Thermochill PA140.3 Prototype Pics

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02-16-2009, 07:29 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

140mm rads do NOT fit within 5.25" bays
02-16-2009, 07:32 PM
shazza

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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

140mm rads do NOT fit within 5.25" bays

True, but it's possible to remove the bays in some cases ...

Why don't you design a prototype case for 140mm rads ?
02-16-2009, 07:37 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazza

True, but it's possible to remove the bays in some cases ...

Why don't you design a prototype case for 140mm rads ?

This I can do, however, it is easier just to use a v2010 or the like :\

I will make a prototype for you all :) it may be rough and a few days though.

the below pic is a gtx 420 in p80 drive bays
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3984/perma6vn7.jpg
02-16-2009, 07:40 PM
Boogerlad

pa140.3 specs are most likely 150x480*50mm i think.
02-16-2009, 07:45 PM
Fragger

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinm210

I've never been afraid to run my rads external, constraining your system to all internal is a good way to impose unnecessary constraints. Some folks like the challenge of an all internal system build, I've never had the patience myself. I want something that performs well and very easy to maintain. I've had case enclosed rads before, and they have always been a nightmare to keep clean especially if they are tucked away somewhere. The exterior mounts on the other hand can be as big as you want and easy to take care of.

With blocks and flow rate performance differences getting so tight these days, adding excessive rad capacity is an easy means to real gains and it goes hand in hand with silence if you want both silence and top performance, you need alot of radiator.

Here Here!
02-16-2009, 08:35 PM
Martinm210

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Originally Posted by skinnee

I just finally get to testing the 120.3 and they go and ready a 140.3...think my wife will notice the missing money from her hobby fund? :ROTF:

LOL!

I can hear it now:

"But honey, it's for the good of the order, "People" want to know, "I" want to know, Don't you care about anyone but "YOURSELF!!:mad:"". Hours later your thinking...:rolleyes:"What a bad idea, I KNEW I should have bought the EXTRA LARGE dog house"...:confused:.

:D
02-16-2009, 08:48 PM
Groveling_Wyrm

What's really nice about bringing out the 140x??? line, is that this will give us modders even more ability to be creative and find something that works for each of us. I like this. For those of us that can't fit the 140's, then there is always a GOOD selection of 120x??? stuff on the market. Even better is that TC is pushing for even more performance by revamping the 120.3. This is yet another evolution, as such was the transition from 80mm to 120mm fans. This bodes well for the industry.

It's good to see progress like this!!!
02-16-2009, 08:49 PM
eXa

It doesnt fit in the drive bays? if so thats a huge screw up. A drive bay is 147mm, my 140mm fans fit without problems at all...
02-16-2009, 08:52 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXa

It doesnt fit in the drive bays? if so thats a huge screw up. A drive bay is 147mm, my 140mm fans fit without problems at all...

yes but the rad is always wider than the fans
02-16-2009, 09:03 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinm210

I've never been afraid to run my rads external, constraining your system to all internal is a good way to impose unnecessary constraints. Some folks like the challenge of an all internal system build, I've never had the patience myself. I want something that performs well and very easy to maintain. I've had case enclosed rads before, and they have always been a nightmare to keep clean especially if they are tucked away somewhere. The exterior mounts on the other hand can be as big as you want and easy to take care of.

Yeah it does impose more limits but, well, I kinda like a challenge :D Plus I take my PC to lan parties and such, much easier to have it all in one chassis. But I agree, external does give you more options.
02-16-2009, 09:12 PM
Serpentarius

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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Yeah it does impose more limits but, well, I kinda like a challenge :D Plus I take my PC to lan parties and such, much easier to have it all in one chassis. But I agree, external does give you more options.

how could you jack the pc to a LAN party? mine is pretty heavy .. what's your pc's weight?
02-16-2009, 09:13 PM
Conumdrum

Martin, I have to rephrase that. "It's good for the 'larger' order Honey, bigger is better right? I knew you'd understand Honey, thank you Sweety ohh my dream of dreams, you make my life whole."

Thus, I have been married for 24 years and spend like a demon on whatever I want.

Within non-stoopid limits words will make all the diff. Join Toastmasters and learn "Mans SpeechRight". It will almost bypass "Women's Laws" with care and good credit.
02-16-2009, 09:24 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serpentarius

how could you jack the pc to a LAN party? mine is pretty heavy .. what's your pc's weight?

Hmm I don't know, I've never weighed it. It's fairly heavy, maybe 40-ish pounds? Just a (very bad) guess.

Now you got me curious, I'll have to weigh it sometime :lol2:
02-16-2009, 09:57 PM
Locke

HMM I may take this on. I'm itching to build a new case... though I still have to finish my current one. I hope that waterjet guy gets on it soon...
02-16-2009, 10:06 PM
Martinm210

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Yeah it does impose more limits but, well, I kinda like a challenge :D Plus I take my PC to lan parties and such, much easier to have it all in one chassis. But I agree, external does give you more options.

Yeah, I know. I really do admire the system builds I see every day in the worklog forums. There's really another side of this whole hobby in making a piece of art out of all the gear, it takes tons of patience and artistic vision to put everything together like that. It's just not something I ever had the patience to do myself. The best thing in the world for me was going to a tech station (fitting of the tool/function category). Even when I'm not changing a thing, it makes me happy..:up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conumdrum

Martin, I have to rephrase that. "It's good for the 'larger' order Honey, bigger is better right? I knew you'd understand Honey, thank you Sweety ohh my dream of dreams, you make my life whole."

Thus, I have been married for 24 years and spend like a demon on whatever I want.

Within non-stoopid limits words will make all the diff. Join Toastmasters and learn "Mans SpeechRight". It will almost bypass "Women's Laws" with care and good credit.

Yeah, I've got to work on my phrasing, I've always been lacking:eek:. We fixed 99% of our spending issues with his/hers recreational savings accounts that's part of our budget. It's not a huge pot of money, but there's no need for discussion or negotiation and it's amazingly satisfying. Then I don't have to employ my poor choice of words...and the dog house is much more roomy and comfy for our dog..lol:D
02-16-2009, 10:27 PM
eXa

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

yes but the rad is always wider than the fans

147mm is wider than 140mm, there is no reason to why you cant make it 147mm... or 145mm.
02-16-2009, 10:29 PM
Sparky

Not even a half centimeter for each side, probably not enough to make the bend in the metal for the housing and have a solid housing at the same time would be my guess.
02-17-2009, 12:23 AM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

140mm rads do NOT fit within 5.25" bays

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

This I can do, however, it is easier just to use a v2010 or the like :\

I will make a prototype for you all :) it may be rough and a few days though.

the below pic is a gtx 420 in p80 drive bays
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3984/perma6vn7.jpg

SNiiPE, the problem is, you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd996sqXnDw ;):ROTF:

The GT series are, I believe, the widest rads made and when they scaled up to the 140, it was doomed from the outset. They went from 133mm wide to 153mm wide. The PA's are 126mm wide so if TC does the same 20mm add, the PA140 should fit into the 5.25 bays pretty snugly @ 146mm.
02-17-2009, 01:33 AM
iandh

I would definitely consider this or a 2 fan version of it.

Koolance has what look like rebranded Yate 140's but with ball instead of sleeve bearings, so those could be used with this in horizontal mount situations.
02-17-2009, 02:13 AM
WaterFlex

Termochill is back! :up:
02-17-2009, 03:20 AM
The[R]eaper

sooo getting a 120.4. :D
anyone know who is going to be distributing them in the u.s.? or what shops are going to have them?
02-17-2009, 03:44 AM
Smalltimer

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Originally Posted by Lvcoyote

Gilgamesh has received what I believe is the first prototype of the PA140.3 Thermochill Radiator, here are some pictures to enjoy!
http://www.gilgamesh.org.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=239

Finally a RAD worthy of upgrading my PA120.3's with.
Very nice indeed.
thx
02-17-2009, 03:53 AM
G80

Looks great. Will there be a 140.1 and 140.2 too?
02-17-2009, 03:58 AM
Webby

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Originally Posted by eXa

I have a PA120.3 in the front of my stacker STC-01, its cooled by 3 140mm yates, switching to the PA140.3 will be a breese and give me 29% more cooling without changing or moving the fans at all. Thats quite awsome!

Edit: picture *Image snip*

Your performance increase is unlikely to be 29% you will obviously have the additional surface area but the volume of air you are moving with the fans will be the same (assuming your fans are currently shrouded to the rad so all their airflow passes through the rad) I would expect in your case at most a 10% performance boost. The surface area of the rad is only half the story!
02-17-2009, 04:03 AM
Vapor

And even if it were a full 29% increase in 'performance' it would only lower your water-out to air-in delta by 29%.

I'll be generous and split the difference of 29% and 0% and say a 15% increase in water/air delta temps, which is still only ~2C with a starting delta of ~14C (very high for XS configs...most of us are down in the ~3-7C range I'd bet).

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