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Ive benched on 1.48vNB it doesn't exceed 47*C. Stock cooling on these boards is pretty good.
Am i right, does -E and Deluxe have same NB cooling ? Atleast it looks like perfectly same :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
475 FSB, 333 strap, 5:6, 8GB RAM at DDR2-1140, tRD 8 / vMCH 1.40, vDimm 2.0v
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/905...0180537wv3.png
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/10/...0172842gq1.png
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/245...0174119kg3.png
448 FSB, 266 strap, 4:5, 8GB RAM at DDR2-1120, tRD 7 / vMCH 1.44, vDimm 2.0v
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/831...0193124bs0.png
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/206...0191408em0.png
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/2...0192018pn1.png
from past experience with this board, in order for me to set tRD 7 when system overcloked above 400fsb, this used to be possible only to use 400 strap (e.g. 400fsb / DDR1066, 450fsb / DDR1200).
also, my gskill 8GB kits (2 kits of 2x2GB) have never overclocked well on this board, the ram kits are not a very good overclocking ram by themself, however, the ram kits can now be overclocked to DDR2-1140 (and not on a low fsb), this used to be max stable at around DDR2-1128 for 8GB.
[QUOTE=CryptiK;3513244]Not too bad. Have you tried settings CPU GTL Refs to 0.67x or higher? There's a possibility that you could go a little higher or lower your cvore at the current speed with some GTL tweaking.
I'm just happy to be stable; the system is far more powerful than my needs anyway. Fast, quiet and able to game with insane FPS when needed. I enjoyed the learning process but I'd be quite happy never to sit doing prime95 runs again :rofl: Can see this system lasting a few years for me.
From pics it looks to be the same, except the P5Q-E has no heatpipe from NB to SB, and I've read that it has no backplates on the Mosfet sinks as it has 8 phase PWM and no fets on the backside of the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by carepolice
That's really nice to see that FSB with a quad and 8GB of ram at that speed stable. What is Ai Clock Twister set to and are you running static read control and dram read training enabled? They gave me a nice boost in performance, as did running clock twister on stronger. Not sure if you could manage that with a quad + 8GB at those speeds though.Quote:
Originally Posted by pangingIII
Good to see a wholly satisfied person, your setup is nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by mac_69
opp sorry i haven't answered any of the questions...Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
static read control - enabled (in some of the previous bios versions i set this option on auto. but as far as i remember i never disabled this option completely)
dram read training - enabled
Ai clock twister - for my hardwares even before i use this ram kits, this setting is always set on moderated. however, i believe depending on hardwares quite a bit, i can't set Stronger when using this 8GB ram and before, and maybe include the voltage setting that also have effect on the setting. i also used to find some cool booting problems with Strong mode
the CPU batch that i got is a very hot CPU on full load, it's the very first retail q9300's that were available in retail store before q9x50, it was some time back in around Mar-April.
my max daily use for this particular CPU have been 467 at its default multi 7.5 and DDR1120, this is for me to keep a low voltage use in system, include RAM,
but 480FSB still can be stable on this p5q-d board. i might rebuild the cooling system if i'm not too lazy and start to use 475FSB for daily setting.
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1...4x1gb48lm9.png
Nice work pangingIII, 480 FSB / DDR2-1152MHz PL8 is very nice :up: What's the max load temp at those settings? What vNB did this take to stabilize?
I decided to re-do the TIM (thermal interface material) under the NB & SB heatsinks of my board. It was very easy to remove and replace; after undoing the 2 bolts on the rearmost mosfet heatsink and popping out the pushpins from the NB & SB sinks, I simply gently lifted the SB heatsink, the heatsink seperated from the SB chip and the whole heatpipe assembly subsequently lifted off easily. The stock TIM is a sticky gum substance, and is quite thick, and most likely would not have optimal thermal transfer properties. After removal, I initially cleaned the stock TIM off the NB, SB and associated heatsinks with my fingernail (it just peels off easily), and finished the cleaning process with isopropyl alcohol. I re-did the TIM using arctic ceramique. I also had to slightly twist the SB heatsink so it was perfectly flat on the SB when mounted, as the bottom side of it was inititally sitting slightly higher than the rest.
Pics:
NB chip as it looked after I removed the heatpipe assembly
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...san/NBChip.jpg
SB as it looked when I had removed the stock TIM with my finger nail
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...emicleaned.jpg
NB Heatsink as it looked after I removed the heatpipe assembly 1
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...k-unleaned.jpg
NB Heatsink as it looked after I removed the heatpipe assembly 2 - you can really see how thick and sticky the stock TIM looks
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...-unleaned2.jpg
NB chip cleaned
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...NB-cleaned.jpg
SB chip cleaned
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...SB-cleaned.jpg
NB heatsink cleaned
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...nk-cleaned.jpg
SB heatsink cleaned
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...emicleaned.jpg
Mosfet heatsink & thermal pad - notice the excellent contact between all mosfets and the heatsink. This is due to the use of the backing plate under the board, which prevents the board from bowing. My M2F does not have a backing plate, and the centre mosfets don't have as good a contact as those on the ends.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...thermalpad.jpg
Can anyone give me advice for CPU and NB GTL settings?
I'm using 1.6v VTT on my Q6600 @4Ghz.
Thanks.
Cryptik, thanks for photos and responses! :up:
Q6600's seem to like ~0.65x, but GTL Ref settings are trial and error and must be worked out by each person Try between 0.60x and 0.70x (0.70x is almost the absolute max and gives you a Vref of ~1.12v due to your Vtt of 1.6v) for both GTL Refs. Set a clock that you know is unstable, run Orthos small FFT and note the fail time. Then adjust the CPU GTL Refs and see if you can increase the fail time. The point at which it takes the longest to fail, is teh sweet spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gir92
NB GTL Ref seems fine at auto up to 550 - 560 FSB for me, but for your board it may be different as each board's MCH has slightly different behaviour, as CPU's do. Drop the NB to a level that makes the chipset produce errors (I like to use HCI Memtest in windows for this but before you do you must be certain your ram is stable or it will produce errors too) and tweak the NB GTL Ref. Again, the setting the decreases the errors generated or decreases the time before the first error is generated is the sweet spot.
No problem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by lexus232
Thanks Cryptic. Also, what's the max NB volts you recommend? I'm using 1.4v right now. North bridge is watercooled as well, so temps aren't an issue.
For 24/7 use I'd have no problem running 1.4v on air keeping max temps under 50*C, even on water I'd say around 1.45v is around max for 24/7, 1.5v would worry me a little. Remember the P45 chipset is 65nm, and 1.5v is pretty much max for 65nm cpu's 24/7, and intel rate the P45 at ~1.2v absolute max, so even at 1.4v it's already over that by a bit- this is why it's hard to advise anyone on a safe voltage as most of us are already over the rated absolute max. Just depends on how hard you want to push it really.
what NB volts u are using with 4005mhz 1.336v? I now using 1.20 at 4005mhz 1.256v.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Lately I've been getting bluescreens caused by the AHCI-driver, iaStor.sys, and I can't figure out why I'm getting them.
It usually happens while I play Warcraft 3, I've never had it happen while just using Firefox etc. I don't know if it has something to do with the latest AHCI-drivers (8.6.0.1007) or if it's caused by something else, like a failing harddrive.
Although it seems like I'm getting them pretty random, sometimes I can play for hours, and sometimes I get them just within like an hour or so of playing.
I usually have uTorrent, Firefox, mIRC, Live Messenger and Nod32 running in the background.
I'm running the system in my sig at stock settings, but with set voltages because of the overvolting on this board.
Anything I should think of when using SATA ports? I have 2 SATA HD and one IDE DVD burner. I don't use RAID. I just plugged SATA drives into 2 top slots. Now I'm experiencing some really strange freezes. They are really random, last exact 5 minutes and I mean EXACT. I can move the mouse but not much else. Sometimes I can minimize current window. Afterwards there is nothing strange in Event Viewer, but under Windows-Diskcheck-performance (or something similar can't remember now am at work) I can see that some service have been using a lot of HD and thus lowered performance. I've checked most of my freezes and it can be anything that causes disk trashing. From Firefox, Warcraft, Explorer to some ntfskrnl or something.
I've tried a lot of stuff... PC is rock stable no matter the stresstest. Prime, Orthos, Pi, Memtest. It can run them all for at least 24 hours. But I still get these weird freezes. After 5 minutes everything is just fine and dandy...
Any ideas?
same problem with my seagate 640 gb, made the problem worse when switched to ahci native sata mode
Did you install some IDE controller driver? I remember back when I had my P5B Deluxe, the system would go crazy if I had the IDE driver from the CD installed. Jmicron something IIRC.
I run PL8, static read control and dram read training enabled, and Ai Clock twister = stronger, and it takes ~1.30v for stability using my Max 2 Formula. I think my deluxe doesn't need quite that much due to the fact it appears to have slightly looser chipset timings clock for clock at the same settings compared to the M2F, but I have just been benching on it recently not using it 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by lexus232
yeah i think it was installed when i made the switch, the hdd would just freeze multiple times each day, it still freezes but rarelyQuote:
Originally Posted by RAdoxx
Oh so I'm not alone... Do you use Vista to? My drive is Seagate as well... It is driving me crazy. I disabled SMART in BIOS closed unused SATA ports and set SATA to Compatible it is "acting" as IDE. Any harm in disableing SMART? Also is there some kind of seagate health check software?
I too get lockups randomly after passing all stress tests. I just readjusted my overclock (bumped vcore) and no issues since (only been a week or so)
What errors does it give to make you think it is AHCI?
-=Mark=-
yeah i use vista ultimate 64, i installed vista in emulated ide mode but switched to ahci with this procedure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Melhisedek
1. Exit all Windows-based programs.
2. Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then press ENTER.
3. If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
4. Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Msahci
5. In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
6. In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
7. On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
go to bios, change to sata ahci mode and restart
im not sure is it better to leave smart disabled but there r seatools on seagate site for download
it doesnt give any errors, it just freezes the entire desktop, u can move the mouse but u cant click on anything, and the browser is kinda whitish, like its been hit with a glass of milkQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkJohnson
Is AHCI better than IDE mode? should I be using that instead?
im not sure, i never noticed any difference
So you use AHCI now and it still freezes? You also installed drivers from CD? Can try to uninstall drivers and see if it will help any :( This is driving me crazy :( I have exact same problem as you, with moving mouse and white Firefox screen (if it is FF that is running)
yeah its the same problem, it seems to be seagate drives themselves that r causing problems, some ppl managed to take care of the problem by upgrading to new firmware, SD35 or something, u cant just obtain new firmware via seagate site, u need to talk to the support to get oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Melhisedek
About the "HDD freezes" guys, FYI i had very similar problem, solved it with replacing the stock SATA cables, that Asus provides with this board.
Try doing so if you havent done it already.
I had the same problems with the latest Intel Matrix Drivers. I would get a BSOD while gaming or just while surfing the net. I got the iastor.sys error. I never had that problem with the previous matrix drivers. I didn't change any hardware, it all started with the newest driver. I reformatted my HD and went back to the previous driver for the intel matrix ahci and haven't had a BSOD since. I think its the newest drivers their forked....
Will do and report back :) Hope it could be so simpleQuote:
Originally Posted by mozis
Nope wasn't the cables :( Gonna try and see if firmware update can help any :( Wish me luck
That's what I suspected. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by enigma96
I trying to get stable with my e8400 on 4200mhz (467x9.0) 1.352vcore, 1.26vNB, 1.20vFSB. Chip "almost" stable on this vcore, but i dont want to rise vcore higher . What you people can advise to change in bios for better stability?
Whats your PLL set to?Quote:
Originally Posted by lexus232
May want to adjust GTL's a bit if you have not yet.
Larry
i have been messing around a litle bit more and this was the result :D
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=468583
Max temp 67° (stress test intelburn ;) )
PLL 1.52v Which GTL i should adjust? (0/2) or (1/3)? And what difference between them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Lar
İntel e8500 and thermalright true black coller
bios 1702
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5 and 9.0 500*8.5=4250Mhz stability -500*9.0=4500Mhz dont stability
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 500 -533
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
1st Information : Auto
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Auto
C/P: A1 A2 A3 A4 | B1 B2 B3 B4
LVL: 10 10 10 10 | 10 10 10 10
CPU Voltage: 1,40 -1.46
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0,370
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0,470
CPU PLL Voltage: 2,00 -2.20
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40-1.55 500FSB-auto stability ,533FSB 1.42-.1.54 dont stability
DRAM Voltage: auto
NB Voltage: 1.40 - 1.50 500FSB- Auto stability ,533 FSB =1.42v-1.50v dont stability
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: PERFORMANCE
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled
my chipset nice coller two 6 cm fan
my cpu coller thermalright true black 120 two 12cm fan cool
my case two right intake 12cm fan and there front 12cm fan
my cpu 1.41 4250Mhz Stability 65C
1.42 and 1.48 4500 Mhz dont stability what the problem bios settings.
what the 533FSB nb and FSB Termination Voltage ??
İntel E8500 Cpu 4500Mhz 1.40v-1.48v not stability my bios settings ,what bad ??
helping me please
soryy i speak english bad
:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarosso
:))Quote:
Originally Posted by lexus232
testing volt
dont stability computer up voltage
windows open and orthos,cinebench testing auto stoping :(dont stable
???
1.52 for the PLL is good, maybe try 1.54v on it tho after tweaking the gtl's if needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by lexus232
o/2 should coincide to Workers 1/2 in Prime95. Run Prime95 Blend, and if 0/2 ie workers 1/2 fail first, adjust that gtl. If workers 3 or 4 fail first, try adjusting 1/3 gtls. Tweak gtl's in small increments and retest.
Larry
Some of your volts are Way too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarosso
Larry
AI Overclock tuner: ManualQuote:
Originally Posted by Barbarosso
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5 and 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: LIGHT
AI Transaction Booster: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1,40 -1.46
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26 for 4Ghz.... 1.3 for 4.5
DRAM Voltage: ?????
NB Voltage: 1.26 is more than adequate for 500FSB ops with no ram tweaks
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement : OPTIMISED
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled
It's not because it's not stable that you just up the voltages. With P45 and 45nm CPU's you need to find the sweetspot... I have no idea why you set some settings so out of proportion, not stable just up one more ?
And not all E8400/8500 CPU's do 4.5 stable 24/7... if I was you I would use 4.2 daily and try to find the lowest Vcore possible if you have not already damaged your current CPU with them voltages...
Plz read up first on how to OC and not just apply ridicilous voltages :down:
I'm sorry if this might have sounded a bit rough but you are wasting perfect hardware due to inexperience and maybe an impossible goal
Heyy Leeghoofd very very thanks man 533FSB stable
thank you thank you thank you very very much
30m munites testing orthos dont stop ,you post settings stable olaalaaaaaa!!!!!!!
30 mins mean nothing... use these settings as a guideline, maybe you can use less volts, but change only one setting at a time... otherwise you will get lost (like I'm doing at the moment with the Giga mobo pffffff)
i am bad speak english translate babylon dictoneryQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
dont understand okey no problem
dont stop i am testing 3dmark ,cinebench ,prime95
:)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=468697
wow nicely man dont stop testing
Thanks again
what does it mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I won't go into the technical Mumbo jumbo of that value ( as i hardly understand a word of that ) Mostly we noticed with the board that it wrongly detects the TRFC value, with 55 you are pretty sure it will work with any module... for 1GB modules you can tighten to eg 42. With 2gb dimms 55 and higher is sort of a must... but like I said before my templates proposed are guidelines and not specific required values. They have suited me well on this board and mostly you can run with a bit less, but that's for you to discover as each board/CPU/ram combo is different...
Hope it helps
bios settings copy paste post :) sory
my ram OCZ 2*2048 DDR2 1066Mhz
ram timing settings auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disable
MEM. OC Charger: disable
AI Clock Twister: Light
Thanks helping me Leeghoofd
thanks, but i still dont understand what it can give to me? Better performance, better stability or smth else? I set it on 55 and haven't noticed any difference. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
extra stability with 2GB dimms (Asus bios recognised my dimms with 50TRFC ), in your case not required try 42 or such
ok, thanks, i'll use 55 for my 2gb stickQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Look like finally got stable 4203mhz 1.344v in Linpack! Just increased vPLL to 1.54, set GTL 1/2 on 0.630 and now 15 linpack runs fully stable. :up:
Okey friends
my system stability 4420Mhz nicely 7/24
5 Hour Orthos ,2 Hour Prime95 , 4 Hours Game Testing Crysis Play :) dont problem
olala!!!!!! :up::up::up:
Today testing
525*8.5=4460Mhz
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=469294
Cheers :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarosso
I now use the 1702 bios from asus and damn I finally can run my ocz 8000 ddr2 4gb memo in dual channel ^^ But my system aint stable anymore so I had to up my nbv and from the memory, anyone the same problem?
*update*
Well after I run my memory in dual channel there was no stability to be found and before I always had it in single because otherwise my system would not boot. So I set them in single channel agian and everythings is fine. But how much performance loss will I get if I use single channel instead of dual channel?
What is NB clock skew and CPU ckocks skew options?
Hey people
My systems is driving me nuts! :mad::mad:
I have a E8400, Corsair Dominator PC-8500 and P5Q-Deluxe watercooled.
It's the GTL Ref's which is freaking me out when i get one core stable the other isn't, and then i reboot and giving the core that wasn't stable a bit more volt and then there both not stable at all....:(
i have following volt settings:
CPU Voltage: 1,45
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): :mad:
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): :mad:
CPU PLL Voltage: 1,58
FSB Termination Voltage: 1,4
DRAM Voltage: 2,10
NB Voltage: 1,40
NB GTL Reference: 0.595
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
I hope someone can help me :)
Plz fill in complete template mate, what are you aiming for 4.5 ? as those are pretty high voltages...
P5Q Dlx template
Im using Ket's 1403 Bios.
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8,5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 507
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: 1016
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: 5
Read to Precharge Time: 3
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 8
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 5
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 10
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: DISABLED
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLE
AI Clock Twister: ENABLE Light
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH2: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH3: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH4: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH1: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH2: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH3: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH4: ENABLE
CPU Voltage: 1,45
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): ?
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): ?
CPU PLL Voltage: 1,58
FSB Termination Voltage: 1,4
DRAM Voltage: 2,10
NB Voltage: 1,40
NB GTL Reference: 0.595
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLE
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Management : Performance
Switch to 1406 bios plz ( far better stability ) and change the above settings plz ( do NOT flash with an OC so plz load defaults before flashing )Quote:
Originally Posted by KLIM
You are pushing things and then wonder why you cannot get it stable.... first start off with a stable platform and then start to tweak...
KLIM has exact same timing as me...
But i am @ 550 FSB
My settings 24/7 100% STABLE:
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 550
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: 1102
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: 5
Read to Precharge Time: 3
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 8
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 5
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 10
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5
DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLE
DRAM Read Training: ENABLE
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLE
AI Clock Twister: MODERATE
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH2: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH3: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHA PH4: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH1: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH2: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH3: ENABLE
Pull-In of CHB PH4: ENABLE
CPU Voltage: 1,43
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1,56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1,26
DRAM Voltage: 2,1
NB Voltage: 1,28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLE
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Management : Performance
He got maybe the same ramsubtimings, but that is where it ends, look closer, He uses even another bios...
One thing for sure he overexegerated on the volts... And you cannot just copy and paste ram templates as each mobo/ram kit is different... maybe it works, most probably not...
how do you know what numbers set here? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kartoff
Look in the bios it tells them like eg 4-5-55-6-5-3-4
@ Kartoff and KLIM Isn't 1.43 and 1.45 bit to high for 24/7? On air...
my system is watercooled and my temps dont go higher than 60 degrees in load.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melhisedek
I use this timings since 4 BIOS releases before...
I dont have problems with temps too and under 100% load my temp is around 56-58 C. Sometimes i get 62C but it is also not a problem...
So did you give the setttings a go ?Quote:
Originally Posted by KLIM
not yet, but that it's the load temps from when i get 1 core stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
i have problem whit linpack
p5q del + q9550 all default linpack in level 1 give me error....
but level 2 everythings fine ( oc 4ghz too )
can you help me ?
64 bit or 32bit OS Riokabuto ? all default you mean all settings in bios on AUTO ?
32bitQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
all settings in auto
a bit more NB voltage maybe, have you verified with CPU-Z how low ya Vcore drops when linpack is running ?
Hello
I have a P5Q Deluxe Board.
I am running 450x9,Memory at 1080, Aircooling with Noctua NH-U12P,Intel E8400.
Cpu 1.30 Volt in Bios 1.288 in Windows
GTL's in Auto
PLLV 1.52V
FSBTer 1.26V
NB 1.22V
Ram 2,14V
NB GTL Auto
SBridge V 1.10V
Pci Sata 1.50V
15 Passes of IBT OK.
I saw people running Higher FSBTer Voltage is this not dangerous ?
I am using Air Cooling so please tell me which are the Maximum Voltages i can give without problems.
In other places i saw that the Board does a little overvolt,is this solved with the last Bios release ?
Thank you.
Normally with them volts (besides maybe a bit more Vcore and NB voltage ) you can get 8 x 500 stable too... there has been a lot of discussion about degrading cpu's, dying cpu's (only a few so don't be scared)... I think seeing so many users run 1.3+FSB term volts (mostly quad users) and till now noone has complained, the test by benchzowner (high Vcore, PLL and FSB term) : no casualties,... sometimes you can get a bad batch of cpu that just won't cut it...
If you want to be very safe keep FSB term under 1.3, PLL under 1.6 and Vcore under 1.4 and you "should" be fine...
1.3625 in the biosQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
1.36 on cpuz ( don't see the pic because i was in IDLE whit speedstep )
if i choose the level 2 or custom level ( until 1780mb of memory )
i have no errors...
but whit all the memory in level 1 i can't go on....???
and what does it mean :
you have tried to allocate more then 1.87 of memory while in a 32 bit OS.
probably IBT don't accept more than 1.87 gb of memory on a 32 bit OS for the test and so it gives an error ????
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9...8resizemr9.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/c...jpg/1/w800.png[/QUOTE]
Ok thank you ! And for the Northbridge Voltage ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
And what about the overvolting by itself of the motherboard ?
I found this that is speaking for Bios 1306 is this also with the new 1702 Bios or is this solved?
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4...ajestr0in0.jpg
Nope V1.9 doesn't give that error at all here with 4gb on my 32bit OS, previous versions didn't run the test at all..; V1.9 works fine here...Quote:
Originally Posted by riokabuto
But give LinX a try ( same test but in another util ) :
LINX UTIL
I don't have the boards no longer, sold them both time to move on... but my board overvolted way further than that, althogh I must admit I didn't verify it anymore since 1402 bios... just try to avoid AUTO voltages...Quote:
Originally Posted by omiez
Version 1.9 of IBT also limits me with 1.87gb. Tried changing the Memory Remap in bios also, either way and I get the same thing/shrug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Larry
Yes that's logic Big Lar, as the 32bit OS doesn't adress the full 4gb, but previous IBT versions (before 1.7 I believe) just gave an error in the program (program terminated) when doing the calculations or told me that it could not run the test...hence why AgentGod stresses to use 64Bit OS for more accurate results
Linx also tells it that it changed the maximum amount of memory but I just want him to test if linX will run (maximum memory selected)... to see if IBT has got an error in the program itself...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Gotcha, that certainly makes sense :)
On another note, I firmly believe that about 490fsb is about the max with this board and a quad cpu. I am able to get my chip up to 489fsb IBT stable there, tho only other thing I did test was Memtest HSI and about a 1/2 hour of Prime95 Blend. Tried 491fsb and it failed IBT.
I kinda doubt its the chip as I am still under 1.3v for the cpu, guess I am just greedy! Anything over 486fsb with MY board makes me drop the PL to 9, whereas I can run PL8 at 486 all day long with lower vtt/nb and pll. Hence I keep it there. Just some information.
Larry
whit linx & 1536 mb to test OKQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
but 2048 or + mb or max free memory it gives me error...
:shrug::shrug:
for me is a limitation of 32 bit os...
For those interested I have tested the VTT and VDIMM with 1702 on the p5q deluxe...and the VTT control is pretty much spot on all the way to 1.2 to 1.28V (ranges I tested). 1.20 in bios gives 1.205 actual, 1.22 gives 1.224 actual....etc.
vDIMM still overvolts by about .8V....2.12 in bios gives 2.20V
I would like to measure the PLL voltage but can't find out where the measure point is.
but define that error : does the program cap out ? what does it do ? I get this with LinX, this is not an error to me it's a build in program limitation due to the OS
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/linx32bit.JPG
PLL reading point mate :
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/vpllvfsb.jpg
and I think you mean 0.08 for the Vdimm :)
[QUOTE=Leeghoofd;3533136]but define that error : does the program cap out ? what does it do ? I get this with LinX, this is not an error to me it's a build in program limitation due to the OS
if i set 1536 the test is ok : no errors ( 20 times )
if i set max memory linx corrrects the amount of ram to 1748
but it stops:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/424/1748yi9.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1...jpg/1/w539.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Thanks for that, yes i meant .08V for Vdimm :D and the PLL voltage is reading 1.560V exactly with 1.52V set in bios.
So to conclude, for 1702 on the P5Q Deluxe:
-vDIMM = .08V overvolt
-VTT = Accurate
-vPLL = .04V overvolt
I have no idea why it doesn't work with you but it works fine here on my friends pc 32Bit OS and 4gb of ram :
http://users.telenet.be/OAP2/linxtest.JPG
What happens if you press the >> button of linpack ? does it give you a readme file or what ? you might adress that to Duallist ( designer of LinX) maybe he can help you further
i'll try to find someone that have the same pc as mine....Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
anyway thanks alike....
What are the top 5 best memory kits for this board?
Thanks for posting that.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by gurusan
Larry
That will totally depend on ya demands (2 or 4Gb) and ya budget... I've seen +1200mhz with the Gskill 4GB PC9600 kit...(but they are soooo expensive)Quote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster
Myself I've done 1112Mhz with the cheapo Gskill 4GB PC8000PQ kit. Mushkin PC8000 redlines went a bit further to 1130mhz stable and also were able to run 266 strap ( where the previous Gskill kit failed ) these are 24/7 numbers
With the 2GB Gskill PC8000hz kit I've done 1280mhz benchstable, mayeb they did more but it was nice to run some benches on them on these speeds
With your current kit (with the right timings) you can do 1066-1080Mhz with 5-5-5-15 for sure...
I can get these really cheap (MUSHKIN Memória PC Redline 2 x 2 GB DDR2-1000 PC2-8000 CL5) you think i should go for these?
http://pan.fotovista.com/dev/8/8/007...l_00732088.jpg
Same as the kit I used, apparently there are 2 versions : one in blister and one in a white wooden box... I've had no issues with them and they were a tad better than the Gskills... and indeed both kits are dead cheap lately ( around 60 euro's )
http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20004.jpg
I can get them for 49€ new since i got a friend with store and all... you think i should go for them then? :)
go for it !! 4gb for less than 50 euro's, is a steal and I used them all the time with only 1.92Volt in the bios up to 1080mhz
my gskill PC8000PQ primed failed at 1.92v, at 2.02v, it passed blend test...Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
why do u run at 1.92v pass blend test???
maybe your board doesn't overvolt mien did liek many others here around 0.08, so 1.92 was around 2 volts in reality... never had an issue here with 1.92...
Watercooling.
more fun whit bios 1702,but run in a bug whit mem slot ?? can not read 2/4 whit E8600? but 1/4 runs ok.
QX6850 no bug whit the mem :confused:
here whit slot 1/4
I cant get these Leeghoofd -> G SKILL DDR2 PC2-8000 4GB PQ SERIES DUAL CHANNEL (2x2GB) for 55€ what do you think of these also?
Those are very good RAMs. I had one of those sometime ago and they would easily break 1060Mhz with little tweaking. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Godmyster