So are you telling me that the "rule" is VTT max = VCore + 0.1 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Proton
So are you telling me that the "rule" is VTT max = VCore + 0.1 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Proton
thats ok it all about messing with the volts (but been carefull aswell) at the same time i wish someone would help me becuse im overclocking my memory by about 78mhz but i dont know if it will reduce the life span a lot or not i hope my rig will last me about 4-5 years and hopefully i will be getting a gtx 295 soon cant wait :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oztopher
Could you tell me about MCH Frequency Latch and System Memory Multiplier ?
I can't understand them.
I only know about dividers.
1:1 Synchronous mode ( eg FSB: 400 --> MEMORY 800)
Asynchronous using other dividers (1/2. 4/5 etc)
you too mate :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
i'm on my way to the 4900 :D
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9766/spi16.jpg
Cheers :up:
Sergio
Managed to get 1600mhz somewhat stable at 1.96v bios set, lowered the ref's to 0.71 (easytune set). Tried 1700mhz cas 8, but was impossible almost.
ive been trying to get 32m stable at 5ghz too but so far no luck.i got it toQuote:
Originally Posted by coop
make it to the 21st iteration and then the error message.so i uped the vcore
and it only ran for about 2 test's and error.strange.ill keep trying though,i really want to get that 32m down:D
Wow this thread has really grown since I was here last....... glad to see it's still live and kicking.
I'm working with a Q9650 and a UD3P. I'm asking if there are any special or commonly used settings for high FSB (500+).
I'm at 9x500 right now but can't go any higher. Haven't really changed any settings other than:
CPU PLL
CPU Termination
DRAM Voltage
MCH Core
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The RaT
Maybe these will help you a little bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by HousERaT
This one is good for up to 540 FSB for me.Code:Robust Graphics Booster - FAST
CPU Clock Ratio - 9X
CPU Host Frequency - 545 or 556
PCI Express Frquency - 100 Going higher seems to help a little.
C.I.A.2 - Disabled
CPU Clock Drive - 1000mV
PCI Express Clock Drive 1000mV
Clock skews are all set to 0PS.
****DRAM Performance Control****
Performance Enhance - Standard
Extreme Memory Profile - Disabled
(G) MCH Frequency Latch - 400MHz
System Memory Multiplier - 2.00
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual
>>>Sandard Timing Control<<<
CAS Latency Time - 6
tRCD - 6
tRP - 6
tRAS - 18
>>>Advanced Timing Control<<<
tRRD - 15
tWTR - 15
tWR - 31
tRFC - 255
tRTP - 15
Command Rate - 3
>>>>Channel A Timing Settings
Static tRead Value - 15
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel A Driving Settings
Driving Strength Profile - OC-1200
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel B Timing Settings
Same as Chanel A.
>>>>Channel B Driving Settings
Same as Channel A.
****Motherboard Voltage Control****
>>>>CPU
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Vcore - 1.60000V
CPU Termination - 1.660V
CPU PLL - 1.810V
CPU Reference - 1.036V
>>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core - 1.660V
MCH Reference - 1.051V
MCH/DRAM Refence - 0.920
ICH I/O - 1.750V
ICH Core - 1.300V
>>>DRAM
DRAM Voltage - 2.100V
DRAM Termination - 1.050V
Channel A Reference - 1.050V
Channel B Reference - 1.050V
CPU Features are all Disabled.
I'm sure it can be done with lower voltage than I used, I was just a little too lazy to try.:up:Code:CPU Clock Drive - 1000mV
PCI Express Clock Drive -1000mV
****DRAM Performance Control****
Performance Enhance - Standard
Extreme Memory Profile - Disabled
(G) MCH Frequency Latch - 400MHz
System Memory Multiplier - 2.00
DRAM Timing Selectable - Manual
>>>Advanced Timing Control<<<
All set manually to Defaults
>>>>Channel A Timing Settings
Static tRead Value - 11 or 12 going higher can help out a lot.
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel A Driving Settings
Driving Strength Profile - OC-1200
Everything else is Auto.
>>>>Channel B Timing Settings
Same as Chanel A.
>>>>Channel B Driving Settings
Same as Channel A.
****Motherboard Voltage Control****
>>>>CPU
Load Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU Vcore - 1550000V
CPU Termination - 1.460V
CPU PLL - 1.610V
CPU Reference - 0.924V
>>>>MCH/ICH
MCH Core - 1.600V
MCH Reference - .964V
MCH/DRAM Refence - 1.100V It doesn't seem to matter much
ICH I/O - 1.650V
ICH Core - 1.200V
>>>DRAM
DRAM Voltage - 2.100V
DRAM Termination - 1.050V
Channel A Reference - 1.050V
Channel B Reference - 1.050V
wow, your almost there. I am not even close yet. 32m @ 5g's would be sweet though. especially on air. I need to get busy.Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
I raised vcore a notch. (That is both cores no waz.)
**[IMG]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1101/32m5k.jpg[/IMG]
This is from research conducted. In this case, I believe it was advice given by LSDMEASAP at the Tweaktown Gigabyte support site. I regard LSDMEASAP as the the Subject Matter Expert on this and othe Gigabyte boards. Other folks on that site are good as well, but he is, to me, the most credible source I have found.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebluemeanie1
awesome coop and with a great vcore:DQuote:
Originally Posted by coop
man i got to get this to work(32m at 5ghz):D
Thanks you very much. I'll try this now that I'm home. I'll let you know how it turns out. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by thebluemeanie1
first test with old batch Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB but i think i have to tune the timmings better, its my first test with 2x1GB in this mobo
sorry i added the memset screen later as i forgot
i gave 2,3Vdimm to get that speed with a fan over them
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/156/spi18.jpg
Cheers :up:
Sergio
Sergio:
Nice man but only 2.3v on D9? They are teasing you from the slot saying "that's all you got old man" ;))))))
arent this crucial known for die fast ? thats why i gave only 2,3, do you think i can go for more ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jor3lBR
Cheers
Sergio
I think, you can gou about 2.5V with additional cooling;)today I was testing Crucial Ballistix with D9 with 2.5V but it didn't fit in ASUS Commando and it went with 620MHz (effective 1240MHz):shrug:
I've finally took the leap and got myself a EP45.. I'm hoping you guys could give me some oc pointers regarding this board.. I have the EP45-UD3L. as it's a cheap build with backup parts, and then will become my parents as they need one.
for now, here's what I've got on this. UD3L, with a Q6600 1.21 VID L737, with OCZ Blade PC2-8500, and it seems to be holding up just fine. I'm pretty impressed with the EP45 so far, I've managed on only my second try to get 3.33 Ghz 1112 MHz RAM with 1.21 vcore and 2.15 on ram and it's looking pretty stable with OCCT so far. I'm impressed.
New BIOS:
GA-EP45T-UD3R - F7a
GA-EP45-UD3P - F10b
GA-EP45-UD3R - F10c
No info.
Seems to have new AHCI ROM.....
Guys, where's the motherboard temperature die on the board? Just wondering.....
I got a new video card and my motherboard temps went up like 2C, seems like the motherboard temp die is somewhere near the video card and getting some of the heat. Thanks!
BTW, nice OC's Sergio and Radaja and coop!!:up::up::up:
thanks Xzulu. the temp sensor
seems to be near the SB area,so the makes
sense that temps went up a bit
Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
GA-EP45-UD3R - F10c
Does NOT have new AHCI ROM :(
Sucks for us.
Finally got 4.3 stable- 50 loops of intel burn, all day prime 95 but want more
Can boot and run at 4.5, just cant pass any stress tests
Heres where I'm at now:
cpu 9x500
vcore 1.375
term 1.34
ppl 1.5
ref .848
mch
core 1.4
ref .888
Mem 333, 2.0b standard
5/5/5/15
2.12
1.06
all others auto
heres my system:
ep45 ud3r f9
q9650, lapped
true lapped w/ ultra kaze 2ks in push-pull, as5
nb, mosfets all have upgraded hs/fan
muskin 1066- 4x2g=8g ( 3g in ramdisk) w/ hsf
corsair 750w
4870x2 @800/1000
case has 6 ultrakaze 2ks, very well vented
2 wd 640g black in raid 0
windows 7 64 bit
tired of waiting on the ocz 1200 blades to come in, dunno why i cant get a good clock now at 2.0b
i know i need to do something about cooling, not in the budget atm- intel burn is tickling 90 now with ambient 28-29 here, nb 93 loaded
ive gone up, down and sideways in bios, im at a loss where to go
all the big kids can get 4.5- i wanna run it too- help!!
thx
enough with IB and P95. if I saw 90 (70) I'd freak. I have a suggest for 9x500. Bump cpu ref up a notch then another if that don't work. Keep all else the same. Maybe mch a couple notches too. (1.44?) Quite a load of ram there.
*********I was going over the above and was thinking of what I was using. Don't do that. For 1.34vtt try cpu ref of .903 or up a notch. Then your mch ref seems high already. Try .808 You may need more mch core like I mentioned due to ram. Which brings me to here. You won't be able to boot with 333, 2.0 with 5/5/5/15. You will need 4/4/4/12. Also 400 will be best start.
also your NB is way too hot (93c)Quote:
Originally Posted by kahuna321
Hey thanks for the heads up! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
I'll try to put a fan in that area.
Im booting with the setting I listed.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
I will try your reccomendations for ref now, then try mem at 4/4/4/12, but dont think it will run that fast. Will also try 400 (d), but only have 1066 so will have to run it at 800- it wont go much over 1130 so 1200 is out with these muskins...
thanks
realize im too hot, will do water when i can afford- other than stress testing it doesnt run that hot. gaming it only runs 62-65nb and 60-61 cpu, but 4870 luv the air and runs at 60 maxed out so im good there
I figured I would play with the xeon some tonight. I had a 9.298 but got greedy and lost it :mad:, im still playing with it so maybe ill get it again or just try for higher.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...tmapImage6.jpg
Nice X3380 Hoss :slobber: , when you get tired of it please borrow it to me so I can give it a go too :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
How does it compare to the Q9650 at 5Ghz?
You should get below 9.2s on the X3380 I got that with my Q9650 with slower speeds (4900Mhz):
http://i44.tinypic.com/t7o4g3.jpg
Got it back. Yea it should be able to go lower but im currently using my everyday untweaked win7. Do you have any OS tweaks you want to share? :up:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...tmapImage7.jpg
Nice to see Jor3lBR posting a 1M run on XP. I was working on beating his Vista time but even my best was .010 seconds slower.
Only two Pi 1M tweaks I can think of that make major differences are use Windows XP and F4-4 BIOS if you are using the EP45-UD3P.
How big of a difference with F4-4?
The only thing I can think of was the XP (better then my W7 run) I didn't do anything different. Same config but with fresh XP install and defraged.
I didn't do a very good comparision but it seemed to be a little better than .1 seconds. Vista to XP is a very nice gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
hmmm.. I think I have an old 32bit xp disk around here some where.
Tried another 30+ combinations, now at the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by kahuna321
cpu
vcore 1.375
term 1.32
pll 1.5
ref .891
mch
core 1.38
ref .836
higher cpu ref seems to help to a point, and lower mch ref does too. tried 1.28-1.36 term, 1.32 seems most stable of all
not the fastest super p'is, but at least passes one round of intel burn.
suggestions?
Can someone post a 1m pi close to 9.2xx @ 4900?
With a DUO or Quad? If you want a Quad I just posted one on the other page 9.21s...Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
If you have your quad in can you run another? Are they that much faster than duo's? I can get 9.234 but it is not very close to 4900.
for superpi there is no speed difference between quads and duos
Jor3lBR's 4.9Ghz just uses incrediblely tight timings from the looks of it.
Maybe this willl help, it isn't exactly 4900 but pretty close.
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n..._untitled1.jpg
Using the F4-4 BIOS I had the time down to 9.329 at 1Mhz FSB lower.
You guys have some really nice chips :slobber: and those Super Pi runs are awesome :clap:, I get somewhat envious cause my chip do only ~4,7GHz :( and 1M @ 9,750.
Keep up the good work guys :up:
[QUOTE=thebluemeanie1;3886315]Jor3lBR's 4.9Ghz just uses incrediblely tight timings from the looks of it.
5/6/6/18? 1m's are rather straight forward. A couple tenths is huge.
The best I could get at 4905:
[IMG]http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4206/914221m4905.jpg[/IMG]
Even at 5015 I could only get 9.234
[IMG]http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2439/912341m5015.jpg[/IMG]
so Ghostleader I pmed pangingIII and he blew me off. Didnt reply. I think he rigged his memory OC. I shot him a PM again we will see if he blows me off again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
Thats nice nothing for the EP45t-ud3p
What do you think would happen if I flashed the ep45t-ud3r f7a bios to a ep45t-ud3p?
you would ruin your board
If that board is like the P 1.32 vtt will not set, its either 1.30 or 1.34. If you select 1.32 in bios then in windows pull up ET6 it comes up 1.30. If you try to set 1.32 in ET6 it will still drop down to 1.30.Quote:
Originally Posted by kahuna321
Chill hank123, just because he didnīt answer your PM donīt make him a bad guy, maybe heīs occupied by a lot of work or are on a holiday or maybe he has a policy to never answer on PM, just answer questions in threads, maybe we never gonna know but either way, in my opinion we have to respect what ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by hank123
BTW, how is your progress with the EP45T? Iīm back with me RE and are determent to make my 2x2 Transcend to work @ 1800C8
:D Nobody said it would be easy. Sometimes is just a combination of MHZ and Timings that the hardware will shine, that's when less is more on those benches. But there is no manual in how to achieve that, only sweating.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
Well I ca't run the Q9650 right now, my UD3P is on RMA so it has to wait. Summer ruined my Cryo-Z runs :-( Too much humidity.
I run other SuperPi's back then an always close to 9.2. Now I want to get 9.1! :up: Maybe with the Extreme, this board is better the UD3P especially on 32m runs my best on UD3P was 9m.50s and Extreme did it in 9m.35s...
Try experimenting with the different Luna themes. The silver was the best one for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
I've ran thousands of Pi runs. please. Probably seen close to the same. Show me something.
[IMG]http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4207/32m9148.jpg[/IMG]
Lol CooP you're so competitive :DQuote:
Originally Posted by coop
Well I don't have anything to show really, all I know I post and help others, there is no need for me to play games or hide things.
I lost my best 32m run SS but I have the half pic and I can assure you it's for real:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2r7amwo.jpg
I will redo some runs with the EP45-Extreme soon.
[QUOTE=Jor3lBR;3887279]Lol CooP you're so competitive :D"
I wish I was. Just something about suggesting that 9.2@4900 is "normal" or even 5000 for that matter. It seems a bit of a stretch. I could not even find one close. Anywhere.
"Well I don't have anything to show really, all I know I post and help others,"
I know you do. I've learned from what you have shared too.
"there is no need for me to play games or hide things."
I'm not saying that you are. I think that 1m ran in 9.219sec though is hard to believe. If someone can back it up please pm me as to what it takes. Just a question, is it possible that you were clocking up to do some runs, then came back down and in the elation of such a great run, did the screen? (I actually don't even know if that is possible) Honest mistake if so. Also, great 32m at 4860. That is easily recognized. peace.
Hi guys :D
I could do with some help please to get my Q9650 above 4.35GHz please :up:
Here's my template first of all:
*************************************************
Robust Graphics Booster: Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio: 8x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio: 0.5x
**********Clock Chip Control*************************
CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz): 513
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz): 101
C.I.A 2: Disabled
*********Advanced Clock Control**********************
CPU Clock Drive:1000ps
PCI Express Clock Drive: 1000ps
CPU Clock Skew: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew: 50ps
**********DRAM Performance Control***********
Performance Enhance: Turbo
(G) MCH Frequency Latch 333MHz
System Memory Multipler 2.40B
Memory Frequency: 1236MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable: Manual
CAS Latency Time: 5
tRCD: 5
tRP: 4
tRAS: 10
*******Advanced Timing Control***********
tRRD: Auto
tWTR: Auto
tWR: Auto
tRFC: 55
tRTP: Auto
Command Rate (cmd): Auto
DRAM drive strength on both channels is OC-1333 and PL is set as 8.
***********Motherboard Voltage Control*******
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Vcore: 1.4625V
CPU Termination: 1.4000V
CPU PLL: 1.5000V
CPU Reference: 0.916
MCH Core: 1.4000V
MCH Reference: 0.926
MCH/DRAM Reference: 1.25000V
ICH I/O: 1.65000V
ICH Core: 1.2000V
DRAM Voltage: 2.5000V
DRAM Termination: 1.25000V
Channel A Ref: 1.25000V
Channel B Ref: 1.25000V
I've got 2 x 1GB Team Xtreem PC2-10400 and that has passed 1000% HCI Memtest so I know that is alright.
The above settings are blending at the moment in Prime 95 and so far, so good.
The CPU is watercooled and is hitting the mid 70s on P95 Small FFT's with 1.4625V set in the BIOS.
The first concern is that the CPU seems to need too much VCore for some reason. It has a VID of 1.22500.
I was running this CPU in my MFII before and could get 9 * 480 at about 1.40V actual, but on the UD3P, I need to set at least 1.4625V with Load Line Calibration enabled.
Secondly, anything above around 4.35GHz, and one core immediately fails on Small FFT's and same on Blend.
I've had the UD3P for a week and have gone through this wonderful thread and followed many templates and played with all manner of CPU and MCH refs, I've tried the stock 9x multiplier too which has the same results and I've played with the straps too.
Any input would be wonderful as to whether I can push this CPU further as I know that 4.5GHz should be easy if I can work out why the CPU is wanting so much VCore.
I don't know if the CPU just gives up after 4.35 GHz as even dropping the multiplier doesn't seem to get past that wall. I know the board is good up to past 513FSB so everything is pointing to the CPU or something I am not setting correctly.
If I play with the CPU or MCH refs, I get 0x000000124 BSODs, total system freezes when Prime Blending or immediate failures in P95. I've lowered VTT and it hasn't made any difference and the same goes for higher PLL and raising/lowering VMCH.
Cheers guys :up:
Hey Krich, I'll see if I can give you a hand. First, I don't have a Quad so your ahead of me there. I can give you a couple suggestions you can see if they help or not. Until you get some stability at the higher speed set the ram timing to 5/5/5/15. Change it back later. The vdimm seems a bit high as well. I know that is good ram but I don't know if it needs that much esp. at this speed. For 1.4vtt, your mch ref seems high also. By a fair amount. Have you tried increasing the PLL to 1.57v when you try to boot at 4.3 or above? All these things on mine need to be "together". It takes some time but when you get things closer maybe you can get a bit lower vcore. Maybe someone with a Quad can help with your mch core or something relating to what I mentioned.
KRich,
My xeon has the same 1.225 vid so give these settings a try. I ran a quick prime to check these settings and had no errors. Also what kind of water cooling do you have, those temps seems pretty high for water with that voltage. Mine with 1.4625 bios only comes up to 60c under small fft with 25c ambient.
Code:******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)******
Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto ]
CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0 ]
CPU Frequency 4.365GHz..........................[ 485 x 9.0]
******Clock Chip Control******
CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 485 ]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 101 ]
C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ]
******Advanced Clock Control******
CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 800mv ]
PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv ]
CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ]
MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps ]
******DRAM Performance Control******
Performance Enhance.............................[ Standard ]
(G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 266 ]
System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.50A ]
Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1212 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ]
CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ]
tRCD............................................[ 5 ]
tRP.............................................[ 4 ]
tRAS............................................[ 10 ]
******Advanced Timing Control******
tRRD[3].........................................[ auto ]
tWTR[3].........................................[ auto ]
tWR[6]..........................................[ auto ]
tRFC[54]........................................[ 55 ]
tRTP[3].........................................[ auto ]
Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ auto ]
******Channel A Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 8 ] ................[ 8 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel A Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Timing Settings******
Static tRead Value [ 8 ] ................[ 8 ]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 6 ] ................[ Auto ]
tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 5 ] ................[ Auto ]
tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto ]
Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ]
DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ]
******Channel B Driving Settings******
Drive Strength Profile..........................[ 1200 ]
Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ]
Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ]
clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ]
******Motherboard Voltage Control******
Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ]
CPU Vcore [ 1.15 ]...................[ 1.400 ]
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.300 ]
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.500 ]
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.848 ]
MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.380 ]
MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.863 ]
MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.250 ]
ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500 ]
ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.100 ]
DRAM Voltage [ 1.800 ]...................[ 2.500 ]
DRAM Termination [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.250 ]
Channel A Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.250 ]
Channel B Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ 1.250 ]
******Advanced BIOS Features******
Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ]
No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]
CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]
C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ]
CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ]
CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ]
Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
nothing. I tried for hours to get anything to post. even using easy tune i cant get ram speeds up very high. I thing the highest I got to post and go into windows was around 1648mhz. And this is on good ram that is rated at 1600Mhz 7-7-7-18 @1.9V On the bugged 3;5 divider I think i can go higher but its just total junk so no point in trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostleader
I think a new bios will come out. It might do the trick.
Oh and I think we might see a new bios (this week...maybe) soon. We will find out
Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input and advice. Thanks so much for your time :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
I tried the template you provided Hoss331 and firstly, my RAM doesn't seem to like the 2.50A multiplier at all as the system BSOD's during Windows load up and also HCI Memtest in DOS hangs. I've noticed this on all my testing over the past week and it is irrelevant to settings.
I therefore used the 2.40B multiplier and also tried the 2.66D and used all the settings as you suggested.
What I found is that Core 4 on Small FFT's fails immediately or within 1 to 2 minutes. It is either with a Rounding Error or a Fatal Error about resulting sums being different.
I brought into play with coop also kindly suggested and utilised this into the template and my own template too, but unfortunately, I didn't gain any stability.
I checked the +12v line with a DMM as Everest indicates that there is over 200W being drawn by the CPU and at maximum load, the DMM reads 12.17 which means the PSU is probably not a factor. It is an OCZ GamerXtreme 700W.
The water cooling is an Apogee GTX and an MCW55 with a MCW-655 pump and MCRES-Micro. It isn't done the nicest as it was my first proper water cooling project but a day ago, I did clean the rad out and get rid of all the dust, so temps did go down to what I quoted earlier.
Anything else you can offer by the way of settings or advice would be welcomed and valued :up:
Cheers everyone :D
Hey KrichQuote:
Originally Posted by KRich
2.05A its a sucker for me, my gskills PI 1200 love 2.04B, but blades go fine on the other multis...i also tried other sets and seems the same...inmo try to stick to 2.04B and tune it.
other thing...try to make first your CPU stable as its failing on SmallFFT wich test mainly CPU, then dig on the mems
Cheers and best of the lucks
Sergio
Cheers Sergio :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
You're quite right. I am only trying with SmallFFTs now because I have found that if the SmallFFTs are not stable, it is failing on Blend right away too.
I had it running 4.4GHz with 1.47 actual and it failed after 2hrs 30mins on Small FFTs. I can't work out why this CPU wants so much more VCore than it should require.
well yes that happens not all CPU are the same but if you pump vcore and its cold...i have a Q9650 low vid 1,1875 and im in water and still limits me for temps so there's some point you have to stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by KRich
what temps are reporting at that vcore on LOAD SmallFFT ?
Cheers mate
Sergio
Cheers buddy :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
You're right indeed. I am getting low to mid 70s with running SmallFFT at that VCore so perhaps that is the problem.
The thing I find odd is that I know I was running 485 x 9 on the MFII and SmallFFT was 12+ hours stable at 1.40V set in the BIOS and on that board GTL 1 and 3 set at -45mv.
I don't know why I seem to require 0.05V more for the same speed on the UD3P. I know it isn't the board because I can run pretty much good at 515FSB with the 8.5 multiplier and though it isn't 12+ hours stable yet, it is getting there with tweaking. That is something the MFII couldn't do.
I guess I was hoping that the CPU would also fly, not just the FSB :D
Where can these be found? Not on giga site??Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/ :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
KRich,
I think you need to work on your cooling first. With the temps getting that high its going to be harder to get a good clock. What rad are you using?
Cheers buddy :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
I am using a Swiftech MCR220.
You're right about the temps as when I up the VCore one notch from the 2hr run, it fails immediately in Prime so it has to be the temps.
Even at 1.37 actual I am pushing around 70 degrees and 1.34 actual is around 64 degrees.
Oh yea, you need a bigger rad. That 220 is hard pressed to cool that cpu and graphics card effectively.
:confused:
Hi , second you these voltages for the day use, are good or you can cause damages?
Sorry for my english...:up:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9895/4300.th.jpg
You can probably drop PLL down to 1.50, but other than that they look fine.
Cheers :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
Any idea whether one of those stackable 220s would do the same as there is no room for a 3 x 120 at all as I don't want the rad outside the system and inside, even in my CM Stacker, there isn't any space to have a 3 x 120 internally.
I guess I could add another 2 x 120 rad so I could have two in one loop - How would that be for temps?
Cheers :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
If I come down to 1,5 they give me error prime 95 after an hour on Core..:(
When I first put my board together my temps were about 70 even at default. The problem was the H2O block was on the edge of one of the caps keeping it raised slightly. My block is from an Opteron type socket so it could be larger and it may be obvious this could not be an issue for your setup. seating good?
Cheers buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop
Truth be told, this WC setup has always been underperforming - Even my E8600 used to get up past 75 degrees celsius.
The seating is good. In fact, I got new screws from Swiftech because the old ones were worn down and I thought that was causing poor contact. However, the new screws are in and the mounting is good as I can tell when the block is removed.
The rad is getting warm to hot and there are good fans on it so I think it looks like the rad can't perhaps cope :eek:
The stacker add-on will help but not as good as two separate rads or one large rad. If you have room for 2 separate rads id go that route, also might want to into getting some better fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by KRich
I think I will add another 120.2 to the loop as it will be easier to do in my CM Stacker STC-T01 than a single 120.3. I've got the current 120.2 on the floor of the case which is getting fresh air from the through the mesh at the bottom and then I can add another 120.2 at the front which can get fresh air through the mesh there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
I think the 1 x MCW-655 will be good enough for both rads as I don't think I have room for two separate loops.
Cheers buddy :up:
Trying for 488x9 stable, I keep getting this "a clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval" BSOD, but strangely IBT can pass 20 times and no errors in Prime 95 result log before BSOD.
Settings
*************************************************
Robust Graphics Booster: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio: 0.0x
**********Clock Chip Control*************************
CPU Host Clock Control: Enabled
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz): 488
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz): 100
C.I.A 2: Disabled
*********Advanced Clock Control**********************
CPU Clock Drive:1000ps
PCI Express Clock Drive: 1000ps
CPU Clock Skew: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew: 50ps
**********DRAM Performance Control***********
Performance Enhance: Turbo
(G) MCH Frequency Latch 333MHz
System Memory Multipler 2.40B
Memory Frequency: 1171MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable: Manual
CAS Latency Time: 5
tRCD: 6
tRP: 5
tRAS: 15
*******Advanced Timing Control***********
tRRD: Auto
tWTR: Auto
tWR: Auto
tRFC: 54
tRTP: Auto
Command Rate (cmd): Auto
DRAM drive strength on both channels is OC-1200 and PL is set as 10.
***********Motherboard Voltage Control*******
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Vcore: 1.425V
CPU Termination: 1.3400V
CPU PLL: 1.5000V
CPU Reference: 0.848V
MCH Core: 1.400V
MCH Reference: 0.888
MCH/DRAM Reference: 1.14000V
ICH I/O: 1.57000V
ICH Core: 1.2000V
DRAM Voltage: 2.2800V
DRAM Termination: 1.14000V
Channel A Ref: 1.14000V
Channel B Ref: 1.14000V
Is this because vdiim is too low?
hey Rich, ya it sounds like that water loop is for sure under performing. as I have my Q9650 at 4.0 Ghz with 1.304v and it idles under 30c and loads around 38c.. and when I've moved up to like 4.25 Ghz and stuff of that sort, and used even 1.38v or sometimes more, It's still never went over 35 or so c idle and I've never seen over low 51 or 52c yet..
not only is a better rad going to help, but what type of fans are on the case, are they the stock fans, you might need some better airflow on the case, and I'd actually say loose the stackable idea, and just get a really good 120.3 as it would perform better than stackable 120.2's... I'd throw a Feser TFC 360 outside the top of the case, and I bet your temps will be much better, or a XSPC RX360, but if you have to use a 120.2. I'd say either get another and stack, or try a top of the line 120.2 like the Feser.. they are great rads.. and use a good fan, one of the best RAD fans are the S-Flex fans. also try a reseat, or have you done that plenty of times.
hey, ive recently got hold of a UD3R and an E8400, seems pretty stable at the moment at 3.6, but whenever i try to push it further i get bsods quite frequently. Im not sure which settings i have to change to get it stabled at 4ghz - would be ideal for me, so im looking for a template for 4ghz if anyone has one.
Here are my current settings, (im using a AC 7 pro, 2 x 2gb OCZ 1066 Platinum) @ 3.6: 400 x 9, CPU Voltage 1.3V memory multiplier = 2.00D, DRAM voltage 2.1, all the stuff like speedstep, E1st disabled etc. Everything else at auto.
Now, when i try and go for 4ghz i use 450 x 9, i up cpu voltage to 1.4V, and leave everything else at auto seeing as im not really sure what i have to change to get it stable. Anyways, with these settings i can get into windows fine, but when i load a game / program i get random BSODS :(
Any help or templates much appreciated, thanks!
@ radaja ... what vid is your cpu? I think I have the oportunity to buy a good E8400 Q841A171 ... I found here on xs that kemo has one Q841A200 that is vid 1.2125 (so pretty close to the one I can buy as fpo ) and kemo's one does 4200 @ 1.22 :D. Waiting for the seller to confirm the vid of the cpu :P. Hope it is 1.2125 and that is as good or even better than yours :p: ... I want part of the fun u are having :P
and anyone who has E8400 FPO/BATCH Q841A171 or fpo close to this please share ur experiences :)
Hey buddy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
I've done a reseat many a time across all the boards and CPUs I have had and really, the temps are usually like this.
I had my E8600 up to the high 80s and that was stable at 4.5GHz though but I have seen a lot of mention that the Q9650s aren't so forgiving and that they need to be kept under 65 degrees celsius.
I believe that the MCR-220 is good to dissipate upto 250 to 300W and if Everest is correct, the CPU is throwing out over 220W and when you add the HD4870 which apparently throws out over 100W at stock, you can see that the problem was obvious but I didn't see it until Hoss331 pointed it out.
I was actually going to add NB/SB and perhaps also Mosfet blocks to the same loop :rofl: until I read the replies I got here :up:
The fans in use are the stock ones which came with the MCR-220 as I got it as part of a Swiftech WC kit nearly 3 years back so each fan is capable of 75CFM each.
Thanks for all the tips and input which is very useful and will help alot. I am planning an overhaul as we speak and once temps are under control, I'll be sure to get the Q9650 higher :clap:
Hi all. I've quietly lurked this thread for a long time and decided to register to ask for some help. I've got a q9300 M1 stepping and have tried to break the 3600 mark with little success. I've sort of given up on overclocking for the time being to try and figure out my temperature problems. I'm running an XSPC 360 radiator in an ATCS 840 case (2x 120mm pushing and 2x 230mm pulling). Is there any reason to believe that my idle temps of 50,45,50,50 are reasonable in this setup @ stock speeds? I hit about 62-65 C at load, which I find astonishing for my WC setup. Things get only slightly worse as I overclock - hitting about 67 C at load max. From what I've seen in this thread, nobody even comes close to these temps for a quad on water. What do you guys think? Faulty CPU or mobo?
-- EDIT --
Well I was able to put in my stock air cooler and my temps are as follows
57/52/58/58 Idle
80/72/80/81 Load
At least i know my water cooling was working. SHEESH! haha, burning up here!
I'm pretty sure the sensors on this CPU are faulty. The waterblock and this stock heatsink are barely warm to the touch.
I've switched out the 2 x 75CFM fans for a 1 x 120CFM and 1 x 100CFM (didn't have matching fans :ROTF:) just to see what difference it made, and it took SmallFFT load temps down about 4 to 5 degrees celsius so now, after 10 mins of running, Core 1 & 2 have hit a maximum of 69 degrees and Core 3 & 4 have hit a maximum of 72 degrees celsius which though a lot better than the over 80 - 85 degrees celsius I was getting a day or two back, isn't yet good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by KRich
I read that my VGA can be pulling 200W at idle in Vista with Aero enabled so if the CPU is pulling over 200W during Small FFT's, that is over 400W that this MCR-220 is trying to dissipate so clearly that is causing the high temps.
Thanks for all the input and advice everyone :up:
mine is vid 1.237vQuote:
Originally Posted by kagula323
btw i flashed to that bios and did not find anything new on performance or something just work as my old bioses...Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
Cheers
Sergio
Ok... I was hoping there was somehow some magic in that bios...
Hey Rich, is your rad really hot to the touch? For those temps I would expect a very warm rad at the least. If it's not warm, you might be getting some issues with contact and/or flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by KRich
Hey bud, no I wouldn't say it is really hot. The top part by the barbs and the bottom are fairly warm but I can keep my hands there without getting burnt :D The sides are luke warm at best. It could be the flow because the tubing was done absolutely awfully without any thought :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Injuis
lulz, your vga wont be pulling 200W with only aero going....no frikin way. Your GPU may not pull 200W fully loaded. Maybe with an overclock and loaded sure. But aero? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by KRich
I'm going by this review which did the card I have and showed idle power consumption with Aero as 200WQuote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...lden-sample/11
I've read that the HD4870 at idle pulls around 170W so I am not sure if I am misinformed :shrug:
Thats HD 4870+ rest of the system, not just gpu alone. HD 4870 load by itself only uses up 120-130W I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by KRich
Not too long ago I ran a very similar setup as KRich's. Instead of a swiftech rad i was using a dangerden gt 260. Even then, I was using low cfm fans on a rad designed for high cfm fans. I even had my NB in the loop and ran my system just fine. And since you already said that your rad was barely warm, I'm inclined to think contact/flow issues in your setup or maybe you have a q9xxx processor with jacked up sensors (like my own)Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidReactor
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidReactor
That would be around 350W with the CPU then - Everest reads 220W for the CPU plus around 120-130W for the HD 4870 which is pushing a MCR-220 according to what I read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Injuis
You've raised an interesting point Injuis - Something I will look into - Cheers :up:
Sorry for going OT with all this cooling stuff guys
So I've opted to give Gigabyte another chance despite past issues with their boards and their customer service. Now I have this board as part of my back-up rig running Q66 @3.2GHz with 1.28v 4GB PC-6400 @800Mhz but PC will not go to sleep. When I attempt to put it into sleep mode it goes in an infinite boot cycle running bios F7 only way to get out of it is to unplug power supply, but..... wait there's more once I plug back in and power on PC it starts as if it coming out of sleep "resuming windows" Need help with this issue, any and all advice is appreciated.
Anyone have any experience with these?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231271
Thanks
I think they have just been released. If there using the same chips as the lv blades they had better be bad ass for $50+ more.
Had this issue with mine. I just disabled the sleep. I know that doesnt help but....Quote:
Originally Posted by buddatech
Go to BIOS and on 'Power Management Setup' > ACPI Suspend Type > change that option from S3 to S1. Problem solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by buddatech
Ive waited for weeks and newegg still doesnt have any, and search doesnt find any anywhere either, Is there anywhere that has these in stock?
I would like to get the OCZs instead of the lv g.skills for $50 more- Ocz supposedly has better customer support. I've had issues with a major manufacturer's support lately, and though I almost never need support it sucks when the support is terrible! If interested I'd be glad to share, generally dont flame but this is a case of buyer beware...
Thanks
UPDATE: Bit the bullet and got the g.skill lv 9600s- checked and they qualify for neweggs 30 day return and are supposed to have lifetime mftrs warranty. Will post when they are up and stressing... Been awhile and I forget- do I have to clear cmos when switching memory?
i have a few PM's concerning how i go about overclocking DDR3 ram on my EP45T-UD3R?
it was Crucial value 2x2GB ram kit with Micron D9JNM IC's that i used, i found the ram clocks very well on the boards.
also, i saw friends of mine running Crucial value 3x1GB (that comes with Micron D9JNM IC's), they did overclocking the ram to DDR3-2100MHz+ (on the EP45T-UD3R's) with low volts like 1.86-1.92v.
my experience with the EP45T-UD3R, i used to try a few kits with Micron D9GTR and D9GTS IC's, they did not overclock very well at all on my board, even with high volts.
anyways, i'm sorry i could not be more help. as far as i can remember i did post my voltage settings, i'm not sure what can i do to help you more.
Hi pangingIII, long time no see.
I couldnīt get hold on any 2x2 D9JNM, got some 2x2 D9KPT but they didnīt OC as good as yours and the same as you, my EP45T donīt like my 2x1 D9GTR neither.
I saw that you had some fun with a Xeon and DFI UT X58, great OC :clap:
It is recommended to do so. I have personally experienced issues when I did not. It ensures all the sub-timings for the memory and the MCH are set properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by kahuna321