6/19 BIOS, will post LinX 100 passes when done.
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Out of pure curiosity, what are the max temps you guys get when running LinX? I have the very same cooling setup that Eva has (taken from my trusty old Q6600), but under LinX I'm still reaching 88°C with a difference of 8°C between hottest and coldest core. Is that a sign of bad solder-die or solder-IHS contact? Or is this completely normal for these suckers? I lapped it to a mirror, AS5 still hasn't cured and until now I don't see a difference.
ChaosMinionX
Did you try your Corsair Dominator 1600C8D at higher speeds? I can't run them even at 1640 8-8-8-24
I ll try your settings on 6/19 and i ll report back, 100 passes of Linx is too much imo, 10-15 passes is fine for me to call it stable ;)
Max temps i ever saw was under Linx was at 21x200 HT Off, 1.39vcore, ~25C ambient with WC in my sig, that was 68-65-65-61.
sorry OT...I'm worrying about my GTX 275 as it went crazy temp when furmarking....default voltage 1.125v under load can hit 105C within 2 minutes ambient was 25C...........please help...:(
Okay, 7 deg. difference between hottest and coldest, but on a totally different level. My watercooling setup is in its final stages of purchase so I hope I'll have those temps soon too. I can't even Prime because if it should BSOD then I don't know if it's the heat or something else. Besides, 13h+on 86°C can't be good. Thanks for your input. :up:
Take the HSF off and check if it has bad contact/change TIM with something real would be my advice, but I guess your card is new right? Do you reach those temps with fan nailed on full blast (get rid of Auto setting)? If you're still that high, maybe it's time to revise case air flow? And lastly, nV had a habit of putting chips out on which the heatspreader had extremely bad contact with the core, but I didn't know that this is the case with 275 type of cards.. in that case -> RMA. In addition, around 105°C it should normally shutdown. :shrug:
Anyone got this board to work with an LSI card yet?
No joy here in any slot...
Cards are known good (8708ELP + Fujitsu siemens S26361-F3257-L256) and both are using the most recent LSI firmware....
The board is currently using the 06/16 bios.
Failing that if anyone has access to the bios team my current DFI contact is blocking access atm and I need acknowledgement that the bios team is aware or parhaps working on this issue... if you do or you have a newer board bios then please PM me as I need to get testing done etc and confirm problem is fixed or it is RMA time in a week and I do not want to do that...
ps. Many other cards (adaptec 3ware etc) have been tested and are working fine but i need the LSI cards to work with this board.
Im at 1524 8-8-8-19 on my OCZ it won't go any higher its stable here but wont really boot any higher. weird.
Something is fishy with this board and ATI cards
I'm currently running 12 GB's of Corsair TR3X6G 1600C8D, on the mATX DFI X58 H6, at 7-8-7-20-1N, ran LinX 75 passes last night at 1.603v in bios (guardian reports 1.58v), all other voltage settings default; one set of 3x2 from Amazon, one set from newegg.
i920 D0, 200 x 18 (turbo OFF) on air, boots at 19, and 20 multi, but a high PWM temp (90+) is keeping me from completing LinX -- gonna try an H8 when I get some time (and newegg ships it for free =P) and put a fan on the cpu area; a 120 in the cpu area isn't help much with the mATX board.
These are the options I'm currently running (when I test 19 and 20 multi, VR Max is Disabled, and Thermal Control is Enabled):
CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Disabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
i have a little problem, i use following settings
Vista profile set to High performance.Quote:
CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Enabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
And I set enabled x21 multiplier, at idle programms report this 21.
But then i start a load, multiplier get down to 20 immediatly..
what's wrong?
Yes, this digital power makes DFI hottest board on x58 as I see. Even EVGA run cooler.
I use waterblock on mosfets, and system temp stll goes upto 70C without direct airflow.
Are you with HT on or off?
I reinstalled mosfet block 2 times, and got similar results, tried it at open stand and in case.
Now at 4200 1.32v HT ON system temp is near 63C under Linpack. Prime gives a bit lower temps.
But this block allowed me to lower system temp at 15-20C comparing with MCW-30 on NB (before I may reach +85C easy).
And 70C I'm getting if run 210x20 or x22 1.4v, but those jumpimg multiplier 20-21 makes things unclear.
Now I'm stable with 200x21 1.32v 1600 8-8-8-24, but now those 1600C8D is limiting becoz they don't want to go above 200x8 with CL8.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4951/33261278.jpg
I'm going to try 1640 or 1680 with CL9
Ambient 25C, water 33C under Prime load.
HT on, very strange... you arent running PWM Frequency increased are you?
What voltage settings for PWM are you using?
Nope, I didnt change anything in voltage section except VTT, Vcore and Vdimm. Those area between mosfets and CPU, where many small details, is very hot.
At idle 4200 1.32v system temp 43C.
rioja
If you are using 3x2GB Corsair Dominator 1600C8D why is CPU-Z showing 4GB?
@4.2GHZ would make PWM a few degree hotter, even with low Vcore and low VVT.
You need good/top cooling to keep the heat nuder the control in these speeds, both on CPU and NB!. Higher NB-core and VVT-volt would make it even hotter, too.
Here is my @4.2GHZ with 1.23v/1.24v (Vcore/VVT) with a strong fan (Intel's stock CPU-fan) blowing directly on NB at 2039RPM, and that's all it takes to keep a comfy 55'C:) system-temp on my setup :
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/843/prime36n.jpg
tip #16 http://i4memory.com/102537-post3.html :)
Your cpu is very good if run 4200 1.24v :)
I have Heatkiller LT on CPU, MCW30 on NB, and MIPS on the mosfets.
At 4.2GHz 1.32v/1.34v Vcore/VTT temp stabilized at 62C PWM, 40C NB, 65C cores with 25C ambient under Prime blend. This is quite comfortable temps, but I'd like to overclock more :rolleyes:
Yes, I have been right with CPU-buying timing (again, :D ), and it runs stable with 1.232v @4.2HGZ, but I need lower ambient than 25'C to keep the Core-temp under 80'C under prime/LinX on my air cooling.
EDIT:
Right now which I have the summer sun in my room all afternoon, and right on top of my case, I'm very happy that I'm running it at 1.15v @4GHZ.
I think pwm temps also depend on cpu used... hot cpus i.e. low vcore/high temp varieties when lots of cpu vtt is used tend to run hotter on pwm load temps than the cooler cpus that run relatively higher vcore but have lower cpu temps. Such is my W3520 which at higher cpu vtt has higher idle/load pwm than my 4x i7 920 c0/d0 cpus - touched on topic along with pwm cooling tips here http://i4memory.com/f80/t3eh8-very-h...m-temps-18015/
3oh6 reviewed EVGA Classified and PWM still reached >75C with 1 fan on PWM, and 60C PWM with 3x fans for PWM temps http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-14.html
Temps with the Northbridge watercooled.
http://www.edgeofstability.com/image.../misc/4200.jpg
Yeah, thanks for that. I don't really think I'm beyond what would be considered an ideal relationship in voltages. I've already been through DFI's version of hell with rma and this board so that will be a last resort. I've run 3 different C0 920s and all 4 of my w3520s in here and that seems to not matter but as long as I play the occasional 'musical chairs' as noted in the tip pointed out it's all good.
Nothing to do. I find the stability and i lost it after a reboot. I'm so sad :(
This board kinda blows, my MSI X58M was much better and was half the price.
Anyways, I can't get my OCZ RAM past 1528mhz 8-8-8-24 1.66v. Any fix for this?
Will not even load windows with 20 multi, pretty strange my MSI did so its not the chip.
Are there any bios that let you lower the VTT/QPI Voltage to less then 1.21? This chip needs less then 1.15. MSI beats the DFI in voltage too haha
And my chip needs 1.28v to be 4gig HT stable.
Not to mention the 21x Xeon multi issue. DFI says it's a bios issue, so Im running vista now
Hello,
I have a Gigabyte X58-DS4 and I am BCLK-limited : the i7 920 runs at 21x221 Mhz, 1 h OCCT stable at 1.35 V, with a phase change cooling. I think that it is able to overclock at 235x21 Mhz at 1.45 V. Consequently, I am searching for a motherboard which attains a BCLK of 235. I saw that eva2000 reached that value. But the QPI/DRAM and DRAM voltages were higher than I would like : on the DFI X58-T3eH8, I intend to run OCZ Platinum 10800 cas 7 memory at 1410 Mhz (6x235) 7-7-7-16 with a voltage inferior to 1.65 V and the uncore at 3525 Mhz (15x235) with a QPI voltage below 1.35 V. Would it be possible ?
Thanks.
The multi gets stuck anywhere between 12-21x in Windows 7. DFI said it's a bios issue and if u wanted it to stay at 21 with High Performance you need to run Vista. Sometimes it would say 21x multi in Win7 but it would switch back in forth so fast from 20 to 21 it would show 21 but benchies would show it being stuck at 20.
Finally got 8hr Prime stable at 4ghz, took 1.264v though with a max temp of 89c
Nah it doesn't, but this board wont even boot windows with 20x200, will run 19 and 21x200 though
Doesn't like 20 multi, even though my MSI did so its not the chip. And Im tired of trying different BIOS the latest beta bios seem's to work the best because it actually will reset and not get stuck in an endless post cycle.
What's the difference between setup exit shutdown mode 2 and 1?
It works fine in Vista ;)
Finally got it running 8hr prime stable 4ghz 1.264v on air. I know, terrible chip
Ya it's not horrible it kept my Q9550 at 65c at 4ghz. I think i got a very high leakage chip. so 8hrs prime stable isnt 1hr OCCT stable. Had to put it up to 1.28v
OCCT and RealTemp show 1-2c difference for me
blah, just crashed after 1 and half hours of OCCT at 1.28v. Why does my chip suck so hard, wonder how much Water would help it
Hi I am looking at buying this DFI LANPARTY UT-X58-T3EH8 board for my new system,the only part I have so far is the D0 core 920 cpu,does anyone know if this board will boot a D0 core i7 920 with the stock bios it ships with.
The thing that worries me is that I don't have my older core i7 920 with the older stepping anymore since I sold it all to fund the new system,if I needed to flash the bios to make the D0 920 work with this board.
It should work, mine did. I got shipped with 2/17 bios
I have to buy a new kit of ram, any advice? I need a 3x2 kit that can do 2000mhz (with 150€)
Don't buy OCZ for it. Anyone have a fix for OCZ1600 kits yet? I can't even run superpi 32m at any speed it errors out
A good fix could be running OCZ1600 with 6x and tight timings. Have you tried @1200MZ 5-5-5 or 6-6-6?. You won't loose much 24/7 performance.
As far as i have managed to follow, all current modules have problem with running @2000MHZ+ for 24/7 use, on any MB. Unless you use a good deal extra voltages specially VVT-volt (Intel's recommendation is max 1.35v for 24/7). You could buy one of these "damn expensive" kits and try it, but I'm afraid you would (again) get problems with running it at rated speed for 24/7. Maybe we should wait for next gen RAM?
I was thinking to try some ECC-memory with my W3520. It would hopefully give some good results on Xoen, but I have only found some 1333MHZ (x6 again, LOL) modules. I couldn't find any high-end ECC modules yet, maybe it would show up soon too?
I got it to work finally!
here are my specs.
19x211 4GHZ HT, RAM 1266 7-6-6-16-1T 1.66v VTT 1.21v superPI 32m 9m 35s
Also ran 1166 or something 6-6-6-16-1T 1.66v but 1266mhz at that speed failed right when I hit start
Guys, don't outright blame the ram unless you have tried it in some other board.
Ok, I've used CPU-tweaker so here is my timings etc...
http://i42.tinypic.com/23gz5ub.png
Is that too tight? I just tried too loosen up all them...trfc to 68 and it still fails the same
i know nothing about ddr3 i7 ram timings, what should my starting point be??
I'm running my OCZ1333MHZ CL7 at 6x with 6-7-6-22 1N, 1.65v and DRAM PWM switch to "reduce 15%", and 16x Uncore. All my sub-timings are on auto, and are almost the same as yours, but i see a big different on tFAW and RTL, 12/44(yours) and 15/60(mine). You can see my timings here:
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6018/linx3.th.jpg
EDIT:
I remember when i was playing with RAM on my C0, I discovered that my sticks runs more stable with loose tRAS. My tRAS is 22 and yours is 16, and you could try to loosen yours.
Can you try to run superpi 32m? Im going to try to replicate your settings really fast
Just tried your ram settings exactly, and even added to 1.69v.
Fails 32m in 5 seconds
I tired both SuperPI and HyperPI without any problem before, but did a fresh run to make sure again, and it is running just fine:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/30/superpi32m.th.jpg
actually auto is crashing too. i thought it loaded before
just tried them all individually, and they all crash loading windows. tried the yellow ram slow instead of the green...wouldnt even post
last one i tried got into windows and primed for about 5 seconds then errored out
and i tried it 8-8-8-24 auto settings 1680mhz, and the settings you said. both failed about the same
ok im extremely pissed now. just bought another 6gig, not even 1 stick will post in the other yellow slots at bios defaults.... what the hell!!
Peen,
You really need to find someone with a different board to try your ram in. I have some 1866 here that won't even boot into Windows at 1710 or higher. Have them running in a P6T right now at 1866 with no problems at all. The yellow slot can't be used by themselves. Is that what you are attempting?
Praz my ram worked fine in my MSI X58M so I know its the board thats having issues. Sounds like im not alone though...ok so the yellows don't work on their own...thats good to know
Currently I'm fighting with Dominator 1600C8D ver 2.1 for next level :)
Running CPU 4300MHz with ram 1640 8-8-8-24 or even 9-9-9-24 (if all timings in auto) with setting VTT 1.32v Vdimm 1.635 results in BSOD after 10 mins Prime, but Lynx 20 steps passed succesfully.
If I set VTT 1.34v Vdimm 1.65v I get error in one thread of the Prime Blend after 1.5 hour.
What should I do next, rise voltage more or try to do some bios tweaks?
I do know what timings i have to use in 1640 becoz memory rated only at 1600 and very tight in overclock.
Bios 06/19 seems to work pretty good.
Btw, this RAM is stable at rated 1600 8-8-8-24 VTT 1.32v Vdimm 1.61v with CPU 4200
Yes, same kit. I lost stability after reboot :shakes: here's my test.
http://www.iouppo.com/life/pics/4537...51a4b99b81.jpg
ok good thats new to me, used to the old FSB boards where it didn't matter.
ok it's friday and that means I get to play with it! It's acting very strange, seems stable (prime, superpi) but it randomly just freezes even in the bios. Time to mess around some more
@Peen.
As long as you have a D0 cpu in your mobo, you will NEVER get it stable with ANY consistancy.
The DFI UT X58-T3eH8 has a major problem with D0's and has done since the DO's were released. You may well get it Prime stable for 1 run, but as soon as you reboot or shutdown and start up again, it will be unstable.
The instability rears it's head when you get near to or at the rated speed of each divider, that is 1600mhz, 2000mhz and so on. Your only hope of getting consistant stability is to drop to the next divider down, which of course limits your clock.
It's my view that this is a mobo problem, because DFI has known about this for months and has not come up with a bios to fix it. If a new bios could fix it, they would have released one by now.
hm, i think my board is absolutely stable at 4200 with ram 1600 8-8-8-24 at any consistancy
You may well have a different "batch" of mobo, from those that it does affect.
But be in no doubt, it does affect a large amount of people. All the Mods (that have the mobo) at DFI Cub are suffering from this. If you look at posts on other forums, you will see it is very widespread. When you are suffereing from it, it makes your mobo next to uselesss.
actually, i had some problems after rebooting, but it was when i just started my overclock.
later, closer i was to stability less problem i had. so finally i set my first stable 4200 level and didnt see such problems anymore. now i almost stable at 4300 1640 8-8-8-24 (1.5 h prime stables before error), need some tweaks to get further.
i have a feeling that these issues rise from some un-balance in various voltages.
but your sttaement worries mne a bit, becoz i want to assemble second system based on dfi x58 and d0 :eek:
do u know quick way how to check this issue?
Mines been stable when it's set right. I had it running for a few days but it was pretty well under spec'ed on the ram. Had 4Ghz though...I do agree that this board is finicky and pretty much a turd. CPU and RAM worked x10 better on MSI board and it cost half the price
it seems i catch this instability, after sevearl random reboots i run linpack and get bsod after a few seconds.
although i passed 20 runs in linpack before with same settings
Thats weird, have had that happen to me with other builds. Figure it must be a bios bug, what bios you using? I used the newest Beta and thats never happened.
this is with latest 0619
so is it a global issue with dfi x58 and d0?
i reset bios and load again and again run stable 20 passes at lynx
ehh, im getting crazy and want to get foxconn bloodrage tommorow :D
what do you think, will it allow me to get 4200-4400 for 24/7 use?
Being able to run Linpack/Linx clear on one boot, but on re-boot it fails, is typical of what is happening with this mobo and Do's. Prime runing clear on one boot but failing on the next is also typical, as is Hyperpi.
RTL's changing from one boot to another is typical as well.
The people at DFI seem to think it only affects Elpida based ram, i have to firmly dissagree with that view. My OCZ isn't Elpida based, but i still get the same problems.
One other thing i have noticed with my D0 is that VTT is in fact much higher than set in the bios. For instance, when set at 1.21v in the bios, it's actually at 1.26v but then rises even further to 1.28v when under full load.
As you can see, this is a major problem. A lot of D0's just don't need large amounts of VTT. If your's happens to be one, then of course you would be fubbered, but you may well never know why.
I noticed the raise in VVT, from 1.21v(Bios) to 1.24v/1.26v(idle/load), but the rest doesn't apply to my setup. I have never had any problem with SuperPi, HyperPi, LinX nor Prime95 after finding the stable OC. My RTL doesn't change either (as far as I have managed to follow). I'm running my RAM at 6X and it may have something to say, but if I understand you guys right, this could be related to RAM, CPU or MB/BOIS (or a combination of these). But whatever it is, it is not affecting the stability av my setup :)
Yes, I bought these at the bigging of i7-release (while RAM was crazy expensive). These has been " relatively cheap" and has been running @1266MHZ 6-7-6-22 with acceptable results while I have been waiting for price drop on Elpida-modules.
I'm considering to get 6GB Elpida, and have been looking at Dominator GT 1866MHz CL7 lately, and that's why I'm following your discussion. But after listening to you guys, I'm getting cold feet about changing RAM.
Well i figured out how to get 20x multi. Need to leave turbo enabled but turn of EIST. If I turn off turbo it is unstable at 20x multi, completely backwards.
Anyways, this allows me to run 20x200 and 1600mhz ram so I can see if I can even get it to run at spec...
So I tried 1600mhz 1.66v 8-8-8-24-2n trfc 68, trrd 6, still fails 32m superpi sometimes right when i hit the button sometimes a little further in.
And also I tried ram in yellow and green slot and it worked, so thanks for telling me it will only work when greens occupied too :)