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Finaly I did run Prime (Thx KTE 4 Link) on my system for 8 hours with this settings:
HTT=255
CPU=11x
NB=9x
HT-LINK=1.8ghz
vCore=1.465
CPU VDDA=2.8v
vNB=1.4v
vHTT=1.3v
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7...me95830xt5.jpg
The temps are lower ~10º bcz I had to take my son to school.
http://www.geocities.com/ranger_x3/P...00257x11.5.jpg
Ok guys, I let this one run overnight. Temp 1 is CPU, Temp 2 is Mobo, Temp 3 is just random, at idle its about 49-50C, and goes to 127C when the cpu is at load, but it doesn't affect anything. The temps are a bit higher in this one because I turned the fans down to 20% cause it makes it alot easier for me to sleep through it. I never had that bsod problem that you do KTE, mine are either stable, or the computer just hates me. And don't worry, I will get some pics of my setup, I haven't forgotten that. I'm just trying to get it to run well first.
Edit: Ok, now I can't get anything higher than 257 stable. I've played around with all the voltages I can except the nb pcie pll voltage cause that means nothing to me. I'm not going to have time to do much else till tomorrow guys, and KTE I will take pictures of the setup with and without the clamshell on, I'm thinking that I'll put the 9500 in tomorrow cause it handles voltage well, much better than the others.
Yeah me too.. :( :( if that lady in the av was important to you tictac I would've kidnapped her by now just to make you mod a BIOS for us -> :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by jonspd
But AMI BIOS are next to impossible to mod so far by users or I'd be able to botch something up, especially the MSI ones here. Only some AWARD BIOSes are doable. Still I'm testing and providing them feedback and am counting on MSI now, since they're working hard at it. The board has limitations hence the limited BIOS options. Otherwise this board is very near the price of the 770 BIOSTAR which has been made far better because of Polygons mods... imagine a good BIOS on this board, for its price, it'll top the 790Fx offering price:performance by far IMHO. I've played with nearly all the major 790Fx boards now and can work with and keep any one of them. TBVH I'm not after the biggest oc/bench/etc but the cheapest/pain free oc/platform/performance/stability with an AM2+, hence why I haven't ran my others boards and joined in them threads as often and chose to deal and work with the MSI, because it's the best prospect and attraction to the AM2+ platform along with 780G and BIOSTAR 770, it's a budget offering. US/CAN has them more expensive than EU/Asia though. The MSI is the dark jewel of the RD790 IMO (mainly price:offering) and once we can nail it's issues, many people will be happy and have a v.good board to get for an AM2/AM2+ for such a price = worth it.
To make it clear here's my quick take on the RD790 AM2+ boards for a prospective buyer and enthusiast with a Phenom;
Overall Criteria:
P = Price, price, price, price.
A = Availability, availability, availability.
P = Performance, performance.
S = Stability, issues, support.
L = Layout, features, ease of use.
O = Overclocking (incl. BIOS).
Excellent = :up:
Mediocre = :)
Inadequate = :(
Poor = :down:
Major Focus Point: Is it worth the cost? Worth the upgrade from AM2? Worth it over a cheaper 770/790x/790Fx? Are you actually getting what you paid for and deserve as a hardworking human needing every penny (Billionaire Gates are exempt here)?
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AM2+ MBs: Excellent boards and offerings overall. Love the well priced Intel/P35 but these affordable boards are a level better for ATi cards IMHO. YES Tri-fire and Quad-fire is coming, I can tell you that much and that is why 3/4 slots were put on these boards. No fixed timeline yet.
ASUS RD790: Too expensive FWIW, offers nothing more than others for $100 more but a slightly better BIOS. Still has BIOS issues although very good for overclocking. I would not recommend you pay for this so ASUS can become sane and drop prices to the level it's worth and to the level that makes buying it with a Phenom worthy. Phenom/Spider is a budget rig and such board prices stick out as outsiders making it unattractive. I would buy an Intel C2+P35 if you want to pay so much for a board. Buy an Abit IP35 Pro and sail away with something better than rip off ASUS Blitz Formula (check benches).
P = :down:
A = :)
P = :)
S = :)
L = :)
O = :up:
DFI RD790: Probably the best MB/BIOS for AM2+ although has way too many issues and problems, is way too expensive and scant in availability over the major markets. I like the PWM and OC on this board very much.
P = :down:
A = :down:
P = :up:
S = :(
L = :(
O = :up:
Gigabyte RD790: Best overall stable board I've seen, for day to day running, performance, oc, issues and availability. Although price is bad and RAM clocking is poor.
P = :down:
A = :)
P = :up:
S = :)
L = :)
O = :up:
Sapphire RD790: Everything the same as the DFI but I love it's colours more. :D
P = :down:
A = :down:
P = :up:
S = :(
L = :(
O = :up:
MSI RD790: This board is IME still one of the best RD790/Phenom boards. It has far less issues than the DFI/Sapphire although they have better BIOSes. It has clocked RAM higher than the DFI/Sapphire/Gigabyte, allows more VDIMM too. A few more BIOS options and tweaks and it'll be close to topping the chart and yet look at the price, features, layout, cooling, design and respective performance: +390-500HT.
P = :up:
A = :)
P = :)
S = :)
L = :up:
O = :)
And yet I'm reserved. How many of those :) are about to be :up: ?
Personally I love the quick reboot and startup buttons on the MSI, makes life a hecka of a lot easier. But I do miss the ASUS EZ Flashtool feature and the DFI BIOS.. and the Sapphire colors... and the Gigabytes performance.. and :p:
2x CPUZ -> Memset (repeat calling the PLL)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonspd
Firefox-> Youtube -> 3 tabs, 3 videos playing (IMC)
Firefox -> Imageshack -> Multi image uploader -> +4 uploads (CPU+RAM)
Should do the trick just fine. ;)
Here's some tools you guys should, I advise, install to run/bench/test/compare your setups:
Phenom TLB Patch Completely Disable: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...85#post2771285
Yes it works real, restores 100% performance. I'll update once I get Phenom up again to show you the easy way to apply auto (already mentioned however);)
Catalyst 8.2 (ATI GPU's): http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx
AMD OverDrive 2.0.14 (Beta): http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...0.14_Beta.html
Phenom Drivers/Utilities: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._15259,00.html
AMD 700 series chipset Drivers/Utilities: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_chipset.aspx
Prime95 v25.6 (main stability test): http://www.majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html
EVEREST Ultimate 4.20.1294 (Beta) (various incl. stability test): http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...g0swdy7hkn.zip
-Iometer (drive benchmark): http://www.iometer.org/
DU Meter (network benchmark): http://www.hageltech.com/dumeter/
Memtest 3.6 AHCI (RAM tester): http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
*RightMark Memory Analyzer 3.7: http://cpu.rightmark.org/download.shtml
-Use the file zipped up that I'm attaching to configure Iometer and run the benchmarks.
*[includes RM RAM Stabilty Tester, RM Memory Analyzer and RM Multi-Threaded Memory Test]
The SB600 is good for I/O and HD performance, just have one capable of decent speeds with the chipset drivers installed and run I/O Meter. Watch the results. ;)
When you install something, be sure to reboot for the installation to be finalized. Also, EVEREST stability test can be used, is nifty and redesigned top to bottom now but while it will show a very unstable processor up within 5-10hours, it won't show many other forms of CPU/RAM instabilities which Orthos/Prime95/OCCT/Linpack/TAT will show within a minute and the load=temps is also much lower. On my Q6600 (now) 450x8=3600MHz for instance, the loads=temps induced;
EVEREST: 51C/52C/49C/48C
Orthos: 55C/55C/52C/52C
OCCT: 58C/57C/53C/51C
Prime95 (SF): 69C/69C/67C/67C
Linpack: 72C/72C/69C/69C
Intel TAT: 78C/78C/75C/75C
aGeoM and Oldguy932: Looking better, finally. :up:
aGeoM: Are you sure you need that high a VCore? Trust me those temps on air will be very high. Also, why is it you have the vNB and vHTT that high? Try +0.05V on HT and stock on NB, trust me, you will most likely still have it stable. ;)
Oldguy932: Run that for a day or two and you'll soon know if it's fully stable or otherwise. You can say it's stability test stable though. Then go for more, would be good. Then go for some high MHz to bench and finally move back on air afterwards to see what the highest stable you can get it.
Pics, I'm mainly interested in just the mounts and head. :)
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Just some interesting news;
780G chipset reviewed: http://translate.google.com/translat...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2299/20080pc2.jpg
I've been waiting for this since eons. Nv is having major trouble and I've lost hope waiting for their chipsets. I'm putting my BE X2 into one of the above chipset boards... ;)
Phenom 9600 BE review: http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/...black_edition/
AMD Triple Core is mainly for the commercial sector: http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13924_1-9871416-64.html
Puma+Griffin problems? No says AMD: http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/s...leID=206503146
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/833...apsmallgk0.jpg
That's the latest (late Jan. roadmap) showing Opteron (Barcelona) B3 production in Q1 '08, what looks like early March to me, with April ~10th as the 9700/9900 OEM shipments, early May as the B3 Phenom availability and full month of May as the major shipment beginning for B3 step Opteron.
AMD has analyst :up: http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=205901246
Tweaking Phenom 9600 BE: http://techreport.com/articles.x/14093Quote:
Advanced Micro Devices Inc. is the new Golden Boy. It lost a ton of money on special charges in the fourth quarter, does not expect to be profitable until the second half of this year and continues to act coy about disclosing details of its new asset-smart manufacturing strategy.
If these were negatives points, they didn't matter during AMD's conference call on Thursday (Jan. 17) as analysts tripped over themselves to commend the microprocessor supplier for "a great quarter; an almost breakeven quarter; on moving towards profit and profitability and; on the margin progress."
Investors who had only a few days ago driven down AMD's stock price to a new 52-week low also gave the company a big thumbs up, pushing up its shares in after-hours trading after the release of its results.
The lovefest continued Friday. By midday, AMD shares had risen more than 12 percent and were holding on to the gains even as the main market indices began to wobble as investors digested unrelated but unpleasant macroeconomic news.
AMD archrival Intel Corp. did not receive such an overwhelmingly positive response when it on Tuesday (Jan. 16) announced solid fourth quarter results that showed strong revenue and profit gains.
What did AMD do right this time? First, the company showed the first signs it can move beyond talking about its hopes to become profitable to actually achieving a milestone that has eluded it for more than five quarters.
Beyond that, however, the company managed to erase the impression that it could become seriously cash-strapped, running into a liquidity crisis that may hobble operations and prevent it from competing effectively in the market, according to analysts.
AMD's cash position improved, for instance, to $1.89 billion by the end of the fourth quarter, from $1.53 billion in the September 2007 quarter.
I'm going to get independent verfication of this because I don't think it's entirely true (as to the percieved meaning) just like what this site posted before about the TLB patch was not true. I'm working with chipset/processor/motherboard vendors to know exactly what they're saying. FWIW if AMD had said the above to MSI then you couldn't have seen any TLB Patch Disabled option at all in any BIOS (like at the start, unlike how they've now implemented them and are working hard to implement it better). Who do you think is helping us get better BIOSes and working systems as I'm requesting if not AMD? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TR
This is inline with what I know, however, the buttons are not just for the patch, they boost performance on a system with no patch and patch is not completely disabled with those buttons yet. MB BIOS engineers are still working on that issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by TR
We know Q6600 is clock for clock better than a Phenom overall. There are real-life area's where Phenom will shine though, not just synthetic memory bandwidth numbers which mean nothing, but in the arena of RAM+MCH Vs RAM+IMC performance, i.e:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3822/winc2qow9.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9127/wink10vh1.jpg
At 3300MHz on C2Q, it will be behind much esp. if I clock the RAM sub-1066. Another usefulness is x264 encoding/decoding and encryption/decryption you guys can make use of. These are real-life useful scenarios as I'm sure all but the minority few one-sided quacks will realize.
(by quacks I mean, literal blind sheepism and failing to see anything but perfection/exaggeration/embellishment for your pontiff 'amor' while attacking/cursing/FUD spreading/lying/slandering on the opposition of your 'amor' = senseless being. Other than that, if you leave others alone peacefully without harming them for nothing or the constant blind trite + trolling, there is no problem in you liking Nike a little more than Adidas, or McD's over DFC -> to each his own. Personally I don't have personal feelings for companies to be frank apart from by my/friends experience/knowledge on them)
A personal note: I strongly recommend you to test the BIOSes, Phenom, software and AOD very much, everything as much and thoroughly as possible and don't sit back. Have any suggestions? Make them. All products depend on user feedback and so does software, as none can improve a tid bit without it. I am only a tester, you are the buyers who will be stuck with these systems. If you want things to improve in stability, performance and options, then you will need to do some testing with effort and provide me the feedback. I can then forward it on to the proper channels who can do something about it as they have done so far (thank you) rather than sit back apathetic and we moan and hue loud cries with laments in angst. So far we have made much progress to be honest. Take advantage of this interactive benefit you have, as while I can liaise with AMD+MSI, you won't find such an easy gift and support with Intel+MB MFG whatsoever apart from the slight bit when Intel choose Charles+Francois to hype a poor expensive offering and break records. We bought Penryns, some of us at XS and at my work place contacted Intel because of their bad QC in their Penryn for temperature problems and they didn't even respond, which is rude and ignorant. Even worse my P35 Gigabyte board still does not support Penryn, no POST, but worse, no support or reply. CPU/MB MFG's don't provide such excellent support and communication very often. Use the options you have wisely and beneficially and be grateful to those who deserve it (not me). :)
Please test EVEREST/AOD and provide me the feedback. I'll pass it on where something will and can be done about it and where it needs to be if you want improvements and to have an excellent end product. You paid for the items (I didn't :p:).
Use AOD stability tester, it is very good if you can get it working. It is designed by a processor MFG DAMMIT. Who else knows what a stable processor is if not them? But only use it on the P0H BIOS with MSI RD790 (others give problems), it should give you no problems and work fine (let me know if it does).
Thank you.
Why though? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Hi KTE
The reason of high voltages, have to do with the reboot problems reported, this board boots fine with less voltages but if after program install it ask for reboot, the board refuse to boot and after a reset shows overclocking failure.
After playing around with all settings the ones I used was the best ones for that problem, anyway that was the last run on that board, I send it back to shop bcz I had order the Wifi/Ap version and they had send the normal Deluxe, I had to wait till now bcz shop closed for holidays, got my cash back and I will order another board, ATM and after the ASUS experience (OC/BIOS/LAYOUT) don't know witch one to order, but must be with eeprom removable since I like to mess with bios, and with the MSI I can't (I have an Serial cable 2 SPI chip but no program I know recognize it). That was the reason I bough ASUS, to be able to recover from a bad flash/bios.
About ASUS layout you can't use 4 dual slot graphic cards, like the 2 I got (with MSI it's possible) SATA ports are well placed and horizontal connection is cool, if MSI had those it will be "almost" :p: perfect.
On the MSI side I can't use the Power/Reset buttons bcz 2nd card are on top.
ATM I'm using the MSI still have 1.31 bios, just plugged CPU and all the staff, 2800Mhz without enter in CMOS setup, need to check the settings I left couple weeks ago :)
BTW you deserve that free parts you are receiving, you are doing an real good job, and I'm sure like me others are buying RD790 systems relying on your expertise, including tictac, polygon and others.
I'm grateful to all of you guys, keep it up :clap:
KTE you had stated that the random freezes where NB related? I think it's more cpu related is the reason I ask.
Did not work. Blanker lottery style said. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...73#post2767073
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...54#post2766954
Yeah, it is nice that I finally got closer to my air clocks, but I just can't figure out what's going on now to keep me from getting any higher stable. I have a feeling it might be something around the cpu that doesn't like the cold rather than the cpu, I felt to the side of the mount towards the ram and the board was cold, but I dunno if that means anything. My last tricks to try are going to be lowering the nb and ht-link, but I don't think it'll work, although increasing the ht voltage did help stability a slight bit at 259, got me to the 3rd iteration of 8k instead of the second. I am going to put the 9500 under before I switch back to air, its just that I use the XP-90c with the vantec tornado, and 50 dba is not pleasant sounding, which is why I bought the vapo in the first place. Cold temps, future proof, and can be made relatively quiet. I wish I had more voltage readings, would make everything a heck of alot easier tweaking-wise.
I will tell you what the error I'm experiencing is, if anyone can help then please do so because I've tried near enough everything and I can't fix it. I have 6 drives here and all are full of OSes with none I can delete so I'm stuck. Phenom system is still no boot (OS). :(
I can use the system though as it's not in error apart from the drive, I'm running a LiveCD of Ubuntu with the Phneom system right now and was running UBDC4Win with it earlier.
It's 0x7b 0xC000034 STOP error at bootup exactly when the Windows XP loading screen should appear.
The error decodes to "Inaccessible Boot Drive" i.e.
Cause: I did nothing but a reboot after using AOD and since then it is giving me this error. It is something drive related. I installed no software/drivers anew since over 2 tweaks apart from Catalyst 8.32 2 days ago so it can't be driver related either.Quote:
The Stop 0x7B message indicates that Windows XP has lost access to the system partition or boot volume during the startup process. Installing incorrect device drivers when installing or upgrading storage adapter hardware typically causes stop 0x7B errors. Stop 0x7B errors could also indicate possible virus infection.
The second parameter is very important because it can indicate whether the 0x7B Stop message was caused by file system issues or problems with storage hardware and drivers. Values of 0xC000034 or 0xC000000E typically indicate:
• Disks or storage controllers that are failing, defective, or improperly configured.
• Storage-related
Steps taken to resolve:
-It is not a registry error since I have replaced the registry with a known working one and a new one and I still get the same error far before the registry is called.
-I have removed all extra drivers and it still will not boot.
-It's not the SATA port nor the PSU connector.
-The Boot.ini is perfect as before.
-Pagefile is good as before.
-Drive has zero fragmentation or checkdisk errors and works with other systems fully (SMART status is very healthy).
-It may be the MBR, but that should signal a different error. I'm reluctant to try this as I may get a no boot situation totally.
-I have tried a XP Repair, no luck.
:( :confused:
Hmm I can boot and run some benches at 2832MHz and have only given it upto 1.445V yet and it was unstable. Maybe I should increase the volts too?Quote:
Originally Posted by aGeoM
Yeah for Gfx MSI board is better but the SATA ports layout, I have a different taste due to my setup. ;)Quote:
About ASUS layout you can't use 4 dual slot graphic cards, like the 2 I got (with MSI it's possible) SATA ports are well placed and horizontal connection is cool, if MSI had those it will be "almost" :p: perfect.
Which cards?Quote:
On the MSI side I can't use the Power/Reset buttons bcz 2nd card are on top.
The 2nd card need to be a single slot less than 23cm to be able to use both buttons. Anything bigger than say the X1900XTX in CF will make the two buttons out of reach.
I wish... :)Quote:
BTW you deserve that free parts you are receiving, you are doing an real good job, and I'm sure like me others are buying RD790 systems relying on your expertise, including tictac, polygon and others.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...23#post2772823
Thank you for the words though.
Not necessarily. Only in specific cases where your NB has low volts for the speeds and you had given enough CPU voltage. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonspd
Oh, I see, thanks. Pretty bad that. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
Use a DMM and measure the voltages around your board, load/idle. The ASUS I tried had a large vdroop and vdrop, the MSI doesn't though. Feed it some PLL voltage too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldguy932
Fixed! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Great job on getting it fixed KTE. And sadly, the only pll that gets a voltage is the nb pcie pll, nothing else.
Congrats, How?Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Yep, that's the one I'm talking about. Because the SB is where the PLL lies and that's why usually increasing PCIe a little bit (108MHz) tends to help high end stability and oc. If you try the Autoclock feature or Novice AOD Performance Mode, you'll see it tries to clock the PCIe higher up. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldguy932
Oh man, don't ask! What a pain. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
So many XP repairs, software reinstalls/installs (manual), bootups, swapping processors and other hardware, hours in recovery console, system restores, manual registry editing (around 20 hours stuck in there), copying/pasting/deleting over, checking, testing, manual driver deleting, driver/hard disk MBR verifying, installing/reinstalling SP2/SP3 manually (registry editing, copying files, making batch and automated files), everything done and then, I find out it's nothing that can be resolved. No Safe Mode was allowed, remember.
So the only thing I had forgotten was testing the first bootup registry and driver loading. Turned out my user profile had become corrupt by a random and rare Windows bug there since XP was first released which then disables the user Admin access to load the registry hives and boot-up, specifically the user profile. It creates random named empty profiles and starts using them in place of the original (original still intact although renamed to random chars). So I had no choice but to repair XP and then mod everything (registry/drivers/files/file paths - must have been past 1200 files alone easily) from another 2 systems to cross-check and restore my documents, software and user profiles back. Had hordes of uncountable problems, can still not install Catalyst 8.2 but have deleted everything excessive now and it's stripped down to the bare minimum goods which are fully working and easier to debug. It is now fully working even better than before with newly retrofitted registries and C:\ directory files. :D
What a nightmare. That's the worst issue I've ever faced on XP, toughest one ever to debug and fix. Very relieved, still have all software/docs there working. It really did catch me at the worst time, I was about to delete it all in a day.
Hmm have an HP laptop here whom does the same as your pc did afer reboots during automated software installation. No safemode was possible here also.Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
I can fix this issue here simply by choosing use last known working profile in the boot menu.
You must have had serious causes to recover this setup. Do you have a link or error nuber at hand to that xp error from the ms support site?
Achim has kindly updated his 1st post to now show both the method which does work on all boards and it's derivative batch file method (easier+quicker): http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=171105
This works for all AM2+ systems that I've seen so far.
MSI MB/BIOS: Most of you know near enough all of the latest BIOSes have the patch either enabled without option to disable or you're provided an option to choose what you would like yourself. However, as we have noticed the patch is still enabled with either choices. Using the following setup (BIOS P0F):
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1186/11mx7.png
When you choose TLB Fix = Disabled in the BIOS and you boot-up setting AOD button = Red, you still get low performance, as below:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/526/1stmq8.png
Why you get that is because the patch is disabled only on the first core. Hence, to completely disable it, you follow the above procedure outlined in the link. MSR registers needed to edit for the MSI RD790 are these two:
For each core:
Read MSR ->
Write MSR values ->
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8287/6thcb4.png - http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2209/10thys5.png
And now you get->
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4558/12thha7.png
Near +170% increase. The above routine works perfectly to disable the patch. :)
BTW, that's AMD Power Monitor there, the latest version I linked earlier. Works much better. ;)
Yup, first thing I tried was LKGC but it failed as well as everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by justapost
MS Support site doesn't have any information on this. I used to be a software dev and MS beta tester a few years ago so I have relations there and talking to a few friends who are MVP's they told me something they didn't know had happened and so only way is to reinstall because it would be too much hassle. But I digress. ;)
Reasons were, I had everything I needed migrated and installed on it temporarily and much work that I have to migrate over to another drive was installed on here for my continuous editing (PhD/science work). Don't have the CD's for those software either so I had to rescue it all. Took me 3 days non-stop.
It helps in my case, and also that random freezes, but with MSI is a different story, vCPU=1.440; vNB=1.200; vHTT=1250.Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Sapphire HD3870.Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
Lucky man, I wish to have an uncle like yours;) , soon some MFG will realize that giving away some parts to the right guys will be more profitable than expending thousands $ in doubtful marketing campaigns.Quote:
Originally Posted by KTE
My Phenom 9500, sitting on my laptop covered in stickers.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1...0101xk6.th.jpg
In the socket before anything is put on, the rods are for keeping the clamshell in place.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8...0102ae8.th.jpg
The insulation for the top of the board is on and the cpu is all lathered up.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9...0103no0.th.jpg
The bottom of the clamshell, it doesn't look smooth, but it is, trust me.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4...0104uo9.th.jpg
Everything put together, that orange fan is for keeping my chipset on the cool side.
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2...0105vs3.th.jpg
Sadly, this one is cold bugged. I forgot to turn on the power supply, so I turned on the vapo and it got down to -58C evap, and it wouldn't start. Thankfully it does at -21C cause thats where the startup temp happens to be. Looks like I'm going to be using the heater this time around.
KTE i know im late, but i had the same problem, it wouldnt install windows right nomater what i did, after a few full reformats i finally have XP pro working, but im scared to work on getting vista back, ill probably by a new harddrive just to get that working cause i lost everything thanks to this motherboard, and i know its the mobo cause we had the same exact problem and thats the only thing we have in common.
Can you disable a single core with a pin mod or any other method that would make the system only work off 3 cores even at start up?
So disabling the tbl fix would work on any bios that has the fix built into it?
MSI should be ble to write a bios to down core, my asus board has that option. Oh and I think my cb is in the -30C to -40C range, I'll have to check on it later.
Edit: I'm priming the 9500 at 254x11. Do you guys want an 8 hours screen or wait till I get higher?
aGeoM: I'll try higher volts. AOD is working quite flawlessly with P0F and P0H, so far.
Sapphire HD3870, yeah two in CF would block access to the buttons unfortunately. :(
Oldguy932: Thanks for the pics, pity about the CB. Don't you think that base needs some lapping and cleaning? :p:
Keep going as high as you can on that stability testing.
Manicdan: Fingers crossed, I don't want it to happen now, again. About to reboot in a few... :yepp:
jonspd: Doubt it yet, although they can add this BIOS option. Only way I've tried to disable a core is by using the Boot.ini (easily can disable any amounts of core before bootup).
Yep, disabling fix will work on all the MSI BIOSes, because the fix is the same one.
I discovered a bug earlier, it's an application bug affecting all monitoring applications but AOD when AOD is used to oc - it's temporary for CPU-Z, fixes itself after a while but most of the time it won't load the driver hence it reads wrong values. Check this out and the values it gives:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8083/appbugskg7.png
Bug remains in all other software but in CPU-Z/AOD after 15 minutes:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6686/bug2um0.png
I believe this happens due the reason I've mentioned earlier-> opening more than on monitoring tool at the same time. I knew that was still 2550 because I had ran wPrime 32M and compared with 2530 and 2486 pics. ;)
msconfig/boot.ini/advanced options numproc?
I wish we could get a bios moder around here I think we ran of tic tac toe :D
Its giving me a steady -7C load from small fft, evap is at -39C average. I think I'm going to bump it up to 256 now. vCore is at 1.3, vCore-NB is 1.3, vNB is 1.4, ram at 2.1, and everything else is auto. If you really think lapping the head of it would do me any good I could do it, I never have bothered before though.
I lap anything copper that touches my cores :D
Where you have vCore-NB is 1.3, vNB is 1.4 i don't understand which is which vcore-nb = nb and vcore? vnb = nb vid?
vCore-NB is CPU-NB voltage, and vNB is just northbridge voltage. Oh and it looks like my 9500 maxed out at 2.8ghz on 1.3v. I wonder how much better it can do with more voltage.