Ah!
I feel a bit dumb now :P lol
Thanks for the quick replies! Will have to get myself a QX series processor once they come down in price!
Cheers
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Ah!
I feel a bit dumb now :P lol
Thanks for the quick replies! Will have to get myself a QX series processor once they come down in price!
Cheers
Quote:
Originally Posted by evaninspain
the manual for the IP35 Pro is excellent with text description and diagrams to show the correct orientation...the audio, 1394 and USB cables can only be plugged in one way.
i think i will go back to 16.B04 to get my multi back above default....it is a bit frustrating that abit can not solve the unlocking of the full multi range of the QX9650.Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
i, too, had a similar problem with vista64 with re-activation...i had to do it by phone since i swapped out some hardware, like the VC...i probably complicated my problem by swapping PCIe slots between the VC and Areca card since the current VC has a larger backside heatsink which interferes with my NB cooling fan.
Case: Cooler Master PraetorianQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Front panel has the following cables:
1) One thick grey cable with blue connector at end (connector has 5 pins on one side and 4 on the other). It looks like this might be the IEEE1394.
2) Two medium grey cables with a black connector at end (same type of connector as #1 above with 5 pins on one side and 4 on the other).
3) Two small grey cables with individual pins at the end with the following labels:
Small grey cable #1
a) MIC-POWER
b) MIC-IN
c) GROUND
Small grey cable #2
a) GROUND
b) R-OUT
c) L-OUT
d) L-RET
e) R-RET
Is my front panel a (HD AUDIO) or a (AC’97 AUDIO)? This doesn’t match up with the manual instructions on page 1.15 (section 1.8.6)..
I also have the standard rear panel that comes with the Abit IP-35 Pro MB that has three thick cables, two with red connectors and one blue connector
AND, I’m trying to connect a USB card reader with a single grey cable with a black connector at the end (connector has 5 pins on one side and 4 on the other).
WHERE DO I PUT ALL THESE CABLES ON THE MOTHERBOARD???
17 Beta bios:
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/9f4bcadcd3_1MB
just tried it, bios shows cpu at 57C and thats running at 2.4 stock voltage! 16b3 shows 32C... its impossible to use fanEQ when the idle temp is so high.. i'm thinking this bug is a v1 issue, i got this board soon after it came out in the UK.
I am using IP35 Pro 14 bios and E8400.I set 1.325v in bios,bios status screen show 1.18v or so,CPUZ under load show 1.15v.What is the vcore i am running?Who have vcore reading point for IP35 Pro?Under load,temp is 52 C using Xigmatek SHDT1283,180cfm NMB fan and 32 C or so ambient.Any idea of what vcore i am running?
Can you give me the link to 16 official?Need that soon.Thanks.Is it safe to flash using flashmenu?I have kill 2 IP35 E from DOS flashing,stock speed!:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/b...ro/m629b16.zip
flashing using DOS is usually safer, what are you doing (or not) that you've borked BIOS flashes on 2 boards?
evaninspain, looks like your CM probably uses AC'97 cable for FP audio.
You don't need to connect all the cables if you don't need the ports, e.g. I rarely install the PCI plate with extra USB/firewire ports.
Your USB card reader will plug into 1 of the USB headers along the bottom of the board cunningly labelled FP-USB ;)
Flashmenu is useless and an excellent way to force yourself to buy a new BIOS online. I used to use it all the time on my NF7-S back in the day and had no problems with it, but on this board its outright dangerous to include it on the CD!
Twice I had Windows crash on my WHILE it was flashing the BIOS. The first time Windows managed to come back out of the crash. The second time it BSODed right in the middle of doing its business.
The second time I lucked out since the boot block of the BIOS was functioning properly, I was able to boot the system into DOS using a floppy (which the BIOS demanded - a floppy is the only thing it'll let you boot from) and flash it properly.
I've used Flashmenu several times on the IP35 Pro without problems although I still recommend doing it in DOS.
Admittedly I use XP & I have a suspicion that it may not play as well with Vista, particularly 64-bit.
At any rate you don't want the version on the CD but 3.107.
What is going on with my mobo? I have ver 16 bios and c2d 8400 processor. Will be adding information on signature soon. My bios and uGuru shows cpu temp to be 30°C all the time. RealTemp shows 39°C. It does not change if I stress the cpu or anything. And why does cpu-z show my multiplier to be x6 when i'm not stressing cpu?
Sorry about my bad english :)
EDIT:
Got around that multiplier problem by disabling c1e and speedstep, also updated to 17 beta bios, still only temperature reading I got from processor is that 30°C. And now cpu-z shows core voltage to be 1.344V and uGuru shows 1.2 V as it should be.
3.107 refers to the latest version uGuru software (& device driver).Quote:
Originally Posted by Heidfirst
FlashMenu's latest version is 1.507:
http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/downl...ET_TYPE=LGA775
the link doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
Beta Bios Releases (includes IP-35 Pro - V1.7 Beta 02):
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=122393
went there after posting my post..got it!
I tried the new Beta Bios 17. The bios is a little different with what it displays, but other than that no changes in temp readings. I'll do some prime95 occt stress testing and report back.
I however have successful flash IP35E in window but fail 2 times in DOS.I guess i will do it in window since i am more used to that.
It seems that with the new bios that cpuz doesnt read my voltage correctly any more. Other then that havnt scene any differences. Ofcourse Im just using a B3 3220.
I get this problem every now and then, sometimes after a reboot the CPU temp will stay stuck at 30°C on my board with 16B09. What I do to fix it is power off the PSU with it's switch on the back (Or just unplug it), wait 15 seconds, then hold down the power button on the front of the computer for 15-30 seconds. Switch the PSU back in or plug it back in, and then power up the system, this should fix it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by natech
Kind of a minor annoyance, hopefully future updates will straighten that out.
Thanks for your help, but unfortunately it didn't help on my case :\Quote:
Originally Posted by HaTaX
Still getting 30°C. I think it has never shown anything else on my computer :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by natech
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaTaX
One of the sensors in the chip tends to stick in the wolfdales. Run coretemp or real temp and see if one of yours is stuck. My core #1 is stuck and doesn't change when under full load.Quote:
Originally Posted by natech
I'm not sure which sensor abit eq or the bios uses.
Real Temp 2.24 shows 39°C for both cores. And does not change :\
This is really irritating becourse this is my first WC rig and it would have been nice to get even idea of what the temp is. And how it changes if I change thermal paste to MX-2 and so on.
Do you guys think that the problem is in sensor which is located in processor? I have read many problems with wolfdale temp sensors but I'm not seeing any other with completely :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up sensor :|
i hope you are not trying to take an "IP35 Pro" beta bios and flashing it to the IP35E board!...could be the reason why you have failed two times in DOS...Quote:
Originally Posted by OC4/3
Copy of a question posted on another form:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...readid=2174615
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ip35 pro + corsair XMS2 RAM, appropriate BIOS settings?
I understand that the timing for this RAM is incorrectly detected as 5-5-5-18, but is intended to be 4-4-4-12. I've heard as well that the voltage is off too. It's been a long while since I put a machine together from scratch, and I need some hand-holding on this one.
My processor is an e8400, nothing is overclocked.
These are the options under ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES:
CAS Latency Time (tCL)
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)
RAS# Precharge (tRP)
Precharge Delay (tRAS)
(I know that these are represented by the four numbers 4-4-4-12, but there are also the following options
Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC)
Write REcovery Time (tWR)
Write to Read Delay (tWTR)
Act to Act Time (tRRD)
Read to Precharge (tRTP)
Currently, all settings above are set to 'AUTO,' by the SPD. If I manually change them, I know what to do with the first four settings, but what do I do with the other 5?
I tried to just change the first four options to 4-4-4-12, left the rest to AUTO (and I forgot to change the voltage). Windows refused to boot up, informing me that config.sys was missing or broken. changing all the settings back to AUTO allowed for a successful boot to the OS.
What are my settings? Is there an article i can read? Does anyone have this config already who could help?
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This is what memory he's probably referring to:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034
I'm using the same memory, and would also appreciate having the same information.
It seems like the bios "ought to": automatically detect and then enable the correct timing and voltage settings.
Thanks in advance.
anybody tried this yet?
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=136884
Hello, i did a small oc to 3.6ghz, stock voltage. RealTemp shows 30, 35 degrees idle, core temp and occt 40, 45 idle. Which do you think is accurate, or at least close the to the real temperature. Ambient is about 20~22. Temp in load after 1 hour of occt is 50, 52 by core temp, and 40,45 by realtemp. Also i'm getting a beep from pc speaker, nothing happens, the beep is very random very annoying. Thanks.
just ordered all my parts from newegg couple of hours ago, can't wait to pair the abit w/ the q6600, hopefully the q6600 is G0 stepping snice it's been out for awhile now. the parts i ordered are down in the sig box
well from reading lv coyote it seems most Q chips have temp reading issues with B16. You would think after months it seems they have been working on this bios 16, they something this blunt wouldnt be an issue..hope they put a new one out quick. Im still sittin on 16 because everything seems fine, besides temp inaccuracy.
and good to know that 45nm only does half multi's..wasn't aware of that. Then again I havent been paying much attention to new chips lately.
IP35 PRO inside Stacker 830 SE...inverted ATX..benching now...see you in 8-10 hrs or so
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7...utesdl6.th.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6...0095as5.th.jpg
32 minutes:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9...nutesq7.th.jpg
don't see to many BTX runners! nice set up
8 hrs on inverted ATX.....
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5...8hrsjl9.th.jpg
Now, I'll try regular ATX, or as someone says, "right side up."
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8...0097hp3.th.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3...utesoq0.th.jpg
see you in 8-10 hrs....
Cpl Ledanek- I think you have the same batch that I do (Q748). They are among the most difficult to OC from what I've read. I'm stable at 3.8GHz@1.35v, but cant get anywhere near 4GHz at stable. BUT, I'm not willing to go higher than 1.37v to try since I plan to keep this long term.
any links to this? I don't even plan to stay in the 3.6Ghz since there is no need at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
thanks for the heads up :up:
2hrs
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2...2hrsqf9.th.jpg
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ml#post3299649Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
There were some others, but I can't find them...
Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
not all 45nm processors have half multi's.
my Q chip has temp differential of 9C between each dual core set...my original QX9650 had a stuck DTS sensor which prevented me from getting an idle temp reading...once i pushed it with P95, it would respond but the overclock (and Vcore) had to be high enough to produce the heat.
i didn't see any real advantage in flashing the Pro board with the XE bios...i would imagine that it would give you the same type of performance as the Pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Quick ?, jsut realized there were two revisions of the pro. 1.0 and 1.1.
WHats the difference between the two, anyone better then the other.
Thanks
Looks to be a great cheap board. Anyone run into issues with Crossfire HD3870s on this board?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MADMAX22
capacitors and few other electronic parts.
DISCLAIMER: I'm a n00b who looked, asked around, and collected answers on the question of: Is there a temp change when the Abit IP35 PRO is placed CPU DOWN/ATX or CPU UP/reversed ATX?
Now collecting all my post, see if there is a difference in temperature, at least, maybe forgoing performance issues at this time.
IP35 PRO inside Stacker 830 SE...inverted ATX..
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7...utesdl6.th.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6...0095as5.th.jpg
32 minutes into it:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9...nutesq7.th.jpg
8 hrs on inverted ATX.....
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5...8hrsjl9.th.jpg
__________________________________________________ ___
Now, I'll try regular ATX, or as someone says, "right side up."
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8...0097hp3.th.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3...utesoq0.th.jpg
2hrs...
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2...2hrsqf9.th.jpg
Finally 14 hrs on ATX
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4...4hrssa6.th.jpg
So, is there a temp change?
But... which is the best bios (beta or not) for a q6600 g0???
It would be nice..., but it always defaults to 1.8 volts, even if your memory want's more. Most, but not all memory will allow you to boot into bios at 1.8 v, and then you can change the voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by vailr
For me, the automatic timings would work (not great, but work) with 2 sticks, but would fail totally with 4 sticks - giving me a meaningless error message about a corrupt file or something.
People on this forum aren't generally using the 1.8v memory at stock timings, and the "automatic" settings were likely focused on helping people with stock setups.
My system is much more stable with manually set timings.:)
Preaching to the choir as we presumably already all have one, but perhaps for our buddies (today only): http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=790951
Looks like Abit is dumping excess stock of IP35 Pro's to make room for the IP35 Pro XE's: ABIT IP35 Pro $100 + Free Shipping after $70 rebate @ NewEgg *TODAY ONLY* (use coupon code: mb48FS)Quote:
Originally Posted by mezryn
Should I get one now @ $100 shipped or wait for the XE's to roll out and possibly get it cheaper :shrug:
What I'd really like to know is if the Pro's will be able to handle 1600fsb in which case it would be pointless to buy an XE?
my friend has basically same setup as me and im helping him overclock but his pwm is hitting 80c lol and his pc is shutting off we turned off the temp shut off just to see if it shut off and still does so is his pwm making his pc shut off every other temp is perfect except pwm...
any advice?
Did you perform the bolt mod on the board, as well as replace that peice of plastic they call thermal interface material and replace it with some ceramic based (white) paste?
remember, the System FSB is quad pumped so 1600 mhz should be 400 actual cpu fsb...should be easy!Quote:
Originally Posted by BassKozz
no bolt mod yet i dont think he wants to do that but maybe i will get him to replace the paste, you recommend ceramic paste any other paste like maybe mx-2 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSMJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by redrumy3
at least recommend to him to add 40mm or 60mm fan to cool the PWM and NB heatsinks.
Just in case you guys aren't in the habit of checking the deals section you still have a few hours before the ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 $100 after MIR is over.
yep told him that already :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
meant to ask you Ace, is this the idea spot for the 40mm fan for the PWM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1...tip3gf0.th.jpg
OR, should I place it on top like you have yours?
Wow...one day only!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
Will this board work ok out of the box with a Q9450 Yorkfield?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
this is my suggestion since the choke coils will also get cooled....i used a plastic tie to fasten it to a heatpipe on each side or to the base legs of my TRUE.
it should since the bios code has been updated to handle wolfdales and yorkfields.Quote:
Originally Posted by tw33ter
OH...the price has gone back up to 139 after rebate....still a nice deal for an excellent board.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
you gives me an excuse to try the inverted-ATX/ATX temperature benching again :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
we all need a "cause" to do more testing:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
any suggestion for a quiet SB cooler, it tends to get warm to the touch...I know its subjective...that's why this n00b is asking :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...127-030-03.jpg
should I stay on the 40mm fan, or
go 80mm?---most 60mm are too loud, unfortunately
if you have good CFM fan on the PWM and NB heatsinks, you should not need one on the SB...besides...you do not need any higher voltage higher than 1.05 or 1.09 on the ICH, which is the core voltage for the SB chipset!...that is separate from the ICHIO which is your Input/Output voltage for the SB
I can beleive this thread is almost to 400k :eek:
anyway, I had a couple questions as every now and again like to play with the clock settings on my system.
what would you say is the upper limit on the voltave for the northbridge and MCHIO? I have gone as high as like 1.56 and 1.8 respectivly and im wondering if trying them that high is causing any damage to the board. just to be clear they are not running that high all the time but I have taken them there to see what the top end of my overclock is. i do have a fan on the northbridge but i haven't done that bolt mod yet. the fan btw is a cpu cooling fan from a P4 so i know its getting good airflow.
also in trying to overclock it seems that above 500fsb my e6550 seems to work but in a strange way, when I run orthos the cpu spikes to 100% but then drops like a second later to like 6 percent. orthos doesn't stop and the system laggs like it is under load but the control pannel does not indicate its under load nor does the temp go up in core temp. any ideas on that?
and lastly my system has around 6100hours of runtime, most of that is 24/7 every now and again the board hangs on post, either displaying nothing at all or showing my cpu as a single core. is this indicative of a failing board?
my system specs are in my sig. for reference.
what is your vcore?
Vdimm?
At least you can get there. I can't get stable above 450 regardless of RAM/Voltage/multiplier settings.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Datektrader
when you say "stable", are you talking about Prime 95 or OCCT???...what is your method to determine stable?Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
Can't believe you mean? Good mobo I guess.... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Datektrader
I have gone as high as 1.6 on my vcore and I have taken the memory as high as 2.425
my current 24/7 stable voltages are
Vcore 1.49v
DDR2 2.275v
MCH 1.25v 1.48v
ICHIO1.5v 1.70v
CPU VTT 1.31v
DDR2 REF 0%v
ICH 1.05V 1.25v
freq right now is 458x7 for the cpu and ram is on the 1:1 ratio so its like 916mhz
btw the ram is the Supertalent T8000UX2GC4
i have the latest bios
also I have the latest UGURU and it still freaks out at low temps where it goes from like 17c to 128c core temp shows it to be running at 14c idle. i have generaly found UGURU to be about 10 degrees off when its actualy displaying temps.
and the total up time i mentioned before is actually 6920h
the spikes in core % from 100% down to 6% and then back up is probably telling you that you are on the ragged edge of having enough vcore to support your overclock at 100% core engagement...OR...your FSB is outstripping the vcore availableQuote:
Originally Posted by Datektrader
your ICH is way to high...the most you should use is 1.09v
is your Vcore read from Uguru?
yea im getting them atm from Uguru
the live reading from Uguru is 1.46-47
I just turned the ich down to 1.09
also dunno if it matters much but the ram configuration is 4 sticks@1gb each
4 sticks generally require the MCH to be in the 1.5x to 1.6x range...just something to think about if it won't post or gives you a BSODQuote:
Originally Posted by Datektrader
Prim and Orthos. OCCT will run at 3.8GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I'm hesitant to run Vcore at more than 1.38 uGuru (1.36 shown on CPUZ)
3.8 ghz is a respectable overclock...stay right where you are.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 18 is # 1
Ace is right...it could be a chip issue rather than the motherboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
JMICRON JMB36X RAID Controller drivers version 1.17.33
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/jmicron.htm
Time I add more to this thread. :)
I have a question in regards to uGuru and the fan control settings. I can't seem to have my fans run with less than six volts. It is like six volts is the lowest value, but uGuru lets the user to pick a value less than six. I can tell that there is no change when I pick a value less than six volts, and the RPM's do not lower.
Has this issue been raised before? My search didn't led to much. :( I'm not too worried. I just thought that I would see that the board's control program could do other than modifications. I am running version v3104 of uGuru.
This leads me to another question: Is it just me, or is uGuru somewhat buggy software?Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
that is an old version of uguru...there is 3.107 out since about 4-6 months ago...get that version...check on the first page of this thread to see if there is a link.
EDIT:...here is the link: http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/downl...ET_TYPE=LGA775
I just ordered a X3350 to drop into my IP35 pro! It will get here on tuesday. Should I load the 16beta10 bios or the newest official one? I'm currently still running 14.
uGuru is super buggy with Vista 64. Never wants to close without a crash error...
i am using vista64 without any vista updates except for windows mail and windows defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by dstedman
i find that uguru interface will sit there...i have to use the task manager to end the process for the 32 bit uguru.exe...doing that closes it out on the desktop.
abit needs to work on that...in the 32 bit vista version, uguru works as advertised.
I'm not trying to pretend I understand you sometimes Ace:D Sometimes I really don't.:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I'm such a n00b
Don't worry I'll try to catch up to you pc-gawds:up:
Just for bling-effect vs actually helping performance, would this Evercool Serpent Northbridge Chip Cooler fit on top of the SB, if I extend the bolt further up? I know it says Northbridge...just trying to see if it would fit the SB.:rolleyes:
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5...cooleb2.th.jpg
I'm gonna have to agree with ace on this one. The SB doesn't need cooling if you've got a fan over the NB and PWM. The heatpipe will automagically take the heat off your SB and send it to the NB sink since its actively cooled as heat go to the coolest place it can. Does that make sense? I wouldn't waste money trying to cool the SB if you've already got the NB and PWM covered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
thanks ... learned something new again...awesome :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Imitation
Does anyone know how to set this up? I have a XFX PVT94PYDD4 GeForce 9600GT that has two pin cable. Trying to get sound to my TV using DVI to HDMI
starting a new bench this time with the EVGA 8800 GTX + 2 more 120mm case fans to cool things down
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9...endser5.th.jpg
Sorry Ace-a-Rue, I forgot what my BIOS was supposed to be:(
only thing I recall are:
MCH: 1.4
ICHIO: 1.65
9 X 400 = 3.6Ghz
CPU VTT:1.3
can't remember the rest:(
see you guys in 8-10 hrs or so :up:
Right now I'm stable at 3.8GHz:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
Vcore 1.3550
MCH 1.37
COUVTT 1.16
ICH 1.12
ICHIO 1.55
GTLREF 63% each
I guess I'm a little bit late to the IP35 Pro party after 240 pages. :D Finally picked one up when Newegg had the $100 after rebate one-day sale. Hasn't matched my Blood Iron for FSB but looks like it has plenty for any 8x or better multi.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5236/516x7ba7.jpg
Time to start skimming through this thread. TIA to Ace-a-Rue who seems to be shepherding everyone through using this board.
Overclocking a q6600 is very easy for me on this board and 3600 is very stable with volts like this in bios 116:
vcore:1.4675v
cpu vtt:1.27v
mch:1.37
ich:stock 1.05v
ichio:1.5v
cpu gtl ref:61 and 61
This is all great but I immediately see why Ace's tips regarding pwm and nb are so critical. PWM temp very quickly got to a scorching 89c load so I've scaled back to a more moderate 3200 for now. Tomorrow I'll remedy the problem and report back temp changes. Do you think replacing the tim and securing the sinks along with a couple spotfans will enable me to get the same 3600 with perhaps less volts?
Looks like the IP35 Pro is now right about where my Blood Iron would start getting flakey. USB connections getting kinda squirrely, but blends okay.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6508/534x7rg9.jpg
Maybe its the CPU hitting its FSB limit? I'll try to push a bit more ...
In any case though, plenty of FSB. Most people settling in with the 9x multi (and async memory speed) for their e8400 because of the heat on the PWM?:confused:
So I just got my new retail QX9650 for $700 the other day from a guy at the AnandTech trading forums in hopes of having an unlocked multiplier to suit my overclocking needs. As most of you know who also have a QX9650 and IP35 Pro, the newer BIOSes don't seem to include support for unlocked multiplier settings from Core 2 Extreme CPUs. This is a MAJOR setback for me, as the new BIOSes allow more compatibility and improvement with Wolfdale and Yorkfield processors. I've tried everything from official version 14 (9/6/2007) to the new beta 17.B02 (4/3/2008), and I have concluded that nothing above beta BIOS 16.B04 allows for an unlocked multiplier.
So here is my question: Is there any possible way to ENSURE that Abit BIOS engineers will address this major issue in the next beta revision or official BIOS release? Or is there a way around this situation that I seem to be missing? Thanks in advance.
Ok, very good results from replacing the chipset tim and adding a fan. Managed to now get PWM temps to 50c so I'm pleased. Thanks Ace! As I suspected, the cooler chipset indeed let me bring my 3600 stable vcore down a click as well so I'm loving this board. Into the case tomorrow.
I believe the IP35 Pro has a 3-pin header that's HDMI audio/SPDIF ready located near the corner of the 3rd PCIx1 slot. If you call XFX tech support they should provide you with a cable to connect your card's two-pin header to the IP35 Pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by yardi4life
You'll also need the DVI-HDMI adapter for the card (which XFX should also provide to you along with the cable) and that should do it. I have a friend with the same XFX 9600GT card and a Gigabyte DS3R who's about to try it as well.
try 16.b04, like you mentioned, to see how high on the FSB you can get the bugger;) to go...my caps out around 480 FSB (times 8)...the higher the FSB, the better write and copy speeds will be for you...it all depends what you want for a goal....most likely the upper limit for your QX9650 that you bought is probably going to be between 3.7-3.8 for prime 95 stable and maybe 4.0-4.1 for normal stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by AuDioFreaK39
i am not sure Abit will EVER make the bios to unlock the 9650 above the default multi...they are trying to please other users that have the wolfdale and lower end penryn quads....just a little bit disappointing since this board is probably the best P35 board on the street!..it is the best performance wise to the dollar ratio.
glad it has worked for you...when i did my mod and discovered how improved it was, i couldn't wait to tell everyone!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by loonym
I've had my IP35 Pro + Q6600 G0 combo now for 2 weeks, and this is my 3rd build ever. It's been both the most joyous and frustrating build ever for me. I love the board, its layout, and its straight-forward BIOS setup that puts the Gigabyte DS3 and Intel Bad Axe 2 from my previous builds to shame.
That said, I'm having major difficulty getting my 4 sticks of 1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 stable. I'll lay out my hardware setup and what I've tried.
IP35 Pro Rev. 1.1, BIOS 14
CPU: Q6600 G0 (VID: 1.2875v, below par overclocker)
H/S: Tuniq Tower 120 (not lapped :mad: )
RAM: 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800
Power Supply: Seasonic S12 650W
VGA: eVGA 8800GT
OS: Vista Home Premium x64
I loaded Vista up and ran the first week with just 2 sticks installed. I found that my Q6600 started to run into a wall around 3.6 Ghz, but can stay completely stable with decent temps (70 degrees small-fft load in Prime95) at up to 3.5 Ghz, regardless of whether it's doing 440x8 or 390x9. So I had it 12 hour small-fft Prime95 stable at 3.52Ghz (440x8) 1.4575 in BIOS (1.39v in HWMonitor under max load) and I'm happy with that considering what seems to be a sub-par G0.
Anyway... to the problem: I can't get the system stable with all 4 sticks being used at the same time. I've done extensive stress testing over the course of 4 days with them in pairs of 2, and in both sets of the IP35's DIMM slots, and so I know that the sticks and DIMM slots are all good. I doubt Vista is the problem in this case either, as it's a fresh install of x64 SP1, which shouldn't have the same 4GB RAM problem that had to be patched out of x64 RC.
Here are my BIOS voltages and and timings:
FSB/multi: Trying both 390x9 and 440x8
RAM Divider: 1:1 (so 780 Mhz or 880 Mhz depending on the configuration, both seem to be equally stable/unstable)
vCore: 1.4575v
MCH: 1.48v
CPU VTT: 1.31v
ICH10: 1.7v
ICH: 1.09v
DDR2: 2.20v
DDR2 REF: +2%
CPU GTLREF: 70% on both
RAM Timings: 5-5-5-18
C1E & EIST disabled
This is my first attempt at running 4 DIMM's in a motherboard. This is frustrating to the point where I'm considering just dropping the Ballistix and going for a 2x2GB set of Corsair or G.SKILL's, but I'd really prefer to get these Crucial's working and call it a day.
P.S. As I type this I'm actually stable for 50 mins now on the blend test at 440x8. My only new change was setting DDR2 REF to +2%. Could that have been the key? Anything else I might try from those of you with experience pushing 4 DIMM's on this board?
Also, is there any good reason for 65nm CPU users to upgrade the BIOS past 14? Or are the changes in 16 only going to be of use to the 45nm users?
the +2% is a must for reliablity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinthar
the other thing you can do is try higher MCH voltage.
anybody know when the IP45 is out? :o
Ah, thank you -- that's good to know... so far haven't encountered the blue screen since enabling the +2% DDR2 Reference voltage. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
I had a rounding error failure on Prime95 after 3 hours though, which I suspect means that I cut down the vcore on the CPU a little too much... I'm going to try setting CPU GTLREF to 72% (from 70%) and see if that stabilizes it. I know a little about the theory behind CPU GTLREF settings, though I don't know what effect they have on OCing a Q6600 on the IP35 Pro... guess I'll find out.