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I had the same problem. I installed via command prompt with this extension and everything worked well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkman Returns
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even if third party drivers are currently installed.
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I don't think your one card would be bottle necking this board now, my two cards on the other hand. :ROTF: Lee swears we are not bottle necking the chip-set so.. I am going to take off my north bridge cooling tonight and put some real retentions clips on it and some real TIM. I think this might be my problem at this point. I am stable at 470 now though so I am getting back up their slowly but, surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidkozat
try increasing vtt. I am pretty stable at 480 fsb, 1.32 nb and 1.30 vttQuote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
and stable at 485 fsb ,1.34 nv and 1.32 vtt
But the extra 5 mhz dont worth the fsb increase ,IMHO.
cheers
Am now stable at 480 fsb x 9 = 4.32 Ghz and the cpu score according to 3D mark is really good :rolleyes: but the Gpu score still down...:confused: if the card is running ok and the nb is good enough then it might be the PSU allthough i dought it am gonna try a different GPU and PSU.....
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Thank you sir, I will give that a go. I get my new memory today, that is gonna be sweet. I am going to try, to get my nb heatsink to sit flatter today. I might be sticking an old crazy cool plate from my gigabyte motherboard on the back of the nb cooler but, I have to figure out how to get it to stay in place without modifying the current chipset cooler incase I kill this thing in the future. That way I can still send it back and get another one if needed.
Update:
I took the retention springs and made them stronger by putting an extra little spring on each one to make everything a little more tight fitting. I am skipping the crazy cool plate because I don't know if it would help or not and it would be a little bit of work measuring for holes and drilling them and cutting it down to size exe.. My chipset cooler was a bent one like people have reported before, I think this might have been the issue.
Update again:
I got my memory and it is running at it's rated 1150MHZ (well close enough an way) at 1.8v Woot! Also this motherboard really does like alot of nb voltage. I know this for a fact because I tweaked my chipset heatsink to the max, or to perfection so it's not just overheating. I am now sitting at 475FSB. I managed to tweak my nb gtl to where it likes it which is .635 and I am running 1.46nbv! I slowly worked up to this voltage step by step and watched everything become more and more stable. This is with my whole chipset stock heatsink tweaked and officially 100% flat and with good TIM and stronger springs on it (2 springs on each retention button) and a little nice fan spinning at 2700RPM sitting right on top of it. My CPU Voltage for right now until I know that this thing is 100% stable and I reach 480FSB is 1.35v, I know it will do less because it did less on the Motherboard I sent back to Asus.
Here are all my settings that matter. I am open to suggestions:
FSB Frequency: 475
PCIE Frequency: 101
FSB Strap: 333
DRAM Frequency: 1141MHZ
Dram CLK Skew(s): Auto
Dram Timing Control: Auto
Dram Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training: Disabled
Mem. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clocks Twister (for now): Lighter
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performace Level: 8
Pull-In(s): Disabled (for now)
CPU Voltage: 1.35
Cpu GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .65
Cpu GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .67
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
Dram Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.46
NB GTL Referance .635 (Most stable for me)
SB Voltage: 1.2
PCIE SATA Voltage 1.6
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
CIE Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualzation Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
I have a thought, has any one measured their actual voltage being put to the NB with a volt meter, Lee?
Update still: NBV: 1.5! (1.5 Locked up on me, backed it down to 1.48 and I am tweaking gtls again at this point), FSB: 480, Ai Clocks Twister: Light
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8608/480fsb.png
man, your chipset voltage is too high. I would be aware of it.
That is insane especially on the stock chipset heatsink, that thing is garbage. Anyways I knot that the early revisions used to overvolt quite a bit on the NB.
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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
That is what I am thinking my old one was doing and I just didn't know it and this one is more accurate or, real to life (hell maybe this one is inaccurate). I ran that other one for almost a year or more I think. It never would run over 1.34v for the nband I had to run it at 1.32 to be stable at my 480FSB so... I can actually touch it and it isn't, running hot. :shrug: Not only that Asus programmed in the BIOS when to get better cooling 1.6v :rofl::ROTF:.
I just think this mother board can't hang period.. I miss my other one :slap::rofl:.
I wouldn't be surprised if you go over to the UD3P thread, people are pumping 1.4v+ to the NB quite often.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
One problem I had with my chipset heatsink was that either the heatpipes didn't work or the fins were just useless. I could touch the NB sink and it would be cool but the base on the other hand was way too hot for my liking under full load. The enzotech CNB R1 that I'm using on my northbridge weighs as much as the entire stock chipset heatsink and even that with a 40mm sunon straped to it can get a little warm.
That does suck, I've had pretty good luck with this board but it's about a year old now maybe more.
Can somebody with rights (admin[?]) make a sticky FAQ to this thread where the common questions would reside along with some successful overclocking settings (with their explanation maybe[?]) for duo/quad processors as an example for newcomers/newbuyers of this P5Q MoBos family.
Just recently got P5Q (P45) after my P5B Dlx (P965) got NB cracked a bit). Now I lost in such a progress in count of settings and their "stepless" precision.
However found that P5Q sets more correct DRAM timings in compare to P5B but this alas to worse side - P5B set a bit lower but stable(!) timings than SPD contained. Now i got worse performance of DRAM and troubles with overclocking cuz just incresing Vcore manually is not enough for nightly stability in linpack/LinX/. Thus i ask for FAQ with examples.
The main question is in which exactly sequence and which exactly voltages to tweak for stability?
Vcore(Vcpu), Vnb, Vfsb(Vtt), Vpll, GTLs, Vsb, Vdram?
What should go first?
On P5B i should only play w/ Vcpu, Vnb and Vdram for OC CPU+DRAM but now no stability on P5Q :confused: :shrug:
Hello
This my O/c
Asus P5Q deluxe+Q9650+Gskill Black 8500 C5 2*2Go
9*467MHz
CPU Voltage : 1,29
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,28
DRAM Voltage : 1.80
NBridge Voltage : 1.24
SBridge Voltage : 1,10
PCIE SATA Voltage : 1,50
I would like to increase my Ram frequency, unfortunately I'm stable only with 1:1 ratio.
Therefore what should be done according to you?
Increase Vram?
Increase vnb?
Try to find a better setting for NB GTL? (@stock for the moment). I should try a lower or a higher value for NG GTL compared to stock value?
Could you also tell if a "wrong setting" on GTL can be dangerous for system?
Thank you very much
Ok guys so about my score in 3D mark 06 problem I did so research and after testing i realised that my GPU need a PSU that is above 550 Watts and 12v of 40 Amps which mine is 10A http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135196 so even though tmy PSU is 800 Watts it would be sufficient but not powerfull enought to run on my new CPU that am now using Q9650 Oced to 4.3 so (before I had my famous Q6700 oced to 3.9) so basicly I now need a new PSU that is capleble fo providing 40 Amps for both 12v rails... Is gonna be really expensive to buy one for all the set up I used so Which PSU Do You Guys Recommend??
I can back this up as I used my GPU and others on differents boards and cpus but unfortunally I don't have a PSU thats good enough :shakes: .....
Get a Silverstone or a PNC, if I am saying the last one right. Also don't get Modular like I did.
Thanks do you have an advise on why not modular??Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
I forgot to say thank you after noticying that you told me how to do this I went ahead and did it and it worked. Wonder why it does that though? I have given up on my new board though. I ordered a Gigabyte UD3P. I am hoping I get a better overclock like other people that have it with my new Quad and new memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
The connections at the connecting spots get bad after some time causing issues in the long run I think do to corrosion, might be wrong there. I read that some technician for a big vendor "can't remember what company it was sorry" at one of these shows for PC stuff stated this to a reporter for a site that was covering the event. Kinda makes sense really if you have had any electronics classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidkozat
well is weird am doing Computing Engeeninring am any big company would of thought to use components athat do is not corrosive right?? :clap: anyway that the future modular do you know any particular model of PSU that is over 40 Amps on the 12v cos most of them cost like £ 100.00 isn't that too much for a decent PSU all i got is one bloody GPU (Gtx 275) and a cpu (Q9650) i might have to buy the cheapest PSU thats just got 40A and hot wire it with the one i got already lol! :ROTF:
I'm still using an OCZ GameXtream 600W with my GTX 285 and an I7 at 4Ghz... Once I start benching with that rig I hook up the Enermax Galaxy 1Kw... Don't go cheap on the PSU, it's one of the main components for a stable OC...
You will have to spend about $250 for a good one. I paid $260~ I believe for mine.
Ok guys so i followed your honest opinion as always and i decided to go for the 1000 watts Cougar 1000CM PSU which has 24A on the 4 12v rails so that should be enough to keep my GPU stable and the CPU too... :Dhttp://www.compucase-hec.co.uk/psu_cougar_cm_1000.htm
Asus Blitz Formula (P35) or P5Q-Deluxe ?
Processor: E8500, maybe E8600 or a quad.
What are ya goals ? I did 500FSB on my P5K Dlx with the duallies... quads was 450FSB... give the old lady still atry , very good solid board the Blitz !
@whatev:
I can sell you my P5Q Deluxe, it will get up to 460 stable but anything over that with a Quad is not, stable. I don't have a dualie to test. I am willing to part with it for say $80.
We`ll I`ve managed 580 with a blood iron + e8200 on air.
But, I want more. Without that crappy iron blood.
sheesh.
ok so am really disapointed now is f*cking supid but for some reason the gpu score is down still i got a 1000watts power supply with 112Amps and all and still no imprubement i really dont know what am doing to the board on my Q6700 hits 20100 score on 3D mark 06 now my Q9650 at 4.2 gets me barelly 19000 :rofl: and if i got above it will only go worse :shrug: f it time to get me a another gpu which one are the ones that consume lots of power and generate hit and cant play crysis or any game on anti-aliasing of 16xQ oh yeah A.T.F.I. lol ill try with a 4980 see what happens :shakes:
With the P5Q Deluxe...
I have it overclocked.
Is it normal behavior for the PC to turn off and back on again if the reset button is pressed?
I know if the PC is turned on from a full off state the normal behavior when overclocked is the PC to turn on and back off then on again.
But with RESET button pressed the PC turns off then on again... normal?
anyone help please?
Err, not quite following your question, but yes, that's what reset is supposed to do.
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Originally Posted by MonsterDK
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Originally Posted by -n7-
Hi,
Well I knew that when the PC is turned off and back on (full power cord pulled) that it would turn on and back off.
But when pressing the reset button usually the pc resets without powering off... but I was unsure if that was normal for the P5Q Del,
yeah it will do that to me also if i happen to not pass the overcloking set on the boards it also happens if you had your pc on for a while but it crashes and you want to restarted why pressing the button is normal behavier dont worry its just making sure if you want to change the clocks or not mate...
i can't get stable at 450mhz FSB... help, any suggestions???
im completely stable at 9x400 (3.6ghz) 8 hours of OCCT, and 20xPass standard intelburn test , but when i do 8x450 it doesn't even load into windows (or it crashes shortly after booting).. any suggestions would help
P5Q-E BIOS 2101
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 900
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
AI Clock Twister: LIGHT
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.28
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.635
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Comp specs:
What cpu have you got?? also try at the lowest memory and then try ocing it dont try both at onces if there is something i learned about overcloking is that the futher you go with the ram the less stable your system will get, also what ram you got? and dont go higher on the vPLL mate
Hey guys help me to get a 5 Ghz validation.
Validated settings in the signature is 100% stable (Linpack, Prime, F@H), but i can't boot windows @ 550+ FSB.
Here is my BIOS settings for 520 fsb:
Vmch 1.28, VTT 1.3, PLL 1.52, Vmem 2.00, Static read control Disabled, DRAM Read training Disabled, MEM OC Charger Enabled, Strap 333, Ai clock twister Moderate.
But even 1.5 @ Vmch and VTT doesn't help me to boot @ 550 FSB. Maybe I should tweak GTL?
Dude you are way to pushy and am very optimistic when it comes to ocing i like to go to the extreme even if is just for a screen shot but 5ghz?? i dont thing youll be able to..:rofl: what cooling are you running anyway ?? hope watercooling dude you def need to set the gtl both of them and set the vcore higher but i wouldn't recommended but lets not be a hypocrite if you wanna get near that you need more that 1.55v core, maybe; 1.60+ PLL, 1.5v FSBv, dont worry if you just wanna get stable enough for cpu id or something dont touch the NB GTL or the ram setting and try to underclock the ram as much as possible so ... 1:1 matey
He's not on a quad, He's on an E8400...
lol of course I don't even want to try to get a 5 Ghz screen on quad core. But I've got E8400 and pretty good air (TRUE & SilenX IXP-76-14)Quote:
Originally Posted by davidkozat
I know about Vcore, I was asking about bios settings for 550+ FSB. Looks like something is wrong cuz I can make 4.7 stable (but a little bit loud :D) but can't boot @ 5. Maybe something is wrong with RAM, but on my previous mobo (Abit IP35) it worked at 1100++ Mhz.
The board probably just can't handle it or you need more voltages then what your cooling can handle on the chipset that is.
I think it's the cpu that can't handle the high fsb/voltages due to inadequate cooling
OK thanks but I want to make one final effort with GTL tuning. Now they are on "Auto", should I decrease or increase them?
dude try to set the GTL's but am affraid there isnt a rule for all cpus you'll have to try and it will take you time i manage to hit 5 Ghz on older 65 nm cpu on my older p5wdg2 ws professional which was a pretty good board i was using 1.65 vcores which is a lot anyway use watercooling and with luck you'll achive 5 + lol
my ram is gskill. bus 1000 .. F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
i cannot run with 8gb ram, but my system was working perfectly with 6gb ram...
please, give me a solution.... i hate this board...
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AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 80
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.425
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.4
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
Try this plz :)
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.425
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.3
NB GTL Reference: AUTO --> try to play with this value !
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
Is the CPU stable small FFT ? with which program did you test stability ?
with my setting, 6gb is working perfectly, but with 8gb, it failed after some seconds booting to windows...Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
with 8gb, i tested with large-fft, prime95 always failed after some seconds...
but with 6gb, the system works perfectly stable...
Clock Twister - set to Light or Lighter.
Anothing thing to try is loosening the subtimings.
I found my Mushkin 8 GB was picky sometimes, so i'd loosen all the subtimings by one value.
I imagine there's only a few of them that affect it, but i haven't bothered to figure out which ones exactly.
All i know is that worked for me in some cases.
whats the differences having the PCIe freq on 101 ? ruther than 100?? i always thought to leave the PCIe frequency alone....
As I mentioned in the Maximus II thread, I'm having a lot more luck with CPU o/c on this board than the MIIF. Can't really get very stable above 450x8 with my Q6600, but on this board I've had a lot more success. The pic is with 459x8 and memory at ~1150
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...tableP5Q-D.jpg
I'm currently testing 460x8 with memory on 1226MHz, PL8, Moderate. So far so good after nearly 2 hours of blend, but I still don't feel I have the CPU GTLs tuned properly. (I do have the NB GTL down to a tee with x0.62). So far 0/2 is 0.660 and 1/3 is set to 0.655 with 1.32vtt. Has anyone else got their CPU GTLs tuned for Q6600? I would like to know roughly what to head for as I'm used to the +/-mv on the MIIF :)
Sorry to double post, but managed to crack >4.1GHz 32m stable for a brief suicidal run :)
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...01224Pi32M.jpg
Once again, beating my MIIF!
I always used 101, and never had any issue with it, some had the same experience with 100Mhz. This is an old trick we applied since... I don't even remember lol, for me anyway since OC'ing socket 478... this to avoid the PCI-E starts going bezerk when upping the FSB and to loose stability... all my P45 boards top at 103-110 PCI-E with my videocards... otherwise it won't postQuote:
Originally Posted by davidkozat
So PCI-E set to 101 isn't to increase stability in any way then? I see a lot using it, but I've only ever o/c the PCI-E bus to workaround a bug on the P5B-D which needed 110 in order to get the PCI-E lanes from 1x to 16x, but only when using >1.25vmch.
Between 100 and 101 range you are right. But to clarify leaving it on AUTO eg auto overclocks it and might result in unstability... if it works for you at 101 okay , if it's 100 okay too...
Would you be so kind to test how high you can set it with your videocard... I had loads of issues posting with GTX cards over 105 with the P5Q Dlx (though I sold the board and last bios series was 15xx )
Yep, I can do, but testing atm. will try in a few hours when I'm back for lunch, and assuming prime has failed, otherwise i'll do it tonight :)
I can confirm that 105MHz PCI-E results in no POST whereas 104 works fine. Tried 110 too but no joy.
am just wondering if 101 will brimg stability on the board like you said on high fsbs am a bit scared though last time i try 110 on the pci-e fried the board and took out the card with it :mad: my 8600 gts lol but ill try 101 see any differences on the results am backing up my data which ill be a couple of day cos am raiding 0 on 2 Tb and one of them is failing and making everything dead slow so before ill lose it all am trasnfering it and am gonna use the normal HD use i dont particular think that intel raid is any good to be honest :shakes: anyway it says its gonna take 2 days to move it all :ROTF: so hopefully it doesnt crash on the way :D
I'm not certain it will. I think most people do it because it gives them a teensy bit more GFX speed (correct me if I'm wrong).
No, it can help with crosstalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by In-Fluence
Fair enough, I stand corrected :)
Got 462x8 stable with memory at 1155:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...tableP5Q-D.jpg
Finally beat my P5B-D overclock by 6MHz! Might try to see what I can get with 1.5v as temps are still about 5°C under threshold, and it's getting cooler outside by the day.
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by In-Fluence
What are your voltages/settings?
I've gotten ~ 465 stable in the past, but with higher FSB/NB voltages than i'd like.
I'm presently getting stuck @ 456-458.
Seems increasing the vFSB or vNB by a small amount isn't working for me to get higher. :(
Gonna likely have to mess with skews & much higher vFSB/vNB.
CPU Voltage: 1.25625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.645
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.645
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.64
PCIE Voltage: 1.5
SATA Voltage: 1.1
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
http://ense7en.com/pics/q9650/Q9650%...0%20passes.jpg
I'll post my settings here once I've finished another test. One thing that was key for me was the clock skews which I have at normal/300, but I suggest you use trial and error to find your best ones. On both boards I found that delaying the NB more gave me better stability at higher fsb.
On what test does it fail? Large FFTs? If so, I would recommend higher NB volts as it's a bit low imo. Mine is at 1.4 with GTL at 0.62
So yeah...gotta love how it's 8 GB LinX "stable", but it locked up P95 Large two lines in.Quote:
Originally Posted by In-Fluence
Yes, Large FFTs are giving me teh lockups.
It's NB-related, no doubt, though i will also have to drop down from 4:5 to 5:6 to go much higher.
Back when i had my Q9550 & initially got my Q9650, i had 465 stable, but was using 1.36 vNB/1.34 vFSB or higher, & i was hoping to keep those lower this time around.
I also was using -100 CPU skew & -200 NB skew.
It seems i'm going to have to bust out using my old higher voltage settings, & see if they work.
Upping to 1.28 vNB caused the lockup to be delayed till about 8 lines in.
I
Try Large FFT settings in custom with run ffts in place unchecked and all of your available ram enabled, now thats rough. Actually made me either BSOD or just lock up fast while I was HCI Memtest, IBT, blend, and small fft stable. Long runs, too.
Just ordered a P5Q Premium from Newegg. Been itching for a new board for over a year. I plan to use it on a watercooled E8500 and EVGA8800GT and GSkill Trident 2x2Gb DDR2 1200. My original plan was to use this board as a server because it had so many SATA and USB ports with my Q6600 and Corsair Dominator 4x1Gb 1066. But I think it's going to replace my Maximus Formula, I mean Rampage Formula ;), for my main/gaming machine. Just posting because I was wondering if anyone with a similar setup could tell me some speeds to expect.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
It doesn't seem to do much for additional RAM stressing for me, but perhaps it needs exact values?
What exact settings for my 8 GB?
ok guys this post is not related but just wondering if you know the problem every time i try to unrar a archive that like more than 20 gb my ram will go crazy and run out dry and when i stop it it will stay used but if i cancel it it will go back done as normal..?? am using vista 64 bit and it just randomly started happening do you guys know whats causes it? it must be something i enabled by accident right?? LOL
Never mind guys i installed Services Pack 2 for vista and it seem to fix the problem am also try to get my windows media player 11 to run on 64bits like its suppose to but it wont ? LOL.... welcome to the wonders of microsoft
Anyone help me, why i don't get over 4.6ghz my e8600 with P5Q-e? I test about this settings, but orthos stopped in 10-20seconds. 4.4ghz orthos running over 8hours perfectly (vcore. 1.39v) Little bit bigger vcore is not problem because prosessor cooled with water.
CPU setting
CPU ratio: 10
C1E support: disabled
Max cpuid value limit: disabled
Intel virtualization tech: disabled
CPU tm function: disabled
execute disable bit: disabled
(if something missing all settings are disabled in cpu settings page in bios
FSB: 460
DDR: 920
memory manual
5
5
5
15
CPU voltage 1.4-1.58v
CPU PLL: 1.5-1.6
FSB termination: 1.18-1.22
DRAM: 2.1v (default voltages g.skill 1066 5-5-5-15 kit)
nb voltage: 1.2-1.34
sbridge: 1.1-1.2v
pcie voltage: 1.5v
load line calibration: disabled
CPU spread spectrum disabled
PCIe spread spectrum disabled
I am very thankfull if somebody can help me with this problem. Prosessor batch is unknown, because prosessor is sanded on copper, revision are E0 if cpu-z talks right :)
even on water you can't make it, I have hardly seen a watercooled CPU do 4.6Ghz Prime or Orthos... you need better cooling for that ! Water ain't gonna cut it...
@LassiVV
I assume you've tried enabling load line calibration to see if that makes a difference? What are your temps like? 4.4GHz isnt bad at all, but you'll be lucky to push a lot further. Only other things I can think of are CPU/NB Skews which had quite an effect on my o/c at ~460fsb. Try delaying the NB 100-300ps, test each one and see if that helps.
For the record I'm now testing at 462x8, but with the 400MHz divider, giving me ~1230 mem speed (with PL8). Memtest stable overnight, and 5 hours into blending - looking good! :D
I only got about 100MB/s bandwidth gain over the 266 divider (or 333, can't remember) and mem at 1158. Will try for strong/stronger too, but I feel the limit is nigh :)
OMG Guys it still going on when ever i extract a Rar file bigger than 4 gig it will eat all my bloody memory i dont know why is happening and is really annoying cos it runs out of RAM and the system becames realllylylylyyy slow!!
Sounds like a software problem to me, try google or other archive software - 7-zip is good.
Also check your filesystem isn't set to FAT32.
All my HDD are NTFS lol and i also use 7 zip but it doesnt unrar files that arenot .7zip very well.... it weird cos i try loads of different edition on winrar and it only does that when i use vista 64b ??
What about the RAM, this board and E8600CPU should be in the 1200+ FSb range shouldn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
His RAM is abit lacking... Even so, 4.25GHz aircooled seems to be the acceptable norm eh?
EDIT: Just got me board and RAM: Wooo! will update sig soon...
He'd better get 4.5 stable with 500 FSB then trying to do 10 x 460FSB with far lesser bandwith... Prolly more FSB term volts are required, 1.22 for 4.6 ain't gonna cut it... but like l I said, I have rarely seen prime shots of an E8600 at +4.5Ghz under air or water...
Davidkozat try another OS mate and see what happens...
Almighty Leeghoofd i really not happy changing my OS as i like vista 64 a lot and am just wondering if there were something i could dude to fix this problem thats all....
Most of us think it's software related... hence why it would be good if you could try another copy... how much free space do you have on the C drive ? Or on the partition where you are unrarring ?
And check your virtual memory settings. Perhaps add a paging file of unlimitied size to another drive?
Strangeness.
I moved recently, & as room temps at this basement are significantly cooler than my previous place, i've been working on the OC again.
More 8 GB action @ as low as i can keep the mobo voltages:
CPU Voltage: 1.26875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.645
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.645
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: 0.64
PCIE Voltage: 1.5
SATA Voltage: 1.1
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : -100
NB Clock Skew : -200
Small FFTs
http://ense7en.com/pics/q9650/Q9650%...%203%20hrs.jpg
HCI (was running P95 at the same time but it basically didn't go anywhere)...
http://ense7en.com/pics/q9650/Q9650%...0%20350%25.jpg
Presently working on Large/blend.
LinX is an evil mother w/ 8 GB.
Temps are ridiculous compared to P95, & i need to use two full vcore notches higher just to get things almost stable.
It did 12 passes before deciding to lock up system (likely needs more vNB), & honestly considering how insane the stressing it does is compared to real world, i don't think i care...
does this board suffer from S3 sleep issues like the gigabyte ones.
Not that i've had or ever seen anyone post about.Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
I have had a weird issue where the HDDs on the Marvell SATA ports don't show up after resuming from sleep, but it could very well be just me as i am using the default drivers Vista loads & haven't really looked into it at all (i don't use sleep anyway).
i got plenty on free hard drive space and also virtual memory... tried 2 different versions of vista 64 and it keeps doing it .... might try 7 later on
Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
No. Even if you're transferring an old installation that didn't have S3 set up correctly, there's an option in the BIOS to force S3 sleep whenever a sleep mode is initiated - everything goes off including case/CPU/power fans, even if your OS is only set to do S1.
its still happening even after i installed windows 7 64b after getting really angry and throwing my keyboard around lol... i researched a bit and realized that i had running on the task manager svchost.exe like 7 times and one of them was sucking all my ram 158,000 K under the memory on task manager apparently there are viruses that can hide behind that host process for windows services.... :confused: anyway i honestly don't know what to do... :shakes:
Lower ya OC and see if it then still persists... try just eg 400FSB with rams at 1000mhz or 1066...
It does it wherether I OC or not mate it might be same kind of virus that has copied after i installed the New OS... windows 7 is great
Or a virus in the file(s) you are working with ? Seems weird indeed as I have compressed decompressed large movie and Iso files on just 2gb ram rigs...
Honestly, try a different bios. Sounds like what was happening before I got my OC stable after I went with 8GB. I was HCI Memtest and IBT stable but would have odd issues and just wouldn't dump ram. So it would just sit at like 7+ GB of ram being used then slowing down.
Hi,
I just installed a SSD (intel x-25m 80gb). I have windows 7 x64 ultimate installed on the SSD.
I got this result with HD-tune,
HD Tune: INTEL SSDSA2M080G2GC Benchmark
Transfer Rate Minimum : 98.8 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Maximum : 131.5 MB/sec
Transfer Rate Average : 127.2 MB/sec
Access Time : 0.1 ms
Burst Rate : 97.2 MB/sec
CPU Usage : -1.0%
What is wrong? My board P5Q Deluxe support SATA2, but it goes as SATA1? Is this a BIOS setting issue?
well there isnt a virus on the rar file all they are is pictures am trying to un rar lol i might try to get an external HHD and back my stuff on it and then do a complete format of C see what happens cheers
I have 2x1GB crucial ballistix tracer 8500 ram and currently running the settings posted below. I recently bought 2 more 1gb sticks of the same ram and trying to get the system stable again.
any tips on settings i can loosen to get it stable fast? at the moment i can get into windows and burn cd's etc but memtest fails straigh away. any help appreciated
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 478
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1148
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: 10
CPU Voltage: 1.41875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
so i finally sent my board in for rma last week, site shows they received it and are in final testing. i hope they just send me a new one, and by that i'm assuming refurb.
hoping they do me right!
Bootable Memtest86/86+ failing?Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya_au
It is LinX/HCI/P95 stable?
Your issues might be NB related also?
You might want to look at setting Clock Twister manually.
I find at higher speeds with 8 GB at least, it needs to be @ Light or Lighter, whereas it can do Moderate at lower speeds.
Also maybe try enabling Read Training & OC Charger.
I'd say you may need more NB voltage considering how high your FSB is.
I havn't tried prime yet. i usually get the ram stable before i enter windows because i've had bad experiences corrupting my windows install with unstable ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by -n7-
I tried increasing the NB voltage to 1.3v, clock twister to light, PL to 10. didn't help get it memtest86+ stable. would Read Training & OC Charger help much in terms of stability?
I've so far got it all stable at 4.2ghz by dropping the FBS to 467mhz and in the process reduce the vcore, vram. i figured i wont notice a 100mhz hit and lowering the voltages is a good thing.
i'll try out your settings sometime this week when i have more time. thanks though :up:
Guys, have you noticed this disparity? Some P5Qs need 1.2x voltage to do 500fsb with a quad, and others (Like mine) need 1.5v+ to do 500fsb. Is that alright? My NB doesn't really go past 40c "Blend" priming at 1.5v... but I don't know how much the P45 can take without degrading.
agreed, mine has a great revision.
so asus is sending me a new serial number from the board i sent in. the number looks to be much later than the one i sent assuming they number them in order.
are there different revisions to the p5q deluxe?
Hello everybody.I have a q9650 and a p5q deluxe and i cannot hit more than 3.8ghz on cpu(425fsb).Can you help me please to reach 4.05ghz(450fsb)by giving me some settings?
Plz fill in this template ( P5Q DLx template) Hydrus with ya current setup
also list ya full hardware plz ( ram and their specs, cooling, etc)
Dunno about revision nrs mentioned on the PCB itself, but the newer models got the newer revision of the NB like the Gigabyte UD3P models have...Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito
AI Overclock tuner: enabled
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: 1133
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: adv350ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: adv350ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 4
READ to READ Delay (S): 6
READ to READ Delay (D): 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 4
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 13
READ to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: DISABLED
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Clock Twister: moderate
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: ENABLED
CPU Voltage: 1.287
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
NB Voltage: 1.22
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
CPU:INTEL Q9650
MOTHERBOARD:ASUS P5Q DELUXE REV. 1.03G
RAM:4GB MUSHKIN SP ASCENT 1066(they can hit 1190mhz with 2.1v and 1200 2.2-2.3volt)
GFX CARD:SAPPHIRE 4870(512mb)
POWER SUPPLY:CORSAIR TX750W
CPU COOLER:THERMALRIGHT ULTRA 120 EXTREME
HDD:WD CAVIAR 640(blue)
Try the above mate, save ya current setup and then put all mem and subtimings to auto again besides 5-5-5-15 TRFC 55... then apply above changes... could be that for +450 FSB action you need to go higher on the FSB term volts...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrus
I will try and i will inform you about the results.Thanks :) i would like to ask you something more....will be any problem if i use cpu ratio 9 instead of 8?Of course after increasing cpu voltage...
I would try first 7X or even 8X multi mate, just to rule out CPU Vcore... quads are harder to setup on these mobo's...
OK i will try and i will inform you...;)