I just try my best http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=160784 But not full load. Cpu S/n ADO3600CU 9142307K60072 and i think it not good code
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I just try my best http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=160784 But not full load. Cpu S/n ADO3600CU 9142307K60072 and i think it not good code
Damn, I get a bit annoyed to see all these great overclocks :p: . Makes me want to buy a new one, but that would just be a waste again... I might be able to get my x2 3800+ stable at 320x9(2880mhz) and 1.6V, it just finished a quick round of transcoding with nero(stresses both cores a lot and freezes quickly if it's not stable), but I'll run a 24 hour Orthos later to see if it's truly stable :)
Still not quite happy with 2.88ghz though, as I have done so much to get it. Popped IHS off, using top of the line water cooling etc. When some of these chips pop right up to 3ghz close with stock volts, it simply looks bad in comparison! :p:
so poor result...Quote:
Originally Posted by newbiehn
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=167678
1.45 vcore
13*c idle ==== 19*c under full load for hours and hours!
A 4800+ and a 12,5 multi? how come?
I'm having trouble getting the Ram to OC real high without having really sloppy timings. Tryin to keep it as tight as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
Yeah but the 4800+ hast 12x200=2400Mhz. You cant have a higher multi than 12.
It's a 65nm Brisbane, stock multi 12.5 x 200 = 2500mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
Stock vcore is also 1.25-1.3
to make up the loss of L2 cache.Quote:
Originally Posted by M411b
anyway...how does a CCBWE 0538XPMW Toledo 110w 4400+ sound...at 1.6v vcore, unstable 2.6 GHz? :stick:
no, my it isn't my RAM. this processor clocks like ASS. my RAM will easily do DDR600 @ 2.5-3-3-7-1T
right now i have a 3 week uptime (windows xp lol) at 2.4 Ghz, 1.475v vcore (set in bios). its stable. anyone want to trade me for an 89w 4400+ haha. :mad:
shame on me! :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by M411b
Well, I consider to chop my IHS off. I already did it with 2 CPU, a Opteron 146 and a X2 3800+
The 146 managed to do 2800Mhz at 1.425V in BIOS. With IHS the 2800Mhz were stable with 1.4V for about 38 Minutes, then there was an error in Prime. Without IHS i had the same result! damn it ...
With my X2 3800 it was the same. 2800Mhz with 1.392V with IHS, the same result without IHS.
So i don't know if i should be satisfied with 2800Mhz and 1.35V with IHS and 3 years warranty. If i chop the IHS off, then get the same result, i would be very angry.
dunno what to do ...
after 2 useless instances of removing IHS i am sure u SHOULD not remove the third :P
Yeah, youre probably right. Smartguardian tells me that the temp is between 37°C and 38°C. Coretemp says 43 core1 and 52 core1.
that's strange..
IHS removed must be alot of drop on cpu temp
my old venice can managed to 3GHz without IHS and only 2,85Ghz with IHS (watercooled)
Yeah for sure there is a temp-drop. It was about 10°C on my x2 3800+ ... but couldn't overclock it more. Dunno why :(
Manchester LDBFE 0633DPMW
1.6 Vcore Watercooled, 52c full load.
EDIT: Forget Vcore, guess I need less then I thought. Went straight to 1.6v, but somebody said, often times you can volt it as much as you like, but still nothing happened, so I backed down the Vcore, and I'm priming with 1.5v now. Much better.
See post :
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=331
1.6V?? For 2700Mhz? Is this stable dude?
This is a heavy load man, for 2.7ghz. I have mine at 2.7 ghz, and I don't have more than 1.4 or 1.425 volt to get there!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
And I have the excact same stepping, revision and all!
LCBIE 0618 EPMW :woot:
2.6GHZ 1.275V (testing)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1374/untitledns8.jpg
My old 0618 EPMW was doing 2800Mhz with 1.35V. How much do you need for 2800Mhz?Quote:
Originally Posted by kemo6600
same 1.34-1.35 didn't do much test , now i want to pull 2.6GHZ with lowest voltage will test with 1.25 this weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
Why don't you go for more?
because i don't need more ATM , i use it only for web surfing + i am running it with freezer 64 and need to keep temp as low as possible , summer is coming and i leave it sometimes in 30+C ambientQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
if i need more i will get tower 120 and go for 3GHZ with 1.45V
I don't think that the 3Ghz will be possible with 1.45V
wana betQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
it is possible with good air cooling
Mine won't do 3 gig even with 1.55V but i can do the 2,8 with only 1.35V ... and i got watercooling ...
well i have to test it myself to make sure :) still i don't need all that powerQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
Well I'm really sorry, but 30Mhz more gets my overclock really unstable. So yea. I guess I do need that much voltage! :cool: :(Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
Ah, I know why it is, a fellow overclocker said it was because I'm using 4 Dimms in my mobo. More voltage due to on die memorycontroller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
Yes, that may be the possible reason!
Since I'm not familiar with X2 overclocking, somebody mentioned dropping the Vcore, since it sometimes even with a lot of Vcore nothing changes. And behold lol, I'm priming now at 1.5v same speed. :p: :)
Ok, I see. I'm only running 2 PC4000 1gig sticks, having 2GB in all, see below, but not running at 540mhz now, that made it all go bananas:banana: , but anyways all in all I learned something new today too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
I tried volting mine up to 1.5 now and tuning it up to 2.85 ghz, but it all went blue on me, one of those fancy bluescreens, so I didn't bother, had to turn it down to 2.7 again :mad:
Yesterday I tried 3000Mhz with 1.5V. There was an error after 5 minutes. I'll check more today.
Mine went blue on me after like ten minutes of use.... I ran two instances of prime95, one on each core, core 0 is much stronger than core 1, så I think that core 1 is capable of a much higher overclock than 2.7ghz, but core 0 keeps slowing the :banana::banana::banana::banana: down, I've tried water, and it's no better than my 828grams coppercooler :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
I have only two dimms of pc4000 on my mobo, and any voltage above 1.4/1.45 makes absolutely no sense here, it's the chip or something else that is stopping the clock. Like I said... core 0 is stronger than core 1 clockwise... or it doesen't get that hot as the other, but that's impossible to measure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim
Mine could easily have been boxed as a 4600+ or a 5200+ as it now runs on 5300+ speed ;)
Hi all,
Im trying to help out a friend of mine.
He has the following setup:
Asus A8N-VM
AMD Athlon 4200+ X2
4 x 512MB PC3200 Kingston ValueRAM
Asus Geforce 8800GTS
Super Flower 500 Watts PSU
Im trying to OC his proc because as you can see its obviously holding back the 8800GTS.
Thing is..when i look into his BIOS, i can not change anything except for the FSB speed.
I want to avoid doing this because he has stock memory modules and wanted to try changing the multiplier instead.
But i can not find it anywhere...
Does anyone here have any idea on how to do this and is there a custom BIOS for this motherboard somewhere maybe?
TIA.
Even if you did find the multiplier it wouldn't do you any good with overclocking the CPU, since it is only the FX-CPU's that have all multipliers unlocked. In all the others the multiplier is unlocked downwards from the stock. So lowering the ram-divider, raising voltages on cpu just a notch and raising FSB is you best option here :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_maniaC
Give it 1.52-1.525 and it will work just fine (under water off course)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
Unfortunately not :( I don't know why. Once it ran 16 Minutes with 1.500V, then only 2 minutes with 1.525V. Oo ??
One of the cores are probably better than the other, I use everest ultimate edition to check ou how hot each core is, but then again I already know from prime95 which core that is ruining the ultimate extreme oc on my computer, but you don't. The heat from the poorer core is making the good one go yohoo :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
What Bios you are using ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
Well sure thats the other alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
Thing is i only get to see a Set FSB option if i put the Jumperfree Configuration on manual. No RAM speed, no divider, no nothing. :(
Any ideas? :toast:
May be that some other bios is fixing the problem? Or that the MB stinks oc'ing? :D No, from gun to revolver, try going to asus online and check if there is another, maybe newer bios... but once in a while the oldest bios is the best, but I believe most mb's are shipped with the rev0 or rev1 ... may be wrong there though..Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_maniaC
Well i know he bought it at work (switching from his Asrock to Asus with PCI-e wanting to buy the 8800GTS).Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
Sounds like it could def be an old BIOS seeing as i even think we got it swapped for another RMA board a while back.
I will try to update the BIOS, but in case there is no success, any idea where i might find a modded BIOS for this? (Like some A8N-E BIOS customised to work on the A8N-VM or something?).
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ghlight=A8N-VM
Don't seem like there's an option here though.... It may be like my ASUS A8R-MVP, that didn't support any northbridge voltage increasment, because of some rotten power circuits on the board. It may be that your friend either is forced to change mb or to voltmod it, I don't know, but that was one of the threads (link above) popping up when I searched this forum.
Dude, i got CoreTemp for that and not Everest.Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
One core is getting 10-11° hotter than the other, but the colder one strikes ... even with 1.55V. :stick:
BIOS is the latest one from dfi.com.tw and the NB can do easily 300Mhz, even 350Mhz. So that shouldn't be the bottleneck.
whats up with these ASUS m2n mobos and the massive difference in the vcore selected in bios VS the vcore displayed in cpu-z? also, i see that its better to NOT USE teh 100mV offset unless you need to go over 1.6v, correct?
and lastly, what temp readings should i trust? those reported by the ITE chip on the mobo or the ones reported by the amd core sensors?
thanks all. trying to OC my first AM2, and the intial differences are.... unnerving
None of them are true.
"relatively" true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
relatively true is coretemp, delta T is correct afaik, but the values not. And ITE is as it is bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: ...
the core sensors are not really calibrated.
yea, not only that but i got the trusty multimeter out, and the reports of cpuz, speedfan, etc showin vcore a lil less than .05v under seem to be right with ASUS and BIOS rockin a good .1v -.15v OVER! ewwww
so then im like, what is the real damn temps? i see my cores load to about 35C each....
It is known that CPU-Z does not show true values. The value in BIOS is quite correct, but if you use your multimeter at for example 1,40V, the you'll have around 1,408V on your multi.
Yesterday I had a run of SuperPi 32MB with 2950Mhz an 1.500V. No errors! :) prime was also stable for over 2 and a half hours
You are getting close :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
AM2 X2 3800+ Windsor 89W
ADA3800IAA5CU LDBBF
280x10 = 2800MHz @ 1.53125V (BIOS), water cooled, idle 28C load 50C
24hrs Orthos stable; DST change happened during run so start time messed up :(
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1900/2800eu0.th.jpg
finally did it folks :) The IHS is off and I have to use 1.475V in BIOS. At 1.45V it also ran about 20 Minutes stable, but then i opened MSN Messenger and wrote with somebody an my PC freezed and it seemed like my VGA card was broken, all weird colors and that stuff. But that's only if I use MSN :D weird ....
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4...1456km4.th.jpg
First time overclocking!! AMD 64 x2 3800+
On Water @ 39c
No Screenies of temps, and PI. Waiting for my DI/LN2 container, will update with new #'s when it gets here.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=181746
Comparing to yours; me to the left, you to the right.Quote:
Originally Posted by CandymanCan
It seems that even yours has lower tcasemax and tdp yours clock better... how come? I'm dazzled... revisions the same though... only main difference I can relate it to is vid, mine says 1.35, yours 1.4
Does lower multiplier makes the cpu stronger?
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/151...ble2850yw1.jpg
also my max OC... of 2.9 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=179841
I wish I could get this higher
BTW its all under water
Can you show a picture of tcasemax please? I wonder if I can compare mine to yours, it's really rotten making a cpu that only can withstand 61C on cores... rotten I say! My 3800+ x2 did 69C and still lived... it would do 2.7 GHz rock-sock-solid 1.475V day, night - 24/7 for two years! Then I broke a pin, then I removed IHS and broke it totally for what... practicing on an IHS removal, did that first before doing it on my FX... but again, for what... not a mhz more! It can do 3 GHz, but about anything above 2.8 GHz 1.375V makes to much heat - even in roomtemp... only "window-wide-open-oc" possible... really .... rotten! Goddamn AMD on this one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cupcake
tcase etc info doesnt matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
I can make my VID say .8v if i want. He probably changed the VID voltage in the BIOS (startup VID and CPU VIC, different things)
TDP watt rating doesn't matter also.
Startup VID, you mean the real VID or the C&Q VID? Do anyone actually don't disable C&Q when OC'ing? I always disable that, OC or no OC, crappy :banana::banana::banana::banana: that didn't work on any desktop I've ever had... only works on my laptop.
Anyway, it wasn't any good for OC, so I've sold it... it works just fine stock, attached the IHS back on without an issue as well. Will recieve an Opteron 170 tomorrow instead.
Strange... every time I go for something expencive it is something wrong with it, so maybe going with the cheaper option this time around is going to be better around... actually managed to afford my phonebill aswell with selling it and bying the new chip ;)
All these high Voltages ... argh ..
@ freakBYnature
sry but your FX-60 sucks ;) I think that the CPU would do good, I saw a 3800+ 0608BPWM, that could do 3000Mhz with 1.325V.
Try to lower your memory's frequency. That often helps. maybe you have a crappy IMC.
Tried everything... nothing would work... and I do mean EVERYTHING! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Burg
4000+ * 2,91 Ghz @ 1,375V * 0705TPCW * Lukü @ ?? °C* mit HS * 2 h Dual Prime * [KM] SeLecT *
http://www.abload.de/img/2910mhz2std8u5.jpg
Jaws
Jaws
Upset? More like amazed at how much you beat around bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
Asking question is good, asking question already answered and proven 100 times is idiotic.
I have best CPU from AMD in the world (CNQ Disabled):rolleyes:
Proven where? In this thread? Come off your pedestal already :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by GMX
My VID shows as 1.35 in coretemp no matter WHAT i set in bios, so it's kind of weird it's so proven :banana: :D
How would I look into avoiding SATA HD issues when overclocking on a 590 reference board?
This Brisbane 1.9ghz is a sweet one, it has no problem with orthos at 2.9ghz on stock voltage, but even with a lower HTT multi (3x) it still might currupt something on restart.
The confusing thing is that it doesn't seem to mind the DDR2 400 multiplier, but if I got to the 533 that's when I get a lot more instability, I don't see why my RAM would affect the SATA drive though.
The best way to avoid this is to find your best clock... the ultimate one, the one you want to run 24/7 on.... the install windows when using that clock... afterwards? DON'T TOUCH BIOS.... Don't even think about hitting delete on boot :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by falqon
That's the best way to avoid corrupting your windows install :D
And that goes for any board... hypertransport is a crummy corrupter if played with to much!
Here:Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
http://overclockingpin.com/bios%20vs...g%20resize.jpg
If you don't understand from this screenie, I have no clue how to help you.
look at the THREE VID controls/options in there.
VID Startup Value: EXACTLY what A64info reports as your VID, I changed mine to 1.1v(even with cnq disabled) and thats what it reports. If you leave it on Auto you will get either 1.4v or 1.35v -depends on chip.
VID Control and VID Special control I'm sure you already know.
Yeah, understand allright, but startup VID aint an option in my bios UNLESS I set C&Q active... since this actually is a C&Q option.... VID control I have and VID Special Control I have, understand them all perfectly... What I don't understand is why you want to let it start at 1.1V with C&Q disabled and an OC'ed cpu, that seems just loco... why? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by GMX
Me doing that was to prove that VID in A64Info doesn't matter unless the person has it on auto, and yet it still doesn't matter. I have a CABYE 0543 Opteron 148, 1.4v VID (auto) and it did 3ghz stable with 1.45v. Many 1.35v VID (auto) Opterons can't do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by freakBYnature
So basically saying that that value really cannot be used to determine a better/worse chip. It's not concrete evidence.
what can i expect from this one?
http://shrani.si/thumbs/img0035yuet.jpg
You tell me :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
lol system aint booting :(
X2 3600+ AM2 BRISBANE
ASUS M2N SLI DLX
2X1GB CRUCIAL 667
LC 550W GP
7900GS
all fires up, no screen on LCD....ideas ?
CLEAR CMOS, move gfx to lower PCIEX16X ?
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Please see first post!!!!!!!Quote:
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Rules:
1-Please post at least a ss of 2x Super Pi 32m SS to show some type of stability.
2-Please post all your settings including your stepping.
3-Please save the Q & A's for other threads like This One just post oc's here
sorry ;)
I changed my Brisbane to Windsor.
I think I had the worst Brisbane EVER. It clocked max. 2.4GHz @ 1.4V, and didn't go much further with more VCore.
I decided to change it to brand new Windsor, and haven't regretted for a single second. Currently running @ 2.5GHz @ 1.23V. Haven't tested more. But I think this one will go around 2.8-3GHz.
Even this one has 256KB of L2, I think that 500MHz on CPU Frequency will be faster, + I got 5 euros from changing these chips. :)
calmatory that weird really
mine with stock cooler so far :toast:
http://shrani.si/thumbs/300x95z4qe.jpg
OCCT 30 min stable...doing S&M now....VCORE 1.2875V in BIOS :)
stay away from the 0.5 multi, it decreases the ram perfromance very much
use either 9x or 10x but not 9.5
EDIT:
ops this is AM2 not 939
forget about what i said above :)
bad safrout ;)
LOL
sorry but i posted in this thread LONG time ago before AM2 was out, so i never thought that this thread goes from 939 to AM2
my first dual core till I hand this PC over to family.
X2 3800 Toledo-512k
LCB1E 0619 RPMW
2.920ghz 1.488v is stable (DMM)
Doesn't really scale well, and temps are misleading (core 0 reports 16C idle, whereas ambients are atleast 20+ and core1 is 30C idle) Needs better cooling anyway, I'm on ancient aftermarket cooling.
I think this will be a really good chip if I had better cooling and new DFI board (this one degraded a bit)
any idea why is cpu-z reporting wrong vcore?
at 315x9.5
vcore up to 1.4v
keeps rebooting when running S&M
too little juice?
AMD X2 4800 LCB9E 2955.77MHz Not bad for stock cooling. Ran prime for 2 hrs, will run prime again for longer tomorrow....
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=192349
Hmm, I was able to do some suicide runs @ 2.96GHz. Stable @ 2.85GHz, if I keep the window open.
Need to do some 2.8GHz Priming today.
3600+ X2 Windsor @ ~1.55V
Got a little more outa it, can go further with better cooling i think. remember, this is STOCK HSF.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=194571
What voltage? Looks like a really nice chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipeR²
GMX, I have the same stepping 3800+ x2 as you (LCBIE 0619RPMW). I am interested in knowing your batch no as well as your TCaseMax & TDP readings for comparison.
Please post back here or send me a PM :toast:
I got X2 3800+ LCBIE 0621 VPMW, currently overclock to 2.5GHz @ stock vcore.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrRevhead
but I faced a problem, that's even at idle, temperature difference between both core at least 8'c or more.
by the way, I'm using noctua U12 heatsink with 120mm fan
I dont remember the batch number, it was something around 120~Quote:
Originally Posted by MrRevhead
Tcasemax is 65C
TDP is 71.9W
Cheers :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by GMX
The reason I ask, is because from all the LCBIE 0618-0627 x2's I have seen, I had one of the lowest TCaseMax's & TDP's, so I concluded that it was a bit of a dud chip comparitive to the rest of the LCBIE batches. The LCBIE 0618EPMW's were doing 3.0-3.1Ghz @ ~1.44v, which was what I was ideally hoping for.
My TCaseMax is 63 & TDP is slightly lower than yours at 65 from memory. Based on your results so far, the scaling with voltage is pretty similar between the two chips. I have got 2.95Ghz @ 1.47v, haven't tried higher, but will within the next few weeks when I take the chip out of the cupboard :)
Will keep you posted.
stock voltageQuote:
Originally Posted by GMX
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/540/cpuzhn8.jpg
3Ghz @ 1.35 wow that si nice
is it stable ??