Hi
im soon going to be building a new rig and im using the Asus p5w and i understand the latest bios is version 2004 , if i have no problems with my new system with a older bios should i still bother to update to 2004?
Thanks
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Hi
im soon going to be building a new rig and im using the Asus p5w and i understand the latest bios is version 2004 , if i have no problems with my new system with a older bios should i still bother to update to 2004?
Thanks
Ave,
I was wondering if I can buy & install a Northbridge cooling for my P5W DH Deluxe? Is this something I can do? If so, can anyone suggest what I should get?
Thanks.
Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II unless you want to bodge on a HR-05 with dodgy clips
I suppose one could use some screws instead of clips on the HR-05 along with some rubber washers for a firm and solid connection with the NB. I too am not a fan of the subpar plastic pegs they give us.Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
The problem is that this board has 2 hooks and not 2 holes for fixing the NB heatsink. The retaining clip provided with the HR-05 doesn't work due to the hooks being positioned incorrectly (or the clips - depends how you look at it).Quote:
Originally Posted by GFORCE100
I finally got the Extreme Spirit II installed. Not the easiest to install, but does the job.
I would recommend checking the base for flatness before installing, however. I bought 2, and 1 is extremely concave. First noticed due to the reflection (lines of light radiating out from a central point) and then after installing on the SB - only the 4 corners of the SB ihs were in contact.
I have also this mobo, and I'm having problem when i shut down my pc ,if i touch
like the mouse or the keyboard or even cable unpluged The computer itself turns on :(
Dont know what is it ?
Are you using usb port 3 and/or 4 for your mouse/keyboard? (the 2 closest to the sound ports). These are used for the remote, and I've noticed that my pc will boot up if I unplug a mouse/keyboard plugged into either of these ports.Quote:
Originally Posted by bin20
If you are using these ports, try using the other 2.
ok i will try what u said , i forgot to tell u I'm usin wirles keyboard and mouse, and the other ports for gamepad
I think my BIOS has been erased. It won't post but it will boot, HDD light is always on. Took out everything starting with memory, then GPU, and finally CPU. Cleared CMOS and still it doesn't post. It happened after trying to set my mem timings @ 3-2-2-5 2.35v at PC28500/1067MHz
Should I RMA it???
Use crashfree bios...
Yeah I tried booting with the Mobo CD inside the tray, and left on for all of 30 minutes before I powered down and started removing components. I will try again though, I've been looking for an excuse to try metal/metal contact with no thermal paste. So if this works I'll see how it's improved my temps -- if not it's a waste :(Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
This happens when you try to overclock memory with setting too low steppings.(at least that's what I noticed). Most likely the reason is that the memory sticks you have need more than 2v for boot. Even after you reset CMOS the system will not boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by pH(x)
Remove all memory and boot, shut off again, reset CMOS and put just 1 memory stick into B1 Socket. Boot. Adjust the memory voltage to required(most those 1066 sticks need 2.1v+). and restart again.
If that does not work, try using some older, lower voltage memory and try booting with it. once in the bios up the memory voltage, save and restart with faster memory in.
Hope this helps.
can some one help me here
processor: e4300
P5W DH rev 1.04G
Team xtreem dark promos chips/ 4 4 4 12 as indicated on sticker 2.0-2.2v
cooling tuniq tower + delta fan triblade
north bridge hr 05 sli
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i cant seem pass to 380 fsb wall T_T vcore is almost 1.6 and the mch/fsb/ etc is set to auto
CPU Clock 3424.2 MHz (original: 1800 MHz, overclock: 90%)
CPU Multiplier 9.0x
Memory Bus 380.4 MHz
DRAM:FSB Ratio 1:1
Motherboard Chipset Intel Glenwood-DG i975X
Memory Timings 3-4-3-9 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Winbond W83627DHG (ISA 290h)
Motherboard Name Asus P5W DH
Chassis Intrusion Detected No
Temperatures
Motherboard 37 °C (99 °F)
CPU 30 °C (86 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 33 °C (91 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 35 °C (95 °F)
WDC WD3200KS-00PFB0 35 °C (95 °F)
Cooling Fans
CPU 3409 RPM
Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.58 V
+3.3 V 3.31 V
+5 V 5.12 V
+12 V 12.25 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
This thread is 1 year old today and i've probably read every post. System is still running absolutely fine after 10months.
3.35ghz E6600 B2 1.435volts for 10 months
Holy crap it's been 1 year! wow didn't realise. This is the longest I've kept a piece of hardware lol
Anniversary :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
Think I've read EVERY post in this thread. General imression is: despite of some shortcommings, this is a super mobo. (from a former owner of a P4C800 - E).
75% of the trouble reported in this thread are user-related. What realy bugs me is the lack of support for my X6800 in bioses after 1601.
Congrats lawry:toast:
Yeah.. congo lawrywild!!
read every post of this thread and, will have to admit.. this is a very good motherboard.
which keyboard and mouse are you using? is it a logitech dinovo??Quote:
Originally Posted by bin20
I"m sorry for hijackiing this thread but I have a similar problem and yes, I use the Logitech Dinovo keyboard (+MX Revolution mouse). Do you have any advice?Quote:
Originally Posted by honam_gwj
Thanks!
yeah it is logitech +mx laser mouse.
I had similar problems w/ 1901+ BIOSes...Quote:
Originally Posted by pH(x)
For some reason the motherboard is picky on what ram I put in and if I put higher voltages in these ram it doesn't like it. I had a spare DDR2 512mb 1.8v stick and it boots up all the time, I swap it for these D9s and it wont boot, I go to my BIOS set the voltage to 2.1 then I swap the sticks and what happens? It boots up!
Though I'm having troubles trying to revert back to the old bios heh.. I dont have a floppy drive nor a flash drive on me and whenever I try to access DOS mode to change the bios my keyboard doesnt work (G15) lol and ASUS Update gives me that EEPROM Type error crap... This is because I don't have any spare parts with me cause I'm at college and 3 hours away from home lol...
the dinovo comes with a usb dongle,and also a long extension cable/base thing, disconnect the base and use the usb dongle only,,, it solved my problems,,,,
How high can you go on the PCIe frequency (above 100) and, does it depend on bios version?
110 should be safe, over that and you're risking HDD corruption more easily.
I have tried every PCI-e frequency from 100 to 115. I just run with 100.
I just can't find a real difference, or should I say improvement from running the higher frequencies.
Uh UZ7 I look at your sig and then look at your post and you tell me you can't afford another $7 for a floppy drive?
Woes me.
WZ
I have 1707 bios, and I'm wondering if it is a big diference beetwen 1707 an 2004 bios?
Bios 1901 (I think...the one before 2004)
What to do with the following settings, which are found in the chipset section of BIOS? I have them all at auto right now.
PEG Buffer Length
Link Latency
PEG Root Control
PEG Link Mode
Slot Power
thanks -Jim
Hi can ask a noob question about the wireless aerial for this board. The manual shows the aerial stuck to the side of a pc case but I was just wondering if the magnets will interfere with the components inside the case like the hdd the mobo or cpu? there seems to be something behind the aerial wherever you can put it on the case. Do you think it would interfere?
lol yeah, but my rig is one year old this month now and i didnt seem to feel the need for a floppy drive at the time.. till now ah well... as long as my rig is up and running well then im all good...Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
So nobody has heard of or had any issues with certain fan connectors not working?
I'm referring to my previous post but to sum it up, only my Power fan connectors seem to work and i can't figure out why. Both Chassis and CPU don't seem to be functioning and the new fans i'm trying to install both work off of the Power connectors, so it seems to be a malfunction of the board or perhaps BIOS?
Any ideas?
PEG has to do with a 'feature' that Asus has been using that overclocks graphic cards. If I'm not mistaken, the PEG Link Mode is the one that controls that. The tricky thing is that the 'normal' mode is not exactly the 'off' setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmsch
I've looked around for this info on Asus's website is very hard to find anything and the little that can be found is not exactly explanatory of what it does.
Those peg features simply add more voltage to your video card to OC it through the pcie bus. The pci-e bus is rated at 75 watts. Once you start messing with PEG it's not clear what wattage turns into. However, the problem is that is not how you OC a video card. And, you can mess up your video card if you are not careful. From what I've seen posted around (maybe 1-2 years ago...not sure) the best you get out of it (if tweaked correctly) is <3 FPS. If memory serves correctly, messing with the slot power can mess up your video card. Light could add more current while heavy adds less or something like that for nvidia cards. Again, I am going by memory from long ago and things could have changed by now. Peg link is the overclocking portion of PEG (PCI-express Graphics) and should be disabled, especially if you manually overclock your card, as it is notoriously unstable. The only thing I've seen OC was the peg link mode on certain video cards.
A year after it's introduction many issues have been resolve, none of which will fix the memory problems based on the FSB strap issues at least as far as I can tell. Using all types of memory there's simply no way to get this board to boot at 400FSB if the memory is run above 800MHz, below I used Crucial Tracer Ballistix PC2-5300 which to date gave me my highest mem and CPU speed simultaneously.
This has nothing ti do with this boar but the 975 chipset instead. f you want high FSB and high Memory speeds the P965 or P35 Bearlake are your only options.
If I'm wrong please correct me and do show me where I can find these specs?
EDIT: I forgot about eva2000's tests some time ago using an E6600 and kit of Super Talent 6400, thses kits were essentially the exact sam modeuls and chips found on their PC2-8000 kits from my conversation with ST. I believe this type of memory performing as wella s it does may in fact the key to getting higher memory speeds while pushing the 400FSB limit.
No you are perfectly fine anywhere outside of the case, the magnets in that unit are relatively very weak at a distance compared to the other (HDD, PSU) electromagnetic fields found inside of your case.Quote:
Originally Posted by lepbob
I thought they supplied adhesive material? I don't have magnets? Just keep them away from anything with a micro-chip in it, but as pH(x) said if you mount it to the case exterior you'll be fine, so ong as your case isn't aluminum :)
I just don't see the 400FSB limit with this board. I can boot at 428 FSB, 856MHz memory, 1:1, E6400 428 x 8=3.424GHz Orthos and Memtest stable for 24hrs at 4-4-4-12 and 4-4-4-5, 2x1GB 6400 G. Skill HZ's, motherboard revision 1.03g, Bios 1503. I went thur all 200+ pages of the thread before I set up this motherboard and everything went well. I have not changed the subtimings with Memset, however Memset shows them as 16T-28-6-11-9-8-5-4-6 when memory is set manually. When using SPD the Trc is 36. I am not an expert on the matter, but it just seems to me that the HZ's are made or programed to handle the tight timings of the P5W. Cooling is with a Zalman 9500, Extreme Spirit ll on NB and the Enzio forged Cu heatsink on the SB with a high output 40mm fan.
First time poster here but long time reader. :)
I'm very satisfied with my P5W-DH as I'm one of the very few to reach 475 MHz FSB before it shuts down (still on my tried and trusted BIOS 1503). My everyday settings are 400 FSB / 400-4-4-4-12 RAM. I recently got ahold of Micron 9DGMHs that fly at 500-4-4-4-12 (2.1v) in the very first testrun so they may have quite a potential.
Anyway I'm not able to boot at 400 (4:5) 500-4-4-4-12, most probably due to just 1.8v during boot (default 4:5 tRFC and tRAS seem all right with these sticks).
Do you have any recommendations to make my GMHs perform the way they are meant to perform? Messing with Win32 apps after logon is not an option. Thanks. :)
I have new problem: http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8...0455sc1.th.jpg
Do you think waranty will be OK? I'm thinking about new motherboard and I found Asus P5K Deluxe/WiFi-AP Wold you recomended somethink else?
save yourself the postage its an easy fix
Okay, i've installed 4gb of crucial ram, and ofcoruse i only see 3200 mb in my vista 32bit.
I am gonna install 64bit vista now, but is there anyting else i need to do? before i install 64bit?
Some changes in bios?
i see in my bios that 896Mb of RAM are appropriated... what does that meen?
save yourself the postage its an easy fix
I'm opened for solutions, but I want new mobo too and if I can get it for free why not!
In my continued efforts since my first post to figure out why only my Power fan connectors work while Chassis and CPU do not, i've also noticed that PC Probe does not seem to work either - no monitor panels and no sensor readings. I've taken a screen shot of the error i get when i first try to open the program (and it doesn't appear subsequent times after first launch).
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...probeError.gif
I did a search for this error but turned up only one page in German. I translated the page but there was nothing relevant. So again, does anyone have any idea what this error may mean and does it seem related to my fan connectors?
Following two previous posts might give you some clues:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornel
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=4183
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=4184
If you have checked the 24pin and 4pin 12v connections and have a good PSU it sounds more like a board fault. Have you checked that there is good standoff clearance and the board isnt touching the case anywhere . Might be worth trying it out of the case for test. Whats the wiring on you fan connectors 2 or 3 wires - check this out as it may explain why there is no monitoring. http://www.futurehardware.in/89002.htm . If you still cant get the fans to run I would RMA the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by dDub
what is the best recommended bios to use? i was using 2004 but got lots of problems, so i heard 1503 was the best and tried it. even worse problems. what do you reccommend and will give me a high overclock?
Check the thread - everyone has a different view. Personnally I use 1707 with winxp pro. Never had a problem and its doesnt get much bad press. A high overclock is down to how good is your CPU ,what memory u have, good cooling and the BIOS settings u use. Plenty get high overclocks with a wide range of BIOSes. What is your setup and what settings are u using?Quote:
Originally Posted by riiaku
Quick question off topic. I want to upgrade from 2 Gigs of RAM to 4 Gigs (2 more 1 gig sticks). Now I know there are two dual channels and I already have 2x 1gig - Corsair XMS2 DDR800. Should I get 2 gigs of the exact same or is it Ok to buy some newer and better to put in the other dual channel? Basically is it worth it? will they clock down to the older RAM? Will the computer know how to allocate game applications to the better RAM? You get the idea, thanks.
Is it possible to use MBM with this MoBo?
Yes - you need latest version 5.3.7.2 with coretemp plugins and you may have to calibrate the voltages. Check www.thetechrepository.com for detail as posted by freecableguy or do google search. If you get stiuck send your email and I will send you my zipped MBM5 directory. It also got the plufin for the NVIDIA card.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrancėJay
found it!Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...=74&highlight=
thks
Have anyone used all s-ata connectors on this board?
What controllers is the 2 orange s-ata connectors ?
The disk specification for this board is as follows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornel
3 SATA300, RAID0,1,5 (Intel ICH7R)
1 SATA300 External (I/O panel), 1 SATA300, RAID0,1,JBOD (JMicron controller)
2 SATA300, RAID0,1. Also supports RAID 10 in conjunction with the Intel ICH7R southbridge (Silicon image 4723 controller)
1 x ATA100 (Intel ICH7R), 1 x ATA133 (JMicron controller)
EZ_Backup (Orange) are controlled by silicon image 4723 . http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...postcount=4728
Try reading the P5W manual page 2-6 and 2-33 onwards for the associated controller and colour coding. If you search the thread there is a lot of posts with information on setting up and using sata for raid , using all ports etc. read the posts by FRITZSMAN on page 197 http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...postcount=4914 if you want raid0 and 1 using only 2 disks. It long but really intresting and informative. If you want help in overclocking post your current specification and settings
This previous post may also help you when setting it upQuote:
Originally Posted by TrancėJay
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...postcount=4462
My overheating issues seem to be resolved after spending $190 on a new case and heatsink. CM Stacker 810 case is roomy at the top for the down-the-road-a-bit liquid cooling, and without a case change the Thermaltake V1 wouldn't have fit. I now see that an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro can get dirty which may have killed its cooling potential, but once it is cleaned it can still be my spare...
http://www.mikepaul.com/V1.jpg
I picked up the following to update my system a little
Intel E6420
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Corsair Dominator PC2-6400 XMS2 4-4-4-12
Antec 650 Watt True Power Trio
First thing I did was crank all the following to their max voltage values.
FSB Termination Voltage 1.50v
MCH Chipset Voltage 1.85v
ICH Chipset Voltage 1.20v
I then Gave the CPU 1.5v in the bios. And the Ram its 2.1v
I couldn't seem to get past 3400 ghz at 1:1 so I figured that must be my limit. Especially since I was hitting 70 at full load on air!
So I then set it to 3200 and then reduced all the voltages untill stable.
Everything is still on air. Full load is around 59-63. and idle is around 31.
I guess my question is, Am I missing anything ? Or is this a pretty good setup? I think I covered most of the bios settings to get everything manually set. Any suggestions?
Here are some pics.
I keep wondering what causes different CPUs to run hotter or colder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proendo
I can't beat my overclocked E6300 down below 44C, but it doesn't go past maybe 55C under Orthos stressing. I do only use Auto vCore, and so far that seems stable enough, but I can't help think that when an oddball crash happens, like my antivirus announcing that it needs to send off an error report, that it comes back to some of my BIOS decisions...
I actually got the temps down a bit according to TAT I am at max load around 54
Ram is at 2.10v 4-4-4-12 now instead of 5-4-4-15
CPU 1.3875V bios
FSB 1.3v
MCH 1.55V
ICH 1.05v
Seems pretty stable at 3.2 ghz. and 4-4-4-12
Its luck of the draw - my e6600 idles at 48c. Good cooling makes a big difference. What is your setup and BIOS settings. How long have u run orthios with current settings. If your memory is XMS rev2.1 same as mine it has promo chips and they dont clock much at all which may hold your CPU back 1:1 . If they are earlier the willbe microns and need more volts to go above ddr800. As you say it is probalbly BIOS settings causing spurious failures ..Quote:
Originally Posted by mikepaul
My L706A499 E6600 is at 3.2Ghz. with default voltage. Voltage in Bios reads 1.30. My Corsair XMS2 4-4-4-12 is at 2.10 volts. I am running at a 1:1 ratio. I am using the 1904 Bios. Temps are 25 idle, and 42 under dual Orthos load.
1904 bios???
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http://www.developerfood.com/asus-ac...d/article.aspx
haha another 'victim'
So what is the purpose of your post - or are you just posting your signature?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speed4life
I think he was referencing his cpu temps but those aren't coretemp temps..
to anyone who may know, should I be getting the same bandwidth with my 8800gts on the outer PCI express 16 slot as on the slot closer to the CPU? My system seems to be getting a lower 3D Mark than I was expecting. Thanks
I see - obviously nearly all will get lower temps using default vcore(except your CPU of course ! Lol) but most want to clock the CPU and memory to the highest it will go. Speed4life has settled for what he can get on the default vcore - probably capable of more with higher volts and temps but if he is happy -fine..Quote:
Originally Posted by lawrywild
The 2nd PCI-E slot on the P5W DH only runs at 8x. Move it up to the top one.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbo
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to the extra performance. I'll report on the difference in 3d mark in a day or so.
Stupid board. Damn wireless died, appears to be working but there's no signal in AP mode and it doesn't find any networks either in networking mode. On top of that, the first memory slot is screwed up, I put any memory stick in it, which would work fine in any of the other three slots, and it gives me errors or hangs in memtest... Grrrrr, RMA time I guess... I had so many hopes for this board but it let me down... just like Abit in the past :(
Don't give up folks I have just finished a review on the P5W DH which mentions this thread and may give everyone who has hit a FSB wall some hope.
It will be published at www.madshrimps.be probably within the next 48-hours if my Editor isn't too busy, the guy runs a website, helps 10-million people everyday, works fulltime and keeps his gf happy? Is he the Uberman? You decide.
Checkout where I've taken my P5W DH where I once thought 400FSB was my stable limit. I probably could have got the Memory speed higher but the 975chipset (not the P5W DH) bootstrap issue is holding everyon back. The 460FSB screensht below wasn't Orthos stable but only because of the H20 radiator fan-combo I'm using. In the review I benched 445FSB stable at 890MHz DDR2 and without any problems. If you water-cool the NB THAT is the key!!! I have a NB watercoole but she won't adapt or the review would be very different.
Still I attained these becnhark without any modifications on the NB which is the obstacle. The CPU which is watercooled with the Sub-Zero block by Cooled-cases.de
Well, I didn't pull the BIOS settings but a strange crash at lunch and a post-mortem popup from Microsoft blaming my RAM made me run Memtest for the first time in months, and it locked up solid each time I ran it: once after 110 minutes, once after 7. This is the same setup that did Orthos (blend) for 2 hours on Saturday with no hitches.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
So I dug around and checked those suspect BIOS settings and noticed that while I can find what I think is understandable documentation on 4-4-4-12, I can't find specific settings for the fifth parameter in the BIOS, "Write Recovery Time". I had it set at 4, but with no guidelines and no memory of what it had been in less crashy times, I bumped it up to 5 and ran Memtest again. No lockup for two passes over 40 minutes, so I reran Orthos (blend) and again got 2 good hours.
So I'll wait and look for more crashes, and maybe track why things went south. I had thought Orthos was a good strain, but some of the crap I pull, like copying >4GB files while doing 5 other high-CPU things, have shown this machine really wasn't ready for Prime Time...
Thanks I was wondering what the hell ez backup was and if could be used in non raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by yobi
So to disable it have to use jumpers? not enough to disable in bios? and one of the ports will then simply be a ICH7 port?
I have 6 hard drives hooked up.
2 on jmicron PATA
3 on intel SATA - AHCI
1 on jmicron SATA - basic because when AHCI on jmicron PATA dont work.
The problem is with hd temp monitoring, SMART is enabled for all drives and only 3 of them are reporting temps/smart in any app. Both pata report and my raptor on the first Intel SATA port reports, so 2 on the intel sata controller dont report and the one on the Jmicron sata doesnt report.
Any ideas?
May be able to get u running higher or more stable if you post all your BIOS settings. What BIOS u using. Is your memory rev 2.1 - mine runs fine with WRT=4 @ DDR800.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikepaul
Anzial - long time no hear. I initially couldnt get the wireless to run in AP mode but it was okay in station mode. Have u tried cleaning the memory slot out with an cotton bud soaked in CPU cleaner and some compressed air?- an erazer cleans the RAM connections up well.Quote:
Originally Posted by anzial
If you were wondering going from the 8x PCI express slot to the 16x pci express slot got me a 13% boost in 3d mark 06. Thanks SESDAVE
I'm no longer confident that any post-mortem message I get means much. It crashed again at lunch to the Blue Screen mentioning why Windows was shut down to prevent damage. The BIOS change for Write Recovery was apparently useless, as is running Orthos to see if my system is stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
One point I discussed with a friend at lunch is the iffy power supply cable I had not been using much until this rebuild. It had been feeding only the floppy drive due to oddball things hapening when anything else was attached, but I've been feeding the extra case fans off it since the rebuild so the first thing I'll do when I get home is build a bigger octopus out of the one (apparently) trouble-free cable I do have and see what results: hopefully not a fire. No SATA-to-4PIN adapters in sight to make use of the other cables.
I do have a new modular Zalman ZM 600HP PSU on order from Amazon, but it's now delayed until an estimated July 10 ship date (originally May 26 or so). If it wasn't nearly $60 cheaper than NewEgg I'd have gone elsewhere long ago.
BIOS: 1707
CPU Freq: 410
DRAM freq: DDR2-820Mhz
Performance: Turbo
PCI-X Freq: 100
PCI Clock: 33.33Mhz
vCore: Auto
vFSB: 1.50V
vMCH: 1.55V
vICH: Auto
vRAM: 2.10V since I forgot where it fits into the list.
RAM details: Corsair TWIN2XP2048-6400C4
CAS: 4
RAS: 4
RAS to CAS: 4
RAS Activate to Precharge: 12
Write Recovery: soon to be 4 again since 5 didn't prevent crash.
Hyperpath: Disabled
DRAM throttling: Disabled
Remap: Disabled
Didn't write down anything else or get RAM specs from CPU-Z, but I'm not sure what else is critical...
Made a few changes for you. Please try to find a good vcore. Also, where you change your multiplier, everything should be disable except the Microcode Update.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikepaul
Suggested changes made. Max vMCH available was 1.65V. vICH at 1.20V.Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
Also fixed power-related issue, and added extra 80MM fan to left side grill. More air seems better.
vCore never seemed to matter before, and at 1.325V I still have CPU-Z telling me it's bouncing around under that anyway. Orthos now seems a waste of time to validate vCore, so what might be better?
And 2:45:00 or so into Memtest I started after the lunch crash the machine locked up, so with these new parameters and the power fix maybe an unfailed Memtest is my new stability check...
Hmmm, you must have a really hold mobo. Redo the vcore to 1.425 just to see if that's the issue. Do not use CPUZ for vcore, use AiBooster or even measuring it yourself with a multimeter. Good Luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikepaul
You have an early revision board which will only go to 1.65 on MCH. Most boards have a vdroop of approx .05v. Heres a link to some pencil volt mods if you want more http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876 but 1.65 should be okay for upto 420-430 FSB. I run vFSb=1.3,MCH=1.65, VICH=1.2. I agree that you should up you vcore - Loosen the memory to 5,5,5,15 if you cant get stable,. If its rev 2.1 it wont clock much at all. If it is an earlier revision it will be micron D9 chips and that will fly If you up the volts to 2.2 and tighten the timmings. Disable anything in BIOS u dont recognise or use - follow this guide http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict197995.html. Dont forget to diable any q fan control and virtulisation.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikepaul
Best monitoring tool is MBM5 - I posted details recently on were to get latest vesion with coretemp plugin and how to set it up. I can send you zipped directory if you struggle. Orthos is by far the best tool for testing stability!
Hmmm, I will give them a try later on. Any change log????Quote:
Originally Posted by yobi
Hey i see u use 4gb of ram, after i Flash my bios to 2004 to support Q6600 i only see 2800 mb so i just like to know what bios u are using atmQuote:
Originally Posted by yobi
If other know a bios there support q6600 and 4gb ram Plz say so ;) Thx
-:[CC]:-
You see 2800mb in BIOS or Windows?Quote:
Originally Posted by -:[CC]:-
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
In bios its say install mem 4096 but its only count 2688mb
Its stand like this
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Old Bios Rev ? cant remember ;)
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System Memory
Total: 4096MB
Appropriated: 0MB
Available: 4096MB
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New Bios 2004
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System Memory:
Total: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1408MB
Available: 2688MB
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So as u see its only use the 2688mb ; /
Hmmm, do this. Reflash with only 2gb, then add the other 2gb and see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:[CC]:-
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
Will try that but dont think its help ;)
Gona get back to here when i have try it
-:[CC]:-
Another mirror fpr 2103: http://rapidshare.com/files/38702028...eluxe-2103.ROM
hiya lawry do you know if the new 2103 bios has the unlocked multiplier for xtreme chips
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Originally Posted by nicepun
Ok now i did what u sayed but dident help gona try the new 2103 bios and see what happens ;)
-:[CC]:-
Update:
I flash it with 2103 and it dident help ; /
Update:
Gona try with some old bios now
BTW i use AFUDOS to flash with can it have anything to do with that ?
-:[CC]:-
Update:
I Flash it all the way back to Bios 1901 dident help and i cant get older bios in its just say *This bios is to old ore for a other MB* anyone know how i can get it to flash my MB with a older bios that 1901 Thx
-:[CC]:-
Then I'm fairly sure my recent crash issues came from using that bad PSU cable. The floppy isn't in use enough to destabilize things but three fans must have set things up so a sudden increase like launching a program while lots of stuff was going on left the system power-starved. One reason I stopped using it was the blue light on a fan it was powering dimmed, and only when I plugged it into the other cable did the light come back to normal. Only sheer stupidity made me give that cable another chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
Bit even with my old settings, Orthos had no issues for hours and hours. I've only been running it for 2 hours lately since learing from my 410Mhz setting that if my RAM is unhappy I only need a few minutes to have Orthos die. I've moved the vCore up to 1.375V just for the heck of it, but I don't expect any more problems. I believe I have the best early version of E6300, one that OCs like a champ, so issues with other versions and vCore don't seem to apply. I guess.
If I see no more stability issues, I'll be gradually lowering the vCore until I'm back to Auto. Until I replace my RAM with something that can go over 410, this version of the board will be fine.
Thanks to all for the input...
Don't have an extreme chip to test, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by GLENBOY
just when i thought there was not going to be any more bios for this tempermental m/b another leaks well i know i aint gona use this till its on the asus site learned from the beta 2004 bios :p
Anyone given a try to these new BIOS yet? Are we still hoping for mem sub timing? They are probably just another cpu code update..... :(
tried the 2103 bios and on extreme chips the multiplier is locked at a max 10 still with this bios and no extra sub timings for memory so basically i think they have just updated the cpu codes for the new intel celerons so imho not worth updating tooQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
Tried it, found nothing different to 2004 other than that I could no longer get my 4x1GB sticks stable at their usual settings. Back to 2004 for me...Quote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
I can't remember if the "Digital Home Mode" was an option on previous BIOS but is there now, that's all I can see that's new.
BIOS 2103
- P5WDH Rev 1.02G/66MOAG
- QX6700 (wk 35) @ 3.0G; FSB: 300
Nothing new that I could see, compared to 2004.
- same benchmark results
- same memory bandwith
- same temps
Will leave it installed for now.....
"Digital Home" has been an option for awhileQuote:
Originally Posted by nicepun
If anyone is interested I finished an overclocking review on the board at;
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=508
excellent review :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquid3D
edit: I missed the MCH and FSB voltage in the overclocking test. Could you post them here?.
Also.. are you using SPD timings at the 400/445 fsb, or you manually set them?
BIOS 2103
- P5WDH on both ASUS Global site and FTP
- shows as "beta" with following description:
Version: 2103 - 2007/06/22 update
Description: P5W DH Deluxe Beta BIOS 2103
Latest beta BIOS.
File Size: 701.22 (KBytes)
GLOBAL: http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...eluxe/2103.zip
FTP: ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/s...%20DH%20Deluxe