Anyway You could share them? Since I know Fugger has shared some bios before. Or are you under NDA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
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Anyway You could share them? Since I know Fugger has shared some bios before. Or are you under NDA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Told not to share, plus it has a few issues
tRFC effects all boards with options below 54 on DDR2 and 130+ on DDR3
Well, i'm testing a Asus P5E3 Dlx with 2GB OCZ DDR3 1333 Platinium Series (7-7-7-20, 1.84v) @1600mhz and so far no problem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
System with 2GB DDR3 @1600mhz runs faster then 4GB DDR2 @1200mhz on Vista64.
Can decide what board i should keep.... :shrug:
if you want my honest opinion i would say 8GB DDr2 around 1000 or so is killer with vista 64, i have actually grown to like vista with all the testing but it does need the 8GB.
But where do you see that 8GB kills 4GB?!....Games, SO boot/shutdown, applications access?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Thanks for all the info! :up:
Can you share what those "issues" are? Are they new issues that 907 doesn't already have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
After putting in 4GB w/ Vista 64, I almost wish x86 had never been released. So it gets better? Where/how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Are these bad results? Hope not I spent to much money if they are. Also Everest said 72ns latency on memory why? thats bad too isn't it. what do I change?http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...TUREMARK06.jpg
post your bios setup, with that chip I would have expected much higher scores.Quote:
Originally Posted by jorgito05
What ram do you have and how many sticks?
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...verclocked.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
OK, got a little better. Bios now set as Follows:
AI Overclock Tuner: (manual)
CPU Ratio: (8)
FSB Frequency: (400)
FSB Strap: (400)
PCIE: (100)
Dram Frequency: (800)
Dram Comand: (2T)
Dram Timings: (auto)
Dram Static Read: (auto)
AI Clock Twister: (auto)
Transaction Booster: (Disabled)
Relax Level: (0)
CPU Voltage: (1.3)
CPU PLL Voltage: (1.52)
NB Voltage: (1.35)
Dram Voltage: (1.8)
FSB Termination Voltage: (1.3)
SB Voltage: (1.075)
CPU GTL: (.063x)
NB GTL: (.067x)
Channel Ref A & B and Channel Control Voltages all: (auto)
What do you suggest?
2nd that, I haven't heard of this yet. I have had issues with my USB mouse and sometimes keyboard on the MAXIMUS FORMULA when on the 901-907 BIOS. mostly in 903, since I used it more, where mouse would just drop out of detection leaving me to have to unplug and replug and it was good to go. It happened mostly on resume from S3 or long screansaver activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
Haven't had any feedback yet on teh ACPI S3/S4 failure in BIOS v0907. Am I the only one then? I quickly recverted back to v0802 because of it. I was fine on that for a while till this recent attemp to move back to v0903.
Just curious!
My Maximus and Q6600 died :( :shakes:
Oh man...that sucks.
When's the funeral?
j/k
Any idea how?
I thought mine had died the other day , would not post at all , even left the battery out for 24hrs then took it over to my brothers to do some fault finding using his bits and up it came with all my componants in , very strangeQuote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
Like I've said in other threads, I think a Batch of X38, More specificity the ASUS Maximus forumula first few batches. Were bad. As I reported though out the Maximus thread i kept having odd undervolt problems, Just Like overvolting, Undervolting can degrade stuff. Mainly The CPU, Chipset, FSB VTT and Memory were all undervolting, Like One second it would be normal, then the next like 1.0 on the memory, 0.8 on the Chipset and such. I guess thats what killed my Q6600, My Maximus and 2GB of my memory (the PC2-8500 sticks)Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
hey warboy i am sorry for your loss, My maximus went also flakey last week but I sold it just in time...... Not sure if I am going to jump in the same wagon again but with the rampage flavor....
I did notice that my system would hang if ACPI was set to AUTO, once it was set to S3 it would resume without a hang this was on bios 907 and 903, 802 never had an issue. Unfortunately 901 would not play well for me and I never tested itQuote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Very sorry for your lossQuote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
Quote:
Originally Posted by mc2k
Yea it sucks, from what I can tell. Both the CPU and the Motherboard are no longer stable at any clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Yeah. My first Maximus had a bad memory voltage regulator. Took my Team Xtreem ram with it. Let's see how the second one does...only been a few days so far. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
You mean they're not dead then? Also, when you power on the machine, does the system power led turn from red to green? The only way you know your cpu is dead is if it hangs on cpu init all the time. Even then, I'd still test it in another mobo just to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/Warboy/Broken/Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
and When I get it to boot into windows, It reads 90C on all 4 cores now. and Then Shutdowns 5mins later.
So I'm confused, and Disappointed.
PS. I'm using my Dell Microns (D9s) to get it to semi-work. and that CPU Failure pic was after i had a random reboot. And It hung several times on CPU Init
Are u sure the CPU is back to stock clock? If the mobo tries to pull 3,83GHz with the stock cooler, no wonder why it hits 90 degrees...Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
Just did some testing today and thought it is useful for beginners at least. NB voltage 1.25-1.65V
Of course i did it at stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by S1mon-
Sorry for your loss, Warboy! :( I think you just convinced me to use my Blitz over my Maximus now... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
I think the Blitz has always been a more stable board and I don't think I need any of the extra features the Maximus offers right now.
I'm going 24/7 Phase Change in a few days and want the best board for the job...seems the Maximus isn't up to it.
Mine is still being flaky, but right now the opposite way, after my thread about degredation on the board/Q6600 they are now back up to max clocks with no changes what so ever... :confused:
Well, I think ASUS rushed the Maximus and I got one of the very first batch so hopefully a RMA fixes it. I'm going to call up ASUS and Intel tomorrow and make them give me advance RMAs on everything and crucial too. So I know I'm getting all new stuff. Even try to push ASUS and intel to upgrade my gear. Like a Q9450 and a Rampage :p: but i doubt they will do that, Maybe Intel since they are always cool but ASUS is tech support is in India or something and its really annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Could you tell us your bios settings?
Is it just me or Asus has forgot to update the bios for Maximus Formula ? :D
My thoughts exactly. I just figured they were waiting until the Rampage was out to update the formula... hopefuly with some additional settings. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkY
yeah well. if asus does this i wont be buying asus again. abit for me. ;)
I suggest you go back further in the thread and read Tony's posts regarding the "beta bios," TRFC and the Chinese New Year. Sheesh! doesn't anyone read before posting anymore???? :rolleyes: You might try starting at post 5420.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkY
Hi, yes the Chinese New Year holidays only finished on the 15th so some updates might filter through before the end of the month...Quote:
Originally Posted by WFO
Chris
My maximus just went funky. crashed and refused to boot. Nothing on my poster. Is this the end? Anyone recomend another good X38 board in aus. As i am purchasing my second X2 soon.
Well I will say that is a bit overkill. I run 4GB 64bit Vista Ultimate with no swap file. Never had an issue with it, think the highest ram usage I have seen it has used is about 2.5 gig, that is Lotro which use alot of ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
JH_man
board going in for 4ma after an hour on the phone with asus, going on ebay as soon as it gets back. DFI X38 inc.
Guys, don't be so quick to abandon ship. I see similar complaints on nearly every brand and type of MB thread. When you push any board up and down and tweak this and that and reach for the sky, there are bound to be casualties. That doesn't mean the whole lot of any given piece of hardware is necessarily defective or faulty. More likely something spiked. There is no perfect product out there that can take all the tweaking and abuse without some failures.
Where is the rev. # printed on the Maximus Formula?
Can you size down your sig >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by ericab
Thats what i got on my early stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virous
How was you on the phone with ASUS, They was closed when I called because of a Holiday (Which is gay...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Virous
Looks like a few of us are having issues with the board. I am on my 2nd board as well and so far it's looking to be stable. *crosses fingers*
I cut off the heat pipe running from NB to SB at the NB block so that I could use a custom SB cooler. What does this mean if I ever need to Warrenty the board? Not sure how picky Asus would be if it came back without a heatpipe going to SB lol
VoidQuote:
Originally Posted by dude_500
ok :( I guess that's what we do is void our warrenties lolQuote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
Maybe if it ever becomes an issue I could just pick up a new cooling system from someone who doesn't need it anymore.
And you think someone will sell it to you and maybe unfortunate his mobo dies and he has to search for a full heatpipe himself... :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by dude_500
man 8GB is cheap, why not run 8GB?Quote:
Originally Posted by JH_man
If you're not a huge bencher/cruncher, there's no reason to get it if you'll never use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
That being said, I can see your point. DDR2 prices will only drop now too, since we are going to be seeing a lot more of DDR3.
I've seen it done many times on other motherboard threads for this same reason. Some people are willing to sell a part they won't need for $15 because they assume theirs won't burn out. Life's all a gamble I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Maybe. Supply and Demand. If supply is low on DDR2 because most have switched to making DDR3 but demand is strong as many have swayed off from upgrading to DDR3 systems, then DDR2 prices won't fall but increase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ymir
NFI, im aussy??? either way. Update i took the board out. Took the battery out overnight. left it sitting. Poured some flux over the board and hit it with the hot air pencil mainly around the NB. generaly if you hear a slight pop when fluxing with a hot air pencil its a component shooting off meaning it was buggered. Nothing like that. Put the board back in, Fired it got a DETRAM ( i had the sticks out...noob :ROTF: ) Put my stix in and away she went. never ran better. i still need to lower my NB voltage though but ive got it at 400mhz. 1,61 still may be too high.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
lmao of course thats void, man thats a crazy thing to do, i sure hope you never have to send that back. theyll take one look and send it right back to you. best of luckQuote:
I cut off the heat pipe running from NB to SB at the NB block so that I could use a custom SB cooler. What does this mean if I ever need to Warrenty the board? Not sure how picky Asus would be if it came back without a heatpipe going to SB lol
I've seen many many requests for original heatpipes, surely with the Strikers and co, till now didn't see much response towards the person in need... I really hope you can find one and RMA the bugger...Quote:
Originally Posted by dude_500
@Vious : I run 400FSB at 1.47volts mate, all depends too if you run your ram at high clocks... if I set 1200mhz for the ram I need to up NB to 1.59 to be stable in benches and co...
Hello folks!
I own a Asus Maximus Formula SE and it worked perfect for 2 months now. I overclocked my E6600 to 3,3 Ghz and used OCZ titanium alpha memory with nearly 1000 Mhz@ 2.3 Volts. VGA Card was a HD3870.
Then I exchanged the HD3870 with a 3870 X2...worked fine for 2 weeks until my board began to hang with the LCD poster "DET RAM"....i thought, well OK...one stick died. Indeed it did, one stick worked perfectly. After replacing the memory sticks, suddenly the 3870 X2 began to suck. The computer was booting normal, but the vga card didnt give a signal to my display and it remained black....the fan was crying at full speed :mad: *RESET*....same stuff....*REST* same stuff. After some CLEAR CMOS actions, it started but no overclocking possible. each restart ended in black screen, computer booting....WTF?!?! I also received 2 blue screens after start up something with memory vga card and ativdag....OK, enough B.S. with this stuff. Why did i buy this vga card?!?!? :mad:
Well, now its sold on Ebay and now using a 7950GT temporarily ;./ Changing to 780i Chipset now with 2 8800 GTX....
And now one final question: WTF is the southbridge so hot?!?!?!?! damn...im using watercooling and down there a fire is almost burning...
Anyone has or has had similar problems???
greetings
I think the SB is so hot because it is connected to the NB. The NB sends it's extra heat to the SB via the heat-pipe.
Well you will have a harder time fighting the 780i then the X38 : wish you all the best Kloss...
First up did you run the ram at 2.3 volts set in bios or 2.3 volts readout by eg Everest ? Secondly was the ram extra cooled ?
I have my NB hooked up to my WC loop , NB get's around 45°C , SB is at 48°C at with 400FSB, NB at 1.47 volts and SB 1.5... under full load
Without the WC the NB would go all the way up to 62°C and SB around 65°C... and yes I removed the Asus TIM and replaced it with arctic ceramique...
Secondly don't forget the ATI cards pump out loads of heat on top of the card... I don't have an 3870X2 but the 3850 and 70 cards are pretty hot... not helping ya temps either...
I think the south-bridge is so hot because it's not a metal chip, it has that cheap black plastic top. I have an MCW30 on it (which is why I cut the heat-pipe to it) and it still loads to 37*. I guess it wasn't worth re-doing my loop and voiding the warrenty to get a 1* drop in the SB :rofl:
Thanks for the Tip. I want to exchange the thermal grease with arctic silver 5, the only one i have here...would help for sure as i read it everywhere.
On the other hand im completely satisfied with the mainboard but i think another good BIOS could fix some problems. The overclocking features are really crazy. I dont even know what most of these voltages names are...but with cpu level up and manual fsb the board runs like hell.
i gave the memory manually a voltage of 2.30V. It is certified to run at 2.3V but i think the Asus overvolts too much....now i'm running 3,3 GHZ again with 4-4-4-15 timings and something of 900mhz memory without any changes to voltage. seems that cpu level up can do the job himself.
anyway i want a sli system now, i have enough of ATI driver problems and blinking screens and that typical ATI stuff. I should have kept my HD3870, i sure miss it and regret the 3870 X2 purchase :(
Hans Kloss is German ? :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Kloss
Well then I should back down the voltage of the DIMM. 2.30v @ bios is like 2.36-2.38V real......
Bios 1003 Maximus Formula:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1626
lol he did a good job then because it isnt being "released", unfortunately I cant test it because I sold my board few days ago.
Added to first post of "Part 2" thread with direct link.
MF1003.zip
Any changelog there ?
Edited: Flashed the bios... didn't post afterwards had to pop the battery... besides the extra TRFC options still no 4:5 boot for me... CPU PLL and Ram voltage still overvolts... FSB undervolts... no temp changes on the qx9650, CPU still idles at 15°C and loads at 25°C....tralalalala ...
Comon Asus there's more work here !!
None as of yet...but this does show the TRFC changes.
http://www.abload.de/thumb/19022008592gs4.jpg
I put a 4cm fan on my SB and it posts at 30, rarely gets over 34. Threw and Antec Cool Spot over my NB and it posts around 39-40 (doesn't go over 44). Didn't re-seat etc, took the lazy way, but seems to be doing the job. Those temps are at 3.6ghz (8x450).
Hi guys,
After looking at my voltages in Everest Ultimate, I have now lowered my DRAM voltage to 1.94 volts as beforehand BIOS was showing me at 1.9v but Everest was showing 2.1 :eek: Everything is still stable but can you see or advise on any other voltage adjusments as I understand the maximus is known for overvolting?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/orbiter/VTs.jpg
TYIA
Orb
Plz QX9650 guys do NOT try the 1003 bios, it's a total waste of time... luckily I was able to reflash to 0907 via EZ flash...
Issues :
1) Couldn't touch the multi ( up nor down ) resulted in a no post... had to pop battery to bring it back to life, Cmos reset didn't work
2) 400FSB doesn't post with my Qx9650, 450 does but not being able to get it stable with even higher voltages then my 0907 settings...
3) Vcore didn't change for me once above 1.4volts( bios setting)-- stayed put here at 1.375 (only tried up to 1.45 in bios)...
4) Messed with the TRFC options too but that didn't help in letting her post and be stable in windows...
PLZ REMOVE IT ASAP !!
Will I get a better OC at a lower voltage if I use load-line calibration? Some say it's good and some say it's bad. Right now I have it on, could I get a lower true voltage at load if I turn it off?
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is anybody getting over 3.9 Ghz stable yet? warboy?
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My stuff is dead. I got 3.9Ghz stable for abit remember?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
I can run 3.915GHz 24/7 Folding Stable if I want. 9x435.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
yeah warboy, i remember... actually, it was your settings that helped me achieve the same. and kup, i remember you getting high too. it doesn't seem that anybody has achieved 4.0 and stable on just water cooling yet. i'm still running the 802 bios, the 9xx didn't work for crap on my system. i couldn't get any high clocks stable. 3.9 is great, but that 4.x mark just looks so sexy :)
Well when I get the LS hooked up, I'll be trying for 4.2GHz+ 24/7 stable, so I'll keep you guys up to date on whether the board can actually do it or not...
My only issues are the recent BIOS reflash gone bad so I guess I'm the only one on the 4 forums I read, cause nobody sames to experienced it yet. Well good luck to them if they havent though.Quote:
Originally Posted by pphx459
Oh well, I guess if I get time to set up an RAM I'll get a new eprom.
LS? liquid system?Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
you'll be using the Q6600?
he means VapoChill LightSpeed not liquid system.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
oh. well that's upsetting. :( well, for me anyway. lol.
Yeah, I'll use my 1.2375v VIS Q6600.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
Bingo! Got a Rev 2 Vapo' LS so it can hold some nice temps! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by safan80
Why so, dude?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
i was hoping for those clocks with just regular water cooling. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Hello,
I have had problems with the P5E and Maximus Formula that I couldn't solve so far. One thing right off, not meaning to show off but it shall answer some questions about wether I might have missed due to being an unexperienced noob...
I was building my own PCs for 17 years now and I have had an education in electronics development.
I bought my P5E board back in november, and had it replaced on warranty two weeks ago, I've got the Maximus Formula now.
What has me very confused is which NB voltage would be right for which NB/FSB clock. The reason is, the software issues I have make me believe that thise values that I would expect to be right, tell me something very different.
The issues:
Some games of the Need for Speed (especially Underground 2) series appear to crash frequently when raising the NB *OR* FSB Term. voltage above 1.32V . Whereas actually 1.45V would be more likely to be required for FSB 437 or 492 (E6600 B2 running at 8x437. 9/8*437=492 MHz)
What are your experiences on NB voltages, FSB term voltages and stability, and what are the most common effects of too much or too little voltage on this board?
What are the voltages that Intel specifies for the X38 northbridge at default clocks of 266 and 333? The AUTO setting in the BIOS gives the NB 1.35V at stock cklocks and jumps to 1.61 when overclocking beyond 333, which seems extreme to me.
Second Issue:
While running stable on Windows 2003 and XP, SecondLife running on any flavor of Vista, Vista 64 or Server 2008 freezes the whole OS sometime between 5 minutes and 6 1/2 hours after starting the secondlife viewer.
Symptoms are:
- System comes to an almost complete stop. Graphics output freezes, or the screen goes black. Keyboard input is completely dead.
- The system seems to be under full load yet not CRASHED for about 10-15 seconds. HD activity continues for a few seconds, network activity as well. Then the system comes to a complete halt. All I can do then is push the reset button. The event log never shows any entries except for "system did not shut down properly".
What I have tried so far to resolve the issue:
- change BIOS settings, including CPU voltage, NB volt, FSB term., RAM voltage...
- tried all available drivers for my 8800GTS-320 card.
- reversed all overclocks in the system to default.
- several fresh installs of Vista including "naked" setups with only the needed drivers, and all hotfixes. Also SP1.
- removed two RAM modules
- moved cards around to enforce a different IRQ assignment
Stability tests I ran:
-Orthos 2004, 6h stable in Vista and Windows 2003/XP
-Memtest 86
-OpenGL 2.0 test (fuzzy donut), 9 hours stable.
-ATiTool DirectX artefact scan, 9h without errors.
System Specs:
ASUS Maximus Formula 1.03G, E6600@437x8, 4x1 GB Corsair DDR2-800 CL5, Sparkle 8800GTS 320 MB, Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty, bottom PCI slot. Intel Pro/1000PT Network card, top PCIe slot (empty audio slot). Thermaltake Toughpower 750W PSU and a Enermax Liberty 400W (was swapped out for the Thermaltake, but the Enermax WAS sufficient!).
I guess the optical drives and HDs don't matter in this issue.
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8x
FSB Frequency: 437
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400,333
PCI-E Frequency: 100,115
DRAM Frequency: 874
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# ActivateTime: 15
Other Memory Timings: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Transaction Booster: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1,4625
CPU PLL Voltage: 1,50
North Bridge Voltage: various, 1.25-1.60
DRAM Voltage: 2,10
FSB Termination Voltage: various, 1.25-1.5V
South Bridge Voltage: 1,05
Loadline Calibration: Enabled
CPU GTL Reference: 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference: 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage: 1,50
NB LED Selection: NB Volt
SB LED Selection: SB Volt
CPU LED Selection: CPU Volt
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
C1E Suppport: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
I could really use advice on this issue. The system has fooled me into believing I had the issue solved twice. The Secondlife problem has been gone twice for a week onto to reappear out of the blue. It has taken me 6 weeks by now, and the problem was the same on both P5E and Maximus boards.
:mad: :shrug: I'm clueless.
For me, NB of 1.5 was nice for 475 ~ 505FSB with an FSBT of 1.47~1.50v , a PLL of 1.632v, SB @ 1.10v, SB 1.5 as 1.58v, and CPU/NB GTL Refs of 63/67 respectively for my E6750. (all voltages as reported and displayed in CMOS Power Management)
My temps were usually @ 41c for NB , 32c SB, and 41c on CPU when average of 500x8 @ 4GHz, They came down a notch if I lessened it to 500x7 as 3.50GHz so I can use 1.47v NB, 1.47v FSBT, 63x/63x GTL Ref, and 1.612 PLL, with temps slightly less under load but only 1~2c less at idle. NB alwqays remained under 51c during OCCT or Orthos and Prime95. Never say SB higher then 38c at 1.10v
Quad cores and RAM dividers required much more volts and created more heat neede. But for the newer 1333FSB duals, this board is very easy on them.
Thanx Nuckin Futs
Go figure, CMOS gets kicked in the brain by a bad flash, and then weeks later it get's zapped again and now it works, I don't know, go figure. Lol!
Just moments ago (im using it now), I wanted to read my CMOS options for CPU Strap To NB for DRAM spd options and guess what, I noticed that after returning form previous messed up 907, NB and FSBT appeared too low to post but RAM actually fine for stock, so as soon as I manually fixed the volts as before, it posted for the 1st time in 3 weeks on BIOS v0602. And good thing I left it here, as this was the only BIOS version that actually allowed me to fix the 400 strap.
So for future reference, if this looks like it is happening to you, simply adjust the NB, FSBT, and maybe RAM (as mentioned by some), before setting anything else. If it POST again, great, continue your profile settings.
I might also note that I did leave it completely out of case with no BAT in and as often as I counld on the hour clear the PWR by tapping PWR button on mobo. This helped once before on my trusty P4C800-E and an older P3V-4X. It seams to discharge any leftover charges in the caps previously stored so you get a true fresh CMOS clearing to start over.
Nuckin futs:
Then I seriously wonder what makes NFS:U2 crash. And what's even more paradox, why don't I get any negative effects on system stability with NB 1.30/FSBt 1.30? One should expect instabilities, like bluescreens and calculation errors in Orthos. Tho I never get to see any in Vista nor Win2003/XP.
Not to talk about those stupid SecondLife issues in Vista (see Post #5591). I really need SL, and I don't see why this happens. Especially since I know a whole bunch of people running SL and Vista on a P5E, Maximus or P5B series boards.
Storm your brains peeps, maybe someone has a seemingly dumb idea that could work. ;)
Nuckin: I have had that P5C800-E myself. I adore that board...
What are your temps while loaded? cpu, nb, sb, etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
I believe it is the low volts that are crashing your system. Now I can't understand why mine would boot as (F2, load defauls) but not when set as such in CMOS. I did notice when as such low NB, FSTB in AUTO it crashed under stressfull apps or even demanding networked medial of Divx playback (quickly scanning through video, normal play was a snap).Quote:
Originally Posted by Amurtigress
But what's even more strange, is that this same exact set up had always loaded as default since new and up to last BIOS flash as I had always made sure that it was set to default and restarted and back to CMOS for my EZ-Flash. I will try it for test later to see if it does now.
tommithy:
No unusual heat, around 45C for the NB. CPU up to 62C. I am using a Chieftec Mesh case and a Zalman CNPS 9700 A. So there is a good air circulation with a constant airstream from the Zalman through the 120mm fan at the back of the case.
FN: Yes, it seems plausable for the Vista/SL issue. Only why does NFSU2 get stable at 1.30NB/1.30FSBt...
I have to clarify something here: THis is not about NFSU2, which is certainly an OLD game. I just think this smells like an issue that can cause other problems behind the scenes. However, SL is important to me.
Lil typo: I meant P4C800-E :p:
Hey guys.
I haven't flashed my BIOS since I got the board, which was back in November. I couldn't get my X3220/Q6600 stable at any higher speeds than 3.78Ghz back then, and I remember I blamed the BIOS divider settings mostly for that (even tho I'm happy with the speed I acheived).
So my question is, are there anyone who has experienced better OC potential with this board with the newer revision BIOSes that have been released since the board came out?
All info appreciated!
depends on when you got your board...Quote:
Originally Posted by CrackaBoi
to answer your question... most likely everybody!
Like I said above, I was dealing with this back in November. I bought the board right away when it came out in Oct.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSamurai
But thanks for the answer. So the divider settings are really improved? Any other significant improvements?
Thanks!
Well I can say that divider issues are not resolved, or very little if any at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrackaBoi
I personally have seen no major improvment since bios 602, basically only cpu support.
KUP has flashed back to 505 and has claimed better oc'ing and major stabilitiy improvement from 907, wich he was having issues with.
IMO unless you have a major issue and are hoping a bios update will fix, leave well enough alone
hmm i still have issues with strap 400 on FSB higher than 460 on 4 sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
What kinda problems with 4 sticks over 460MHz FSB?
And yes, as GrnFinger pointed out, I'm back on Bios 0505 because all my notes suggested it was the best bios thus far, and you know what, it is. Dividers work, FSB overclocks as far as newer bios if not further. I've had ONE, yes ONE, reboot since downgrading and I'm sure it was my fault for closing the window and letting the PC get too hot. This is compared to Bios 0907 with several reboots a day but can Prime/OCCT for 24 hours without crashing... :S
Oh, and this is all with lower voltage on CPU and Mobo than on Bios 0907...
Performance seems better too, Folding is as fast @ 3.6GHz on 0505 as it was @ 3.8GHz on 0907 for me! :D
Can I downgrade to 505 from 907 within the bios upgrade system the same way I'd upgrade or is there some trick to it?
There's a trick...
Either use the Asus Update in the first post of this thread, or...
Rename Bios 0505 to "FORMULA.ROM" (without the quotes) and load it onto a USB stick. Now flash your bios with any bios (after 0901 you'll need to do this with a 090x series bios) via the bios and turn it off as it's flashing. It'll corrupt it and fail to boot.
Plug the USB Stick containing the renamed 0505 in and power on, it'll load a Bios Flash util and reflash to 0505 for you.
This is how I did mine, saves installing crappy Asus flashers and was faster.
BIOS downgrading notes; I had no difference naming older BIOS ROM of any below of what was current (v9x or not). It always reported "BIOS is older" and could not downgrade via EZ-Flash, only through ASUS Live Update. Then it didn't matter what vesion or name, as long as you knew it was the right one you wanted and check box under "options" was selected for "old BIOS"
The "crash/corrupt" method will work, but if you have a stable install of Windows, it is just as safe and if not, well, you get the crash free recovery option after.
If using crash free BIOS recovery, it doesn't only have to be on USB, it can be the origional from ASUS CD (you flash upto what you want in EZ-Flash after) or on any CD/DVD, USB card or HDD, just so long as the ROM file is in main directory or if in folder it is in folders with all caps and no spaces (underscore is OK. It can be several folders in as long as they same as above. In this case, it (the ROM file) does need to be named as FORUMLA.ROM. It doesn't matter what version cause it will only use the 1st one it finds so try to have only one to search, or you might flash the wrong one.
As for Live update flash back, I do know for sure v6.10.22 is fully XP and S2k3 x64 compatable. I cannot speak for VISTA yet.
Nope, FORMULA.ROM. I used "formula" because that is what my driver disc uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
yse, that's, sorry, my miswording.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Hi,
those of us who used a P965 board before know about the following equation:
NB clock = (max CPU multi / current CPU multi)*FSB.
Does this also apply to our X38? I am a tad confused currently, since I am running my E6600 at 437x8. this would mean the NB actually runs at close to 500 MHz and would require roughly 1.55V.
In case that FSB clock= NB core clock, I would need less voltage. Around 1.46-1.48 V...
So, any information on wether the old P965 eqation applies to the X38?
Any tools available that display the correct NB clock?
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just wondering if i should stay with bios 0907 or go up to 1003, i would update but that one guy had all those issues with it. 0907 worked fine on my last board thanks
also is it strange to have parts not perfectly aligned on the board, for instance i got my new one in a few days ago and the two "squares" near the ram slots, i think they are the voltage regulators, but maybe not im a noob lol, anyway the two squares are kind of off center, is this just bad manufacturing and i should just ignore it if the board runs well, or should i complain yet again
thanks
Depends on the CPU. I had plenty issues with v0907 myself with E6750. Poor and or lack of suspend mode function for Stand By and or Hibernate (S3/S4), plus random drop of USB mouse detection and failure of some USB 2.0 devices to be detected if resume from S4 actually worked.
Furthermore, I experienced nothing but weirdness since v0907 and attempting to flash went fine, but BIOS blocks were corupted ever since even when trying to move to any other BIOS version from that time on.
Now maybe my case is isolated since nobody else responded with anything to comment on, so I just RMA'd this week.
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Plz guys do NOT try the 1003 bios, it's a total waste of time... luckily I was able to reflash to 0907 via EZ flash...
Issues :
1)Couldn't touch the multi ( up nor down ) resulted in a no post... had to pop battery to bring it back to life, Cmos reset didn't work
2)400FSB doesn't post with my Qx9650, 450 does but not being able to get it stable with even higher voltages then my 0907 settings...
3) Vcore didn't change for me once above 1.4volts( bios setting)-- stayed put here at 1.375 (only tried up to 1.45 in bios)...
4) Messed with the TRFC options too but that didn't help in letting her post and be stable in windows...
PLZ REMOVE IT ASAP !!
I cant confirm this. With my E8400 the Bios runs like a charm...
And the TRFc settings are godlike @55 i can run PerfLev 5 @600 Mhz 5-5-5-5-15 with 4x1GB...stable
Greetz