No issues so far with CPU voltage on automatic.
No issues so far with CPU voltage on automatic.
What is trfc??Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
RAM is manually seted to stock timmings and frec.
I have no problem tu run on 333*9 rising the nb voltaje and vtt voltaje, my doubt is why to run on stock clocks i have to rise voltajes to?
its found in the dram timing page. its setting having values having upto over 70. :D
Well the n00b has arrived.... I just finished building my system DFI Lanparty LT P35-T2R and when i booted up the first time I check BIOS and was a bit confused on the CPU speed and Memory speed
BIOS
Processor is Q6600 G0 and memory is Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
I don't believe the Q6600 should be running a 7x multiplier, shouldn't that be 9x? The memory is running at 1.9 volts and I forgot to double check the processor voltage.
Here is the info I got when I started running Memtest86+
Memtest
What the heck is the computer doing? Shouldn't it be running stock on first boot? I think the RAM should be running 2.2 volts... argh I am so confused... :(
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
The Q6600 should be running at a 6 x multiplier if C1E is enabled under CPU options. It will rise up to a 9 x multi when there is CPU load. If you are talking about in the BIOS then just change it to 9 x and call it a day. The RAM voltage may not need to be 2.2 v if you aren't running it at it's rated speed. You've got to remember that you now have a DFI motherboard and they need some attention. If the system fails stress tests at the settings the BIOS defaults to then just change them to settings that don't fail.:D
saint-francis I see in your sig you are running with both vdroop and c1e enabled. I thought when running overclocked that you needed to run a fixed multi and voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by saint-francis
You don't need to have a fixed multi and voltage. In the past, you either had auto vcore, which would automatically drop the vcore if c1e/speedstep were enabled. And if you set a vcore manually, it wouldn't drop. If you use something that keeps vcore at auto, but still increases you can have C1E enabled and still have voltage change. That is what I am doing right now for 3.6 stable, when not in use, it drops to 2.7 (6x). I have my OC multi set to 8x for a higher FSB.
So basically I need to set vcore to auto and use the % adjustment over the stock and enble c1e to make this work?
Does vtt voltage stay set manually or does it go back to auto to change with the other volts as the multi changes?
Sorry if this has already been covered. I stopped reading this thread daily after I got a stable oc I was happy with. Around page 118 or 120 I think!
Wow when I enable vdroop (per saint-francis sig) with ce1 I get a quick bsod when priming. With out vdroop she primes for a few hours (longest I have run so far). I will let it run overnight.
Hi guys, beta bios 5/02 has now been re-named to 5/21. No clue what else is changed as it is still using the same description from the 5/02 bios. Anyone care to flash and share?
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=B&SITE=US
What would you guys say a good BIOS for some wolfdale action be?
I have *gasp* 9/13...
People say that beta bios 109 is the best, by i personaly don't noticed big difference (between february). FSB 550 is max for my wolfy.Quote:
Originally Posted by breakfromyou
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by Kris
You probably want to set the VTT manually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
I don't really understand this. When you have vdroop set to enable you get a BSOD and when you have it set to disable you don't? Apparently you have to have a fairly solid OC to use C1E. And I do notice that I need to set the special add a little higher when setting vdroop control to enabled but it all pans out in the end because the voltage will droop a little under load and with C1E it drops proportionally with the multi. I have easily run my system right up to 3.9 using this method without ever touching GTL settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris
The vDroop option is opposite of what it sounds like. Disabled removes the vDroop, enabled leaves the mosfets to control as they should.
Thanks for the responses. I let it prime for 12hours with the vdroop disabled with no errors! I was able to lower vtt and chipset voltage as well! Not sure why or how that worked out because when I first got the oc stable prime would fail if lowered either or both of those settings. Weird but good because now I can keep my oc the same thru the summer! 3400@ 1.34v bios - 1.32 windows.
But like I said earlier, with vdroop control enabled you will need to set a higher voltage, BUT, the resulting droop under load will most likely balance this.
Yes, this what I am doing. On the 12-24 bios enabling vdroop actually disables it.
Thanks for your help! I was wondering about doing this for the summer since the only time I load all four cores to the max is when I do some video encoding.
whats the diference of dfi lp ut p35, x38?
Basically, aside from the obvious difference of NB... crossfire support. That and the P35 seems to perform a little better. If you are only using one video card the P35 seems to be the way to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frega
the p35 is faster the x38 is only if you doing crossfireQuote:
Originally Posted by Frega
tried the 05/21...seems to be more stable than 05/02...especially on my wolfdale (sorry for my bad batch e8400)Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...ucialBal-2.png
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...ucialBal-1.png
OCCT Stable
DFI™ LanParty UT P35-T2R (0521 Beta Bios)
Intel™ Core2Duo E8400 with Thermalright™ Ultra-120 Extreme
Crucial® Ballistix DDR2-8500 2x 1Gb
XFX™ NVidia™ 8800GTX
Creative™ Sound Blaster X-Fi™ XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro
Western Digital™ Raptor 74GB
Silverstone™ DA750
Tfine Item Value Degree --> still not sure what this is but was able to lower my tRFCCode:>CPU Feature:
Thermal Management Control.......... - Enabled
PPM(EIST) Mode...................... - Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal.................. - Disabled
CIE Function........................ - Auto
Execute Disable Bit................. - Enabled
Virtualization Technology........... - Enabled
Core Multi-Processing............... - Enabled
>DRAM Timing:
Enhance Data transmitting........... - Fast
Enhance Addressing.................. - Fast
T2 Dispatch......................... - Auto
>Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:
Tfine Item Value Degree............ - 120ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting......... - More Aggressive
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay............. - Current[89ps]
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay............. - Current[489ps]
Ch1 ControlFine Delay.............. - Current[801ps]
Ch1 ControlFine Delay.............. - Current[545ps]
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting......... - More Aggressive
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay............. - Current[89ps]
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay............. - Current[545ps]
Ch2 ControlFine Delay.............. - Current[801ps]
Ch2 ControlFine Delay.............. - Current[489ps]
Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting....... - More Aggressive
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............ - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL).............. - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)........... - 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................ - 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS).............. - 15
All Precharge to Act................ - 5
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)............. - 28
Performance Level................... - 7
>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:
Ch1 Read delay phase............... - 6-7-7-7-6
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.......... - Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.......... - Enabled
Ch2 Read delay phase............... - 7-7-7-7-6
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.......... - Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.......... - Auto
MCH ODT Latency..................... - 2
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP).......... - 3
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - 5
>Voltage Settings:
CPU VID Control..................... - Auto 1.220v
CPU VID Special Add Limit........... - Disabled
CPU VID Special Add................. - 111.10%
DRAM Voltage Control................ - 2.15v
SB 1.05V Voltage.................... - 1.070v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage............. - 1.55v
NB Core Voltage..................... - 1.41v
CPU VTT Voltage..................... - 1.170v
Vcore Droop Control................. - Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control............ - 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength............... - Strong
Host Slew Rate...................... - Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control............. - Enabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt................. - 58
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt................ - 60
North Bridge GTL REF Volt........... - 58
Genie BIOS Settings:
Exist Setup Shutdown................ - Mode 2
Shutdown after AC loss.............. - Disabled
O.C. Retry fail counter............. - 0
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock.............. - Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio..................... - 8x
CPU N/2 Rato........................ - Disabled
Target CPU Clock.................... - 3802MHz
CPU Clock........................... - 475
Boot Up Clock....................... - 400
DRAM Speed.......................... - 333/800
Target DRAM Speed................... - 1141MHz
PCIE Clock.......................... - 100Mhz
PCIE Slot Config.................... - 1x 1x
CPU Spread Spectrum................. - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum................ - Disabled
Thanks for the test emoners. If this thing contains the later sata raid rom bios I would try it, otherwise it isn't worth getting off Praz' modded 3/17 which contains this updated rom as it plays well with my drives.
Beta Bios 0521 seems to read VCore and CPU VTT higher than set in the bios :
CPU : 1.2325V (bios) = 1.248V under load in windows
CPU VTT : 1.21 (bios) = 1.23V in windows. 1.25V VTT even reads 1.28V, according to Smartguardian.
Still having massive problems with my X3350 though.
I still can't seem to resolve the problem (after 1 week of trying).:(
Maybe the board has become flaky and it's time to look out for something else.
Guys i need some help pls .. After updating to 0521 i decided that is time come back to 317 (i had some stability issues) , but during the Winflash update it stops at 61% ..passed 30 min and no activity.. I have a bios chip from a p965-s do u think i can use that to boot and reflash my bios?? Pls help..
PS : My system was not oc during the update.. all stock
you can hotflash the chip with the 965 boardQuote:
Originally Posted by ninjaskija
you can get a new chip from biosdepot on ebay 10$
i can hotflash it for you for free
well i could hotflash it myself if the p965 wasn't broken.. I appreciate u're offer but i'm in europe so that could be kinda hard & long, but tx anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
I remembered that i have a friend at work who can write this kind of chips (flashing device) so its all ok but i can't w8 till tomorrow :D
i got me some spare chips just for this kinda problems lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ninjaskija
1 for my x38 n 1 for my p35 cost me 23$us for both shipped
It seems i have a problem with my UT..
So.. if i use wolfdale ( tied 3 x E8400 and 1 x E8500 ) and i set vcore 1.5 or more , then the boards shuts off and thats all.
This value depends on cpu, but in the past i dont got this kind of error/bug.
If i set 1.4 and the rest with % its ok, until a value ( higher than before ), but i got same thing with increasing the vcore..
Any suggestions?
brotha esau are selling bios chip :)
it's better if you could get from him :D
thanks ;)
Sorry to hear of your troubles, seems yet another had to learn the hard way NOT to flash in Windows. Quite a few have spoken about this issue. Flashing from a USB drive in DOS mode is the best bet, in fact I have not heard of a single board death when using this method.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaskija
is it 12$ shipped lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DJSUB
Anyone using GSkill F2-8500CL5D-2GBHK on this board? Got a fresh set and want to see how well these play together.
Well its ok now :D i have 2 bios chips flashed... i think from now on i'll use Tmod/Logan boot CD cus u can flash virtually to any bios version..Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
I haven't had any time to clock them yet but I just put together my dads system with this exact board and that exact ram. So far it powers up and posts without issue. Timings are highly relaxed but recognized properly and at 1.9v the system has no problem doing anything. When the Velociraptors and new video card show up for the system I will finally be able to see what it is made of as a whole. One thing I am jealous of is the real low VID of 1.2450 for his Q6600. Wish I had that VID for my own.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
@cantankerous: what's the vid on your Q6600?
1.2750, still not too bad, but not 1.2450 either. I noticed a temp difference right off the bat, even with such a small change when running both systems from the same room.Quote:
Originally Posted by emoners
oh ok...i got a 1.2375 vid, but haven't got the chance to do some OCing...just able to run 3.2ghz at stock volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
Well that is stellar, even better than my dads VID, that chip should be a keeper for sure. I can do in the 3.1x range on stock volts with my VID, but anything higher needs a jump to 1.35+
So you still on 5/21? Find it better than 3/17?
:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
Thanks, for the info. Sounds like a great system for your dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
I have had a similar thing happen with my 8400 around 1.47+ trying to boot at 4.5ghz with fsb > 500. This is on an e8400 that had degraded a bit (maybe.05v), but it used to boot up and run 32m at that speed with 1.37vcore. It also used to run at 550fsb with around 1.4vcore. I def think it's not the chip, but I want to do more testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
I will try to just boot up at a low clock with 1.5v and let you know..
The only way to raise voltage above this is by using cpu vid special add. I was also surprised seeing that you can't raise voltage above 1.48v-1.5v. Maybe it's a feature than a bugQuote:
Originally Posted by M3kk
Huh, that's interesting. I assume you can go up to 2.0v + with special add? Must be so because I've seen some heavy benchmarks with this board.
I saw in another thread someone having similar issues around 1.45v and even with add could only get in at 1.53v max. A bios flash cure the issue.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=188307
i am in a dilemma
best overclockability with a q6600 or an e8400... dk p35 , lt p35 or , dk x38 ?
lt p35 and dk x38 are almost same price.. so i wonder...
all I know is, I want a DFI .. my x2 4200+ is running on my nf4 sli-d stable stable for like 3 yrs or so already...
please advice
thanks
the lt ut p35 is better than my dfi-x38Quote:
Originally Posted by vcp-cur
@emon
Any benefit over the 3/17? I'm kinda lazy to flash these days. :D
HEy guys, can anyone give me indepth detail of how these all work....
Clock Setting Fine Delay Press Enter:
Tfine Item Value Degree............ - Auto
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting......... - Auto
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay............. - Auto
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay............. - Auto
Ch1 ControlFine Delay.............. - Auto
Ch1 ControlFine Delay.............. - Auto
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting......... - Auto
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay............. - Auto
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay............. - Auto
Ch2 ControlFine Delay.............. - Auto
Ch2 ControlFine Delay.............. - Auto
Ch1 Ch2 Common Clock Setting....... - Auto
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch1 Command To CS Delay............ - Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay........... - Auto
Ch2 Command To CS Delay............ - Auto
CAS Latency Time (tCL).............. - Auto
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)........... - Auto
RAS# Precharge (tRP)................ - Auto
Precharge Delay (tRAS).............. - Auto
All Precharge to Act................ - Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)............. - Auto
Performance Level................... - Auto
[b]>Read delay phase adjust Press Enter:
Ch1 Read delay phase............... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Ch2 Read delay phase............... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.......... - Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.......... - Auto
MCH ODT Latency..................... - Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)............ - Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR)........... - Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)............. - Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)........ - Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD).......... - Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)......... - Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP).......... - Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh.................. - Auto
These things muddle me. Its not use just playing around with them hoping to see performance, its better to know what does what and what affects what.
If someone has the time to explain I would really appreciate it. Coz i like to learn more about my boards potential.
Thanks DoOb's
Anyone using GSkill F2-6400CL4D-4GBHK on this board???
Any idea to do with my config 500x8? or 445x9 to use 24/7, I need some help to achieve good stability....
Anyone getting Vdimm droop on this board? In my case it seems to have shown up over time. I have three different D9GMH kits, one of which is brand new as of yesterday so degradation of the ram itself is not an issue. I found that adding .1v got me back stable at clocks that were 8 hours stable months ago but had slipped.
In other words does this board show signs of wear and tear after months of high fsb usage? Maybe a break in phase? I need to measure this from the board sensors this weekend.
Board still rocks though.
let us know what you come up with after you have actually measured with some sort of tool as concrete numbers say a lot. Perhaps your board is exhibiting said issue, but that doesn't mean it will happen in general to this make and model. It also sounds exactly like what happens when ram degrades. I know you said one kit is brand new but hey.
Perhaps try another bios that you were familiar with working with in the past as changes may have been made in later bioses that exhibit this sort of behaviour. When you say high FSB over time, how high is high?
500 for a few months. Not nesc. a statement about the board, just my symptoms and a question to the group about theirs. It could be that one of the older kits had degraded slightly and the new one just needs more by default. It could also be change in PSU I suppose. I also have a fresh Corsair 1000hx on hand to setup. We'll see. I don't really care what it is as long as I can pin it.
well at least you are open to the possibilities of what could be causing it. Let us know what it is when you nail the answer down in case someone else runs into a similar issue down the road. Good luck.
Thanks. I tried several tests and found that a nb bump pretty much cured that symptom. Stable at old clock once again. During testing I also noticed that my vcore is reading up a bit more than normal in windows and fluctuating a tad. Gotta break this thing down tomorrow and try the corsair.
At one point I left GTLs to auto and got a blue screen right as windows loaded. I have had them set manually for so long that I was curious to try auto - no good lol. Set them back manually and it's orthos and occt stable for hours.
Great to hear! At least nothing was wrong.
OOPS wrong Thread Sorry. Just a quick question, whats the difference between 1.0 and 1.0A as to the video,ie PCI-E in bios?
Reason I ask is that I am switching my vid from an HD3870 which is 2.0 and bios detects 1.0A for the setting, and am going to an 8800GTX and just figured I may need to switch it to 1.0 in bios?
Thanks
Larry
I don't know what the differences are but I have left it at 1.0a for any video card installed and never had an issue.
Has anyone anywhere gotten a q9450 450FSB stable on this board? I think the gtl ref's must be different for the 45nm Quads vs the 65nm Quads. I can't manage much over 400 FSB with everything set to auto. As I start adjusting GTL's I get 88 error code upon restart. I've had this chip up to 495FSB on another board so I know it can do it.
65mm needs around 67% 45mm needs 61-64%Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
Hey Zsams
Liking your T2R P35 I see :D
Glad you like it. I am too busy to tweak much these days, but still love my T2R.
looks like I will be changing jobs so hopefully I have more free time to take care of certain things (thanks for being so patient Cantan) and get back into tweaking and resume benching.
Anytime my friend, your personal life, health and sanity are far more important than my card. Work your magic whenever you can and get back to me at your convenience only.Quote:
Originally Posted by turtletrax
BTW, changing jobs again?! I wish I could do that =((
oopss sorry Matt, don't have my board anymore:DQuote:
Originally Posted by fireice2
but i like the 5/21 beta better than the 3/17 for my e8400 since there were more choices to tweak the ram
@emon
wow, what's your new board then? hehehe, can I have the transpiper? :D
i retired my ut p35:D its too perfect lol was open box no warranty i'll abuse my x38:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by turtletrax
no time for benchin
Can anyone give me there voltage settings for a q6600 with a 3.6 overclock for 24/7 use... Thanks
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3129
that article has a nice little guide on what you can do with a few of the more mysterious settings in the BIOS of the DFI LP UT P35-T2R
Thanks, is 1.4 too much vtt for 423 fsb, because it wasnt quite stable last night, 1 core failed, my muli is set at 6x so just testing for stable fsb, I raised the nb voltage a little bit to see if that was the cause of the 1 core failing, otherwise it looks like I need to mess with gtl. But first I thought I would check and see if that is a usual vtt for a q6600 and lt motherboard.
I have my VTT at 1.5v for stability and my FSB is only 425, I have tried lowering it but end up with failures. Setting it back to 1.5 and all is gravy again.
hmm so just look at the 65nm tables over @ anandtech or edge of stability and subtract 3-6% from each value. Thanks:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
No, 1 gtl setting is not 1%. http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3129&p=12
I think around 5 or so is 1%.
Looking for advice of my setup...... I should have it by tomorrow evening. All is in my Signature. :D
BUMP !!:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by RobPuba
dump vistax64 it causes too many problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by RobPuba
I'm running using Vista x64 and it's not giving me any problems. It's pretty nice once you get rid or turn off all the programs you don't need running.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottc19
And it can be huge in terms of install size..alright I'm not helping it's case.
The sand paper is going to be bought today and I have a nice piece of glass laying around. Thanks for the tip about checking out Autozone as I find what I needed. I'll lap it and posts results as soon as I can. I've also bought some of OCZ thermal paste so we'll see how it performs against Artic Silver 5. :up:
?
Air.
Nice Alex-Ro, that's what I love to see! P45 is going to have a hard time to beat this board lol. x38 and x48 pfff.
Commando and UT P35 FTMFW.
i got the dfi x-38 n the dfi ut p35 beats it lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
and by reports x38 beating the p45 so far but x38-48 cant do verry high fsb
looks like ut-p35 n commando on top
I am soo glad I got the UT P35 after hearing posts like that. I was wondering if I made a wrong choice in not waiting for the later models, I guess not!
The X38 onwards are geared more towards Quad cores. The P35 is only the right choice if you are using Dual cores.
bah, and here I am using a Quad core too...
The P35 is the right choice whatever dual or quad.I remember q6600 reached pretty easy 500+ fsb in this board.Still i am going to test the p45 and then decide which one is better :)
A Quad at 500+fsb ? A screenshot of it stable at that would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
Not really stable ,i said just for benching.
Yea I had mine at 468mhz and even that was really pushing it. Stable, but barely. I really don't think I could have gone higher as I was already at 1.6v for both chipset and VTT and had to tweak GTL's like a mofo just to get it to do what it did.
This board really is holding up despite a lot of newly released boards. :D
Alex, if you don't mind me asking, what are your settings for VTT, NB and gtls?
I can get 600fsb with set fsb but only validate up to 595.
TX
Did you need to loosen any memory subtimings?
Its an awesome board, I've retired it when new stuff came out only to un-retire it several times :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fireice2
CN
lol i retired mine after a week now thinkin of goin back to perfectionQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I've got this board, had since the beginning of the year, Still havnt learnt how everything works i.e the memory section is mission to understand. I have still yet to find a write up on how each option works Definition etc. I know Amandtech have a full review there but its not enuf.
Can this board do 600FSB from bios to windows..... I'm at 560FSB so far on mine.
It might be an idea to get the Commando aswell for higher FSB
Ta
this board can do 600 as long as your cpu can do it i got mine to 586fsb first day then i retired it lol booted @ 580fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by DoObs
you gotta learn to tweak gtls;)
I have booted 595 ~ 605fsb into windows & run there all day whilst jerking around with an E8400 so I’m sure it can be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoObs
I have blown 3 x 45nm chips & degraded 3 x 45nm chips on this board whilst messing about benching for fun & had actually given up trying to push 45nm chips on this board until BIOS 0317 came out.
I know I'm probably going to get shot in the face for saying it but any BIOS before 0317 IMHO is not really safe to use with the 45nm CPU's over about 525fsb.
I have only booted up to 570 x 7 with 0317 (I am using 4GB of RAM that stop at 1140mhz) & don’t know if it will do 600+ fsb or not.
I have had a few Commandos which admittedly make mhz real easy but don’t come anywhere close to the DFI for voltage control & GTL tweaking which really is what you need to be tweaking for 600+ stable/benchable fsb.
Sure I've seen plenty of quick Commandos here but you got to find a golden one. My DFI will do 600fsb out of the box on air with no volt mods & it'll re-boot & do it over & over again it really is an amazing board.
Good luck
CN.
Doobs, same here - boots at about 580-590 then can move rest in setfsb once in windows. That's what I've seen most of these do - boot max 590 then up to 615+ once in windows - all on air. Can't remember what I've seen it do under ln2.
So Alex-Ro, and C-N what were your VTT/NB and GTL settings to validate or run 1m over 600fsb? I'm stuck at 595.
Don't think I've ever validated a dual core its not really my bag I like what I can use more than shooting for the stars.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
VTT & GTL's have been different for every CPU I've tried. I've never really needed more than 1.5v VTT & 50 ~ 62 on the GTL's on any of my CPU's.
Strange as it may sound I find 2 things that effect NB voltage on my board are number/size of hard drives & vdimm. For benching & messing about I usually use 1 or 2 small drives & find once I have it stable that I need a fair bit more NB voltage when I add another 2 ~ 3 drives into the mixer. I can also run lower vdimm by running higher nb voltage & vice versa.
Generally I have needed between 1.45 ~ 1.65 vNB depending on how I set things up to reach 600fsb.
CN
Oh great thanks CN, mr cape and zsamz_
CAn you guys tell me voltage range of the each setting for my E8400, also GTL's can one you guys please be so kind to help out on the GTLs
This is what im asking aswell, thought i would quote this from mrcapeQuote:
So Alex-Ro, and C-N what were your VTT/NB and GTL settings to validate or run 1m over 600fsb? I'm stuck at 595.
What range would i look for with the 3 GTLs and also VTT you guys havnt seen it to make your pc unstable.
Also Can someone supply me with a linky to a good bios like the one mentioned above for overclock to 600FSB
Thanks sooo much guys
My BIOS
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...l_018/BIOS.gif
Doobs - I'm on the most recent here -
DFI BIOS
But I think 3/17 version was just as good if not better. Only diff I noticed was that the may version seemed to send a tad more vcore with the same exact setting I had in bios with 3/17.
C-N - Geez, now you're really adding some funk into the mix! GTLs diff from CPU to CPU seems it might make sense as many people's suggested GTLs don't work at all for me. I need to set mine very low, even as the VTT and NB scale up. Over 500fsb, it's instant bluescreen if my gtls are wrong. mine work well from 58 - 63 for the full range of VTT and NB. For 24/7 500fsb - VTT 1.15 / NB - 1.42 / GTLS 59 59 59 and that is rock stable in OCCT and Orthos for me. When I get up over 580FSB it all needs a couple bumps.
About the drives, haha, I will do a compare with one fresh xp/raptor and see how it goes.
That's why all the different charts are to be used as a starting point only. CPU GTLREF is dependent on the individual board and processor with the NB GTLREF vlaue dependent on the board and NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Tx Praz. Helps me feel more sane about my settings vs others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Praz
Thanks Guys, well i was just testing now, i left my GTLs on stock, VTT on Stock, bumped CPU to 1.4v NB to 1.57v and Ram to 2.35v i can get into windows t 570FSB but after a short while is freezes. All memory settings on auto aswell.
How should i go about working with the GTLs . set them low like mrcape and then see how they go from there, coz what mrcape said happens to me, anything from 1.3v VTT i get BSOD, and also like if i set my GTLs to all 100 and my FSB is like 540FSB also BSOD...
Im running watercooling and its nice cold air coming through my window so i would think temps are well in their range for 600FSB, got a fan blowing over my NB heatsink also ram has fans on them aswell.
Any ideas.
has this board been discontinued its impossible to find in stock in the UK :mad:
will be forced to keep the more expensive DFI x48 and i have no use for the 2x16 PCI-E
the p45 commin soon doubt they be makin any more hey it might be as good lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sem