PL7 w/ CAS 5...should be PL8...
Over 1.65v starts issues with my board(real, not bios setting). maybe check bios reading and see if volts go over 1.65v, and then maybe lower them(volts and PL, I understand you voltsd are high due to PL used?)?
PL7 w/ CAS 5...should be PL8...
Over 1.65v starts issues with my board(real, not bios setting). maybe check bios reading and see if volts go over 1.65v, and then maybe lower them(volts and PL, I understand you voltsd are high due to PL used?)?
Hey guys, with my Q6600 I am having the over 440MHz FSB issue. 439MHz will be prime stable for hours at a time, but once I set 440MHz and up, it will fail Prime within minutes. Is this a FSBTerm volts issue?
Anyone had more success with a 45nm dual-core on the new Rampage BIOS? This thing is still taking .03 more volts to be 4GHz P95 stable then my IP35-E did :(
or Performace level needs to be changed. My board requires setting disabled "1" after 445...446 never stable unitl that one setting is changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
The 0401 BIOS for the Rampage is requiring more vcore for 4GHz Orthos stable then the 0308 one did, for my E3110 :( Might convert my board back to the Maximus Formula and try out the latest release for that.
grnfinger
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...2976/prime.jpg
you want settings now or shall i prime longer? :shrug:
this is on bios 0308 btw. i get lower latency and slightly better bandwidth with this bios. i could let it prime for days, the temp wont budge :yepp:
you NEED to hook up that other rad somehow! mount it on top of case mabye? one on back on on top?
*im rather disappointed in myself as ive forgotten which bios version i had when i could do the same speed prime stable on 1.52v :( *
You guys are right. It's the area where x38/x48 shines. Go for 450x8 if it doesn't require much more voltage than 400x9. I was first suggesting 400x9 because my nb requires a lot more juice for 450 than 400 (bad one)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Yes, but I am running a Rampage. I am thinking it's a FSBTerm volts issue, but I am not sure. I am hoping someone else here has had this issue fixed for them. It's driving me up the wall!Quote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
So why don't you up FSBt and see what happens, and report back? :p:
Well, because that's one of the voltages that can damage a chip. I am cautious about upping that voltage.
10% is safe 100%, AFAIK... so from 1.1v on 45nm to 1.21, and 1.2v on 65nm to 1.35.
Anyway, you got 65nm, so not so much worries...45nm is defiantely something to play with with caution.
Hi there !
Right, first post and done reading the 200 pages of this thread :)
The current discussions seem to be how you can reach the highest frequencies with a stable OS. My problem is currently to have a stable system with stock settings, and I hope someone here have the solution.
The (already seen) problem is that I have random BSOD under Vista and random segmentation faults / errors under Linux. I also have random Windows Services and apps failures (mostly "access violation" code 0x0000005 exception).
Yes, it looks like bad ram modules and/or wrong settings. Here are the facts :
- memtest86+ v2.01 returns no error (at least 10 passes, each module tested separately, etc)
- memtest under windows : no error in 5 or 6 hours (3 threads, the faulty memory region may not be tested because it is already allocated by Windows)
- OCCT : sometimes stable for 1h, sometimes crash in the middle of the test (code 4 in one of the thread or just a nice BSOD)
- stocks bios settings : 2x2Gb of G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK rated for 800Mhz, 4-4-4-12 (2T), tRFC>80 @ 2.0-2.1v, currently at 2.08v. Higher voltage or lower settings don't help, nor raising the NB voltage (currently at 1.4v).
- most of the bios settings are on "compatibility" mode (FSB @266, Clock Twister "Light", Transaction Booster Off, ...)
- freshly formatted and reinstalled Windows (with integrated SP1) : still errors.
My system was stable for 2 monthes (with heavy games like Crysis or Stalker running fine), then it began to slowly die. I've double checked voltages and temperatures (Everest, cpu-z, ...), everything looks fine. The only thing I've not tested is flashing to an older bios like v802 or to the new v1204 one.
The RMA form is ready, but I don't know for sure it comes from faulty ram modules ... could it be something else ?
If you need some details, just let me know, it's driving me crazy.
Thanks :)
C.
PS: I'm gonna test the ram modules on a Asus M2N this afternoon, and I'll test my system with 2x1Gb of Corsair 6400 modules. Hope it will help.
Is there a difference between the white and the blue ram slots?
First off dont flash to 1204 just yet, members at ocforums have been experiencing problems. I wonder when Asus will get this bloody bios right:confused: so many bios revisions still in beta just screams bad to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by karmounet
Now on to your problem, I had similar slowdowns and hangs with mine aswell and I noticed this happened arround when I installed SP1.It would take forever to boot and shutdown.I had issues with my ram and I know that cotributed to the other problems and maybe somehow corrupted the OS.
Anyway, flashed to 1004 and reinstalled OS and SP1 and now she runs great.
Just waiting on my ram to come back from Crucial, then I'm set. Oh and I wont be using the Ballistixs again with this mobo, (anyone wanna buy 8GB of the 'Red Ballistixs'?:yepp:)
My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.
:up:
hey all this is my first post, i've been looking around this forums for a while now and just got my account activated.
My old Maximus Formula hated the Ballistixs i went through 3 pairs and finely the 3rd pair seemed to work fine. I sold off my Maximus Formula along with my Q6600 to my friend cos he wanted one and couldent find one. So far with my Rampage Formula the real retail version no Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula conversion that i did to my Maximus Formula for my friend. The Ballistixs were running fine @ 5-5-5-15 1200MHz 2.26V. haven't run Memtest86+ but im very sure that their stable and ok.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaseMD
I've just tested the modules in a M2N (Asus) with "auto" timings (something like 5-6-6-18, I guess the board can't read the SPD properly), and memtest86 returned many errors in the very first pass. However, I couldn't set the ram voltage above 1.9v (bios too old or just impossible with this board).
Fine. Time to use this RMA form ...
C.
Really? Then that might be why my CPU kept failing P95 when I knew it was more then capable with the amount of voltage I was putting into them.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
I must be really lucky, then. I've never had a problem with my Ballistix! I'm on my second board, but still my first set of RAM!Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
I never had a problem with 4 gigs of ballistixs. I'm now running 8gbs of OCZ HPC PC 8500 at close to ddr2 1000. My NB volts are also really really low compared to some guys here. I'm only pushing 1.41 (what asus probe reads in windows). PL 5 or 6 I forget which one 5-5-5-15.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Guys, and gals...
Hi, when you are going on about the issues with Crucial Memory sticks, can you possibly make the distinction whether they are with the Tracers, or with the ordinary Ballistixs.
I do feel that the majority of issues might be with the Tracers and not with the modules I am using, and have been since last november, and it would clarify things a bit more.
Thanks..
Chris
haha Dosto its me badboychris from NVIDIA Forums, we must be the lucky 2 then :D
I have the tracers. I do not believe there is a difference between them and the non-Tracer versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuke2u
:wave: @ m4gg0t.
There is a new BIOS for Maximus formula, on ftp site, 1201 no info about changes.
Thanks for the tip!
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...ximus_Formula/
Maybe I'll be able to get my FSB past 444 MHz with this BIOS.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mazzy
When I set over 1.6V on NB I get some bios checksum error and the mb is trying to recover bios.... However when I simply restart pc it's just an overclock fail and need to reconfigure...
Anyone of you had such issues?
that only happens to me when my overclock is really REALLY unstable... like trying to post at 4.5ghz...Quote:
Originally Posted by sesion
hey i flashed my maximus to the rampage bios as soon as the mod was available, and i guess now there are updates available. Which one is the most stable for a q6600, as i'm having a lot of trouble getting to 3.8.
im using 0308 as it provides the best bandwidth, and my q6600 is rock solid @ 4ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by MurderCityDevil
What's that on the maximus? Any touch that yet? http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/maximus/IMG_0983.jpg
your pic isnt showing so i have no idea what you are talking about.
disables the CLEAR CMOS switch on back panel.
Internal CMOS clear. There is also the button on the back of the board near the USB.Quote:
Originally Posted by xtclocker
thxQuote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
It's the internal CMOS clear, not a switch to disable to rear button.
um, no kup, read teh screen print of pcb...or manual...
cadaveca is right. it disables cmos clear button on the back.
I don't know what's wrong with my board, i reach to FSB of 395 easy, pass all the test OCCT+PRIME95, but when i go up to 400, no mater how much voltage our options in the bios i change, the board don't pass prime test - "SAMLL FFTs".
my config are:
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
FSB Frequency [395]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [790MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Write Recovery Time [Auto]
Read To Precharge Time [Auto]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Auto]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Relax Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.537500]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.64]
DRAM Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.53v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [Auto]
North Bridge GTL Reference [Auto]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
and both spreard spectrum are disable
----------------------
any ideas :shrug: ?
Me neither, I am on the origional early release Tracers of 2x 1gb PC2-8500 and moved through 3 ASUS and 1 Gigabyte, of wich 2 are X38 and 1 P35 based P5K Deluxe. If anything, it was currupted BETA v0907 that killed my 1st Maximus. Even an extra set of same in an older server P5WDG2-WS Pro (I955X). So is there a pcb rev to look for if for those of us who like them want another set? Mine are exposed cause of external cooling, so very easy to look later if need be. Just let me nkow what to look for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
Only thing I can gusee, is to try to enable Static Read Control. It is normally used for higher FSB but maybe it can help for mild 400. It helps level out the FSB to NB strap curves as FSB rises, so maybe you atre getting a black hole inbetween. Not really sure. Also, if those are actual working voltages, some are quiate high for such little FSB, especially the PLL and FSBT. NB shouldnt need more then 1.42v, and PLL of minamal of 1.612v (or compare what auto returns, and use the lesser), and FSBT to no more then 1.488v for the 400x9. Also try, manually set GTL_Refs to their max of each 67x/63x.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAOTAO161
Man my overclocking isn't going so hot :( On my IP35-E, my E3110 could do 445x9 with 1.27 volts under load. Now on this board (RF 0401 BIOS) I can't do 445x9 with even 1.30 volts under load :( All my other settings are on AUTO. I've swapped out my Ballistix 8500 for some Kingston KHX9600, but still no difference. Does anyone have any ideas on what else I can try. I haven't tried higher then 1.30 volts because of my other board can run it @ 1.27, I should at least be able to do 1.30 on this one. I know all hardware overclocks differently, but .03 is a pretty big difference.
I have this problem also but I assumed it was my ram and have another set on the way (Team Extreem 1066 tested to 1200), yours should be fine I would assume so I would be interested to know what your fix is for this problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
:up:
I got this problem with my ballistix (6400) so I assumed its a ram compatibility issue and bought some Team Extreem 6400 only to hit the same problem at around 444 as above .Quote:
Originally Posted by TAOTAO161
:shrug:
I would like to see your setup for 9x450:DQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
let me worry about getting it stable:p:
Going to try to install the Swiftech220 rad on top tonight, just made a cutout template today, we shall see how it goes.
the settings are stable... woke up and it was still priming w/ no errors... thats about 10 hours or so. unfortunately im at work right now so i wont be able to post the settings till i get home. expect a pm :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
cannot hit ddr 1200 can you give me your bios setting to give it a try. If you guys ever get your hands on some Trascend axe ram DDr1200 it is even better than these doing DDr2 1333 and alows a much higher FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Im stressing 400x9 ddr800 4-4-4-12 pl8 (pull-ins enabled) with only 1.36v (everest) on my NB right now. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunlance
Cant seem to ever get it to boot on pl7 or lower unless I go to the 266 strap
, which my crappy ram cant seem to run stable at over 940 something :shrug:
So far so good with the 0308 Rampage bios.
I think I've finally found 2GB modules that will do more than 1100 MHz! Corsair Dominators FTW. 4GB passes 10 hours of Memtest at 1122 MHz 5-5-5-12 PL6 and tonight I'm testing 8GB at that speed. This is on the 400 strap and CPU is at 421x9.5 for 4GHz.
Has anyone seen any differences with the new 0401 Rampage bios?
updated to 401 from 219.. all good
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/
Finally went with your advice and Watercooled my GPU's on a separate loop, check pic links on my signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
nice pics man! great build :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jorgito05
how are the temps now?
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...05/Temps-1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
nice! :D from your pics, i understand you have the gpu's on the external rad? the external rad looks like it could handle your quad better than the internal. but then again i see space for a nice 120.2 rad right in the back of your case. ;)
now overclock your cpu! :up:
nice work again :)
Thank you,Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
I play with the OC sometimes, but usualy set it back to auto; Am afraid of doing some damage. Had it to 3.2 for a while running 400 1:1 on mem but when I would play a Blu-Ray it tended to flutter once in a while so went back to auto on bios.
cpu ratio:8
fsb frequency:400
fsb strap:400
pcie:100
dram frequency:800
dram comand:2t
cpu voltage:1.312
cpu pll:1.52
nb voltage:1.35
dram voltage:1.8
fsbt:1.3
sb voltage:1.075
load line cal.:.063x
nb gtl:.067x
dram timings:auto
dram static read:auto
trans booster:auto or enabled I think
Can't mount a 120.2 on the back, my psu is a 1200w and it extends out of the case. It would be in the way of the fittings. next christmass bonus I will probably get the qx9770 with a new x48 board and ddr3, then I will build a better external cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
i was thinking inside :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jorgito05
Anyone tested 1201 yet?
For RAM in sig @ 2.24v (5:6 @ 500x8) (I cant get strap 266 to hold stable for 1204 at my 480x8)Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1201]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
Primary Info : 5-5-5-18-3-50-7-4
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [18]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50] = 50
Write Recovery time: [7] = 7
Read to Precharge Time: [4] = 4
Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Disabled]
Relax Level [0]
Anybody have any luck with the 1200MHz divider when 480FSB (the 266 strap)? I cant get it stable. What area of loosening might halp? 5:6 on 333 strap is fine.
With my new ram (sig) i can get 470 x 8 stable.
my max. temp under load is 58. is that too much for a e6600??
That's very good for an E6600. I got up to 61c @ 475x8, but I know of many pushing 66c on certain rev. Mine hit 67c at 4GHz. Loaded. I had very early batch and it hit 501FSB and 4GHz so we got lucky. so I guess there're some lucky E6600's out there. And this was on an !975X P5WDG2-WS ProQuote:
Originally Posted by CaseMD
CaseMD, noticed that you're running BiosV1201.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaseMD
How are you finding it?
i see no big difference to 1004. yesterday i tested 1004 if there is a difference in fsb and voltage but cant find any. (in that short time).
today i changed back to 1201.
thanks, Asus is saying the 1201 has better memory compatibility.
Hopefully the 1201 wont fry another set of my tracers...
@Nuckin_Futs:
At what Voltage do you get 8 x 475 stable??
masska - what do you have your ballistix clocked to ? My 6400 errors badly at anything over 400 , so I got some team extreem 6400 which raised my clock ceiling to around 445mhz before they error badly too . I have some team 1066 on the way but Im starting to think my mobo is stuffed.
:shrug:
Guys, what the hell is this?!
With both RF0401 (earlier) and MF1201 (later warnings). The last time i had to stop occt ram test because dram ref voltage stayed high for seconds! This is scary...Code:===================================================
ASUS PC Probe II
Alert Log Report
Number = 35
===================================================
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1.33 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,14 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
Please say it's a sensor bug or something.
Settings (MF1201):
Earlier had weird drop problems with SB voltage (when occt, sb voltage dropped to approx. 0.5V for a moment), upped the SB voltage (and SB 1.5V voltage) and the problem disappeared.Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 08.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 447
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-895
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-18)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto
(these are all bios settings, not "real")
CPU Voltage : 1,33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,60
North Bridge Voltage :1,71
DRAM Voltage : 2,18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,40
South Bridge Voltage : 1,100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,55
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
These voltages are not final (most of them are more than enough), system has been unstable, after upping PLL it's been stable but these problems appeared. Too much PLL? Less is unstable though (crashes after 19min of occt ram).
Crap settings, im running 8x 450 with:Quote:
Originally Posted by beard
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,5 (1.62 real)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.6 real)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,2 (1.23 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1,050 (1,100 real)
also try setting those to DDR2 REF
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
New Bios, Rampage-Asus-Formula-0401.zip
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/
already posted, and tested. 0308 is faster memory wise. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
Q6600 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sesion
I know it's crap, you think i didn't try serttings like yours? And as i said, i'm aware it's more than enough. I've tried everything possible. Seems like adding cpu pll voltage is the answer for me. I was so stupid i didn't try it earlier (with these exact settings), i was staring at others' setting - almost everyone use 1.50 from bios. I'm pretty sure i'll be able to drop almost everything now. I disabled loadline calibration (didn't intend to use it anyway), seems like those weird problems are gone (30min occt no voltage warnings EDIT: 1hr). Better believe those anandtech guys about vdrop, i don't want to consume my mobo and cpu just for nothing, vdrop rocks :up:
First post updated with new bios link.
Sorry, you're doing a great job, and i know i'm being annoying, but you forgot the new rampage bios in the rampage conversion guide :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Yeah, just adding it now. I didn't realise there was even a new bios. I've been away and had some financial troubles so not been following the thread much but I'm still trying to keep it updated.
Is it really faster? or is it that they just changed some of the "auto" timings to different defaults?Quote:
already posted, and tested. 0308 is faster memory wise.
I have almost all of my timings set manually, but I did notice Tref changed default from 16383 to 3120 for example when moving from 308 to 401
its faster. i dont use auto settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
Yeah I saw your pictures a few pages back, but you didn't show any timings in one picture, which was the reason I was asking. Didn't know if you were on auto, or what.
I see the same thing too but it's very slight, the everest runs have a little play which is what I attributed it to the first time.
i will update the pics with full timings etc when i get off work if you want more proof. the everst play was taken into account, 0308 is clearly faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
Thanks for the template Zen,
Going to test them shortly.
Installed a rampage formula last week, must say I really like the board so far. Got my E6850 running at 3,6 (9x400 / 1,42v) which wasn't possible with the P5N32-e SLI plus I had before. Of course nothing extreme, but my pc6400 OCZ memory won't even OC if I buy a separate dieselpowergenerator and hook em up to that.
Still running stock bios so far, thinking about upgrading but satisfied for now, maybe when i get some faster mem and a 45nm CPU :P
Does enabling loadline calibration function really drop de vdroop? Read about being carefull with it on 45nm cpu's. Also applied to VTT voltage I believe...
Dont know about my 6850?
Also wondering if setting the command rate to 1 could help improve some performance, some reviews say it's mostly totally stable. But I remember earlier intel chipsets didn't really like/support it.
Anyway, will be following this thread closely...
Oh I'm not doubting you at all, wasn't meant like that...I don't need proof just clarifying what we are seeing. i.e I notcied one of the 5 or so settings I leave auto had a different default which did affect memory performance, if you were using anything auto that could have explained the difference, but since you clarified you are on manual for everything I got all the info needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
i didnt mean it like that i thought you were doubting me. i should post the pics up anyways so its very clear to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
*edited*
0401
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1revisited.jpg
0308
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...8revisited.jpg
same exact settings in bios. you are right, tref changed :)
Priming now while it sits on my desk, cutting up my case now for the second rad
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/40-2.jpg
very nice. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
but once again... bandwidth. what gives?
:shrug:
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...8revisited.jpg
im on performance level 6, no pull ins. for the $45 i spent on this ram, i got one great deal me thinks.
I have PL 7 atm and running bios 401 so that could account for the bandwidth issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
I will adjust to PL6 shortly, I'm trying to drop a few volts NB and FSBT
And I gotta run to Home Depot and grab some down cut blades for my jig saw, the up cut blades are leaving some burs I'm not overly pleased about.
Yes I'm too freaking lazy to file the burs down:D
i see. im on 0401 just to test the differences between the 2 again. this time taking proper screen shots. the settings i sent you were done on 0308, 0401 is a performance hit. they probably relaxed some timings you cant set in bios to make the motherboard 2x2gig friendly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
This quad with bios 308 dosent seem to like high FSB, 401 on the other hand will hit 508FSB on the 8 multi.
anything above 440FSB with bios 308 and the quad would not post with not matter what volts I gave it, now I have a golden 8400 chip sitting here collecting dust......to sell it or build another rig to fold or something
any body test S3 in any bETA afet 1004? And especially for the hack Rampage ones? Does the Rampage offer everything the Maximus had, such as auxilery probe headers to be detected by C prove II? Does it do anything better for the "Real world" daily used stuff like setting in PC Probe set up and monitoring? Since our Maximus had no eSATA or Wi-Fi, does it still show up in the hacked BIOS or just greyed out? Does it do anything for OS and software performance?
I see so much mention of RF bETA being faster. Faster where? What apps will show it's gains, "excluding" synthetic benchmarks? Can we see results improvements in transcoding as in autoGK DVD Vob/Ifo to Xvid compression? is it significantly less like minutes, or just seconds? Same given file and profile? What about quicker loading or RAID disc array and program start ups and entering and resuming of S4?
Does S3/STR work in any of the Rampage BETA's or finals for the Maximus? And before somebody blabs out "Who uses...?" YES, I and many others, actually use ACPI features and especially S3/S4. Here in the states, energy is not free, nore is our time or PC components, so getting in and out of the PC is essential for real world daily use. I have no need nor any desire to leave my PC in full throttle 24/7 365 days (if it last that long) for a higher core. I ask these questions as for myself and others, some of us will actually end up sing our overclocked PC for work or personal business.
I just bought on of these boards today! Hmmm. I can't wait to check it out. I hope the Ups guy hurries!
new beta bios for MF 1201
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/s...ximus_Formula/
Who has tested the effects of the Static Read Control in more depth? I tested just yested ay again but in actual aps in use for editing. and Disabled it. Now I didnt run any kind of RAM test to confirm. What Windows based app is best for checking RAM for read write and overall performance with Windos and apps? I did notice, not sure if it had to do with Disabling Static Read, but I got several Windows Delay erros and cannot save errors. I actuall just lost 1 scratch drive. I am now back to Enabled. till I learn more. Remember, I am speaking of FSB of 480 min up to 525. So is this something spacific to the FSB and chipset internal timings as a given strap? I am 333 strap since I can use 266 in this BIOS 9BETA v1004).
For the E6600, was somewhere close to 1.50 w/ PLL to 1.63v and FSBT to 1.47.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaseMD
I hear ya,memtest returned more than 400 errors for me. Played arround with timings for ages with these sticks and nearly did my head in. Are yours Tracers, I didn't notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
These are the settings that worked the best for me;
DRAM Frequency: [800]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
DRAM Voltage: [2.20v]
Everything else was left to auto.Ran and stressed fine for a while, then they died.I'm still waiting for the returns.Yesterday I was speaking to the guy from Crucial and after a long discussion about the issues these sticks have with the Maximus, he recommended to replace my sticks with 5300's.I told him 'no way'. He basically admited there has been a lot of issues with x38 and Maximus and that it was due to an incompatible bios. After all that he then went on to say that he would replace my red tracers with the black ones, as they have slightly lower lat. It doesnt make any sense to me because on their website specs, they are both the same.
Also just before mine RIPIECES, did a validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=349653 (check out slot 3).
Something dodgy going on here:up:
hmm. 0308 wont do 477 on my rig... perhaps i should give 0401 another try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I find 401 ALOT better bios than 308, I might toss my 8400 back in for fun tonight and see what the max is, I'll compare bandwidth shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
seems I might be a few inches short of tubing:mad:
So clock for clock BIOS 0308 is faster then 0401? However in terms of overclocking, 0401 is better?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
tREF is different in both examples though. That would explain any differences in bandwidth wouldn't it? :confused:
Makes 45nm quad FSB better, anyway.
That's what I was saying here:Quote:
tREF is different in both examples though. That would explain any differences in bandwidth wouldn't it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
However I used memset to change it back and it still wasn't quite as fast as before. Should have Zen change his Tref back and see his results.
Not sure if anyone can help me out, but figured I would shout out.
Fridged my MF to take the stock cooler off, but in the process appears to have killed PCIe_1. Video card stock fan stays at high speed, SB & NB volt leds are all lit for approximately 15s. Board appears to post properly, but no video.
Does anyone have any "technical documents" OR could point me in a direction to determine where the problem resides? PCIe_2 works with no issue.
Tried the following:
1. Flashed back to MF.
2. Reset CMOS
3. Pulled battery.
4. Flashed back to MR.
5. <suggestions plz>
are you sure there is no condensation in the slot? give it a good over with a hair drier to make sure its completely dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by chawks2
What's your voltages on this timmings ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Well all his "timmings" (spelled timings) are listed there. Not sure about the voltage though.
No voltages my friend ;)