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11-15-2007, 06:02 PM
situman

Wouldn't it be a better deal to buy the 3850 and overclock the crap out of it?
11-15-2007, 06:05 PM
EvilBellyLint

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Originally Posted by GAR

Let me break it down here, this is my opinion..........

Lets say you do go with the ATi choice, 2x 3870 crossfire, cost is $500 with shipping..............you have $500 worth of Video cards that cannot play some games that were released some time ago at high resolutions with AA/AF....World in Conflict and Crysis.........now the smart thing would be to skip crossfire and get a single card now and wait for january for 2x 3870x2 for quad crossfire, this will give much better results...........now the smartest thing to do now, if you need a video card is to wait and get the 8800gt for a single card setup intill next year, because the $500 you just spent on those 2 video card will be worthless come mid next year.....bad investment......best thing is if you really have to save money, go for 1 3870, if not then 8800GT does come out on top in every single benchmark period. this is all IMO.

actually you can get 2 of the Sapphires from Newegg for only $450 which
includes shipping. And why would they be worthless next year? They won't
be the current State of the Art, but certainly not worthless, no moreso than
an 8800GT will be worthless when the G92-based 8800GTX comes out.

:shrug:

EBL
11-15-2007, 06:07 PM
EvilBellyLint

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

Wouldn't it be a better deal to buy the 3850 and overclock the crap out of it?

Certainly that would be a great bang for the buck. :yepp:

But I have an inkling those of us who picked up 3870's
might just be OCing those as well :D

EBL
11-15-2007, 06:07 PM
grimREEFER

imo, the smart thing would be to either get a single hd3850, or a single 8800gt cause they're both good in their respective price range. if u need more performance, rather than crossfire or sli, i'd actually suggest waiting for the geforce 9 series.
11-15-2007, 06:17 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

Let me break it down here, this is my opinion..........

Lets say you do go with the ATi choice, 2x 3870 crossfire, cost is $500 with shipping..............you have $500 worth of Video cards that cannot play some games that were released some time ago at high resolutions with AA/AF....World in Conflict and Crysis.........now the smart thing would be to skip crossfire and get a single card now and wait for january for 2x 3870x2 for quad crossfire, this will give much better results...........now the smartest thing to do now, if you need a video card is to wait and get the 8800gt for a single card setup intill next year, because the $500 you just spent on those 2 video card will be worthless come mid next year.....bad investment......best thing is if you really have to save money, go for 1 3870, if not then 8800GT does come out on top in every single benchmark period. this is all IMO.

-2, 3870 will cost you roughly $68 less shipped.
-Rumor has it that the dual GPU solution may come as early as this year
-8800GT is still no where to be found.
-Even if the 8800GT was available, it is in limited supply and cost higher then MSRP...
-Most people who invested in crossfire MBs can take advantage of it. It would be a waste not to use CF with video cards this cheap!
-Cat 7.11 should be released in a few days

This is all IMO :up:
11-15-2007, 06:22 PM
HousERaT

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

Wouldn't it be a better deal to buy the 3850 and overclock the crap out of it?

early results are not showing these cards to be huge overclockers.
11-15-2007, 06:25 PM
hstuehmeyer2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousERaT

early results are not showing these cards to be huge overclockers.

yea, the hd 3870's seem to oc alot better
11-15-2007, 06:29 PM
hardrail

It's been said before... It's all about price/performance ratio.
11-15-2007, 06:48 PM
hstuehmeyer2000

unfortunately i just canceled my order for my hd 3870, i was reading some stuff about sapphire and some dude's x1900xt died and they tried to replace it with a x1950pro, i am going to look for a better company to buy from than them, they seem a little shady
11-15-2007, 07:00 PM
Zytek_Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by hstuehmeyer2000

unfortunately i just canceled my order for my hd 3870, i was reading some stuff about sapphire and some dude's x1900xt died and they tried to replace it with a x1950pro, i am going to look for a better company to buy from than them, they seem a little shady

Wait for HIS or Diamond...
11-15-2007, 07:01 PM
hstuehmeyer2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

Wait for HIS or Diamond...

thats the plan
11-15-2007, 07:03 PM
grimREEFER

Quote:

Originally Posted by hstuehmeyer2000

unfortunately i just canceled my order for my hd 3870, i was reading some stuff about sapphire and some dude's x1900xt died and they tried to replace it with a x1950pro, i am going to look for a better company to buy from than them, they seem a little shady

i heard that story too, but u have to keep in mind that the guy in that story was insane. so i still consider sapphire one of the best for amd graphics cards.
11-15-2007, 07:04 PM
zerazax

I bet that Nvidia really wishes they had given SLI to Intel now

So many people everywhere are scooping up 3800's because:

a) They can CrossFire them
b) CrossFireX will support multiple monitors
c) Finally, cards that are priced together that make sense!

I'm amazed how many are going CF w/ the 3800's but its about time
11-15-2007, 07:10 PM
adamsleath

wouldnt they sell more if they were made more available? duh
11-15-2007, 07:16 PM
RickCain

I got my order in within minutes of becoming available on Newegg and went OOS by the time I finished the transaction.

Funny thing is Newegg has been going in stock, out of stock all day and at a great price. They must be constantly getting shipments or have a messed up inventory system. As of 7pm PST, you can still get them from newegg.

$500.00 for two with a copy Crysis = a good weekend of gaming.
11-15-2007, 10:07 PM
NapalmV5

glad got my order just in time

what oc clocks are expected ?
11-15-2007, 10:12 PM
NapalmV5

btw, can i crossfire the 3870 + 2600 ?
11-15-2007, 10:13 PM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

btw, can i crossfire the 3870 + 2600xt ?

Unlikely but you can apparently CF it with a 3850 if you wanted to

And expect clocks up to 860 core / 1250 memory (2500 effective) or thereabouts, thats what most reviews have shown

These cards might need an aftermarket cooling + vmod though and they might be able to hit 900+!
11-15-2007, 10:18 PM
lazy

does anyone know what the prices of the x2 3870 suppose to be?
11-15-2007, 10:28 PM
zerazax

Supposedly 399-499
11-15-2007, 11:15 PM
xenolith

I have a sinking feeling these 3870's won't be $220 after today, more like $250-$260.

Remember the early $230 8800GT deals... before the retailers knew what their real market supply/demand would be?

It really highlights how chronic the high-mainstream vacuum has been.
11-15-2007, 11:41 PM
GAR

These cards are not worth more than $199usd.....
11-15-2007, 11:52 PM
grimREEFER

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

These cards are not worth more than $199usd.....

well they were....until the 8800gt came out lol.
and no game bundles with amd cards?
11-16-2007, 12:01 AM
RPGWiZaRD

Hmm, funny in europe HD 3870 and 8800GT costs about same and in US it's a ~$50 difference. For me HD3870 should be ~50 EUR cheaper in order to maybe concider getting one over a 8800GT.

http://geizhals.at/eu/?fs=hd+3870&x=0&y=0&in= HD3870

http://geizhals.at/eu/?fs=8800+gt&x=0&y=0&in= 8800GT

You're getting price gauged a bit on 8800GT still, at least on newegg. In europe prices never rised from launch, have only slowly but surely lowered. Should be 229~$249 to reflect current EU pricing on 8800GT.
11-16-2007, 12:31 AM
Start

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenolith

I have a sinking feeling these 3870's won't be $220 after today, more like $250-$260.

Remember the early $230 8800GT deals... before the retailers knew what their real market supply/demand would be?

It really highlights how chronic the high-mainstream vacuum has been.

Won't happen.

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