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10-02-2009, 01:27 PM
Alien Grey

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

yeah i want to see that also as he stated the new standard for OC stability

500 linx passes

Yeah right. 500 passes of LinX and then still fail Prime Blend after some time. :yepp:
10-02-2009, 01:30 PM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by A-Grey

Yeah right. 500 passes of LinX and then still fail Prime Blend after some time. :yepp:

yeah mate only test for me valid is blend stress over hours is the best :up:
i was jk about that
10-02-2009, 02:29 PM
zoson

There you two go putting words into my mouth again. At no time did I say you could pass LinX and then have Prime fail.
I've maintained this whole time that LinX is by far a better stress tester than Prime. Prime can pass 24 hours while LinX still fails after a short period of time. I've seen this behavior in the last four CPU's I've owned. I'm quite convinced that people like you bash it because you can't pass it stable. Complete denial of the fact that your OC is not stable.

Now you guys are fronting like a bunch of kids. Clearly I use 200 LinX loops to test my stability, as seen in my screenshots. I asked sergio to prove his OC with 500 loops max mem. If you guys can't see that he's deflecting instead of proving, well I feel sorry for you. If he were truely stable, this conversation would have been over long ago when he posted his screenshot.

I thought XS would be a haven for people who were serious about overclocking, but instead I find another forum full of fanboys defending their false champions.
10-02-2009, 03:00 PM
OC Nub

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoson

There you two go putting words into my mouth again. At no time did I say you could pass LinX and then have Prime fail.
I've maintained this whole time that LinX is by far a better stress tester than Prime. Prime can pass 24 hours while LinX still fails after a short period of time. I've seen this behavior in the last four CPU's I've owned. I'm quite convinced that people like you bash it because you can't pass it stable. Complete denial of the fact that your OC is not stable.

Now you guys are fronting like a bunch of kids. Clearly I use 200 LinX loops to test my stability, as seen in my screenshots. I asked sergio to prove his OC with 500 loops max mem. If you guys can't see that he's deflecting instead of proving, well I feel sorry for you. If he were truely stable, this conversation would have been over long ago when he posted his screenshot.

I thought XS would be a haven for people who were serious about overclocking, but instead I find another forum full of fanboys defending their false champions.

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.
10-02-2009, 03:08 PM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.

+10 for that
10-02-2009, 03:10 PM
deachus

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.

Well said, my thoughts exactly:up:
10-02-2009, 03:15 PM
The Viper

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

You have very little experience with a c2q it seems. Using LinX, my cpu require less vcore to pass than when testing with blend. This was not the case with my e8400. If you go back a few pages and read you will see where several other had the same findings.

You started insulting people in your first post in this thread by stating that we use spi as a means of stability testing. You have shown no respect to the guys who have spent months oc'ing these cpu's and posting results in this thread, in return you will receive the same. You then dictate to us the definition of stability and imply that anything that differs from this is not acceptable to you (like we care). All anyone was trying to say in the beginning before you went off the deep end was that your board, however nice it may be was not designed for overclocking a c2q, that you would have better results on a more appropriate board for the job.

That sums it up perfectly OC Nub
10-02-2009, 03:16 PM
zsamz_

first off that that 790i gonna need much more voltage than any other board
to even get that 790i to 500fsb is verry hard
but the board wont even last long before it :explode2:
more than an hour of prime is way too much imho just a waste
stop :brick: sozon
when your 790i dies we know u be on a ud3X:rofl:
10-02-2009, 03:17 PM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoson

There you two go putting words into my mouth again. At no time did I say you could pass LinX and then have Prime fail.
I've maintained this whole time that LinX is by far a better stress tester than Prime. Prime can pass 24 hours while LinX still fails after a short period of time. I've seen this behavior in the last four CPU's I've owned. I'm quite convinced that people like you bash it because you can't pass it stable. Complete denial of the fact that your OC is not stable.

Now you guys are fronting like a bunch of kids. Clearly I use 200 LinX loops to test my stability, as seen in my screenshots. I asked sergio to prove his OC with 500 loops max mem. If you guys can't see that he's deflecting instead of proving, well I feel sorry for you. If he were truely stable, this conversation would have been over long ago when he posted his screenshot.

I thought XS would be a haven for people who were serious about overclocking, but instead I find another forum full of fanboys defending their false champions.

Right there, is where you're wrong - prime IS NOT small ftts alone. The real deal is large ftts (especially when you're running high clocks with high fsbs and ram around 1200mhz). The reverse is true - you need more juice to pass blend and large ftts than linx. Yeah that 200 passes with your DUAL CORE is nice, BUT THIS IS A QUAD THREAD; and that's why you came here for help because that same board that took your dual to 550 can hardly take a quad to 460 fsb stable! You need to listen and listen well; to play with the big boys in this thread, you'll need to discard that NV mobo and get a p45 board - hell, get a UD3x board and you can come back and thank us later.

To summarize, many here can run linx all year and fail prime blend/large ffts in five minutes, unless they add more voltage; and that's the truth.

Edit: Nub beat me to it.
10-04-2009, 05:17 AM
CryptiK

Got time for a little more testing. I lapped my TRUE Cu as it was not giving good contact, which reduced max temp - this allowed me to lower vcore. Also got an hour blend done, no time for anymore until later in the week perhaps.

Linx max mem / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.32 vNB

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...6vtt132vnb.jpg

1 hour blend / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.336 vNB

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...t134vnbpl8.jpg
10-04-2009, 05:37 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Got time for a little more testing. I lapped my TRUE Cu as it was not giving good contact, which reduced max temp - this allowed me to lower vcore. Also got an hour blend done, no time for anymore until later in the week perhaps.

Linx max mem / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.32 vNB

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...6vtt132vnb.jpg

1 hour blend / 4203 MHz / 1.296 vcc / 1.26 Vtt / PL8 / 1.336 vNB

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...t134vnbpl8.jpg

Congrats mate :up: well done
10-04-2009, 10:00 AM
-n7-

Nice work CryptiK.

I gave up on 4.2 GHz...i believe i could do it, but going from 4 to 4.2 GHz seems to require a huge jump in CPU & motherboard voltages, so i settled @ 4.1 GHz.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/722...vllconp.th.jpg
10-04-2009, 01:23 PM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by -n7-

Nice work CryptiK.

I gave up on 4.2 GHz...i believe i could do it, but going from 4 to 4.2 GHz seems to require a huge jump in CPU & motherboard voltages, so i settled @ 4.1 GHz.

you got my same batch n7 isnt yours L828A446 vid 1,1875 ?
10-04-2009, 09:02 PM
Davit

Lowered the vcore a tad and doing an overnight prime run... again... My vid is a lil high 1.25. though I have seen you fellas push the 1.25 past 4.5ghz so that is what I am aiming for. Temps seem pretty decent on water. Any ideas on what can get me 4.5? I did a 4.5 run just before this BSOD after 4hrs, upping vcore 1 core dumped after 2hrs... Have been fighting with this thing for 3-4days now to get 4.5ghz. It will do anything up to 4.3 without even sweating... run to 4.4 kicked my arse, and 4.5Ghz has been a pain as well.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...1979/44Run.jpg
10-04-2009, 09:06 PM
thezfunk

I see you have quite a temp variation between cores as well. I have two cores that have a 5-7 degrees difference from the other two. I am going to try reapplying the thermal paste and see if that helps. It was my first try with this new paste and I might have done it wrong. I lapped my QX6700 and I am not afraid of doing it to this one if it gets me lower temps.

(lapping my QX6700 saved 10 degrees C!)
10-04-2009, 09:53 PM
Davit

When I took off my heatkiller thermal paste was not spread even...
You read my mind, I ordered a lapping kit from frozen cpu yesterday... I think it should help some, cuz no matter what I do and how I apply the paste it does not look right.
Never did actually, even with my Sunbeam CCF.. go figure. Oh and I am using the 24-carat diamond compound. Supposed to knock off couple of degrees of the AS5 scores, but who knows...
10-05-2009, 12:46 AM
Davit

7hrs and change.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...1979/447hr.jpg

I'll try lowering vcore some more to see what happens I guess.
10-05-2009, 06:16 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

Congrats mate :up: well done

Quote:

Originally Posted by -n7-

Nice work CryptiK.

I gave up on 4.2 GHz...i believe i could do it, but going from 4 to 4.2 GHz seems to require a huge jump in CPU & motherboard voltages, so i settled @ 4.1 GHz.

Thanks, I'm reasonably confident this cpu will go higher, but I won't be using LinX to test stability due to temps. I would probably need a UD3P to do so however.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davit

When I took off my heatkiller thermal paste was not spread even...
You read my mind, I ordered a lapping kit from frozen cpu yesterday... I think it should help some, cuz no matter what I do and how I apply the paste it does not look right.
Never did actually, even with my Sunbeam CCF.. go figure. Oh and I am using the 24-carat diamond compound. Supposed to knock off couple of degrees of the AS5 scores, but who knows...

You can see in the following 2 pics the contact was originally quite bad. I did a quick lap job on the True (3rd pic) and it has much improved contact and temps. I'll finish it off when I get some finer grade sandpaper.

Congrats on the 4.4 stable, very nice work.

CPU bad contact

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...badcontact.jpg

True Cu bad contact

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...badcontact.jpg

Lapped True Cu

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...ueculapped.jpg
10-05-2009, 07:11 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Thanks, I'm reasonably confident this cpu will go higher, but I won't be using LinX to test stability due to temps. I would probably need a UD3P to do so however.

no doubt about it Cryptik you will go up and up on a UD3P :up:

now you lapped you are ready to te giga world ;)
10-05-2009, 07:42 AM
Morgoth

Untweaked pi run on mine, I will remount and fiddle with voltage more, see what happens
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...h2/10640pi.jpg
10-05-2009, 11:04 AM
Davit

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

You can see in the following 2 pics the contact was originally quite bad. I did a quick lap job on the True (3rd pic) and it has much improved contact and temps. I'll finish it off when I get some finer grade sandpaper.

Congrats on the 4.4 stable, very nice work.

CPU bad contact

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...badcontact.jpg

True Cu bad contact

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...badcontact.jpg

WOW. That is exactly how mine looks... I tried the drop in the middle method, spread even method nothing worked... Nice to know that I am not entirely crazy. I will lap my 9650 asap, see what I can get out of it. Temp drop would be a pleasant bonus, I would even settle for temp stability between the cores lol. I have read mixed reviews about lapping the heat-killer, so I will let it be... Funny don't want to ruin a $90 waterblock, instead I am taking a sandpaper to $349(what I paid for it) CPU....

Thank you for the kind words as well! :up:
There will be more shenanigans to come.
10-05-2009, 11:28 AM
OC Nub

Davit, I have the DQ6 also. My best results were with the following ref's. CPU ref 1-.775, CPU ref 2 default.800, MCH ref-.795. Try setting default vtt 1.20v and then set these ref's, then bump vtt back up to where you need it leaving ref's alone. These same ref settings worked on 3 45nm quads. Going up a few notches on your vtt to around 1.36v combined with better reference voltage settings may help you lower vcore some.
10-05-2009, 11:28 AM
deachus

I was told that the base of the True's are concave so I lapped mine and got much better temps. I have recently retired my Q9650 to my Media Server and have the True running on a 920 D0. Temps are great. Try lapping your True. By the impressions on your CPU and True in looks like it is concave, as it's making contact in the center and not on the sides.
10-05-2009, 12:26 PM
Davit

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

Davit, I have the DQ6 also. My best results were with the following ref's. CPU ref 1-.775, CPU ref 2 default.800, MCH ref-.795. Try setting default vtt 1.20v and then set these ref's, then bump vtt back up to where you need it leaving ref's alone. These same ref settings worked on 3 45nm quads. Going up a few notches on your vtt to around 1.36v combined with better reference voltage settings may help you lower vcore some.

Oh that is fantastic! I was looking for some input on that, thanks man!:up:
I saw you hit 4.4 on DQ6, that what actually inspired me lol. Did you ever hit 4.5 on that board???

Does this look about right?

CPU Vcore….………......1.250v*........: 1,50(lets say, man can dream lol)
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1,360v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1,560v
CPU Reference.………….0.760V*.......: 0.775
CPU Reference2………..0.800V*.......: 0.800
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1,300v
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; 0.795
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto
10-05-2009, 12:34 PM
OC Nub

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davit

Oh that is fantastic! I was looking for some input on that, thanks man!:up:
I saw you hit 4.4 on DQ6, that what actually inspired me lol. Did you ever hit 4.5 on that board???

Does this look about right?

CPU Vcore….………......1.250v*........: 1,50(lets say, man can dream lol)
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1,360v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1,560v
CPU Reference.………….0.760V*.......: 0.775
CPU Reference2………..0.800V*.......: 0.800
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1,300v
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; 0.795
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto

I was able to hit 4500mhz stable on the q9650, 4400mhz stable on the q9550.
I think you will need more MCH voltage for 4500mhz all depending on the strap you use. I needed 1.4vmch for 1:1-200d and 1.46vmch for 5:6 240b 1200mhz. You may be able to lower vcore more than you think with these ref's but it also depends on the chip. 4400mhz with default ref's is pretty good. Remember that the ref's are linked to vtt so when you set these 3 ref's make sure you default your vtt to 1.20v first, then raise vtt back up.
10-05-2009, 12:40 PM
OC Nub

Also what are your advanced clock control settings? Napalm had suggested using 1000/1000/0/0 so i tried it and that worked best for me also.
10-05-2009, 01:04 PM
Davit

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

Also what are your advanced clock control settings? Napalm had suggested using 1000/1000/0/0 so i tried it and that worked best for me also.

Yeah that is what I read as well, thank you for the tip.

Here's the setting I have now:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ..................: [AUTO]
CPU Clock Ratio ..............................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.........................:
CPU Frequency ...............................: 4.40Ghz(489 x 9)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control...................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: [489]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: [100]
CIA2 - disabled

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 1000mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 1000mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance....................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: [AUTO]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: [2.00D]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................: [978]
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time..........................:5
tRCD ...........................................:5
tRP'.............................................: 5
tRAS............................................:1 5

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD............................................:A uto
tWTR.......................................... :Auto
tWR.............................................:A uto
tRFC............................................:A uto

tRTP...........................................:Au to
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….......1.250v*........: 1,5250v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1,300v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1,560v
CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1,300v
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2,220V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Disabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]
10-05-2009, 01:09 PM
Davit

Sorry almost forgot, and pardon the stupid question, to set the default vtt to 1.20 do I just set it to that, save and boot and then reset it to what I need to, or do I just load optimized defaults, save and then adjust what I need?
10-05-2009, 01:09 PM
OC Nub

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davit

Yeah that is what I read as well, thank you for the tip.

Here's the setting I have now:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ..................: [AUTO]
CPU Clock Ratio ..............................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.........................:
CPU Frequency ...............................: 4.40Ghz(489 x 9)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control...................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: [489]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: [100]
CIA2 - disabled

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 1000mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 1000mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance....................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch.................: [AUTO]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: [2.00D]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................: [978]
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time..........................:5
tRCD ...........................................:5
tRP'.............................................: 5
tRAS............................................:1 5

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD............................................:A uto
tWTR.......................................... :Auto
tWR.............................................:A uto
tRFC............................................:A uto

tRTP...........................................:Au to
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….......1.250v*........: 1,5250v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1,300v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1,560v
CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1,300v
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2,220V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Disabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]

For 8gb of ram you may need a lot more mch. I had only tested using 4gb kit. With 4gb you should be able to lower Static tRead Value to 9, may work on 8gb as well but am not positive.
10-05-2009, 01:14 PM
KRich

I got a lot of inspiration from all you amazing chaps here and am so excited to tell you that I got my dream Q9650 :clap:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/325...4400l847cq.png

I have improved watercooling in the works as I just know that this chip has plenty more to give and which I am ready to receive :cool:

4.4GHz at 1.328v actual in CPU-Z feels so good and just rocks - I am so happy :D

Thanks so much to you all for all your continued contributions here and I wanted to give this back :up:
10-05-2009, 01:34 PM
In-Fluence

Nice! I hope that the one on it's way to me is of similar quality, can see why you're happy! Wish me luck :)
10-05-2009, 01:36 PM
KRich

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Nice! I hope that the one on it's way to me is of similar quality, can see why you're happy! Wish me luck :)

All the best :up:
10-05-2009, 01:48 PM
OC Nub

KRich, Awesome job!!! :up:
Vcore is great for 4400mhz. Congrats.
10-05-2009, 01:50 PM
KRich

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

KRich, Awesome job!!! :up:
Vcore is great for 4400mhz. Congrats.

Cheers buddy :up:
10-05-2009, 01:50 PM
Davit

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

For 8gb of ram you may need a lot more mch. I had only tested using 4gb kit. With 4gb you should be able to lower Static tRead Value to 9, may work on 8gb as well but am not positive.

Yeah I always use only 4GB when OC'ing. Then add 8 and retest.
I tired Static 8 and 9, I get BSOD or some other wierd things, like reboot loop. 10 always seem to work well... I am not sure why..

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRich

I got a lot of inspiration from all you amazing chaps here and am so excited to tell you that I got my dream Q9650 :clap:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/325...4400l847cq.png

I have improved watercooling in the works as I just know that this chip has plenty more to give and which I am ready to receive :cool:

4.4GHz at 1.328v actual in CPU-Z feels so good and just rocks - I am so happy :D

Thanks so much to you all for all your continued contributions here and I wanted to give this back :up:

Hey man that is a great result! I can't believe how low the vcore is! What is the vid on that cpu?

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Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Nice! I hope that the one on it's way to me is of similar quality, can see why you're happy! Wish me luck :)

Good luck brother!
10-05-2009, 01:55 PM
KRich

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davit

Hey man that is a great result! I can't believe how low the vcore is! What is the vid on that cpu?

Cheers buddy :up: It is a 1.1375 VID chip - I was jumping around everywhere when I powered the system up the first time and saw the VID in the BIOS :rofl:

You've got a great chip too - Wish you all the best with 4.5GHz and beyond :up:
10-05-2009, 03:02 PM
Davit

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRich

Cheers buddy :up: It is a 1.1375 VID chip - I was jumping around everywhere when I powered the system up the first time and saw the VID in the BIOS :rofl:

You've got a great chip too - Wish you all the best with 4.5GHz and beyond :up:

Thanks man!
That is a nice low vid! Damn I bet you still have plenty of room left!
I am going to try some benching at 4.5 tonight, big thanks to OC Nub! Some great tips, so hopefully I can post tomorrow morning with a good news!
10-05-2009, 03:31 PM
OC Nub

Davit, just lower vtt to 1.20v in bios, set ref's, then raise vtt back up. no need to load defaults.
10-05-2009, 06:14 PM
Davit

OK. Thanks brother! Doing it right now.
Was busy getting sli to work on p-45... what do you know..
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...9/DSC03491.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...tmapImage3.jpg
10-05-2009, 06:25 PM
thezfunk

Is everyone here using the DQ6? I have a 780i. Now that fall is coming on and cooler temps are here I am going to make some more runs at the OC.
10-05-2009, 06:30 PM
Morgoth

Using asus p5q delux, I did have a Dq6, I found it to be more flakey than the asus
10-05-2009, 08:49 PM
Hoss331

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Originally Posted by thezfunk

Is everyone here using the DQ6? I have a 780i.

Most people are using a UD3. :up:
10-05-2009, 09:09 PM
-n7-

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Originally Posted by andressergio

you got my same batch n7 isnt yours L828A446 vid 1,1875 ?

Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: how'd you know my batch?! :eek:

My VID is actually 1.15v though, unless Core Temp/Real Temp are wrong.
http://ense7en.com/pics/q9650/vid1.15.JPG
10-06-2009, 01:03 AM
CryptiK

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Originally Posted by Davit

WOW. That is exactly how mine looks... I tried the drop in the middle method, spread even method nothing worked... Nice to know that I am not entirely crazy. I will lap my 9650 asap, see what I can get out of it. Temp drop would be a pleasant bonus, I would even settle for temp stability between the cores lol. I have read mixed reviews about lapping the heat-killer, so I will let it be... Funny don't want to ruin a $90 waterblock, instead I am taking a sandpaper to $349(what I paid for it) CPU....

Thank you for the kind words as well! :up:
There will be more shenanigans to come.

In my experience, even though not perfect, CPU's are a lot flatter than heatsinks/blocks. Also as you said, a block is a lot cheaper than a Q9650. If I were you, I'd try lapping the block at least a small amount, before lapping the cpu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRich

I got a lot of inspiration from all you amazing chaps here and am so excited to tell you that I got my dream Q9650 :clap:

http://img97.imageshack.us/i/q96504400l847cq.png
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/325...4400l847cq.png

I have improved watercooling in the works as I just know that this chip has plenty more to give and which I am ready to receive :cool:

4.4GHz at 1.328v actual in CPU-Z feels so good and just rocks - I am so happy :D

Thanks so much to you all for all your continued contributions here and I wanted to give this back :up:

Congrats on the great cpu, very nice overclock.
10-06-2009, 01:12 AM
quattro_

the best i can do with Asus RE is 480x9 :
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...Untitled-8.jpg

i cant get it to do 485fsb but im happy with the results ,still memory timing needs tweaking.
10-06-2009, 01:38 AM
In-Fluence

Thanks for the good luck wishes! :)

It transpires that I placed the order, finance gets agreed, then they go and sell their last 2 to someone else! I'm not going to name & shame them, but I'm a tad peeved about it! Particularly as this is coming with 8Gb of OCZ blades and a handful of modding trinkets. They have reassured me it won't be long though so I'll hopefully get it in time for the weekend.
10-06-2009, 03:25 AM
KRich

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davit

Thanks man! That is a nice low vid! Damn I bet you still have plenty of room left! I am going to try some benching at 4.5 tonight, big thanks to OC Nub! Some great tips, so hopefully I can post tomorrow morning with a good news!

I'm ready to receive all that extra speed :D Best of luck with 4.5 and sending all positive thoughts your way :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Congrats on the great cpu, very nice overclock.

Cheers buddy :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Thanks for the good luck wishes! :) They have reassured me it won't be long though so I'll hopefully get it in time for the weekend.

All the best and looking forward to hearing your good news too :up:
10-06-2009, 03:46 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davit

OK. Thanks brother! Doing it right now.
Was busy getting sli to work on p-45... what do you know..

Very nice. Would like to see some 3d results on that beast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by -n7-

Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: how'd you know my batch?! :eek:

My VID is actually 1.15v though, unless Core Temp/Real Temp are wrong.
http://ense7en.com/pics/q9650/vid1.15.JPG

Based on your VID, it should be able to go higher than 4.1 on the right board. Same your UD3P wasn't working well for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quattro_

the best i can do with Asus RE is 480x9 :
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i4...Untitled-8.jpg

i cant get it to do 485fsb but im happy with the results ,still memory timing needs tweaking.

Very nicely done, could you please post your BIOS template or PM me with it? Haven't really pushed my REX with the Q9650 but 4GHz was very easy, would be interesting to see your settings.
10-06-2009, 04:10 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRich

I got a lot of inspiration from all you amazing chaps here and am so excited to tell you that I got my dream Q9650 :clap:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/325...4400l847cq.png

I have improved watercooling in the works as I just know that this chip has plenty more to give and which I am ready to receive :cool:

4.4GHz at 1.328v actual in CPU-Z feels so good and just rocks - I am so happy :D

Thanks so much to you all for all your continued contributions here and I wanted to give this back :up:

woaaaaa !!!

Very nice mate awesome vid what batch is it ? :clap:
10-06-2009, 04:11 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by -n7-

Holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: how'd you know my batch?! :eek:

My VID is actually 1.15v though, unless Core Temp/Real Temp are wrong.
http://ense7en.com/pics/q9650/vid1.15.JPG

jeje i spoted you somewhere over the forums :up:
10-06-2009, 04:29 AM
KRich

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

woaaaaa !!!

Very nice mate awesome vid what batch is it ? :clap:

Cheers buddy :up: It is one of the golden L847C chips :D
10-06-2009, 05:49 AM
-n7-

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRich

Cheers buddy :up: It is one of the golden L847C chips :D

You've got a winner there, nicely done!

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Based on your VID, it should be able to go higher than 4.1 on the right board. Same your UD3P wasn't working well for you.

I can, sorta.

But life with 8 GB isn't nearly as easy as with 4 GB, & i much prefer 8 GB with a lower clock to 4 GB with higher.

I did indeed buy a UD3P for a bit, but i wasn't very happy with it. (This was with my Q9550 & Mushkin 8 GB previously, granted.)
I saw right away how nice it was for clocking w/ 4 GB, but then i put the other two DIMMs in, & it turned into crap.
I couldn't even get it to POST past 467 FSB unless i was using the 266 strap, & while i eventually i thought i got 8.5x471 stable, the exact same setting were unstable the next time i ran stesstesting (they'd passed before).
In general, i found the board to be very inconsistent & flakey for 8 GB use, so i went back to my P5Q-D, where at least i find it consistent.

Here's i'm running 4.275 GHz
http://ense7en.com/pics/q9650/Q9650%...e%202%20hr.JPG

It's not really stable though, & i don't like running settings that don't run everything i throw at it.
Also, temps get too high around 4.2 GHz or higher as somehow even my lapped TRUE sucks.
10-06-2009, 05:55 AM
KRich

Quote:

Originally Posted by -n7-

You've got a winner there, nicely done!

Thanks ever so much :up:

You've got a gem yourself and there is undoubtedly so much more it has to give - Have fun and good luck :up:
10-06-2009, 03:53 PM
Davit

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

In my experience, even though not perfect, CPU's are a lot flatter than heatsinks/blocks. Also as you said, a block is a lot cheaper than a Q9650. If I were you, I'd try lapping the block at least a small amount, before lapping the cpu.
Congrats on the great cpu, very nice overclock.

Thanks man, i will give it a shot and see what happens. Lapping kit should be here today, so we will see how it goes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

Davit, just lower vtt to 1.20v in bios, set ref's, then raise vtt back up. no need to load defaults.

Got it brother, that is exactly what I did. Was pretty straight forward!

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRich

I'm ready to receive all that extra speed :D Best of luck with 4.5 and sending all positive thoughts your way :up:
All the best and looking forward to hearing your good news too :up:

Thank you my friend,
No luck so far. I forgot to do my screens, but at 4.5 I am keep on failing prime,, most I got was 1.5hrs... I bumped the mch to around 1.44 and vtt to 1.36 while vcore is at 1.525... gonna play around a bit more with it. Maybe raise mch to 1.46 and vtt to 1.40...
10-06-2009, 03:56 PM
Davit

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Very nice. Would like to see some 3d results on that beast.

Well vantage was weird... MY gpu score was lower when I run it on single card overclocked. I know the sli is working cuz I can turn second card off and on in nvidia control panel... but something is definitely not working.
Overclocked single gtx 295 I got P24.1K in vantage, with 2 of them only 20.5K(not oc'ed)... so I need to tinker with it a bit. Cuz I should at least break 25K
10-07-2009, 03:43 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by -n7-

You've got a winner there, nicely done!

I can, sorta.

But life with 8 GB isn't nearly as easy as with 4 GB, & i much prefer 8 GB with a lower clock to 4 GB with higher.

I did indeed buy a UD3P for a bit, but i wasn't very happy with it. (This was with my Q9550 & Mushkin 8 GB previously, granted.)
I saw right away how nice it was for clocking w/ 4 GB, but then i put the other two DIMMs in, & it turned into crap.
I couldn't even get it to POST past 467 FSB unless i was using the 266 strap, & while i eventually i thought i got 8.5x471 stable, the exact same setting were unstable the next time i ran stesstesting (they'd passed before).
In general, i found the board to be very inconsistent & flakey for 8 GB use, so i went back to my P5Q-D, where at least i find it consistent.

It's not really stable though, & i don't like running settings that don't run everything i throw at it.
Also, temps get too high around 4.2 GHz or higher as somehow even my lapped TRUE sucks.

You should do at least the same as me with that batch mate, but what revision of ud3p you had ? 8GB with the UD3P is perfectly doable

Cheers mate :up:
Sergio
10-07-2009, 03:55 AM
radaja

KRich,if you ever decide to get rid of your
Q9650,i want it!!!:D
well i will actually take any of your guys chips
(n7,Davit,sergio,CryptiK,OCnub and so on and so on)
god i want a low vid Q9650.
so remember if any of you guys decide to sell
your Q9650's please oh please shoot me a PM:rolleyes:
10-07-2009, 04:01 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

KRich,if you ever decide to get rid of your
Q9650,i want it!!!:D
well i will actually take any of your guys chips
(n7,Davit,sergio,CryptiK,OCnub and so on and so on)
god i want a low vid Q9650.
so remember if any of you guys decide to sell
your Q9650's please oh please shoot me a PM:rolleyes:

:rofl: i trade it for ya 4200 I7 on 1,2vcore :rofl:
10-07-2009, 04:07 AM
radaja

yes i got lucky with my i7-920
but im still learning this i7 stuff
but i just really like LGA775 stuff
it just seems to be more fun
tweaking on the UD3P/Q9650
with ddr2 memory,but like i said
im very new to i7,maybe ill find
it to be fun in time.:)
10-07-2009, 05:09 AM
CryptiK

Your i7 is epic radaja, you should be very happy with it.

I feel the same though, i7 I find quite boring to overclock and tweak, but perhaps as you said it may grow on me. I just use it as my workstation / game pc though, I have no real desire to push it hard or bench it. Mine does 4.2 @ 1.296v so it's ok, but its not as nice as yours.

Keep looking around for a Q9650, they can be damn nice chips, and this thread is proof. I don't have the right board to get the most out of mine though. I just came across my chip by pure luck, I was looking for a good i7 batch and I saw the L847C Q9650 and took the chance.

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