ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

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10-07-2008, 10:14 PM
CryptiK

Yes it really needs some increased efficiency and bandwidth with lower latency at a given PL, FSB and ram speed.

Also, when are they going to release the next BIOS? The P5Q-Deluxe (and other P5Q series boards) has had 1402, 1403 and now 1406 but they seem to have just forgotten about the Maximus II Formula. Very poor effort by Asus indeed.

EDIT - sure there aren't any glaring issues they need to address, other than increasing memory compatibility with more ram types, but it would certainly be nice to see further optimization and increased efficiency with new BIOS revisions.
10-07-2008, 11:48 PM
Harsha

Hi Cryptik,
Sorry for the long delay....got the new MOBO but still didn't post,replaced the PSU for an Enermax Infiniti 720 (thought there might be a dead rail not supplying enough Amps to the system) still no luck....assuming its the CPU so will replace that this week and see. Man this is annoying and expensive...will finally get back to you once this thing actually posts.

Any suggestions on a Quad that will be stable @4GHz with the RAM I have (assuming that's not blown... :bsod: :brick: )
10-08-2008, 01:35 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harsha

Hi Cryptik,
Sorry for the long delay....got the new MOBO but still didn't post,replaced the PSU for an Enermax Infiniti 720 (thought there might be a dead rail not supplying enough Amps to the system) still no luck....assuming its the CPU so will replace that this week and see. Man this is annoying and expensive...will finally get back to you once this thing actually posts.

Any suggestions on a Quad that will be stable @4GHz with the RAM I have (assuming that's not blown... :bsod: :brick: )

No problem that's really not good mate. Have you tried using just one stick of ram to see if it will post or trying to use any other ram in it? Perhaps it's a memory incompatibility issue? Can you test the CPU in another board?
10-08-2008, 01:57 AM
Harsha

Hi Cryptik,
I tried another GPU but that doesn't seem to be the problem and 1 stick at a time....still no post. if its the CPU as it seems to be now I'll just bite the bullet and get a Q9550 tomorrow for around $350 USD. Worst case scenario is I have my P5K deluxe and my Antec 550 as the starting point for a HTPC so it
wont go to waste.
If I remember correctly the 8GB of Muskin DDR2-800 I have was clocked @ 475 on the P5K deluxe with the Q6600, if I can achieve the 475 clock on RAM with the Maximus II Formula and have it stable I'll be more than happy. :party:
10-08-2008, 03:05 AM
CryptiK

If the CPU works on your P5K, it should work on your Maximus II Formula. It's not the PSU, and not the video card.....is there any other ram you have that you can try? Perhaps the board is not compatible with that mushkin?

The 9550 would be a very nice cpu, try and find an E0 stepping if you can, it should clock a little better and require less voltage for a given speed compared to a C1.
10-08-2008, 04:37 AM
Harsha

Sorry, Thought I mentioned before in my first post. After trying to wake up from sleep on the P5K Deluxe, I got power going through to the board,HDD's and KB and mouse(LED's) but no screen. After hard reboot no post beep or screen. Thats why i thought it might be either the MB or PSU.
10-08-2008, 05:17 AM
CryptiK

Ah that's right I got it mixed up with another person's issue. It does appear that you have eliminated everything else. You would expect ram beep code if the ram was faulty. Either way, a 9550 should do you well, and new ram is cheap now comparatively anyhow.
10-08-2008, 04:34 PM
radaja

@Cryptik or @dee i just got my cell shock today and im having a hell of a time running them anything but ddr-800 5-5-5-15 any help would be appreciated, thanks
10-08-2008, 05:52 PM
CryptiK

Post your ram related settings in a template so we can have a look at them. I can direct you once I know what you have set :up:
10-08-2008, 05:57 PM
SiGfever

Hey guys, here is where I am right now and have reached a stumbling block on moving forward. Any suggestions? I fail Prime95 "Blend" after several minutes beyond these settings. This is stable.

PHP Code:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual OC From CPU Level Up: Auto Ratio CMOS Setting: 8 FSB Frequency: 460 CPU Clock Skew: Normal NB Clock Skew: Normal FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333 DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1105MHz DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps DRAM Timing Control: Manual 1st Information: CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks Write Recovery Time: Auto Read to Precharge Time: Auto 2nd Information: Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto Write to Read Delay (S): Auto Write to Read Delay (D): Auto Read to Read Delay (S): Auto Read to Read Delay (D): Auto Write to Write Delay (S): Auto Write to Write Delay (D): Auto 3rd Information: Write to PRE Delay: Auto Read to PRE Delay: Auto PRE to PRE Delay: Auto All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto All PRE to REF Delay: Auto DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled DRAM Read Training: Auto MEM. OC Charger: Auto Ai Clock Twister: Stronger Ai Transaction Booster: Manual Common Performance Level: 8 Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled PCIE Frequency: 101 CPU Voltage: 1.4250 CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50 FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850 DRAM Voltage: 2.14450 North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150 South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50 South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10 CPU GTL Reference (0): +20mv CPU GTL Reference (1):-15mv CPU GTL Reference (2): +20mv CPU GTL Reference (3): -15mv NB GTL Reference: Auto DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto CPU Configuration: Ratio CMOS Setting: 8 C1E Support: Disabled Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled CPU TM Function: Disabled Execute Disable Bit: Disabled Load-Line Calibration: Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
10-08-2008, 06:19 PM
CryptiK

Try:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950MHz (lowest choice)

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850
DRAM Voltage: 2.14450
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (1):-15mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): -15mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

It may be your CPU limiting you through, that is a fairly high vcore you have for 3.7GHz already, if going any lower on the vcore makes you unstable at 3.7GHz, I'd say you are actually CPU limited.
10-08-2008, 06:25 PM
SiGfever

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

It may be your CPU limiting you through, that is a fairly high vcore you have for 3.7GHz already, if going any lower on the vcore makes you unstable at 3.7GHz, I'd say you are actually CPU limited.

Yeah, that is why I named the cpu "Fido", it is a real dog. :D

I will try the settings tomorrow and let you know, thanks.
John
10-08-2008, 09:21 PM
radaja

@cryptik heres my settings. mem timings are all auto. i did an os switch from vista64 to 32-xp,check out my +12v now they never were that high before. whats the best volts for this speed(ram).thankyouhttp://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...cs/newone2.jpg
10-08-2008, 09:51 PM
gotsoul

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10-08-2008, 09:59 PM
BuGjAE

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Try:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950MHz (lowest choice)

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850
DRAM Voltage: 2.14450
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (1):-15mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): -15mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

It may be your CPU limiting you through, that is a fairly high vcore you have for 3.7GHz already, if going any lower on the vcore makes you unstable at 3.7GHz, I'd say you are actually CPU limited.

Thanks for your suggestion CryptiK.That's interesting I'll try to test it.... and for right now I still can't get pass with "Blend" over 35 minutes...

and RADAJA that's great!! I'll try to follow your setting too.
I think may I'm stuck with my RAM (D9GMH 2x2 GB)
10-08-2008, 10:04 PM
GAR

anyone get 500fsb with a Q9450, if so can you post your settings, thanks.
10-09-2008, 02:11 AM
RandomSuffix

Can anyone say whether or not SpeedFan can control fans plugged in to the fan connectors on this board?
10-09-2008, 02:34 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiGfever

Hey guys, here is where I am right now and have reached a stumbling block on moving forward. Any suggestions? I fail Prime95 "Blend" after several minutes beyond these settings. This is stable.

Those GSkills should do 1105MHz easy.
I'll post my GSKill timing for you.
Cryptik is right tho your cpu does seem to be at the end of its leash.
Try running small fft's with the ram dialed back to see if its the chip or not.
10-09-2008, 03:41 AM
DukeDaal

Speaking of G skill, Will the maximus II formula support 8gb of gskill 1066 memory? Thats 2 4 GB (2 x 2GB) kits. 4 dimms

Just running them at 1066?
10-09-2008, 04:14 AM
gotsoul

Hi guys! Just needed some help on how to OC my rig. Can you guys show me some templates of how I should set my bios to OC? I have a bios 0901 version. Will it be better to update it to the latest bios 1307? I was also planning on doing that before I set my bios settings. I am planning to put another set of 4Gb (2Gbx2) RAM (Total of 8GB RAM). Will this be an issue or will it better to OC it on 4GB RAM total? Thanks for your patience guys! :D
10-09-2008, 04:21 AM
bito

What sort of VTT and VNB should these boards need with a Q6600 @ 333 FSB?
Thanks
10-09-2008, 04:28 AM
Nunzi

8 gigs works fine 450 -475 fsb is what im able to hit. you could probable do better with 4gigs
10-09-2008, 04:36 AM
KURTZ

hi folks! i'm interested in this mobo, but i wanna know only few things, what's the max fsb that this mobo allows under air cooling? the strap 266 runs correctly?, someone had tested it with the Cell's PC8000 cl.4?

TIA and bye!
10-09-2008, 04:46 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

@cryptik heres my settings. mem timings are all auto. i did an os switch from vista64 to 32-xp,check out my +12v now they never were that high before. whats the best volts for this speed(ram).thankyou

That does look better, what does bios say your 12v line is at? I think no more than 2.1v for those G.Skills, Grnfinger would probably be the best to answer that, however 2.0v is fine 24/7 for where you're at now, you may even be able to go a little higher. Try setting at least the first set of ram timings manually - try 5-5-5-15-5-55-8-5. Advancing the ram skews to around 250ps can also help get stability at higher speeds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuGjAE

Thanks for your suggestion CryptiK.That's interesting I'll try to test it.... and for right now I still can't get pass with "Blend" over 35 minutes...

and RADAJA that's great!! I'll try to follow your setting too.
I think may I'm stuck with my RAM (D9GMH 2x2 GB)

If your ram is 2 x 2GB, they won't be D9 GMH, they will be 128M x 16 per ram module to give 2GB, micron D9 is 64M x 16 giving 1GB per module.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandomSuffix

Can anyone say whether or not SpeedFan can control fans plugged in to the fan connectors on this board?

No idea, if you need to have some control, try the fan speed control in bios if you haven't already, it is reasonably flexible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

anyone get 500fsb with a Q9450, if so can you post your settings, thanks.

If your CPU will do it, it will take perhaps ~1.40 - 1.45v vNB to get 500 FSB stable. Depends somewhat on how much ram you will be running, more ram needs higher vNB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeDaal

Speaking of G skill, Will the maximus II formula support 8gb of gskill 1066 memory? Thats 2 4 GB (2 x 2GB) kits. 4 dimms

Just running them at 1066?

The P45 series is supposed to support 16GB, so 8GB should be fine, you will need a higher vNB (~1.4v) perhaps more to get it stable. Also a tRFC of 55 or 60 will be required as they are 2GB modules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotsoul

Hi guys! Just needed some help on how to OC my rig. Can you guys show me some templates of how I should set my bios to OC? I have a bios 0901 version. Will it be better to update it to the latest bios 1307? I was also planning on doing that before I set my bios settings. I am planning to put another set of 4Gb (2Gbx2) RAM (Total of 8GB RAM). Will this be an issue or will it better to OC it on 4GB RAM total? Thanks for your patience guys! :D

Try my template I gave you but since you have a 9550, try first 424 FSB, 8.5x MP and use 1.35 vNB, 1.25 vFSB :up: The template I sent you is for an e8400. 4GB ram will be easier to overclock, but to compensate with 8GB, increase the vNB a few notches. I would recommend upgrading to 1307 BIOS, it has been the best one for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bito

What sort of VTT and VNB should these boards need with a Q6600 @ 333 FSB?
Thanks

Start with 1.25v vFSB, 1.35v vNB that should be fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KURTZ

hi folks! i'm interested in this mobo, but i wanna know only few things, what's the max fsb that this mobo allows under air cooling? the strap 266 runs correctly?, someone had tested it with the Cell's PC8000 cl.4?

TIA and bye!

Max totally stable FSB I can hit is 534 FSB, but up to ~555 FSB stable should be doable if you CPU can be stable at that FSB. When I say stable I mean Orthos, Linpack gaming etc stable ie: totally rock stable.

My CellShock 8000 CL4 kits (GKX) and my TeamGroup 8500's (GMH) go very well on this board.
10-09-2008, 04:51 AM
radaja

@cryptik these are the new cellshock that you linked me to that im using

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