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01-27-2009, 05:01 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Weedman

For me its the exact same size as the 0602 rom file. Should be about 1024k.

edit: i got ninja'd

LOL, that happens on here quite a bit. I downloaded again and flashed just a sec ago.. gonna play a bit. I found so far that Mem set to auto puts my 1066 ram to 400 with 5-5-5-5 15. And when ACC is turned on auto, not post. I haven't tried manual yet, but most likely same thing.
01-27-2009, 08:03 PM
HondaGuy

Just the 940 hooked up on this board, working well.......

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9422/cpu940ze4.png
01-27-2009, 08:28 PM
charged3800z24

Well, my first runs on 0701

250HT 2250NB, just over 17

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...250HT_Pi1M.JPG

I tried a lil diff approach, 245HT and 2940NB, I just can't break 17's :p:

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...5HT_2940NB.JPG
01-27-2009, 10:38 PM
gOtVoltage

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged3800z24

Well, my first runs on 0701

250HT 2250NB, just over 17

I tried a lil diff approach, 245HT and 2940NB, I just can't break 17's :p:

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...5HT_2940NB.JPG

Ok try this for timing...

In Manual timing Mode @ the same Freqency your Ram is at Now,, Adjust Timing Use DTC0 mode only and change as follows.

Using the 800/667/533 or 400 ram divider you can run cas 4 pretty easy in Unganged Mode. Gives me best performance with 2700+ nb on my little B3:D

CAS ,, 4
TCwl ,, 5
Trcd ,, 4
TRP ,, 4

Leave eveything else on Auto even TRC...and yes you must use 4-5-4-4 for it to work , dont set 4-4-4-4 timing.

This will set 4-4-4-15 on any ram up to 1100mhz ..

The little lower Latency may help ya bust 17's,,

Hope it works for ya.

P.S. works on 0602 and 0701 Bios 800 or lower ram divider.
01-28-2009, 04:29 AM
kik

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

KIK,,
if you still cant get the volts higher ,,Try loading OPtimized defaults,, then do a Clear CMOS. Sometimes when flashing a new Bios you can easily forget to Clear CMOS after Flashing. I had to clear three times in row with some Bioses on Boards before they worked good

Tried now, no luck.. Just so you know exactly how I mean, I compiled a very professional movie.
:D
http://www.onionen.se/pub/bios_voltage.3gp

Filmed with my cellphone, quality is utterly crap. It's in 3gp-format, should be playable with Quicktime or in VLC.
01-28-2009, 06:18 AM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Ok try this for timing...

In Manual timing Mode @ the same Freqency your Ram is at Now,, Adjust Timing Use DTC0 mode only and change as follows.

Using the 800/667/533 or 400 ram divider you can run cas 4 pretty easy in Unganged Mode. Gives me best performance with 2700+ nb on my little B3:D

CAS ,, 4
TCwl ,, 5
Trcd ,, 4
TRP ,, 4

Leave eveything else on Auto even TRC...and yes you must use 4-5-4-4 for it to work , dont set 4-4-4-4 timing.

This will set 4-4-4-15 on any ram up to 1100mhz ..

The little lower Latency may help ya bust 17's,,

Hope it works for ya.

P.S. works on 0602 and 0701 Bios 800 or lower ram divider.

Ah, ya, I should give that a try...I just left everything on auto. Thanks for the info. I will give it a go today. We are snowed in so I should have some play time (if my wife lets me) HAHAHa
01-28-2009, 11:36 AM
charged3800z24

OK, so I beat 17s finally, but not with mem timings LOL, I tried what you suggested and My ram sucks Poo. Here is my recent attempts. I first was going for 4.2ghz and it would lock up. So I set everything on auto other then the CPU multi. And still 4.2ghz would not boot. So, I tried less voltage. And 4.2ghz went right into windows. I will try higher NB later, wife wants to kick my arse at some Mario Kart Wii.

my best Pi 1M

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...00NB800ram.JPG

4.2ghz was validated and Pi 1M

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...4.2ghzPi1M.JPG
01-28-2009, 01:39 PM
gOtVoltage

Nice work... Tweaking Phenom is always time consuming and a challenge for that nice Oc.

I get my highest clocks by changing one setting at a time...:up:
01-28-2009, 01:45 PM
G.Foyle

charged3800z24, is that with 0701?
01-28-2009, 02:23 PM
Hawkeye4077

What htt voltage are yall on? My 940 wont do 250htt * 15 (3750mhz) at 1.30v but it will do 200*19 (3800) just fine on vcore bump alone..
01-28-2009, 02:25 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Nice work... Tweaking Phenom is always time consuming and a challenge for that nice Oc.

I get my highest clocks by changing one setting at a time...:up:

That is why I like the Phenom, both I and II. I never get bored tweaking them. :yepp: As always I appreciate your input. I am think about getting this ram Here

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoqolatl

charged3800z24, is that with 0701?

Yes, this was using the 0701 bios.
01-28-2009, 02:28 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye4077

What htt voltage are yall on? My 940 wont do 250htt * 15 (3750mhz) at 1.30v but it will do 200*19 (3800) just fine on vcore bump alone..

if you are refering to me, I have all voltages stock except the CPU for my 250HT ref clock in that pic above.
01-28-2009, 02:33 PM
Hawkeye4077

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged3800z24

if you are refering to me, I have all voltages stock except the CPU for my 250HT ref clock in that pic above.

broad statement to all who can get 250htt to run stable
01-28-2009, 05:31 PM
Titan7171

heres the highest ht link /nb I could muster......bus speed goes to about 285mhz

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/htnb2970.jpg
01-28-2009, 06:58 PM
gOtVoltage

Hahhaaa thats priceless..

So indeed its the Phenom IICPU that exclusively allows use of Higher HT/NB 5200+ despite the HTT of Mobo.

if my eyes are seeing correct your @ HT2900+ which = 5800+ ht's :D.
01-28-2009, 07:03 PM
Ben_Brown

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan7171

heres the highest ht link /nb I could muster......bus speed goes to about 285mhz

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...1/htnb2970.jpg

Can you try and run something like 3DMark06 to see if a ht link that high makes any difference?
01-28-2009, 08:03 PM
Titan7171

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben_Brown

Can you try and run something like 3DMark06 to see if a ht link that high makes any difference?

actually I was testing with superpi and at 3.9ghz....and increasing ht/nb after a certain point I was actually losing performance.

I was doing that and had some strange results, in both ht nb set the same, results in 3dm06

2ghz ht/nb cpu score 5298

2.2ghz....................5373 running only the cpu bench, but when I ran the whole test 5502:confused:

2.4ghz................... 5469 only cpu test.........about the same running full benchmark

2.6ghz and 2.8ghz.......I saw absolutly no increase in performance .....cpu score was in the 54xx range.

Never did I hit cpu score of 55xx at any other setting than that 2.2ghz run

but lets think about this now.........ddr 2 may not be able to take advantage of the ht/nb speeds above 2400/2600mhz

this scenario reminds me exactly of what happens in 3dm06 when you have a major bottlneck if the cpu is too weak no matter how much you overclock the graphics card your score wont go up.

could this happen between the NB and memory speed?? will ddr3 let ht/nb performance increase. Or am I totally wrong and the problem was the cpu speed not utilizing the ht/nb speeds??

Or could I have just fudged up the whole test:rofl:

lots of questions:shrug:
01-28-2009, 08:43 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by gOtVoltage

Hahhaaa thats priceless..

So indeed its the Phenom IICPU that exclusively allows use of Higher HT/NB 5200+ despite the HTT of Mobo.

if my eyes are seeing correct your @ HT2900+ which = 5800+ ht's :D.

hows this, 3000HT and 3000NB with wPrime and PI 1M
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/495136.png
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP32/3.9/cpu-z.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...0ht_3000nb.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...nbwPrime32.JPG
01-28-2009, 10:22 PM
Titan7171

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged3800z24

hows this, 3000HT and 3000NB with wPrime and PI 1M
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/495136.png
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP32/3.9/cpu-z.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...0ht_3000nb.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...nbwPrime32.JPG

thats awsome the only thing is (im trying to understand why?) that you having higher ht link by (320mhz) and nb (110mhz) tighter timings and higher bus speed doesnt equate to faster.........nm I think its the memory speed.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...771/wprime.jpg
01-29-2009, 02:18 AM
G.Foyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan7171

could this happen between the NB and memory speed?? will ddr3 let ht/nb performance increase. Or am I totally wrong and the problem was the cpu speed not utilizing the ht/nb speeds??

It seems that with fast DDR3 (>1333) NB speed is bottlenecking memory performance. ~2800MHz NB is needed to see proper scaling of performance with memory speed.
01-29-2009, 04:58 AM
Titan7171

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoqolatl

It seems that with fast DDR3 (>1333) NB speed is bottlenecking memory performance. ~2800MHz NB is needed to see proper scaling of performance with memory speed.

so then can the opposite be said here?? I have upwards results of 2900+ nb but since my memory is only 1066/ddr2 I only see increase up to 2200-2400, then 2600-2980 is basically useless for me because of the memory bottleneck??
01-29-2009, 07:33 AM
N19h7m4r3

Is there much of an improvement using Bios 0701 compared to 0601 with clocking PH II?
01-29-2009, 07:42 AM
G.Foyle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan7171

so then can the opposite be said here?? I have upwards results of 2900+ nb but since my memory is only 1066/ddr2 I only see increase up to 2200-2400, then 2600-2980 is basically useless for me because of the memory bottleneck??

Perhaps, I never really tested DDR2 scaling with NB freq. Try different RAM speeds + different NB freq at Sandra 2009 memory benchmark or Everest Memeory test.
01-29-2009, 01:59 PM
aGeoM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XRogerX

Well i think i have gone Blind cause i cant find no one that has this board with a x4 940 on AIR and overclocked

HI

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=490768

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7...ii94vh2.th.jpg

Cooling : CoolerMaster Gemini II + 2x Scythe Slip Stream 120 110CFM

:up:
01-29-2009, 04:54 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan7171

thats awsome the only thing is (im trying to understand why?) that you having higher ht link by (320mhz) and nb (110mhz) tighter timings and higher bus speed doesnt equate to faster.........nm I think its the memory speed.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...771/wprime.jpg

I was just trying to see if I could have 3000HT and 3000NB at near 4ghz cpu :p: My ram being low was a big factor, when I have it higher, I do also get better scores. I think If I could get the best of both worlds I would see good results. I might see if I can.

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