New Memory Tweaker for Intel Chipsets

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06-09-2007, 01:00 AM
FELIX

...this is why I use an installer since 3.2 version:
zip version don't work with X64.
06-09-2007, 01:27 AM
FELIX

Add support for P35 in this version: memset

Very special thank at The Stilt for his work on this version: :)
He help me to find some timings location (tCL & tRAS are not documented),
found the fix for Asus motherboard, and work actually for add other timings like CR
and latency. We will probably add these timings in final version...

Also I add Precharge to Precharge delay on 9xx chipsets...

Note that it's a beta,so possible bug...
06-09-2007, 01:35 AM
dinos22

let me be the say to give you the big :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
06-09-2007, 01:38 AM
rithina

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Add support for P35 in this version: memset

Very special thank at The Stilt for his work on this version: :)
He found the fix for Asus motherboard, and work actually for add other timings like CR
and latency. We will probably add these timings in final version...

Note that it's a beta,so possible bug...

Thanks for the time and effort guys. Going to try on my DQ6 and see if it works well :)
06-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Xtreme Addict

I shall try on MSI P35 Neo-F ;)
06-09-2007, 02:35 AM
tzitzos

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Add support for P35 in this version: memset

Very special thank at The Stilt for his work on this version: :)
He found the fix for Asus motherboard, and work actually for add other timings like CR
and latency. We will probably add these timings in final version...

Note that it's a beta,so possible bug...

thx felix for this version :) :) :)
06-09-2007, 03:17 AM
Xtreme Addict

It works on MSI P35 Neo-F but I can't change CAS and I hope it was purposely done :) Basic functions operates fully properly. Thanks a lot! :D
06-09-2007, 04:21 AM
Pt1t

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miravo

It works on MSI P35 Neo-F but I can't change CAS and I hope it was purposely done :) Basic functions operates fully properly. Thanks a lot! :D

Normal , on 965P it changed but that did nothing :) Now it s blocked :D
06-09-2007, 04:51 AM
lasse.j5

Work great on P5K Deluxe.

Thanks alot!
06-09-2007, 05:12 AM
Learn

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

...this is why I use an installer since 3.2 version:
zip version don't work with X64.

It was the 3.2 exe of course :rofl:
06-09-2007, 05:40 AM
Console

Does mem set work on p35 chipset ?
06-09-2007, 06:32 AM
Pt1t

Quote:

Originally Posted by Console

Does mem set work on p35 chipset ?

read this page :shakes:
06-09-2007, 06:34 AM
Viss

Thanks a lot Felix & The Stilt :clap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...memsetP35C.jpg
06-09-2007, 07:40 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pt1t

read this page :shakes:

:rofl: :D
06-09-2007, 11:59 AM
ziddey

nice. how's that biostar board? I'm thinking of picking one of them up. real cheap as always :)

edit: bleh, just checked out the discussion on rh forums. not that impressive :\
06-09-2007, 10:37 PM
1Day

Thanks you to all who made the latest version possible.
06-10-2007, 07:17 AM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Add support for P35 in this version: memset

Very special thank at The Stilt for his work on this version: :)
He help me to find some timings location (tCL & tRAS are not documented),
found the fix for Asus motherboard, and work actually for add other timings like CR
and latency. We will probably add these timings in final version...

Also I add Precharge to Precharge delay on 9xx chipsets...

Note that it's a beta,so possible bug...

thanks alot FELIX and Stilt looks fine to me

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m58s750ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._bandwidth.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...mset33beta.png
06-11-2007, 08:41 AM
d4ve

thanks a lot to Felix and Stilt for this..
Can't wait to try it on my DS3R
06-12-2007, 06:05 AM
Brama

In my Gigabyte P35-DQ6 I am not able to change the CAS, other options do work.

Thanks Felix!
06-12-2007, 06:38 AM
eva2000

I don't think CAS change in windows as ever worked on any board..
06-12-2007, 07:43 AM
Viss

I have a problem with memset 3.3 beta after flashing me P35C board.

With bios F1 memset worked fine and i got the mchbar option:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...memsetP35C.jpg

After flashing to F3b bios i cannot change any timing (system hangs when i hit apply) and i do not have the mchbar option anymore. Same settings as above except for tRRD:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...F3bmemset3.jpg

I removed & reinstalled memset but no luck. Whats new in F3b bios is this perf option (tried all 3 with same result) and a new divider, 3.20 (5/8):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6..._oc/F3beta.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/3.jpg
06-13-2007, 12:29 AM
pippo369

Quote:

Originally Posted by loc.o

I have a problem with memset 3.3 beta after flashing me P35C board.
After flashing to F3b bios i cannot change any timing (system hangs when i hit apply) and i do not have the mchbar option anymore. Same settings as above except for tRRD:

I have same problem with my DFI Infinity 965-S.
06-13-2007, 01:26 AM
memory

Quote:

Originally Posted by loc.o

I have a problem with memset 3.3 beta after flashing me P35C board.

With bios F1 memset worked fine and i got the mchbar option:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...memsetP35C.jpg

After flashing to F3b bios i cannot change any timing (system hangs when i hit apply) and i do not have the mchbar option anymore. Same settings as above except for tRRD:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...F3bmemset3.jpg

I removed & reinstalled memset but no luck. Whats new in F3b bios is this perf option (tried all 3 with same result) and a new divider, 3.20 (5/8):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6..._oc/F3beta.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/3.jpg

I have the same problem as yours:mad:
06-13-2007, 01:49 AM
FELIX

:confused: could you try this version: memset

For mchbar, it's normal that it's not appear, I disabled it...
06-13-2007, 02:48 AM
Pt1t

P35 Tweaked , really ROX :D

Thanks Felix !

http://www.pt1t.net/PI/1M_36GP_CL5_668mhz.PNG
06-13-2007, 02:59 AM
pippo369

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

:confused: could you try this version: memset

For mchbar, it's normal that it's not appear, I disabled it...

Why? :confused:
It appear in 925X mainboard but not in 965. :shrug:
06-13-2007, 07:48 AM
Brama

On 3.3 beta is present in my Gigabyte P35-DQ6 an annoying change of displayed memory MHz in the "System" rectangle.

It changes randomly between 3 values: one is correct, others are wrong.

Bye,
06-13-2007, 12:02 PM
Viss

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

:confused: could you try this version: memset

For mchbar, it's normal that it's not appear, I disabled it...

That one works fine Felix :up:
06-14-2007, 09:57 AM
G H Z

Thank you FELIX, works good :)
06-14-2007, 10:00 AM
Gautam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pt1t

P35 Tweaked , really ROX :D

Thanks Felix !

:eek: Very very fast time Pt1t! :clap:
06-15-2007, 01:30 AM
memory

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

:confused: could you try this version: memset

For mchbar, it's normal that it's not appear, I disabled it...

Thx Felix

This version works fine:up:
06-16-2007, 10:43 PM
FELIX

Here is beta2 version with Performance Level (by The Stilt): MemSet33beta2

We added Command Rate too, but it's only a Read only timings.
Also, improve reading memory frequency. :)

Warning: I don't try the Performance Level with P965, and I don't know the result.
06-16-2007, 10:47 PM
ziddey

I'm going to try this on p965 right now :)

But so far, I've noticed trtp is reading wrong. I have dfi p965, and set trtp to 4 in bios. memset32 shows 4, but 33b2 shows 2 only.

performance level seems to have no effect. not sure if it's because it's read only or what. but it showed 12 initially. I was able to drop it all the way to 1, and mbench showed no differences whatsoever.
06-17-2007, 12:04 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Here is beta2 version with Performance Level (by The Stilt): MemSet33beta2

We added Command Rate too, but it's only a Read only timings.
Also, improve reading memory frequency. :)

Warning: I don't try the Performance Level with P965, and I don't know the result.

performance level?
as in strap change?
how does it work
06-17-2007, 12:08 AM
ziddey

range from 1-12

edit: also it looks like trtp is off by 2. When I set it from 2 to 4 in 33b2, it goes from 4 to 6 in 32.
06-17-2007, 02:41 AM
webwilli

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Here is beta2 version with Performance Level (by The Stilt): MemSet33beta2

We added Command Rate too, but it's only a Read only timings.
Also, improve reading memory frequency. :)

Warning: I don't try the Performance Level with P965, and I don't know the result.

thanks for the new version.

but it don´t read the memory frequency:

http://pics.mwirths.de/pics/memset.jpg

Asus P5K Deluxe
FSB 500
MEM 600
06-17-2007, 07:33 AM
Stelios

Doesn't work on p965 ... Tried with commando . I can select from 1 to 12 without lock ups , but the performance doesn't change .
06-17-2007, 07:56 AM
Brama

On GA-P35-DQ6 performance level works perfectly.
From level 7 (my first stable setting at 390 MHz FSB) to level 12 there is more than 20% difference in everest memory and cache benchmark.

The strange thing is that at first launch of memset it displayes 11 as performance level even if the real performance level is 8 (checked with everest benchmark)

Is it possible to save a memory configuration and load as soon as memset starts?

Or do it by a command level start?
06-17-2007, 01:17 PM
Viss

Works fine, great option and thanks a lot :up:

Lowest i can get is 5 (+0.3 vMch). P35C bios F3b. Settings from bios:

Default = 8
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...c/default8.jpg

Performance = 6
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/perf6.jpg

Performance = 5
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/perf5.jpg
06-17-2007, 02:19 PM
Hutch

Felix I can't get the performance level to even read a # on my P965-DS3 board. When I open memset it has no value for the performance level and if I try to change it the apply button is grayed out.
06-17-2007, 03:07 PM
BenchZowner

Felix the latest Beta ( v3,3 Beta 2 ) isn't working with Asus P5K3 Deluxe at all ( it's a DDR3 P35 board ).

Here's a pic

http://i8.tinypic.com/521wgpk.jpg

Let me know if I can help you with something :)
06-17-2007, 03:22 PM
Grinch

dunno if it has been posted or not..but this program works on my 680i mobo.
06-17-2007, 10:58 PM
G H Z

Beta 2 works on Asus P5K Deluxe, Performance Level is also working.

Thanks to both you and the Stilt :)
06-18-2007, 05:43 AM
Gam3Ra

Will soon be writen Vista 64bit version?
06-18-2007, 06:47 AM
Nikolasz

dlin that tool..
06-20-2007, 10:32 AM
malatory

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Felix the latest Beta ( v3,3 Beta 2 ) isn't working with Asus P5K3 Deluxe at all ( it's a DDR3 P35 board ).

Here's a pic

http://i8.tinypic.com/521wgpk.jpg

Let me know if I can help you with something :)

I will say it also works on the Gigabyte P35C-DS3R board with DDR3 ram. (F2 bios) I will get a image up later on.
06-20-2007, 01:00 PM
Kabauterman

I confirm that it don't runs with DDR3

Gigabyte P35T-DQ6
06-20-2007, 07:16 PM
BenchZowner

I didn't check if the timings are being set actually, but after a fresh OS install, the apply button is now enabled @ P5K3 Deluxe.
Will test it in a matter of hours and report back Felix ;)
06-21-2007, 12:20 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Felix the latest Beta ( v3,3 Beta 2 ) isn't working with Asus P5K3 Deluxe at all ( it's a DDR3 P35 board ).

Here's a pic

http://i8.tinypic.com/521wgpk.jpg

Let me know if I can help you with something :)

Found out that if you boot with "DDR2-like" like timings on the P5K3 Deluxe ( probably applies to other DDR3 mobos as well ) ( timings like 7-6-6-15 ) [ tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS ] lets you use memtest ( performance level changing works perfectly ) [ haven't tested the timings thoroughly yet )
06-21-2007, 02:47 AM
Alex-Ro

Hello m8,excellent tool.Probably in the next beta the SAVE option will be available,so that it could be applied at system start-up.My mainboard is a p35-dq6.Thanks.
06-21-2007, 02:57 PM
Hutch

Performance level works now on my Gigabyte P965-DS3/S3 Rev 1 C1. The only time it doesn't work is if the divider is set to 1:1 with Cas 5. It's very hard to change levels downward from original, usually instantly freezes. At 451mhz FSB it boots at Level 12.

Has anyone found that giving the mch more voltage allows them to select a lower performance level?
06-21-2007, 05:14 PM
BenchZowner

Gonna test the new beta on P965 now :D
06-23-2007, 05:09 PM
d4ve

Hutch, I once tried give more vmch on P35-DS3R, and I was able to lower PL to 6, before I was stuck at PL7. Usually set my PL to 6 made my systems instantly freeze.
Gonna try again later.
06-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Hutch

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4ve

Hutch, I once tried give more vmch on P35-DS3R, and I was able to lower PL to 6, before I was stuck at PL7. Usually set my PL to 6 made my systems instantly freeze.
Gonna try again later.

Tried it myself also. Level 9 used to make it my system freeze (P965-S3) on FSBs over 400 with max voltage in bios (+.3V) I hooked up a 10K VR and brought it to 1.7V. Not only did level 9 work at 425mhz FSB but Level 8 was stable also. Haven't gotten around to trying anything lower yet.
06-24-2007, 05:07 AM
sjvarley

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Felix the latest Beta ( v3,3 Beta 2 ) isn't working with Asus P5K3 Deluxe at all ( it's a DDR3 P35 board ).

Here's a pic

http://i8.tinypic.com/521wgpk.jpg

Let me know if I can help you with something :)

Can we get more info on how the performance modification is altering the mchbar registers? Thanks!
06-25-2007, 04:02 AM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjvarley

Can we get more info on how the performance modification is altering the mchbar registers? Thanks!

Could do, but first... I need some rest 'cause I'm barely hangin' on atm :(
06-25-2007, 04:31 AM
sjvarley

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Could do, but first... I need some rest 'cause I'm barely hangin' on atm :(

Thanks!
06-26-2007, 07:51 PM
Truckchase!

I ran my good 'ole benchmark script to compare game performance when moving to performance level 8 from 9. Here are the results:

Performance level 9:

Benchmark Log File created on 6/26/2007 at 8:27:31 PM

Number of cores 2
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core Stepping B2
Core Speed 3488.1 MHz (8.0 x 436.0 MHz)
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Northbridge Intel ID29C0 rev. 02

Memory Size 2048 MBytes
DMI BIOS
date 05/25/2007
Motherboard Info
vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
model P5K Deluxe
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Business Edition (Build 6000)
DirectX Version 10.0

Video: x1900xtx @ 729/1818 Cat7.5
Audio: Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty

Tests performed at 1024x768x32, 4x FSAA & 16x Anistropic (Quality setting)
************************************************** ******************************

Results for Quake2:
Result 1:520.6
Result 2:525.7
Result 3:524.0
AVERAGE FPS: 523.43
***************************************

Results for Quake3:
Result 1:405.0
Result 2:404.2
Result 3:403.3
AVERAGE FPS: 404.17
***************************************

Results for UT2004FlyBy:
Result 1:457.8
Result 2:461.9
Result 3:463.5
AVERAGE FPS: 461.07
***************************************

Results for UT2004Botmatch:
Result 1:83.67
Result 2:83.57
AVERAGE FPS: 83.62
***************************************

Results for Comanche4:
Result 1:107.8
Result 2:108.2
AVERAGE FPS: 108
***************************************

Results for FarCry:
Result 1:172.0
Result 2:171.3
AVERAGE FPS: 171.65
***************************************

Results for HalfLife2:
Result 1:236.1
Result 2:236.0
AVERAGE FPS: 236.05
***************************************

Results for Doom3:
Result 1:150.8
Result 2:150.8
AVERAGE FPS: 150.8
***************************************

Results for HalfLife2_Lost_Coast:
Result 1:123.8
Result 2:124.4
AVERAGE FPS: 124.1
***************************************

Results for Quake4:
Result 1:99.21
Result 2:99.14
AVERAGE FPS: 99.18
***************************************

Benchmarks finished at 8:44:32 PM

Performance level 8:
Benchmark Log File created on 6/26/2007 at 8:49:53 PM

Number of cores 2
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core Stepping B2
Core Speed 3488.1 MHz (8.0 x 436.0 MHz)
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Northbridge Intel ID29C0 rev. 02

Memory Size 2048 MBytes
DMI BIOS
date 05/25/2007
Motherboard Info
vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
model P5K Deluxe
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Business Edition (Build 6000)
DirectX Version 10.0

Video: x1900xtx @ 729/1818 Cat7.5
Audio: Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty

Tests performed at 1024x768x32, 4x FSAA & 16x Anistropic (Quality setting)
************************************************** ******************************

Results for Quake2:
Result 1:527.4
Result 2:527.4
Result 3:530.0
AVERAGE FPS: 528.27
***************************************

Results for Quake3:
Result 1:406.2
Result 2:405.3
Result 3:404.6
AVERAGE FPS: 405.37
***************************************

Results for UT2004FlyBy:
Result 1:463.6
Result 2:467.0
Result 3:461.6
AVERAGE FPS: 464.07
***************************************

Results for UT2004Botmatch:
Result 1:83.96
Result 2:84.12
AVERAGE FPS: 84.04
***************************************

Results for Comanche4:
Result 1:107.5
Result 2:108.6
AVERAGE FPS: 108.05
***************************************

Results for FarCry:
Result 1:172.1
Result 2:172.5
AVERAGE FPS: 172.3
***************************************

Results for HalfLife2:
Result 1:236.4
Result 2:236.0
AVERAGE FPS: 236.2
***************************************

Results for Doom3:
Result 1:151.0
Result 2:150.9
AVERAGE FPS: 150.95
***************************************

Results for HalfLife2_Lost_Coast:
Result 1:124.6
Result 2:124.6
AVERAGE FPS: 124.6
***************************************

Results for Quake4:
Result 1:99.27
Result 2:99.22
AVERAGE FPS: 99.24
***************************************

Benchmarks finished at 9:06:03 PM

For system specs see my sig.
06-26-2007, 08:05 PM
luihed

Wow.... I cant believe how slow Anus and gigabyte are setting thier boards... I dont think Ive ever seen Performance level 8 on my board at any fsb, its always between 5 and 7:D .... I use memset all the time and never had a successful change, I guess Abit sets it at lowest possible all the time :)
06-26-2007, 09:38 PM
BenchZowner

I've seen Performance Level 4 on the P5K3 Deluxe, and 6 regularly.
06-26-2007, 10:58 PM
FELIX

Quote:

Originally Posted by luihed

Wow.... I cant believe how slow Anus and gigabyte are setting thier boards...

...Anus :rolleyes:
06-26-2007, 11:32 PM
ziddey

lol
06-27-2007, 12:15 AM
alpha0ne

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

...Anus :rolleyes:

Sorry..................its something I have been using for many years now :ROTF:
06-27-2007, 06:44 PM
luihed

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

...Anus :rolleyes:

I got it from him [pointing up] ....

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

I've seen Performance Level 4 on the P5K3 Deluxe, and 6 regularly.

Do you remember what your fsb was at the time?... Im curious if they set these levels differently with DD3 boards, must have been really quick....
06-27-2007, 09:31 PM
BenchZowner

Quote:

Originally Posted by luihed

I got it from him [pointing up] ....

Do you remember what your fsb was at the time?... Im curious if they set these levels differently with DD3 boards, must have been really quick....

I don't remember, but I will be testing the board thoroughly over the weekend, and P.L. ( Performance Level ) investigation is on the check list ;)

Expect updates & the review soon :)
06-27-2007, 09:38 PM
G H Z

Dividers/FSB/Memory timings, all can change they PL level running on P5K.
06-27-2007, 09:46 PM
luihed

Dont get me wrong, the P5K is a very nice board but after how their CS treated me with my commando Id rather not buy a board than give them my business.... Id be using a P5K if that didnt happen.... but thats another story lol...
06-28-2007, 08:48 AM
Truckchase!

Quote:

Originally Posted by G H Z

Dividers/FSB/Memory timings, all can change they PL level running on P5K.

To quote Mr. McMahon; "You sir, are correct!"

"Static Read Control" Disabled to Auto changes mine from 9 to 6. Transaction booster also directly manipulates that value.
06-28-2007, 10:18 AM
Tony

The Performance level is the Static read control register, nothing more.

We also may be seeing 965 having the table a little messed up, i talked to Oskar and he is putting it into the dark bios
06-28-2007, 11:01 AM
Tulatin

So i take it being able to set PL 5 (down from 8) on the sig-rig is good, with only +.1v mch, nb?
06-28-2007, 11:35 AM
ziddey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

The Performance level is the Static read control register, nothing more.

We also may be seeing 965 having the table a little messed up, i talked to Oskar and he is putting it into the dark bios

wow, talk about support for an aging board :)
I was wondering if you could elaborate on the two different memory enhancement options in current dark bioses and how they compare?
06-30-2007, 12:00 PM
FELIX

Final version: MemSet33

-Add support for P35 chipsets.
-Add some timings on 650/680i chipsets.
-Improve readings memory frequency with s.775 CPU.
-"About" Panel was changed: supported by Abit now. :)

I don't add Performance Level on 965 chipsets for now, and waiting for more info
before add this feature on this chipsets, but I let the beta2 (included PL on 965P) in line.

Tell me if you find bug with this version...
06-30-2007, 12:04 PM
ziddey

thanks. is there a way to allow it to change cas latency for non965/35 chipsets?
06-30-2007, 12:31 PM
FELIX

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziddey

thanks. is there a way to allow it to change cas latency for non965/35 chipsets?

It's not possible to change #cas under Windows on DDR2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Felix the latest Beta ( v3,3 Beta 2 )
isn't working with Asus P5K3 Deluxe at all ( it's a DDR3 P35 board ).

Let me know if I can help you with something :)

I added some value in the final version->DDR3 have very hight timing (9.9.9.21)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gam3Ra

Will soon be writen Vista 64bit version?

Normally it's work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex-Ro

Hello m8,excellent tool.
Probably in the next beta the SAVE option will be available,
so that it could be applied at system start-up.
My mainboard is a p35-dq6.Thanks.

Save function work on final version too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjvarley

Can we get more info on how the performance modification
is altering the mchbar registers? Thanks!

...ask it at The Stilt. :)
06-30-2007, 01:38 PM
HamidFULL

when I run MemSet First time after loading XP it show me all correct timings look :

First Run :
http://i16.tinypic.com/6aujb7d.jpg

but When I Exit from MemSet with no change at all and run it again I see this :

Second Run :
http://i17.tinypic.com/6f7e837.jpg

and I have to restart my PC after boot again for first time only it show me correct timings!

I test MemSet 3.2 and 3.3 even betas but all of them have this problem

My system info is in my rig
any solution?
06-30-2007, 03:25 PM
dinos22

don't click on exit button but rather than X in top right corner
that should keep things correct
06-30-2007, 11:21 PM
ziddey

uncheck lock mchbar
07-01-2007, 12:58 AM
HamidFULL

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

don't click on exit button but rather than X in top right corner
that should keep things correct

Thanks but problem no solved :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziddey

uncheck lock mchbar

Thanks I will try when I reach to home!
07-01-2007, 01:20 AM
FELIX

Restart your system, run memset and unchek "lock mchbar"
07-01-2007, 02:37 AM
HamidFULL

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Restart your system, run memset and unchek "lock mchbar"

Thanks I will try when I reach to home!
07-01-2007, 11:09 AM
zsamz_

felix should we unchek "lock mchbar" for p35 chipset also?

nice job btw thank you again to you n stilt:up:
07-01-2007, 11:21 AM
FELIX

...only if you have the same problem than HamidFULL (read post #575)
07-05-2007, 07:03 AM
FELIX

For the Write Recovery time and the write to Read delay, bios and memset are right; I explain:

Write Recovery time and Write to Read delay are internal dram timing.
There values are usually 3 to 8 for Write Recovery time and 2 to 6 for Write to Read delay.
But memset don't report these value, memset report Write to Precharge delay and Write to Read command delay.

Here is how these value are calculated by the chipsets:

Write to Precharge = Cas - 1 +BL/2 + tWR.
Write to read command = Cas - 1 +BL/2 + tWTR.
BL(Burst Lenght) practically always 8.
tWR(Write recovery time) is 3 for ddr or ddr2/400 and 4 for ddr2/533, 5 for ddr2/667-800.It's can vary.

For example, If your have ddr2/533 and your Cas latency is 4,Write Precharge = 4 - 1 + (8/4) + 4 = 11.

It's the reason that memset report higher values than the bios.
You can see here at page 114 for Intel explanations.
07-05-2007, 08:02 AM
Truckchase!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

For the Write Recovery time and the write to Read delay, bios and memset are right; I explain:

Write Recovery time and Write to Read delay are internal dram timing.
There values are usually 3 to 8 for Write Recovery time and 2 to 6 for Write to Read delay.
But memset don't report these value, memset report Write to Precharge delay and Write to Read command delay.

Here is how these value are calculated by the chipsets:

Write to Precharge = Cas - 1 +BL/2 + tWR.
Write to read command = Cas - 1 +BL/2 + tWTR.
BL(Burst Lenght) practically always 8.
tWR(Write recovery time) is 3 for ddr or ddr2/400 and 4 for ddr2/533, 5 for ddr2/667-800.It's can vary.

For example, If your have ddr2/533 and your Cas latency is 4,Write Precharge = 4 - 1 + (8/4) + 4 = 11.

It's the reason that memset report higher values than the bios.
You can see here at page 114 for Intel explanations.

Thanks for the explanation Felix!
07-10-2007, 10:08 PM
albertyin

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Here is how these value are calculated by the chipsets:

Write to Precharge = Cas - 1 +BL/2 + tWR.
Write to read command = Cas - 1 +BL/2 + tWTR.
BL(Burst Lenght) practically always 8.
tWR(Write recovery time) is 3 for ddr or ddr2/400 and 4 for ddr2/533, 5 for ddr2/667-800.It's can vary.

For example, If your have ddr2/533 and your Cas latency is 4,Write Precharge = 4 - 1 + (8/4) + 4 = 11.

should it be 4-1+(8/2)+4=11 :confused:
07-10-2007, 11:01 PM
FELIX

Quote:

Originally Posted by albertyin

should it be 4-1+(8/2)+4=11 :confused:

...exact, you're right. :D
07-11-2007, 12:53 PM
lowfat

anyone else notice how if you change the memory ratio from 4:5 to 5:6 the performance level changes from 7 to 10. Then if you change it from 5:6 to 1:1, the performance level jumps to 11. This was all @ 490MHz FSB on a P35-DQ6.

EDIT: On a hunch i did some more testing.

I booted to 400MHz FSB with memory @ 1:1, Performance Level was 11. Booted to 515MHz with memory @ 1:1, Performance Level was still 11. Booted to 515MHz FSB with memory @ 5:6, Performance Level dropped to 10. Booted to 400MHz FSB 5:6, Performance Level was also 10.

So I do not believe the FSB has anything to do with the strap change on the P35-DQ6, just the memory ratio. Kind of odd through that 1:1 would be a higher Performance level over 4:5 though.
07-11-2007, 03:56 PM
ziddey

1:1 and 5:6 are part of 333strap. 4:5 is part of 266strap.
07-13-2007, 06:27 AM
kiwi

Don't know if it is a memset bug or gigabyte bug but on p35 DS3r it shows weird 'Write to precharge' and 'write to read delay' timings, completely different from those set in bios.

When set to Auto, they seem fine

If I remember right the same thing happened to old DS3 965
07-13-2007, 10:36 AM
FELIX

kiwi=> read post #583, make the calculation, and tell us the result. :)
07-13-2007, 11:11 AM
metro.cl

Felix Memset wont repor DDR3 MHz on Gigabyte P35T DQ6, how can i help you to fix this?
07-13-2007, 12:21 PM
FELIX

Report nothing, or wrong value?
07-13-2007, 01:48 PM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by FELIX

Report nothing, or wrong value?

Nothing 0 MHz
07-13-2007, 02:12 PM
FELIX

I send you a PM.
07-15-2007, 12:55 AM
Hutch

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Don't know if it is a memset bug or gigabyte bug but on p35 DS3r it shows weird 'Write to precharge' and 'write to read delay' timings, completely different from those set in bios.

When set to Auto, they seem fine

If I remember right the same thing happened to old DS3 965

It's the bios. The bios engineers screwed up pretty badly and they still haven't figured it out. They didn't change the calculations in the bios from the way they have the stupid (+.1V +.2V +.3V) things. When you set one of those values in the bios, it ADDS whatever you set it to to the default value.

For example, write to precharge is default at 5 in bios. If you select 11 for the value, memset will tell you that it's really 16, because it is.

Felix, have you fixed the 1:1 cas 5 on p965 boards? The PL worked on my board, just not with 1:1 cas 5.
07-15-2007, 01:00 AM
ziddey

you move from andover??
07-15-2007, 08:09 AM
furballi

Program doesn't detect my IP35 chip (Abit IP35-E). Anyone with a fix or link to a good download?

TIA,
F
07-15-2007, 09:45 AM
FELIX

=>Hutch:I add some values in PL on this version, not sure that it's enought.

=>furbally: save a register dump (with cpu-z->last table->register.txt) and send it at: memset@hotmail.fr
07-16-2007, 06:52 AM
furballi

Running now after downloading the latest version. Is there an instruction manual?

TIA,
F
07-17-2007, 07:30 AM
FELIX

=metro.cl, hutch: use this version: MemSet33

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