 gigs of it at 5-5-5-15-3-60 PL=7 on the 266 strap with 1128 MHz with the volts set to 2.0 in bios. Try that (sometimes a different strap can actually help)
I have tried the 266 strap a few times with little to no successQuote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
would you mind posting the first half of your bios settings? :)
I would like to squeeze a few drops more from my ram 4GBs at 1080 is kinda slow:shakes:
Anyways the chip is out and siting on my desk, it will be sadly missed but the Q9550 will definately help me get over my sorrow.
Good news :up: I'm looking forward to it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Anyway, let me check those bios settings for you and post them. I'll have to remember which ones passed Memtest86+ (I should really write this stuff down)
I use 0403 bios, but is freeze screen always becuase of ram and reboots because of cpu or did I get something wrong here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Here's what I used:
Bios settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1128
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Then the extra sub-timings for the Rampage: 14-5-1-6-6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled(tried Enable no diffrence)
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate/Strong
Performance Level : 7 (I had it at 6 for FSB at 425 + 1133MHz RAM on my QX9650, but for 450 it had to go to 7)
All pull-ins disabled.
These settings were pretty decent and stable, but I hadn't really played with them enough in terms of tightening timings to squeeze a bit more out of the sticks.