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Originally Posted by Olivon

Fire Strike ared OCed scores and they're not so impressive, around a GTX 780 clocked ~1275MHz.

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Newer testing with titan makes it look less impressive somewhat.

http://www.legitreviews.com/galaxy-g...review_2238/10

Titan at stock gets 4800. Shouldn't take too much overclocking to beat 5359.

None the less, pretty impressive that they got this much performance out of a 438mm2 chip.

I think what we all need to see is power consumption figures and if it takes 100% fan to stabilize those clocks. 100% fan on cards, particularly AMD cards as of late is unusable due to noise.

Kind of a guess at this point, but I have a feeling gtx 780 Max OC competes with Max OC 290x. Which is pretty good.

If the gtx 780 ti comes with atleast as much shaders as titan and is clocked at a ghz, I am guessing it will put them into the position they have typically occupied, their flagship beating AMD's flagship by about 12 percent.

It's too bad for Nvidia, if they cannot release a fully enabled, gk110.

What, do you have the card next to your ear?

Noise isnt a problem unless you're sitting idle or watching a movie.


That said, heatsinks for GPU's suck.

what, noise isn't an issued ? those whiney fan noise from GPUs are like someone scratch their fingers on the blackboard, very uncomfortable when it is even slightly audible.
My take is that max playable oced 290x = max playable oced GTX 780, at stock the 290x will be slightly faster cause AMD had a couple of months to adjust final clock to just beat the GTX 780 anyways. That said iam gonna get the 290x for my next upgrade :D

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Originally Posted by STEvil

What, do you have the card next to your ear?

Noise isnt a problem unless you're sitting idle or watching a movie.


That said, heatsinks for GPU's suck.

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100% percent fan noise from just about any blower type fan is awful. It's a high pitched noise that doesn't sound like the somewhat tolerable noise of just a regular case fan or the noise from your air conditioner or heater.

Its distracting and it can be heard from rooms away. So being a few feet away is just a headache waiting to happen.

http://www.firstpost.com/topic/organ...E-48380-6.html

Heres a video for a 7970 at 100% fan speed. They record it from probably a few feet away than probably 6 or 7 feet away. If your saying that wouldn't be an issue unless your watching a movie or just listening to it idle, your dead wrong.

Yes, I know exactly how loud they can be.

Do you have the card next to your ear? Are you forcing the fan to run 100%? Are you bothering to look into why your GPU is running the fan excessively fast if its not supposed to? Have you tried to mitigate the issue at all, or are you just complaining because the card "can be" loud but usually isnt?

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Originally Posted by STEvil

Yes, I know exactly how loud they can be.

Do you have the card next to your ear? Are you forcing the fan to run 100%? Are you bothering to look into why your GPU is running the fan excessively fast if its not supposed to? Have you tried to mitigate the issue at all, or are you just complaining because the card "can be" loud but usually isnt?

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Did you read my original post. I said I was talking about if 100% fan speed was necessary to stabilize that overclock?

"I think what we all need to see is power consumption figures and if it takes 100% fan to stabilize those clocks. 100% fan on cards, particularly AMD cards as of late is unusable due to noise."

If it takes 100% fan speed to stabilize that type of overclock, its basically in practice an usable setting due to the noise. Its practicality of the cards I am talking about because I am wondering what kind of fan speed is necessary for the card to remain stable at these types of clocks.

If you looked at those screen shots that were posted, the person overclocking the cards set the fan speed to 100%, so I am wondering if that fan speed is necessary to reach those clocks.

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

100% percent fan noise from just about any blower type fan is awful. It's a high pitched noise that doesn't sound like the somewhat tolerable noise of just a regular case fan or the noise from your air conditioner or heater.

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The blower in your AC air handler for your house is a blower style fan more than likely :p:

I've heard a lot of noisy video card fans but so far the absolute worst I have ever heard was the stock fan on the X1900XT back in the day. It wasn't just loud, the tone of it was very irritating.

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Originally Posted by Sparky

The blower in your AC air handler for your house is a blower style fan more than likely :p:

I've heard a lot of noisy video card fans but so far the absolute worst I have ever heard was the stock fan on the X1900XT back in the day. It wasn't just loud, the tone of it was very irritating.

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My AC just as the regular fan type fan. And up close, even that is too noisy. Its good to have the AC outside and not have to listen to the noise up close. I wish computer cooling could be like this. Well I guess it can in summer time, with an air duct hose attached to a vent. In winter time too, but I think that's too hardcore at this point.

My first post after long time, was too busy and only had time to lurk often but I'm reading this thread and couple others every day since I'm looking for major system upgrade.

After reading multiple repeated post in this thread about AMD R9 290X like "not impressive", "little to no reason to buy one", "not much OC room", "too hot and noise, bad drivers", "I won't lie, I'm disappointed" etc.

I almost decided TWO GTX 780 are going to be my next upgrade, than came the Nvidia announcement about GTX 780 Ti, looks to me Nvidia is little more impressed about the R9 290X otherwise there would not be any reason for the upgrade.

First time I'm going to trust more Nvidia than NV fan-boys and I'm not sure what I'm going to bye next.

My criteria:
1.) best performing card in 4K (for my next 50 inch TV monitor, provided it's 60Hz)
2.) lower price,
3.) if 1 & 2 is going close to equal I will prefer too support AMD

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

Did you read my original post. I said I was talking about if 100% fan speed was necessary to stabilize that overclock?

"I think what we all need to see is power consumption figures and if it takes 100% fan to stabilize those clocks. 100% fan on cards, particularly AMD cards as of late is unusable due to noise."

If it takes 100% fan speed to stabilize that type of overclock, its basically in practice an usable setting due to the noise. Its practicality of the cards I am talking about because I am wondering what kind of fan speed is necessary for the card to remain stable at these types of clocks.

If you looked at those screen shots that were posted, the person overclocking the cards set the fan speed to 100%, so I am wondering if that fan speed is necessary to reach those clocks.

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So you're just getting mad about possible noise and being a troll, ok.

If you dont want to run 100% fan speed to run retarded overclocks on air then guess what? DONT.

I hear that the cards arent all that noisy compared to 79xx and there will be custom cooling solutions out soon anyway so I dont think noise/heat/power will really be an issue. I just dont get the delay with regard to release, heres hoping it is indeed the 25th

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

Did you read my original post. I said I was talking about if 100% fan speed was necessary to stabilize that overclock?

"I think what we all need to see is power consumption figures and if it takes 100% fan to stabilize those clocks. 100% fan on cards, particularly AMD cards as of late is unusable due to noise."

If it takes 100% fan speed to stabilize that type of overclock, its basically in practice an usable setting due to the noise. Its practicality of the cards I am talking about because I am wondering what kind of fan speed is necessary for the card to remain stable at these types of clocks.

If you looked at those screen shots that were posted, the person overclocking the cards set the fan speed to 100%, so I am wondering if that fan speed is necessary to reach those clocks.

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Whenever I am trying to find the maximum usable overclock on a specific card, I always set the fan speed to 100% regardless of if I think the card needs it. I try to eliminate it as a variable right away so I can focus on the core clock and memory speeds inch by inch. I assume most overclockers would do the same if they had limited time with the card as I usually do.

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Originally Posted by STEvil

So you're just getting mad about possible noise and being a troll, ok.

If you dont want to run 100% fan speed to run retarded overclocks on air then guess what? DONT.

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I dont think hes trolling at all. If you dont spend alot of time with these cards like some of us do, fan speed and noise can be an issue. some video cards need 100% fan speed to run at their maximum overclock and some do not. I had a few graphics cards that didnt seem to matter if you had 70% fan speed or 100%. I found this out because my wife was complaining at me as I was trying to find the maximum overclocks on a pair of GTX 570s I was testing, I was able to lower the fan speed quite a but as I realzed they refused to overclock higher regardless.

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Originally Posted by tajoh111

Did you read my original post. I said I was talking about if 100% fan speed was necessary to stabilize that overclock?

"I think what we all need to see is power consumption figures and if it takes 100% fan to stabilize those clocks. 100% fan on cards, particularly AMD cards as of late is unusable due to noise."

If it takes 100% fan speed to stabilize that type of overclock, its basically in practice an usable setting due to the noise. Its practicality of the cards I am talking about because I am wondering what kind of fan speed is necessary for the card to remain stable at these types of clocks.

If you looked at those screen shots that were posted, the person overclocking the cards set the fan speed to 100%, so I am wondering if that fan speed is necessary to reach those clocks.

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I don't know why it would since he says he could not add volts yet because software won't do it yet

so it would be the first time a no volts oc of a small what 13% (from 1000 to 1130) needed 100% fan that I've seen with amd cards

I would not be complaining too much about an overclock of 130mhz on a refrence card thats not released yet. These things are still in their infancy and I believe there is some more to be had

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Originally Posted by Ace123

Whenever I am trying to find the maximum usable overclock on a specific card, I always set the fan speed to 100% regardless of if I think the card needs it. I try to eliminate it as a variable right away so I can focus on the core clock and memory speeds inch by inch. I assume most overclockers would do the same if they had limited time with the card as I usually do.



I dont think hes trolling at all. If you dont spend alot of time with these cards like some of us do, fan speed and noise can be an issue. some video cards need 100% fan speed to run at their maximum overclock and some do not. I had a few graphics cards that didnt seem to matter if you had 70% fan speed or 100%. I found this out because my wife was complaining at me as I was trying to find the maximum overclocks on a pair of GTX 570s I was testing, I was able to lower the fan speed quite a but as I realzed they refused to overclock higher regardless.

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Going for a high overclock on air but complaining that it (might) require 100% fan speed is definately trolling.

I've run plenty of loud cards and the solution is easy for gaming: Turn off the overclock or Turn up the speakers more or put headphones on. Otherwise buy a card without that style of cooler or fix the cooler, or do something other than complain.

If the reviews say the card is loud at stock settings during idle or mild (movie) use then I will agree that AMD should go fire somebody for it, but complaining about noise for an overclock is just simply looking for a something to complain about (intentional or not), nothing more and nothing less.

Here's my old (still working) 4870x2. Runs pretty quiet now.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...713_142436.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ace123

I would not be complaining too much about an overclock of 130mhz on a refrence card thats not released yet. These things are still in their infancy and I believe there is some more to be had

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i'm not i'm sure once the final drivers or 1 or two more and they get afterburner working with the new cards oc's will get higher

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Originally Posted by STEvil

So you're just getting mad about possible noise and being a troll, ok.

If you dont want to run 100% fan speed to run retarded overclocks on air then guess what? DONT.

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Wow, I didn't expect this type of reaction. I am not saying assuming it is loud or anything. Your totally over reacting as it is a question about the stability and noise of the card at those particular clocks. I am not trolling at all. I am curious(not making assumptions) and not putting down the card, I am just wondering if it takes 100% fan profile to make a 1130mhz clock stable. It is not that high of an overclock for this generation, so I am wondering what the usable limits with an appropriate, less extreme fan profile.

I.e can 1130mhz be stable at 70% fan or 50% fan. Either case would make those clocks far more usable, I am not assuming it takes 100% fan to make those clocks stable. Again its back to my original question, did they need a 100% fan profile to keep that overclock stable. This is xtremesystems, but not everyone benches the crap out of their cards.

At this point, every single person is likely interested in how well this card overclocks and what kind of clocks we can get with a more usable fan profile.

What spurred this curiosity is 1130mhz isn't that much of an overclock over 1 ghz(particularly this generation) which this thing will often run at. Its a fine overclock if it can get to 1130 mhz without a 100% fan profile, but if it takes that much fan speed to get to those clocks, it will just be a generally bad overclocker.

Stevil, every single person on this board is interested in how well this card overclocks, but not everyone is interested in how well this card overclocks with 100% fan profile which is what I believe your being too focused on and why you are getting angry. I, along with everyone else whose primary use of their videocard is to game is likely interested in how much we can overclock in a regular usage scenario. Not just a 3 minute bench where we crank up the fan to obtain max speed and thus don't care about about the noise because we are obtaining a max score in a 3 minute period and doesn't distract our gaming.

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Originally Posted by Ace123

Whenever I am trying to find the maximum usable overclock on a specific card, I always set the fan speed to 100% regardless of if I think the card needs it. I try to eliminate it as a variable right away so I can focus on the core clock and memory speeds inch by inch. I assume most overclockers would do the same if they had limited time with the card as I usually do.



I dont think hes trolling at all. If you dont spend alot of time with these cards like some of us do, fan speed and noise can be an issue. some video cards need 100% fan speed to run at their maximum overclock and some do not. I had a few graphics cards that didnt seem to matter if you had 70% fan speed or 100%. I found this out because my wife was complaining at me as I was trying to find the maximum overclocks on a pair of GTX 570s I was testing, I was able to lower the fan speed quite a but as I realzed they refused to overclock higher regardless.

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Exactly, I am curious does it need 100% fan speed to reach those clocks. Some cards as you have said need an extreme fan profile to stabilize their clocks, some do not. Which one is it for r290x?

If I can run around 1130mhz and run a usable fan profile, this means I can run 1130mhz when I play my games and be okay if I buy this card. If I can only run something like 1050-1070mhz with a relatively quiet fan profile, there's a good chance I might be better off running a Nvidia card at 1200mhz, particularly the gtx 780 ti, if it has the same number of shaders as Titan or greater and overclocks just as well too.

The 290x doesn't seem to overclock to well under Ln2, from the rumors I heard on this board. I am wondering how this translates into Air overclocks. The numbers that have been tossed around is 1100mhz. From the xtrememembers who's knows someone that has benched it with ln2, the 1100mhz leaked bench and this new 1130mhz 100% max fan profile.

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Originally Posted by STEvil

Here's my old (still working) 4870x2. Runs pretty quiet now.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...713_142436.jpg

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have you got any more pics from diff angles on the card and how you rigged it up?

Uhm, most stock intel or AMD cpu coolers are able to run at 3-6k rpms.Nobody in their right mind would just set this coolers on MAX and whine about the noise.
This whole "issue" is not an issue.People doing MAX overclocks are either using water or are just doing benching, where noise is not a problem.
Everyone else is buying cards with better (and not blower type) than reference cooling ,and also if someone is looking for a OC in day to day situatuns like gaming, theyre OCing up to a noise threshold they desire.
In any case, MAX overclock is pretty much never usable because of the inefficiency, power and loudness.I CAN go 950 on my HD6950, however i have to go MAX fan and the card uses insane power amounts, so i run it at 900 with a quiet fan ,difference of few percent isnt worth the trouble.
Whats even more interesting, is the fact that we dont really know how loud reference of this even is!

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

I almost decided TWO GTX 780 are going to be my next upgrade, than came the Nvidia announcement about GTX 780 Ti, looks to me Nvidia is little more impressed about the R9 290X otherwise there would not be any reason for the upgrade.

My criteria:
1.) best performing card in 4K (for my next 50 inch TV monitor, provided it's 60Hz)
2.) lower price,
3.) if 1 & 2 is going close to equal I will prefer too support AMD

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After doing a quick glance at your post history, it's safe to say you had no intention of going with the nVidia cards. The above post was just at attempt to persuade potential buyers to go with the company you clearly have inappropriate feelings for.

Amazing that now with 3 nvidia threads on the main page, opening this thread to try to find new information all you still find is nvidiots and their nauseating propaganda. Beware friends if you're not a nvidiot your post history will be reviewed and exposed!

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Originally Posted by kuroikenshi

have you got any more pics from diff angles on the card and how you rigged it up?

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I Imagen it goes something like this; Chop an old cooler in half, dremel out a whole and add lots of duct tape, and Voila!

A Dutch site review site put up some benchmark numbers:
http://us.hardware.info/productinfo/...ab:testresults

I don't know if these number are already known? They haven't published the review yet, so it looks like a mistake to put it online already?

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Originally Posted by Andrew LB

After doing a quick glance at your post history, it's safe to say you had no intention of going with the nVidia cards. The above post was just at attempt to persuade potential buyers to go with the company you clearly have inappropriate feelings for.

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Really strange reply specially after I said if everything is near to equal I would rather like to support AMD. Don't think there was any need to check my post history after that.

Also can you please explain what feeling I have about any company, I sure do not wish any company to go bankrupt, unlike you who just posted today "AMD is far more likely to go bankrupt than ....."

How dare you accusing me of lying, I definitely thought not having any other option than buying 2 EVGA GTX 780 Classified after reading all the doom and gloom about the R9 290X in this thread.

I sure do need very good video cards since I want to buy 4K TV/monitor and was thinking 2000 USD for 2 Titans was lil too much to spent.

Anyway as I already said before, now there might be another option maybe R9 290X is not such a waste to buy after all, Nvidia must know better why there is a need to come with new SKU to compete.

Radeon R9 290X Pictured, Tested, Beats Titan

Only Aliens vs. Predators 3, and Battlefield 3 tested by other site than TPU. See the pictures and graphs there also good read about the specs some rumored some true.

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