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how is corruption issue on 0701? Any sign of "fix"? thx
Striker II Extreme BIOS 0702
And for thou hunger for changelog:
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BIOS ID: STRIIEX
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*NVMM - NVMM 4.082.28
JMB363 OptionROM: 1.06.75
NVRAID ROM: 9.87
BIOS version: 0702 Date:05/12/2008
Checksum: 5B00H
1. Update NVMM 4.082.28
2. Update ROMSIP to fix CPU compatibility issue for HW request.
Please verify 1600MHz CPU boot to OS blue screen issue
** Micro Code Information **
ID CPUID |ID CPUID |ID CPUID |ID CPUID
-----------+-----------+-----------+---------
2C 0F25 |17 0F34 |17 0F41 |05 0F43
06 0F44 |03 0F47 |04 0F4A |03 0F49
04 0F64 |0A 0F32 |02 0F37 |05 0F60
07 0F61 |0F 0F62 |0B 0F65 |A3 06FD
B6 06FB |82 06F9 |68 06F7 |CB 06F6
5A 06F2 |33 06F5 |33 06F5 |26 06F4
38 0661 |04 0660 |06 0671 |06 0671
06 0671 |0B 0676 |0B 0676 |03 0677
B3 06FB |
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*NVMM - NVMM 4.082.10
JMB363 OptionROM: 1.06.75
NVRAID ROM: 9.87
BIOS version: 0701 Date:05/06/2008
Checksum: 4D00H
1. Update NVMM to 4.082.10 to fix QX9770-C1 unstable issue
** Micro Code Information **
ID CPUID |ID CPUID |ID CPUID |ID CPUID
-----------+-----------+-----------+---------
2C 0F25 |17 0F34 |17 0F41 |05 0F43
06 0F44 |03 0F47 |04 0F4A |03 0F49
04 0F64 |0A 0F32 |02 0F37 |05 0F60
07 0F61 |0F 0F62 |0B 0F65 |A3 06FD
B6 06FB |82 06F9 |68 06F7 |CB 06F6
5A 06F2 |33 06F5 |33 06F5 |26 06F4
38 0661 |04 0660 |06 0671 |06 0671
06 0671 |0B 0676 |0B 0676 |03 0677
B3 06FB |
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thx pmp, this bios fixxed my ocz 1600EB not working at 1800mhz :-)
Nice...I hope this BIOS addresses corruption issues when using RAID. Makes it hard for me to test overclocks.
BenchZowner - Thank you very much for your thoughts on my question, much appreciated! With that said your settings are very impressive to say the least man, those timings are super tight! Plus it looks like you have been able to actually boot into Windows with those settings (as in you didn't have to use MemSet to tighten everything up once you were actually in Windows), is that true or did you have to use Windows based programs to tighten stuff up a bit? Last but not least in the first two of your three screenshots you were running at 510FSB x 9.0 = 4.6Ghz, well what voltages were you running with those settings, do you remember?
vcore:
PLL:
VTT:
vdimm:
SB:
NB:
*Did you mess with any of the GTL's (either CPU GTL's or NB GTL's) for any of your recent bench sessions? Thanks man! Oh crap, given your vast experience with serious clocking on this board have you found any of the voltage read points on the board yet (besides the VDIMM and CPU points on the bottom of the PCB (or the VDIMM point on the top of board between the right-most DDR3 slot of the ATX connector)? Most importantly I'm curious about the actual VTT voltage read point? Thanks again man!
PMP - Your help is greatly appreciated, especially in regards to your BIOS release information! Otherwise we might not have had any information on the change log for these files! Now this may be a stupid question but, when a new BIOS file is released does it usually contain all the previous fixes/changes from old BIOS files along with any new fixes/changes? I suppose that this depends on which BIOS file the new release was built off of?
My pleasure to help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Yes, those timings are indeed tight, and I booted into windows with those timings, except tRFC because the BIOS ignores the tRFC setting ( BIOS Bug ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Those settings are not guaranteed to work with every E8xxx series chip out there, but here they are: ( ignore my Vcore as my chips is one of the worst chips out there, and requires enormous amounts of voltage to reach high frequencies )Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
vcore: 1.675V
PLL: 1.72V
VTT: 1.4V
vdimm: 2.18V
SB: 1.65V
NB: 1.7V
For the given FSB frequency with both P1 & P2 enabled, I had to use NB GTL @ +40mV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
CPU also required -21mV & -24mV to run at those settings stable.
Auto GTL settings didn't cut it.
Oh crap, given your vast experience with serious clocking on this board have you found any of the voltage read points on the board yet (besides the VDIMM and CPU points on the bottom of the PCB (or the VDIMM point on the top of board between the right-most DDR3 slot of the ATX connector)?[/quote]
Main Voltage measurement points:
http://i26.tinypic.com/1z52h44.jpg
You can use the exposed pins on the front side of the mobo to measure them as well.
Vtt and other voltages points coming soon ( gotta finish some top priority stuff first )
guys i'm trying to run 4x1gb 1800 gskill 77718
but once i enter and change the setups to 1800 777182t 2vdimm can't even post my s2e ..stucked on det dram i've also tried other kits 4x1gb same crap
bios 0511 0601 0701 0702
winth E6850 x7
vdnb from 1,44>1,66
vsb 1,55
pcie 101>105
any ideas?
vdim from 1,96>2,04 on bios
BenchZowner - Your the man, thank you very much for posting all this information despite being so busy (its a huge help to say the least)! Did you step up to 0702 yet or are you still running 0701?
|SiLA| - I assume you have read through Kris's article over at Anandtech, HERE? I ask this becausee they had amazing results running 4x sticks on their S2E and gave alot of hints/pointers to make it happen! Its at the very least a great place to start. I am not much help because I've only got 2GB of RAM on 2x sticks! Good luck man and if you have success please post your settings incase others are having the same problem!
Still on 0701.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
do u have the link? :(
thanks
found it and didn't really helped me
the only way is to set cas8
Nice to see they are updating the NVMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Looks like the update is working after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by X2beach
Does anybody have an issue with the onboard NIC's? My connection was working fine and now either NIC cant grab an IP from my router. It sends packets but does not recieve any and has the limited or no connectivey exclamation point. Ethernet cable and router is fine as i can hook the same cable to another PC and it connects fine.
when I try and load either 701, 702 bois I get a message that bin file is not the same as existing bios, and it won't load .. I was using ez-flash utility in bios with a USB drive, I tried booting to USB directly but I am not sure I did it right, I formated my USB drive to FAT. not FAT32 and loaded 702 bios to it a long with awardflash utility from ASUS CD and did what said in owners manuel but I can not get it to work. I'm sure it's me...LOL and no I don't own a floppy drive yet nor do I want one... I notice that only a few bios's work with ez-flash utility, what makes them different that others will not work? I'm using 0603 as of now.
Create a bootable CD/DVD with AWDflash and the BIOS file and... happy flashing :)
I boot from a bootable usb stick containing awdflash.exe and the appropriate bios file.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwik
Look here for directions on preparing the bootable usb stick.
I have the worst luck. (I should change my user name to BADLUCK) Because I received my new RMAed S2E a couple of days ago and I was running it at a 1603 FSB with a multi of x10.5 @ 4.2GHz with my memory running at 7-7-7-18 1T on my QX9650. I was stable all night no problems ran 3DMARK06 10 times, memory check no problems, ran prime95 for 2 hours no problems, and played Crysis multi for about 2 hours as well.
I was on BIOS 0603, because I was having problems flashing to new 0701. I so happy everything was running so well tell I shut down my system and went to bed. And when I woke up I started my system and it would go through all the normal boot stuff tell it got to the end when the Windows Vista SOUND comes ON and then it reboots over and over same thing. I tried a Q6600 cpu, two different HD with Windows Vista installed already. Nothing??? So after 1 day of fun with this board I decided to get that REFUND after all. Life is way to short to be messing around with ASUS $500 mobo. I just wish I had a chance with that new BIOS 0702 to see if anything else would work. So another one bites the dust... Not sure what I will go to now, probably selling my QX9650 cpu and go back to my old setup. I really did not see that big of a change coming away from the 680i to this 790i other then the DDR3. I hope later this board will shine and then maybe I will return... GOOD LUCK ALL... I will be watching your progress on the sideline, this time without pulling out my own hair because I do not have to deal with this frustration anymore.. :)
Why don't you try to pop the battery, reset all stuff back (if it comes alive again and posts) to default settings lucky and reset ya OC from scratch... and test each setting thorughly... Really surprised you ddn't see any change coming from 680i to 790i... ram performance is way better on the newer Nvidia's (at least the 780i I had) and overclocking quads is way painless too...
I see what your saying Leeghoofd but I can also understand some guys (like Lu(ky) just deciding to give it up! I myself truly enjoy all this stuff (sometimes spending more time tweaking and testing than actually using your computer for what it was made for) but I know this is not the case for everyone! I've actually considered investing in a 2nd system (which I don't have at the moment) that was just set up for stable and reliable operation. That way when I was working on a new build (like we all are doing now on the S2E)I'd still have a system to go online with and use for working (homework, internet, etc..).
EDIT: I was just browsing over at newegg and noticed there is a Striker II NSE motherboard for sale now for a bit under $400. Until just seeing it for sale there I didn't know it exsisted, is this just one the first 790i boards (not the 790i Ultra)? The specs looking similar except for a few things, like lower RAM OC speeds (this one only mentions up to 1600)? Just curious as I haven't heard of it yet!
Hi all!
I´ve been following this thread for a while, taking advise from the most experienced OCers and enthusiasts.
My issue is a strange one(at least do i think so). I can boot Vista x64 with almost any setting and its prime95 stabile (8h), 3DMark06/Vantage Stabile, Crysis stabile with the FSB@1806MHz and my QX9650@ multi x9.
However i´m having problems in getting XP stabile (need it for some legacy games and apps). So every time i try to boot XP i end up with a BSOD or it freezes.
If i go stock setting XP is stabile and works fine. I have tried both with SP2 as well as with SP3 (current install) and the result is the same. The only software installed is Nvidia MoBo(9.64) and GPU drivers(169.25).
Since the SIIE is my first Nvidia MoBo i´m not familiar with all the settings and possebilities of it. I might, and probably are doing something that could be improved.
My current settings:
BIOS 0702
Multi x9
vCore 1,47
PLL 1,6
VTT 1,34
NB 1,68
SB 1,6
GTL0 -43mv
GTL1 -48mV
GTL2 AUTO
GTL3 AUTO
Timings 7-6-6-20-1T
2GB Dominator DDR3 PC14400
Any advise is welcome because i´m stuck.:confused:
Umm... i dont know if i´m in the right thread. There are currently two that deals with the 790i. Hopefully i am in the right one:rolleyes:
Cheers friends:wave:
Try setting the NB Ref Voltage at +30mV for a start.
And also set the GTLs at -29mV, -32mV, -32mV, -29mV.
Thank iŽll do just that. Havent touched the other GTL settings at all. This will be intresting.
Thanks for your advise BenchZowner:up:
Cheers
For 45nm dual cores should we use negative values for the NB Ref Voltage like the CPU GTLs? OR does the same concept not apply to the NB GTLs.Quote:
Try setting the NB Ref Voltage at +30mV for a start.
And also set the GTLs at -29mV, -32mV, -32mV, -29mV.
My question is, are the people with eVGA changing their NB Ref voltages? Since most of us need to increase the NB voltage for high OC, maybe NB ref voltage should be changed too?
NB likes positive GTLs with both Dual & Quads.
+30mV and +40mV seems like the sweet spot in my testing ( 500+ FSB, P1 & P2 Enabled, and RAM Linked and Unlinked with tight timings )
thanks bench, i'll take your word for it and switch it to +40mv.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Yeah I did that and still it would not reboot. It goes through everything saying Windows is loading and then when the Window logo comes on with the sound it reboots again, believe me I tried everything. I decided today to try out the eVGA 790i mobo now. Since I already have 2 9800GTX cards. If I had the 9800GX2 I would have went to a x38 board.
And I never had a problems OCing a Q6600 on the S2E only the QX9650!!
I think I just bricked my S2E. I flashed to 0702 using awdflash and hit F1 after the flashing was done and then I did a stupid thing. I hit the "CLR CMOS" button while it was going through the POST process. I always CLR CMOS after a BIOS flash. Now the board is stuck @ "CODE INIT". I took the battery out and will keep the battery out and hope when I pop the battery in tomorrow, it magically comes back to life, like the old strikers did with the dreaded "CPU INIT" bug. If not, I guess I would have to go through Asus for RMA. Anybody here familiar with the RMA process with Asus. Thanks in advance.
Thanks Nuclearjock USB drive work great with those programs :up: Bios 702 in nice so far.....
Ok I was using 701 & 702, they don't work for my setup at all.
What I notice when I update bios is flickering on the main bios screen.
2nd is bios loads slower then 601 on boot up.
3rd Asus just released 602 & it's not listed as beta on there website.
I just installed 602 & I don't have the flicker problem in bios main screen.
So far it runs great, nothing like 701 or 702...
The only issue I have with 0701 is the flickering in the Extreme Tweaker menu.
With 0702 I don't have any real problem at the moment ( except the usual bad 6-5-5 and 7-6-5 clocking ).
Ehhh Bench do you also notice the bios loads slower at startup? I don't have the splash screen enabled, so I also notice a difference at startup.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
The flickering is a problem for sure with bios...
BIOS 0702 has allowed me to overclock for the first time with OCZ 2x2GB EB 1600mhz
I've got the X3350 CPU stock cooling
7-7-7-28 @ 1610 linked and synced (1600 = BSOD)
P1 & P2 enabled
Only voltages I have modified are
RAM 1.9v
NB 1.46
SB 1.5
the rest is on auto
Very happy that I was able to do this without corrupting the raid. I'll shoot for more when I get a water loop in there this weekend. Not sure the ram could go any higher but I'll try.
Also I have been getting some weird sound crackling when I log in from the user menu...dunno if this has something to do with overclock..maybe the X-FI doesn't like it.
Yeah, I noticed a 1-1.5s slower BIOS entrance delay, but I don't really care as long as it helps me overclock my FSB & RAM better ( and it does )Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHardCase
Ok kool, so 701 & 702 has some bugs, but for me it causes lockups playing cod 4. I tested it over & over 701 & 702.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
But 601 or 602 works 100% for me anyways.
All I can say to people is use what works best for you're setup.
Difference with 601 & 602
Bios 601 Cpu VTT is incorrect. (This will cause system not to boot)
Bios 602 Cpu VTT is Fixed.
What do you mean ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHardCase
That the BIOS sets the wrong default VTT voltage for the CPU ? ( example: the default VTT for 65nm CPUs is 1.2V, and for the 45nm 1.1V ) [ wrong here could be "BIOS Sets VTT to 1.2V for 45nm CPU at Auto setting ]
Or you're saying that the BIOS applies another VTT voltage ignoring your selection ?
If yes on the second part, how did you verify that ? By software reading or multimeter ?
Ohhh let me explain it better, not sure if it happens a stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
What happens for me is I need 1.34v Cpu VTT overclocked on bios 601, but it sets it incorrect in bios, I need to set 1.42v Cpu VTT to get 1.34v.
In bios 602 if I set 1.34v Cpu VTT I get real 1.34v Cpu VTT.
Using Everest Software...
Ah, ok.
Gonna check it out ( with a multimeter ) when dealing with the board's review ( and to update the BIOSes bug list )
I am testing bios 0701 & 0702, with several fsb 1600 1633 1650 1666 1700 1733 1750 1800 1811 1820
vcore 1.325 -> 1.362
vtt 1.28 -> 1.36
cpu multi: x9 or x8
ram: 8-7-6-21 2T
vdimm: 1.9 -> 2.0
nb: 1.36 -> 1.5
sb: 1.55 -> 1.6
vtlgref0-3: 0 -> -50mV
I test with both win XP 32 and vista x64. Most the time I can get prime+memtest stable if I put the right volts, and I have no lockups/freeze.
But here is my issue: I will always end up getting CRC errors when I install games from an iso sitting on my hdd (especially assassin'creed) or when using quickpar or winrar to check large archive files.
Am I the only one? What can it be?? unstable fsb, ram timing, gtlvref, I tried everything oh god...
Do you guys really stress your rig by testing CRC before claiming stability?
Guys one question real quick
Do you use prime 25.5 or 25.6?
I heard some people using 25.5 but I dont know why...
slim142 - I'm using build 25.6, seems to be much better for testing quad-cores. This is especially important when tuning GTL's because each thread in the Prime95 test corrisponds to the same actual core on the processor. That way it can be helpful in figuring out just what core is having issues.
BenchZowner - You mentioned a review in your above thread, are you putting together a review for here or BenchZone?
Roger that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Just like webwilli, I am now selling my s2e and bought in place a p5e3 premium.
Absolutely no regret. X48 ftw.
What a strange feeling to set fsb450/mem900 and boot straight away, prime, install stuff, play games and no problem at all.
I got so used to wait for the corruption or CRC or bsod or lockup to occur, and now it's over ! What a relief.
All my hardware kept the same, I just switched the s2e for the p5e3 premium. So it was really this crappy board.
PS: 0701 & 0702 were worse for me than 0601 in terms of stability/corruption.
Bios 0703 fixxed the slow Menu in the bios
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/asus/mb/socke...xtreme0703.zip
at this rate we'll be at 1001 by Monday morning!
But I just want a 450Mhz FSB OC, it doesnt matter if 1 more BIOS or 10 more!
is there some trick how OC the Kensfields on S2Ex? I cannot to break 350MHz FSB ...
I dream of stable gaming rig one day, but I can't bring myself to sell..Quote:
Originally Posted by MateoTTR
/me hopes for a good bios in the future.
Maybe the 266 default FSB causes this bottleneck. Try if setting the FSB directly to 401 works.Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
For my site m8, but I will be updating the thread I opened in this section as well with more stuff as I progress ( today was a... step backwards with extreme cooling, board wasn't stable at the settings it ran fine on air :mad: )Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Thanks Bench! By the way I spent some serious time on your site and I'm very impressed! I kept thinking, "if I ever made my own site this is just how I would do it", lol! With that said sorry about your cooling problems, must have been dissapointing!
i tryed everything, this chip i can OC on Maximus Extreme to 450MHz FSB ... thats not problem, but on Striker II Extreme cannot to breakQuote:
Originally Posted by Orion24
350MHz ... with any multi ... anyone with 65nm Quad and SIIEx here? With my QX9650/X3350 is not problem to get 450MHz FSB but with Kensfield is not possible.
I need help... I loaded 702 bios and now OS will not load it saids it can not find hard drives? I am using Vista 64 and repair console doesn't see a hard drive installed. I tried reinstalling windows and it will install fine untill it has to reboot, an then I get a boot error. I have tried reloading both XP and Vista and tried to reflash to bios 0511 which I was using. I have tried bios 0701, 0702, and 0703, I have 0603 currantly installed. I loose hard drives after every install now. I have ran all the test on my drives and they pass and raid controller passes all test also. I feel like my MOBO is FUBAR again, the on boad chip is corrupt. I left battery out of MOBO for 24 hours also it made no difference, so should I RMA MOBO again or is my propblem else where ya think?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
i replaced my 8500 with a Q6600 for a weekend just for some tests.I had no trouble running it at 3600 using a TRUE120.
I managed to hit 475 FSB/4275 MHz(not stable) using my custom single stage
All tests while having quad-sli,raid-0 and 4x1GB ram "on board"
Bios 0507
What were your bios setting m8 i am stuck? can only get 3.4 think it was 1500 fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by cptkoulis
cheers
Sometimes when you flash the BIOS gets reset (in fact you should always load defaults settings after flashing, at least I do). In anycase go through all your BIOS settings and make sure your HDD settings are setup correctly for your setup! The default BIOS settings are not always proper for your particular HDD setup, that is most likely why your not picking up the drives when you load Windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwik
OBR - Any luck yet, doesn't make much sense? I've talked to two friends over at Guru3D who have been able to clock over 450Mhz with their Q6600 on the S2E (they were using 0508 and 0511 respectivly). Good luck man, must be frustrating!
Yes, I all ways clear c-mos and reset everything after a bios flash, problem it seems is boot files are not loading after system reboots. I can install Windows and get windows updates and change all may settings and load drivers and everything, but as soon as I reboot for the first time my boot file are corrupt, what could cause this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Try to raise your VDIMM voltage.. Just a bit (+0.02v to +0.04v) and see if that helps...Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwik
Yeah I didn't realize you had already loaded Windows (thought you couldn't get do that). With that said I think Magic is right, probably an issue with instability, specifically with the RAM (as the DRAM seems to be causing most of the data issues, either not enough voltage like Magic said, timings too tight, clockspeed too high), etc.... Besides that stuff now sure what it could be, I assume this has never happened before right?
I have tried loading with everything at defalt mobo settings, and setting everything at hardware manufacture settings, niether made a difference. when I clear c-mos the bios defalts to 2.4GHZ (450x6) kinda wierd. running Mem at 1333MHz or 1600 or 1800MHZ makes no difference so far, I am figuring bios chip has to be bad. just keeps loosing boot setting in both XP or Vista, niether OS will reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Post your setings for Q6600 ... i am at BIOS 703, i will try 0507 will seeQuote:
Originally Posted by cptkoulis
if my memory seves me right,it was:
memory UNLINKED
Loadline calibration ON
CPU PLL 1,6
CPU VTT 1,6
NBCore 1,54
SBCore 1,75
everything else @default/auto
some of these values may be very high
no big deal for me as i used the Qcore only for for a couple of hours/tests
I think my Striker is ready to RMA, i suppose my BIOS chip is bad ...
Look at my problems, if you have not similar issues ... my board will be RMAed.
1. If i set anything in BIOS, then Save + Exit, my board totally shut off. Its not possible to power on again, i have to unplug AC cord and plug in there again, after that Striker is ok and is booting with my previous settings ...
2. I cannot to break 350MHz FSB with kensfield (on X38 Express is stable at 3600MHz) , and after setting higher FSB (even 10MHz) board is not posting and on LCD panel is CPU Init. I have to reset CMOS.
3. This same happens with E8400 (on X38 Express is stable at 4GHz) and FSB higher then 440MHz. Board behave exactly like in point 1. I tryed every possibilities and settings (two ram kits too) and the same results ...
4. With Q9450/X3350 is max super stable FSB 450MHz with no problem ...
This is reason enough to RMA...Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
I wish they would stop using chimpanzees in their Q/A department.
:rofl::ROTF::clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by nuclearjock
Try throwing them a banana or two and they may just help you. :)
OBR - Yeah I have yet to have any of those problems (although I haven't tried a 65nm quad-core). I have however run an older E6850 with no problems at all up to 510Mhz FSB (but didn't have time to fully test stability). I have never had any major issue with the BIOS like you have either, interesting? I do know however that I'd probably go mad if I was experiences all those problems, especially because I'd know that eventually I'd have to deal with Asus customer service which will certianly drive me mad! If you do end up RMA'ing can you go through the vendor you purchased the board through or do you have to RMA with Asus? If you have to RMA with Asus can you please share you experience with us throughout the process? With that said it might be a bit too far off-topic so maybe it would be best to PM that information? In anycase I really hope your experience will be completly different than most (I'd love to be proved wrong about Asus customer service just once)!
Hi peeps,
Here is one for ya i am on 0402 bios and its been fine on 3ghz temps are mint and its been stable,
But one thing its doing lately is freezing at random times and i have to hold power button and restart:confused:
Is it worth a bios flash and which one is best?
cheers
For anyone interested, I could not get my Q6600 to run or boot at 3.6 using 400x9 settings, but right now, it's running very stable at 450x8, stock voltage on everything safe the CPU (1.475V). This is with BIOS 0507. I tried all of them up to 0601, but 0507 was the only stable one with that overclock. Might try one of the 070x releases, see if they can fix my SLI problems (sometimes my rig does some weird stuff when gaming, flashing screens, doesn't do them if I remove one video card or disable SLI, happens with nearly all recent nVidia drivers, be it beta or final).
That sounds like an issue with the SLI bridge, it could be seated incorrectly or faulty?
I finally got my new Striker II Extreme back from RMA. I went straight to BIOS 0703. I have exactly the same issus getting my memory stable at around 1600 MHz (Unlinked, and CPU at stock speed). I have not bothered to install my watercooling and I am using the Intel stock cooler and the stock TIM under the heatpipe system. I have messed around with the overvoltage settings but kept the memory timings at:Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
P1+P2: Auto, 7-7-7-20-2T, rest auto (I have tried tCL 8 as well). Memory voltage is set to 1.86.
At Memspeed 1600, unlinked I get random frezes, round errors within the first loop in SuperPi 32M. At defalult Memspeed (1333) I can pass 2 h OCCT RAM test and SuperPi 32M.
Am I totally ignorant here or is this MB just sucking big time? Does it require weeks of tweaking/woodo/wambojambo to run your memory at the rated speed even without overclocking the CPU on this MB? I think I have worked with this MB for some time (please read page 16-17 i this thread) I have a 2x2GB Corsair TW3X4G1800C8DF G on the way. If the result is the same I say no more SIIE and hello P5E64 WS EVOLUTION.
If you have any experiences with BIOS 0703 I should know about or important settings I may have missed please let me know.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
I had the same issues at 1600MHz with my QX9650, but I can run 1600MHz fine with my QX9770. Perhaps the later bios fixes the issues with your processor.
The new motherboard and/or BIOS 0703 is more unstable than the original SIIE with BIOS 0603. Will revert to at BIOS tested with the original MB
Trying memspeed 1800 8-8-8-24-2T gave BSOD and even 1500 is not stable within the rage om voltages tested.
Memtesting overnight at everything stock except primary memory timings and memory voltage (set to default as specified).
Have tried to disable SLI without luck. Will try to use only one graphics card.
Anybody else observing extreme jumps in the memory voltage reading in Asus PCProbe? I guess it is a software bug but my eyes nearly poped out first time I saw a warning message and a memory voltage of 3.3 V ;-)
Software readings can't be used at all, not even as "reference points" for comparisons on the same mobo with different settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
If you want to find out how much voltage your S2E pumps through your RAMs then use the measurement points in the picture ( about 2 pages back ) with a DMM ( Digital MultiMeter ) or just check the chart webwilli made using my measurements.
BenchZowner is correct (not that he needs my OK of course) but I would take your software "readings" with a grain of salt! If your not comfortable with using a DMM (multi-meter) to measure the "actual" voltages on the board I believe that BenchZowner has posted his own voltage read measurements somewhere around here? Although these voltages might not reflect your "actual" voltages it will be much closer than any software will be I think! BenchZowner do you remember where you posted those voltage reads?
Measurement Points:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
Striker II Extreme Voltage Measurement Points
Measurements:
BIOS Setting - BIOS Reading - DMM Reading - DMM Idle Windows - DMM Load Windows
CPU:
1.30V - 1.34V - 1.338Vs - 1.336Vs - 1.344Vs
1.40V - 1.44V - 1.438Vs - 1.436Vs - 1.446Vs
1.425V - 1.45V - 1.463Vs - 1.460V-1.461V - 1.47Vs
1.45V - 1.50V - 1.491Vs - 1.485Vs - 1.496Vs
RAM:
1.90V - 1.93V & 1.95V - 1.958Vs - 1.959V-1.960V - 1.963V-1.964V
1.92V - 1.95V & 1.96V - 1.978Vs - 1.978V-1.979V - 1.983V-1.984V
1.94V - 1.96V & 1.98V - 1.998Vs - 1.998V-1.999V - 2.003V-2.004V
2.10V - 2.14V & 2.16V - 2.159V-2.16V - 2.159V-2.16V - 2.163V-2.164V
p.s. I'll post more alternative measurement points later.
For the RAM there's one in the front side, in-between the two blue capacitors next to the last DIMM slot ( the one furthest away from the CPU ) on the top free pad.
Thanks my friend, very usefull information for all of us! Especially if we're too lazy to take down all our own data!
Usually with what I haven seen with S2E and many other Asus boards, it happens only if you are running applications like CPUZ, OCCT(which uses cpuz APIs) AND pcprobe at the same time. My theory is the software goes crazy during concurrent access of the voltage sensors or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
@bench, man you keep changing avatars but nothing comes close to your picture with a broken nose. :)
Thanks BenchZowner, actually I was not that worried about the PCProbe reading it was more a strange observation.
It seems that the MB is very sensitive to too much voltage (also reported by many others) so when focusing only on memory speed (leaving CPU at default) I gain stability by only increasing NB voltage, setting SB to 1.5 and leaving the rest at auto. I am still not stable at MEM 1600 MHz still tweaking...
I'm on 0703 right now using 2X2GB of RAM here's what i've found. Linked and sycnedQuote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
1600 = BSOD 7-7-7 20 2T
1610 Boots 7-7-7 20 2T sfc /scannow fails
1610 @ 7-8-8-21 2T stable sfc ok
For volts all auto except ram 1.86 and NB 1.46
Every BIOS revision I have tried BSOD's with the RAM at 1600 even. Getting H2O hooked up this week so I'll move to 1800 range and see what happens.
It's a shame for a 7-6-6-24 kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger5521
Time Asus gets this sorted out, OCZ 1600 is the most bought kit around, because it's nice priced.
Should run on the Striker at his rated speeds.
Trigger - I have found the same to be true (despite BIOS version) unless I'm running my QX9770 (than 1600Mhz works just fine, probably because 1600Mhz is the native FSB)? In anycase with my Q9550 or E8400 1600Mhz was a no go, although upping the FSB to only 1605Mhz made everything just fine! I hadn't used 0703 yet (still running 0511 because its been working just fine) but its good to know it doesn't do much for this 1600Mhz problem!
tekjunkie - Good point about running the different monitoring software at the same, I've also noticed it when running CPU-Z, Everest, HW Monitor, etc... at the same time. I have found however that if I open each program and allow it to fully load before trying to open the next one the problem is reduced?
Justifire - I think I would agree (although I'm not convinced its Asus fault yet as most of OCZ's RAM using same IC's as other high-end kits)! On a somewhat separate note the price of DDR3 ram is falling as fast as DDR2 did a while back (yippie)! Too bad I paid a whopping $349 for my Super Talent PC3-14400 RAM just a few weeks ago when at newegg right now their new kit of PC3-16000 is selling for only $279! Another question regarding some of the new 2000Mhz RAM available (most if not all seem to be CAS9) are they all running the somewhat new D9JHL or are some of them high-binned GTR? I've been very hesitant to try pulling the spreader off my Project X because of the way the heatspreader is attached? Last but not least Justifire YGPM
I also have problems running my memory sync and linked. For some reason I will boot but it will freeze or it would just freeze in memtest 2.01. I needed to go up to 1.55 for the NB to at least run for 3 secs memtest but it would still give error. This is with 1800:1800
Right now, Im going to test 1800:1600 to see if this is estable. If it is, Im going to be happy. I heard 0703 has a better compatibility with RAM.... I think tyke mentioned this.
OK fellas. For once I have good news (so far). I'm still only testing memory since I'm still on Intel stock cooler untill I'm sure the motherboard is not faulty. I know my settings (almost a underclock) does not belong at XtremeSystems but I'm just happy to finally (so far) be stable at a memory speed of 1600 linked, sync. My magic settings are the following (with BIOS 0703 and hardware in sig except for CPU/NB cooling):
Multi: 7.5
FSB-MEM: Linked
FSB/MEM: Sync
FSB: 1605
Memory timing:
P1: Auto
P2: Auto
7-7-7-20 2T
All subtimings Auto (no magic in this)
Overvoltage settings:
CPU: Auto
Loadline calibration: Disable
PLL: 1.5
VTT: 1.2
MEM: 1.86
NB: 1.46
SB: 1.55
GTL_REF0: -14
GTL_REF1: -16
GTL_REF2: -16
GTL_REF3: -14
(the magic was in the VTT, NB (SB) and GTL settings. So far I have passed SPi 32M, OCCT 2h RAM test and Prime 95 Blend for 2 h. I will Memtest overnight and if it's still fine tomorrow push the memory and FSB further to where it becomes fun (when raising the multiplier). BTW tomorrow I will get a 2x2GB Corsair 1800 MHz 8-8-8-24 kit.
I know this is only exiting for me but I am sure some of you know the feeling of frustration with this motherboard and the small things that fells like a victory ;-)
Great job Holmer, must feel good to get it running stable (uber clocks or not)! I'm happy that you got your RAM running at 1600Mhz, especially since your running 4GB! Also thanks for posting your settings, those can be very helpful to others with similar setups who are having problem like you did! Now the most important question, what is that stock Intel cooler gonna get replaced, lol?
Holmer...any luck trying to get the mem @ 1T command rate?
Thanks Roger_D25 :up: I appreciate your sympathy. Unfortunately Memtest v. 2.01 was far from stable. I get errors in test 8 in every pass, also if I run unlinked, FSB 1333 and MEM 1600. I even tried the the overvoltage settings for unlinked, FSB 1333 and MEM 1600 I found "stabe" before upping the FSB (the same as posted in #583 exceps SB 1.5 and all GTL_REF on Auto and this resulted in Memtest errors in test 8 as well :(. I could not even boot into Windows after running Memtest. So far this MB seems to have exactly the same issues as the first SIIE I had and RMA'ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger_D25
I will replace that crappy stock cooler with water on CPU and NB as soon as I am sure I'm not to RMA the MB again (right now the pain of tearing apart the w/c again is worse than the pain of running Intel stock a few days - even though it is considered as blasphemy around here LOL).
Anybody knows what Memtest test 8 errors translate to?
# Skinnee I'm sorry I can't afford the luxury of tightening the timings when I'm not stable at the rated speed and loose timings so I haven't botherd to test that.
Thanks for noting that. I did not even think of that, could be the case. I could also try putting it on the second SLI slot of the 8800GTX's. I'll report back sometime this afternoon, I hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roch
Update, following changing the GTL_ref 0-3 to +28/+26 it passed 4 passses Memtest linked, sync, FSB 1605 (same settings as in post 583) but made an error in test 8 during pass 5. My hope is slowly returning even though I have not tested these settings with Prime95 or OCCT. I increse the GTL_REF 0-3 to +42/+39 and proceed Memtesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
Good news for me too. 100% estable at 1800FSB/1600DRAM. Will post the screenshot once I get home. BIOS 0701.
Multi: 8
FSB-MEM: Unlinked
FSB/MEM: No sync
FSB: 1800
Memory timing:
P1: Auto
P2: Auto
7-7-7-21 2T
All subtimings Auto (except for tRC 30)
Overvoltage settings:
CPU: 1.32500 (With LLC, gives out 1.38 in idle, 1.39 in load)
Loadline calibration: Enabled
PLL: Auto
VTT: 1.30
MEM: 1.86
NB: 1.44
SB: 1.50
GTL_REF0: Auto
GTL_REF1: Auto
GTL_REF2: Auto
GTL_REF3: Auto
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I am 100% estable Prime95 25.6 running for more than 12 hours. UNFORTUNATELY, my P1 & P2 since they are in AUTO, they seem to be disabled since Everest gave me 8848Mbs for reading :( ! But this morning before leaving home, I enabled P1 and P2 and left it running Prime25... we will see how it goes when I get back home.
So far, I love the board and the CPU. I still want to give 0702 a try as well as 703 between today and saturday night. Just to not to be left with doubts on my head :)
I think Im one of the few lucky Striker II Extreme Owners who did got a decent board. Never had corruptions and I been running this board since first day I got it with more than 10 BIOS updates done. :):):)
i want to give a last chance to my SiiE before RMA, is here someone with Q9650 and 4GHz (400x10, 450x9) please post your GTL settings ... i tryed every possibilities and is not prime stable but at 333x 12 is rock stable ...
I was able to tighten my timings, the OCZ needs 1.9volts to do 1610 @ 7-7-7-21 sfc checks ok now. Memtest and prime ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Justifire
Now that I'm on water I tried a few higher runs quickly last night..1810 won't post with 1610's settings. 1705 booted but crashed running everest membench. Ran out of time to play with it further, but I didn't get any file corruption which is really nice for a change. Did 0703 fix file corruption? Anyone had corruption on 0703?
#slim142 thanks for your update + settings and congratulations with the nice result. Have you tested stability with these settings with Memtest as well since I have experienced to be able to OCCT and Prime for at least 2 h and still get Memtest errors within half an hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim142
Here is my update: I never managed to get my Corsair TWIN3X4096-1600C7DHX G stable at around 1600 MHz (either linked or unlinked to rule out instability due to FSB). However, yesterday I got a kit of Corsair TW3X4G1800C8DF G (2x2GB 1800 MHz Dominator) and almost to my surprise they are 6 h Memtest (9 full passes) stable at the following settings (stealing your template slim142 hope it is OK ;):
Multi: 9
FSB-MEM: Unlinked
FSB/MEM: No sync
FSB: 1333
MEM: 1800
Memory timing:
P1: Auto
P2: Auto
8-8-8-24 2T
All subtimings Auto
Overvoltage settings:
CPU: Auto
Loadline calibration: Disable
PLL: 1.5
VTT: 1.20
MEM: 1.76
NB: 1.48
SB: 1.55
GTL_REF0: +28
GTL_REF1: +26
GTL_REF2: +26
GTL_REF3: +28
Update: I have testied linked, sync at a FSB of 1800 and a multiplier of 7 (otherwise same settings) with Memtest and I have no errors after 7 h corresponding to 11 full passes. I just found out I can not boot to windows at these settings and not even pass one loop of SuperPi 32M unlinked, FSB 1333, MEM 1800. What a waste of time because I'm a noob and did not test the basics in Win before Memtesting.
Thanks Holmer :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
Here is the picture where Im 100% estable
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6...osforxsgj9.png
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Unfortunately, Im not 100% estable when I enable P1 and P2. I have tried raising the vdimm, raising vcore and nothing. Raising vdimm will give me error on thread 1 and raising vcore gives me error in thread 3. I have now increased NBv to 1.46 to see if this helps. If not, then I will try raising both vdimm and vcore at the same time. If this fails, then I will try vcore vdimm and NB raised at the same time. If this fails, moving on to BIOS 0702.
I would really like to know what voltages you people normally increase when you have problems when you enable P1 and P2?
Also, for my Q9450 running at 450Mhz FSB at 3.6Ghz with a CPU VTT of 1.30, what GTLRefs would be recommended for me?
any of u is using some SAS pcie controller?don't know which one to buy for our mobo
funny you're asking that in the Striker II E thread, as Asus made another mobo with the same chipset - 790i Ultra SLI -, a WS board with SAS on board: P5N64 WS ProfessionalQuote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
- NVIDIA nForce® 790i Ultra SLI™
- 2 onboard SAS ports
- Extreme energy saving with new HE 95 power efficiency feature
- ASUS EPU (Energy Processing Unit)
- Supporting 3-way SLI
- 4 x PCIe x 16 Graphic (dual PCIe 2.0 x 16)
- G.P. Diagnosis card bundled
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...82&modelmenu=2
How ironic...
jah i know that mobo..but only 2 ports is useless...i need atleast 4 ports upto 8 :)
It'd still be useless, due to the absence of a processor ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
No RAID 5/10, etc for you :D
i was thinking to buy thisQuote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
LSI MegaRAID SAS RAID Controller PCIe x8 128MB 8344ELP
with 4 savvio 146gb
but can't find actually a good controller here in italy or europe
Hey OBR - Well I'm not rocking the QX9650 but I'm using the QX9770 (4050Mhz, 450Mhz x 9.0x), at least kinda similiar? In anycase like you I'm still working on getting this stable because Prime95 (both Blend and Large FFT's) fail on core 0 after 1.5hrs 1.75hrs. Up until yesterday I hadn't touched a single GTL settings but after not making any headway with voltages or DRAM settings I've accepted its time to test GTL's! With that all said I'm sorry I'm not much help, just wanted to let you know your not the only one!Quote:
Originally Posted by OBR
Now what kind of stability do you get at 4Ghz (give or take) on your setup and where are you in GTL testing? Thanks for any help you can give!