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It does change the timings, that's for sure. At least it tries to tighten them if possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kougar
For example, if I set DRAM to AUTO and 5:6 ratio, memset performance level goes from 10 to 7 for Standard vs. Extreme. That's quite a bit.
And that's with BIOS 5Fh.
It used to change mem subtimings as well with BIOS' older than F5h (you could see them in CPU-z), but not anymore.
Nobody doing this yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
after all my tryings I can say this p35c mobo is a total :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
1 - there is a huge vdroop between load and idle. why the f. do ı have to vmod it to fix it?
2 - I did not understand :banana::banana::banana::banana: from vdimm voltage. If I set it to +0.3 it seems in speedfan as 2.21 and if I increase it to +0.4 speedfan shows it as 2.41. ı don't want to think what it actually give to the rams when ı set it to +0.5 and more. I give much voltage to the rams because ı have hyperx9600 modules set to work at 1200mhz at 2.35v
3- My system was rock solid at 490*7 with my p5b deluxe without any voltage to the nb and now I gave +0.3 to the mch and fsb and it is still not stable.
f4b bios was very problematic for me. now I use the f3a bios which seems better....
try reading some of this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
and yes it can be done
i'm satisfied for now and yes not happy with droop + vdimm voltagesQuote:
Originally Posted by kadir_slayer
i contacted gigabyte after 4 messages n responses by morons i finally got a response that board hardware is limited they cant do 0.05+ for vdimm i think its bs
but i still like this board over my p5b
i wish i got the dq6 lol lowfat wanna trade:rofl:
No problems with Big Typhoon here, I use a piece of cardboard and some paper folded up to cushion the Gigabyte copper backplate before mounting the rest of the Big Typhoon setup and Yes, you must use longer screws to make the clearance acceptable for the nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by megatron
Are we talking the same thread here? cause' there ain't no 2x2Gb ram posts anywhere in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
? what are the options in dq6 that the ds3r doesn't have?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Is there any issues using the Gigabyte raid controller and raiding drives?
Anyone have a "working" P35 DS3R pencil vdroop mod? The VR-Zone.com mod doesn't work... it gives you less vcore!!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=17
i have just installed mi p35 ds3p end i have a question: in wich mode i can measure the real v-dimm?? there is a software that can do it? easy tune and the bios don't show me the ddr2 voltage....and wich is the default voltage that this board applied to ddr2 ?
Has anyone experienced boot problems with DS4? Sometimes when I want to restart computer, screen just freezes and I have to push reset button. This is with shipping bios F4.
Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
The pencil P35 DS3R vdroop mod DOES NOT work. I did it last night and my volts tanked!!!! Normal 1.35 became 1.22 and load was 1.04v. I lost stability at stock settings... remove the mod and its running 3.6 @ 1.525, 1.44 actual now.
Sucks cause I wouldn't have ordered this board if I had known the vdroop mod didnt work.
EDIT - in fact just to test it again today. I made 1 swipe with #2 pencil. Booted up, voltage dropped from 1.49v to 1.44v idle at the 1.525v setting. Under load 1.44 dropped to 1.37 and the machine froze. SO, the pencil mod VR-Zone is touting actually LOWERS your voltage!!!!!!!!
I would be tempted to email them and tell them your findings.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
I already did... I just dont want others to do it and screw up something...or just have stability issues and unknowingly think it's the board. I havent gotten a reply yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by megatron
Definately not :p: Although I bet i payed less for my DQ6 than you did for yours. I only paid $166CAD :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
My board is not without problems. I couldn't boot for hours yesterday. It refused to post with anything more than 2GB of ram, it would just continually reboot (i am talking 10 minutes straight). I tried shutting off PSU, clearing CMOS. Nothing helped. Then bam for some reason it just started working again.
Although it might have been me accidently spilling a good 1/2 cup of water all over the motherboard :(
No doubt. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
please tell me whereQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
http://www.canadacomputers.comQuote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
It was a price mistake I do believe. It was before the official launch of P35 too. I only saw it at the price for a couple of days. I was going to buy another one but the price went up :(
well i rushed first place i saw in stock was ncix n they really got me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
they had 2 in stock n i rushed
i dont know why i rushed i had a board :rofl:
right now i'm running my p35t dq6 with 4gigs of rams.. each pair of ram tested stable at least 1450mhz, but with 4gigs, i cant find stability even at 1375mhz.. :(
So what ram is this with?Quote:
Originally Posted by irenic
I did not know that such ddr2 rams exist..
Guys, p35t-dq6 is a DDR3 board.
I think Gigabyte has decided to remove the silentpipe from their boards :eek:
See:
P35-DS3P (OMG!)
P35-DS4
P35T-DS4 (not updated I think)
P35-DQ6
P35T-DQ6
P35-DQ6:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/...35-dq6_big.jpg
P35-DS3P :(
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/...5-ds3p_big.jpg
got the ds3p (luckily with heatpipe) yesterday and well I think it is a quite good board but I think I need a better chip to really test it out - my E2140 is stuck around FSB 380 - doesn't like it higher, even with 7er multi :/
Yup, looks like the new boards are rev. 1.x instead of 1.0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutti-frutti
Hmm, either that was just a preproduction picture or it's true.
Either way, it's 6 phase on the ds3p, like the later gen p965-ds3 boards, which also didn't have cooled mosfets. Look at all the boards without cooling for the mosfets. For instance, my p5b vanilla and dfi p965-s don't have cooling, and the mosfets never got that hot. Maybe it's just the way it's implemented. I mean, from the start, those mosfets are supposed to dissipate heat to the pcb, instead of above the package
The "old" DS3P also had no cooling on the mosfets. But I think it has lost its beauty.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
Old DS3P:
http://image.thethirdmedia.com/artic...2316515319.jpg
I hope this will not result in lower overclockcapacity (Don't think so, since the p35 is an energy efficient chipset)
how do you read the v-dimm? vich software do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoF
Next week will arrive my boad (p35 -DQ6) and 2x2gb Gskill PC6400 rams. I'll send a message for u asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
Cya, csibe
second vcore in speedfanQuote:
Originally Posted by ztop
thanks for that, I'll have a look on it this evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
I wasn't sure if Everest showed the vdimm voltage (because I had one that was 2.1) but when I tried to go higher (expected 2.3) it seemed that it showed me something different but not vdimm.
nevertheless vdimm didn't seem to be a problem so far as my gskill was already running 575 with 5-5-5-15 with no errors.
My DS4 does exactly the same as yours with the E2140. I think we've really hit the proverbial fsb wall there, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoF
On another subject, I'm having some audio interference with the HDA that can't seem to get solved and I'm getting worried it's symptomatic of grounding problems. I've checked if the backplate was touching anything, checked the mobo risers and even tried it with washers on. Now i'm getting instability and last night i had something in the case crackle loudly :eek:
Later i'm gonna take the mobo out of the P180 and swap components to see if i can trace this.. :/
Hard wall. Mine is at 375 Mhz. Not a mhz more will boot. And 375 runs orthos at stock volts. I was hoping for 3.0 Ghz and thats all I got...Quote:
Originally Posted by puscifer
New official F2 bios for the P35C-S3:
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Moth...ProductID=2598
In regards the new revision to the P35-DQ6....this heatpipe design is the same as was seen at Computex in June, same heatpipes used to the X38-DQ6.
Personally i think it's not good and will give less thermal dissipation. It's cutting down and already solid design.
It's the NB heatsink that seems to have been alered the most, one of the MOSFET heatsinks have also been modified, dunno why they did this.
They probably did it because of issues with fitting big cpu air coolers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
it's kingston hyperx pc11000 rated at 1375mhz @ cl7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
how can i attached picture here? sorry very noob..
but i attached the pictures to my local forum... (mod plz remove the links if it's not allowed).
packaging:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...post&id=261368
cpuz screenies:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...post&id=261369
Very, Very nice. First 2Gb sticks of DDR3 I ever see. Love to see your adventure with this stuff. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by irenic
does anybody have P35-S3? what max FSB can it reach?
ıf there is someone has a p35c ds3r and using vista ultimate 32 like me, please tell me if your system freezes while shutting down. I reformatted twice but it is still the same. If I restart, there is no problem but when ı want to shut down, it freezes while shutting down. ıt simply doesn't turn off the computer.
DQ6 easy to do 5.0 hrs Orthos lge ffts with 2x2Gb Corsair PC6400, only the beginning with this combo, more to come. ;)
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...-5-182.15V.jpg
DANG!! I am having issues with 4 x 1GB PC2-6400 OCZ memory!!! Forget my earlier post. If I use 2 x 1GB my system is stable. Once I use all 4 sticks, I get a very unstable system. I am not OCing, the memory is set to SPD and the system is set to "standard" performance. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thank you.
What Voltages are you pumping through each mobo component and yer ram?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
In speedfan it's the first vcore the real that it's going into the CPU??
Yes, 2nd Vcore is VdimmQuote:
Originally Posted by DMH
P35-DS3P hitting hard fsb wall past 385fsb.
Other mem dividers except 3.0 ie 2:3 are not working
Any ideas
F4 shipping bios!
what CPU?Quote:
Originally Posted by JNav89GT
6320 retail
Realtek 889A codec drivers, ver. 1.71...nice to see constant updates from Realtek:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
everything is at stock
My system in my signature... Having troubles with overclocking... Every time I think I have a stable overclock, the computer will just randomly turn off, I will run orthos for hours... And then for no apparent reason, just reboots, even though orthos showed no errors...
Any ideas?
Its prolly the new Nvidia drivers. Mine started to hang up on a reboot with the new Vista Blow-vidia drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by kadir_slayer
It just depends on the processor.Quote:
Originally Posted by puscifer
As soon as I mounted my Prommi FSB wall raised to 395 stable, 400 dead-end.
Think I will go for a different chip next weekend.
http://de.geocities.com/prignozert/e2140/3200.png ... http://de.geocities.com/prignozert/e2140/1m_high_s.png
P35c-ds3r and E6300, 443fsb seems to be highest that i can do with this, it will freeze computer after that 6x or 7x so maybe thats the limit, F3b bios now, havent tested others if they help but i doubt it. Dunno if i lapped it badly but even now with tuniq tower 120 it gets +80c full load @ core temp / tat, lots of other software says ~15c less.
If it matters on this but some ppl say core temps shows 85tjunction but mine says 100.
Nice board anyway, havent got any problems yet :up:
maybe, because after installing 163.11 it doesn't freezes while shutting down any more instead the monitor goes blank but the computer is still onQuote:
Originally Posted by dnottis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Icefury
ı do 480 fbs 12 and more hours stable with +0.2 mch voltage and +0.3 fsb voltage and f3b bios
mine rach 520 bus orthos stable and all mem divider works well... i have the f4 bios and a 6320Quote:
Originally Posted by JNav89GT
figured out the mem divider issue. I had subtimings manually adjusted and board likes them left to auto, at least for my memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by ztop
I can run now 450fsb at 1:1 memory default mch, fsb, pci-x voltages, and I think default cpu voltage. However anything past that gets hard. 475 posts bios but nothing past. Even 6x multi. I took off NB heatsink and applied paste, no help.
Going to try some 6300 cpus I have lying around. Think I'm at cpu limit :(.
OK, but not the first time I hear of trouble with Ram & DQ6. Board can get very fussy with what and what combination of sticks you use. Heck even my Corsair Dominators would hardly overclock at all on my DQ6 & this is with F4 bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
They are all the same brand and model. Think I should RMA any of them or just wait for a compatible BIOS?
I would try them in another mobo with that same config, thats the only way to tell if its the board or the ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
I ran each chip by itself, each in different pairs and then all together and got no errors with Memtest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
I am at a loss....
This is on the DQ6?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
Re: NB Heatpipes. Were rev 1.0 based on the 90nm process as stated by Anandtech? Rev 1.x is 65nm, runs cooler and no longer needs the heatpipes? If it was just to make more room for larger HSFs, they could make the heatpipe shorter instead of replacing it with a standard Heatsink.
You should probably use a different program than memtest as it doesn't always register instability. My G.Skills would give random reboots but memtest wouldn't show any errors even after 11hrs. Orthos would only run for a minute or less before giving errors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
Not saying Orthos is the best choice but it's a start.
Doubtful. Intel never does 'just' a die shrink, if they shrink the die, they generally will give it a name change also.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobHarris
C2D E6850 @ 4ghz 500x8 1.5vcore (intel stock heatsink)
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
2x Kingston HyperX DDR3 @ 1500mhz 9-9-9-24 2.0vdimm
1gb HIS ATi Radeon X2900XT
Non tweak Windows XP sp2
PI 1m
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...post&id=262029
Thanks irenic & Interesting, can you do a 32Mb run? 1Mb sits in the cpu cache too much to see the ram play a part.Quote:
Originally Posted by irenic
i will definitely try 32m after i install my wc.. but for now the max stable PI for 1.5vcore 4ghz is 4m..
can someone teach me how to upload pic faster? coz in my local forum i use high reso pic .. and i'm afraid if it's too big for here..
I have a big problem,i bought a p35 dq6 impossible to assemble it the Vcore>1.525,in the bios information it is written "VCORE FAIL" but on my p5b deluxe
the cpu is more stable at 1,65 without problems.
Nedd some help please.
Thanks
Hey guys,
Under full load my NB goes up to 63C according to Everest, this is with FSB @451 and +0,15v. It seems a bit high to me but then I don't know how accurate this temperature reading is. What temps are you guys getting?
Yes. The complete setup is in my sig. I have been running on 2GB (2 x 1GB) of my 4GB (4 x 1GB) OCZ PC2-6400 Platinum Edition XTC for 2 days now and not one hitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
What´s possible max frequency with the Kingston PC11000 DDR3 s ?Quote:
Originally Posted by irenic
Any result?
1600MHz possible?
Boot and run Memtest+ 1.7v, and if it finds errors then you'll know why. If does or even doesn't find errors, you might try changing the RAM DLL setting to "Option 2". I likewise could run Orthos stable for hours, but have random instability in certain apps until I changed that one setting if my RAM was clocking over 1GHz. Coretemp would especially BSOD the system until I changed to Option 2, it made for a better test of stability than Orthos did. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by rob[GL]
i have a question i have a
GA-P35C-DS3R rev 1.1 F2 bios
are the bios for all the gigabytes p35 the same or are they specific , the reason i ask is because the ga website does not even show the rev 1.1 thanks.
i seen a F4 bios but i can't find it in the gigabyte support page thanks.
Thanks I'll give that a shot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kougar
I also disabled C1E + EIST.
I also removed the NB heatsink and cleaned the gum off, replaced with AS5.
I also added a new CPU cooler and NB fan...
I guess maybe I should have moved 1 step at a time, to figure out EXACTLY what fixed my problem... but I'm still in testing stages... Will continue to post in this thread with updates.
i've tested a lots of hyperx and the best so far is 1700mhz @ 1.8vdimm only. using cl9...Quote:
Originally Posted by BikerKS
for the one i'm using so far only i only test it at 1500mhz, cl9 2vdimm.. :D
After tweaking and testing the gigabyte bios,i found out some interesting things,such as:
Memory timing:
TRD means actually the Performance level from Memset.
TRD phase adjustement actually is a interesting timing,meaning that if you set it to 1 its a liitle bit slower and permisive,and setting to 31 its actually faster but i couldnt set 5 actually with this setting.At PF 6 i gained 100 kb from 1 to 25.
ooh good info! so you're saying you can set in the bios and not have to manipulate PF with memset? Just to make sure, this applies to 1:1 operation too right?
Are you able to get sub 50ns latency at 500fsb 1:1? That's my goal, and if so, I'd probably pick up a p35-ds3r right away.
Thanks!
Damn nice, i use memset 3.3b2 i think and i cant see performance level settings on it ;( if this works on P35C-DS3R i have to test it :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
This is P35C bios F3b with memset beta 2 and PL works fine on it...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...4-5cas4PF6.jpg
Strange thing that memset, well i need to check it again that i really am using that version.
btw anyone tested other than difference in memory performance on those different bios? F2/F3b/F4b F3-F4 ppl report big difference but is there any other things? better oc on some? fsb wall changes? temp changes?
Edit: oh and any change on that vdroop and mem overvoltage? or can bios even affect that?
So,the TRD timing and TRD phase adjunstement are the last timings in their section.If you set TRD at 6 you'll get performance level 6,if you set it at 9 you'll get 9.To make sure it will boot try with phase adjustement 1,after testing i found out that this is the most permisive one.Also,to get it stable with PL=5 you have to adjust Chipset Voltage.
Quote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
no matter how hard ı try, I couldn't run my memories beyond 1066 stable. do you think my cpu can be the problem? can you write voltage settings for 625 mhz? (mch voltage, fsb voltage, pci e voltage)
cpu:e6300 480*7:3360
ram: 2x1024 kingston hyperx9600@960 4-4-4-12
ps. which performance level is better 1 or 11 ?
Theoretically 1 but there is no way you will achieve this,the lowest everyone got is 5 ;)
Hi,
sorry for such a question in such a thread, but, which board is better to overclock, meaning reaching higher FSB?
Is the P35 - DS3R enough or is a DS4 better? Processor will be a E2140 (if the 45nm Quads come, something like this) with watercooler+chiller. The Mainboard will be cooled by water too.
Need Raid, SPDIF, 4 Ram Banks.
Sorry for my bad english, but it is years ago i wrote down a text.
Gz
UncleHitman
i got the same problem lolQuote:
Originally Posted by kadir_slayer
i can do 4-4-4-4@ 1050mhz but i cant do 5-5-5-15@1100 lol
all voltages maxed out
hey dudes, I just discovered the performance level setting in the memset. my performance level is 11 by default. I change it to 7 from memset (beyon 7 gives system crash at the moment).my memory latency decreased from 60.8 to 52.5. it is great.. questions...
1 - How can ı understand that it is stable at 7? should ı do orthos again?
2- what should ı do to make it permanent from the bios? or am ı doomed to change it from memset every boot?
I noticed on mine with memory set to 1:1 standard the performance level is 11. If I set it to turbo on 1:1 it changes the P.L. to 8.
What do you mean by performance level 11?Quote:
Originally Posted by road-runner
Yeah, with everything stock my performance level is 6... As soon as I start overclocking (even a little bit) my performance level automatically jumps to 12... At least now I know how to change it back! Thanks for the great info!
It reads performance level 11 in memset 3.3 beta 2 on standard memory setting in the bios and 1:1. If I change it to Turbo it changes to 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teccxpert
This is just *MY* observation... But I find that whatever I set my vcore to in bios, when in windows and under load, values are approximately 0.05v lower than what I set...
For example; In bios I set 1.4v
When I reach windows, and fire up orthos, and my monitoring software... Value reads as 1.35v
So if this is true, I should not be scared to set relatively high volts in bios, maybe up to 1.6-1.7v...
With mine set on 1.5 volts in the bios running orthos Everest reports 1.47. On 1.55 it reports 1.52 volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob[GL]
Unless your using a digital multimeter don't be too quick to start upping the voltage.:shakes: Software is very rarely accurate when it comes to actual voltage readings. So if you really want to know what your voltage is get a DMM. I wouldn't run 1.7v unless you can afford to replace your chip or your on phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob[GL]
Can anyone confirm alex-ro's findings on trd? Looking for the ability to not be dependent on memset after the tweaking process is finished.
Does anyone know a vcore/vdroop mod for the P35C DSR??
I need it really hard in order to use my mach2...
the max bootable vcore now is 1,6v bios which results in 1,53v with droop..
Please check this theard for pictures:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=147781